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Can someone tell me if I use Google does it take away from my mins bc I still have to use my line to call Google and rate plan was changed so I do need to make some free calls
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2 part answer.
Call forwarding is free with I'm pretty sure all EVO plans on sprint, therefore using the google voice app for voicemail uses data and is free. ( you have to dial *28-your google voice number to set it up).
Using google voice to place calls (I call canada for free daily on it), definitely uses minutes unless... You get Sprint to give you " 3 free numbers / landlines" to call and them you don't accrue minutes for those (home, work etc...). You then just make one of your free numbers your google voice number and then all calls placed through google voice will be free too (no minute accrual).
The only problem is that last time I called customer retention, they said they were no longer offering that option (vs. Verizon, att and others that I believe still do -not confirmed)
Either way, GV is a great low cost way to call international from your cell
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Sprint does offer an option called "Sprint To Home" which lets you pick 1 number to call unlimited. It costs $5 extra a month. Also, when you sign up (you have to call customer service) they tell you that you cannot use it with any service that will allow you to re-route your calls (i.e. Google Voice). Of course, I don't think they actually check on the number you provide them, but I'm sure if all your calls came to/from this number and you were using 1000 minutes a month, a red flag is going to go off somewhere.
Basically, stop trying to cheat the system. If you need a ton of minutes, get the Unlimited plan.
Lol Google number is always different when u place a call so I guess my answer is no can't be done
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mobgod said:
Lol Google number is always different when u place a call so I guess my answer is no can't be done
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google voice is using data. as long as you have unlimited data you can do away with using minutes too much if that is your issue. so yes it will say you minutes because its using your mobile data and google voice gives you free calls anywhere in the us and only 10cents a min internation
hope that helps?
goodelyfe said:
google voice is using data. as long as you have unlimited data you can do away with using minutes too much if that is your issue. so yes it will say you minutes because its using your mobile data and google voice gives you free calls anywhere in the us and only 10cents a min internation
hope that helps?
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OK - 2 different issues
GV for the voicemail is using data and therefore unlimited.
Phone/Voice calls do not use data, they use minutes. The GV dialer dials an access number (which changes every few months) to place calls and therefore it DOES use minutes. The changing access number makes it generally impractical to change one of your "pick 5 / Favorite number" every few months.
But it can be done.
use the following format to add a telephone number in each contact that you want to use for GV (ie international)
you GV number,,your pin,,2,,the number you want to dial#
the "," is for a 2 second pause (depending which ROM you are using, it sometimes needs to be a "p")
the "#" tells GV that you are done with the number and place the call.
albeit labor intensive to setup, but it works I do it every day.
Also last point,
GV is NOT 10 cents/ min all international
as mentioned Canada is free (which is why I use this method even without the saving minutes issue)
the rates are VOIP like and can be found by logging into your google voice account and looking up "Rates"
Isn't Google Voice just VOIP?
Yes.
For obvious reasons integrates well with android and there is no access fee.
Just add money through your google checkout acct and you are golden!
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Kufer said:
Yes.
For obvious reasons integrates well with android and there is no access fee.
Just add money through your google checkout acct and you are golden!
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You don't even need to add money unless you're making international calls.
touche!!!! lol my b
thanks for the elaboration...got lazy
I'm lost lol so there is noway to do this bc it does use mins correct like people tell me to use fring but that will also say call with Google voice or without
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Yes I believe so since GV is a landline number.
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So I have been looking around here, searching (unsuccessfully) on how to setup Google Voice (GV) to use only data on 3g and wifi. I see no settings in GV or ICS for this. How do I set this up using GV to dial only data and no voice?
Can I simply go to:
Phone (stock app) >Settings > Use Internet Calling > For all calls when data is available
And then:
Google Voice (downloaded App) > Settings > Making Calls > Use Google Voice to Make all calls
Will these settings work successfully or do I need to purchase an app like Groove IP to get the result I am looking for?
I also signed up for an SIP account at sip2sip and tried to configure a SIP account in the phone, but the account wont configure properly on the phone.
Anyways I am all over the place here, some guidance from someone with more knowledge than myself would be great
Thanks!
There's a misconception that Google Voice is a VOIP service. It is not, it is simply a call forwarding service. When someone dials your GV# it simply forwards to one or more other numbers. Downloading the GV app doesn't enable or allow native VOIP calls on the phone.
The only way to get a VOIP solution going with Google Voice is to have it forward calls to Google Talk (what you'd usually do to make and receive calls in GMail), and use an app like GrooVe IP or Talkatone to intercept those and relay them to your phone.
These basic VOIP service layers for GV aren't as good as they sound. They can work quite well when configured properly on WiFi, but don't expect to make quality calls walking down the street on 3G. The codecs they use just require too much consistent bandwidth and don't work well on mobile networks.
There are other more complex SIP systems that you can pay for and have your GV# forward to, but for that I recommend you head to general and read the VOIP thread.
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Appreciate it, will take a gander over to the voip.
I get fairly consistent 8down and 2up using tmo here so Id like to at least try!
Worst comes to worst I can put my old work sim in for service
Hi Quarkboy!
I am using T-mobile $30 plan, grooveip, google voice to do exactly what you describe. I used it this past week in both Boston and Chicago. I have a new to me used not yet unrooted HTC sensation, DL speeds I get 2mbs to 4 mbs. Calls are "clear", I don't and listeners don't hear static, but, everything sounds a little "thin" and "tinny". I plan to try talkatone next.
IMO, the sound quality is not poor enough to abandon grooveip for most calls, but, for an important call I'd probably use plan minutes.
GL!
Yes. If you want it to make all calls, just set it to that. I have used it and confirmed on my bill that it works
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Ive got nothing but good things to say about talkatone.
Easy setup...good options...great app!
Try itZ!
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Yup. Talkatone is the way to go.
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You don't have to set up third party programs anymore. You can just set it up though gvoice itself. I'll send screen shots when I get home. I've made two outgoing calls at the same time with it before. The other parties caller I'd shows my gv number. And. It didn't ever charge my minutes. Long story as to why I did it, but I do use gv all the time for visual voice mail. And texting.
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To use the native internet calling, you need to download sipdroid from the market temporarily. Through sipdroid, you can create a free account with pbxes.org with a google voice trunk (not available for free if you directly sign up at pbxes.org).
I'm about to investigate further (just got the $30 100min/5gb plan myself today), but if pbxes.org supports call forwarding if there's no active sip session (or less good, forward after x rings/seconds), you should be able to sign up for another GV/pbxes pair and use that to ring your real phone number. That way, you can have people call one number and always be reachable, and have voip preference to not eat your minutes.
It's a shame you can't do prioritized ringing natively with GV.
Yea. I downloaded Talkatone and I'm glad I did. I'm definitely going to buy the addless license after a week of use. Just have to make sure that I havent missed any problems before purchasing.
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You don't have to set up third party programs anymore. You can just set it up though gvoice itself. I'll send screen shots when I get home. I've made two outgoing calls at the same time with it before. The other parties caller I'd shows my gv number. And. It didn't ever charge my minutes. Long story as to why I did it, but I do use gv all the time for visual voice mail. And texting.
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Also, I wondered this...
I made an accidental call using Google Voice while using my cell network (not wireless internet) and it rang! So not sure if you get charged using minutes or if its only taken from your data. I wonder if you can receive calls as well.
pinoyplaya4life said:
Yea. I downloaded Talkatone and I'm glad I did. I'm definitely going to buy the addless license after a week of use. Just have to make sure that I havent missed any problems before purchasing.
Also, I wondered this...
I made an accidental call using Google Voice while using my cell network (not wireless internet) and it rang! So not sure if you get charged using minutes or if its only taken from your data. I wonder if you can receive calls as well.
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Yes you do get charged minutes with just gv. Use talkatone to call without minutes. Play around in the settings to get it just right. You know it's right when you can make and receive calls on airplane mode our without the Sim in the phone. Additionally, most importantly make sure to log into the desktop version of gv and forward all calls to google talk.
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To use the native internet calling, you need to download sipdroid from the market temporarily. Through sipdroid, you can create a free account with pbxes.org with a google voice trunk (not available for free if you directly sign up at pbxes.org).
I'm about to investigate further (just got the $30 100min/5gb plan myself today), but if pbxes.org supports call forwarding if there's no active sip session (or less good, forward after x rings/seconds), you should be able to sign up for another GV/pbxes pair and use that to ring your real phone number. That way, you can have people call one number and always be reachable, and have voip preference to not eat your minutes.
It's a shame you can't do prioritized ringing natively with GV.
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Interesting. I just signed up and I'm trying to get it set up with the built in Internet Calling features in Android.
If I set Google Voice and Internet Calling to Ask Each Time I get this:
Call with Google Voice > Dials using Cell
Call with Cell > Asks me to chose internet or cell
So that doesn't seem to be what is expected. Although I suppose I could reduce minutes by receiving calls over gv.
Finally, does anyone know if pbxes.org keeps you logged into gtalk on their servers 24/7?
Are there any good SMS/texting apps for kindle fire/android that DON'T require the use of a cell number? I've only found one so far called Text+ in the kindle store. It works by assigning your account with a random phone number. Works pretty good for sending/receiving plain text from cell phones. But it doesn't allow you to choose what area code your number comes from, and it doesn't handle pics/video very well at all.
My KF is rooted now and about to have the google apps installed, so I was just wondering if there was a good app out there that doesn't require using your cellphone number.
Google Voice can do this for you. You will probably need to give Google Voice a phone or cell number to begin with, but you can remove that number after you are done setting it up. All of your texts will be coming from a phone number, but it will be the new Google Voice number that you sign up for. I always text from my computer or tablet using Google Voice.
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Google Voice can do this for you.
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Nice thx, I'll check it out!
Text+ should let you change your area code just fine. Just use your one free number change.
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Are there any good SMS/texting apps for kindle fire/android that DON'T require the use of a cell number? I've only found one so far called Text+ in the kindle store. It works by assigning your account with a random phone number. Works pretty good for sending/receiving plain text from cell phones. But it doesn't allow you to choose what area code your number comes from, and it doesn't handle pics/video very well at all.
My KF is rooted now and about to have the google apps installed, so I was just wondering if there was a good app out there that doesn't require using your cellphone number.
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I've been using Evernote. It let's you read your notes from any device and uses Google voice, but I haven't tried that yet. More than I need but seems to work ok so far.
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Google Voice can do this for you. You will probably need to give Google Voice a phone or cell number to begin with, but you can remove that number after you are done setting it up. All of your texts will be coming from a phone number, but it will be the new Google Voice number that you sign up for. I always text from my computer or tablet using Google Voice.
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GOOGLE voice indirectly charges your phone number per text if you have a limited text plan such as 200 texts per month on your cell plan. Each google text counts as one because it runs it through your data plan on your cell phone, provided that's the number you used.
iphonedownload said:
GOOGLE voice indirectly charges your phone number per text if you have a limited text plan such as 200 texts per month on your cell plan. Each google text counts as one because it runs it through your data plan on your cell phone, provided that's the number you used.
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So what does it do if you don't use a cell number to set it up with? Just not allow the text?
A few months ago I found several incomplete resources on the web to set up Google Voice as your voice mail service instead of using your carrier. In the case of Verizon, I was even more disgusted to pay $2.99 per line per month for a service that should be included with every smartphone. This guide is intended to be a more complete solution to using Google Voice as your voice mail service on Verizon.
Why Google Voice?
- Integrated FREE visual voice mail on your Galaxy Nexus (don’t pay Big Red more than you have to). Access from your call log or the Google Voice app.
- Transcripts of the message e-mailed to you (the translation is not very accurate, but you can get the main point of the message in most cases before you listen to it).
- Access your voicemail on your phone, tablet, or web browser.
Setup:
1. If you haven’t already, request a Google Voice number from http://bit.ly/obMhcy (Don't port your number, just get a new one from Google - porting your number from Verizon to Google Voice will cancel your Verizon service).
2. Once you have your Google Voice number, install the Google Voice app on your phone http://bit.ly/QDySzs
3. Once all signed in to the Google Voice app, you are ready to set up FREE visual voicemail on your Galaxy Nexus.
4. Go to your Phone app settings (not Google Voice, but the actual Phone app that makes your phone a phone). Under “Other Call Settings” is a “voicemail” option, open that. Under “Service” select Google Voice. You will get a pop up warning that your carrier cannot be autoconfigured, but just acknowledge the warning and continue on. To make this function on Verizon, you need to setup a “Number Busy/No Answer Call”, also known as conditional call forwarding by following this simple step:
Dial *71 [Your GV #] then hit Send — (*71-###-###-#### then Send)
You’ll hear a few beeps and then you’ll automatically be disconnected. This is a free Verizon calling feature that reroutes an unanswered call to the 10-digit number provided after the *71, which is your Google Voice number in this case. Make a test call to your cell phone number from another phone to make sure all is working – you can set up your personal message later.
Now, anybody that calls your cell phone (GV or regular cell number) will be redirected to your Google Voice voicemail. This way you can keep your Verizon phone number and still manage voicemail online (replay/save messages to your computer) and get transcriptions.
There are options on the Google Voice web interface to record a personal message, which can be different depending on who is calling. For example, a message for friends, one for work, etc. The Google Voice settings page is also where you set up your account to receive e-mail notifications of voicemails with transcripts, etc.
Don't forget to cancel your Verizon VVM subscription once this is complete and working, and uninstall yet another Verizon app from your Nexus device. :good:
Thanks OP! As someone who has used Google Voice for a few years I fully support this thread.
I ran this since Google Voice was in beta on VZW. No other way to have it.
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Thanks, works great!! I Love how I can play VM right from the phone app!! And read them in the voice app. So sick. Thanks a lot
And if your plan supports it, add your GV # to your Friends & Family list to make voicemail airtime free (won't use minutes)
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And if your plan supports it, add your GV # to your Friends & Family list to make voicemail airtime free (won't use minutes)
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The VMs are downloaded and stored in the app via data, you wont ever have to call VM again.
I believe you are thinking of the old trick, change the GV settings to show your GV# instead of the callers #.
Thanks for posting this. I'm going to give it a go.
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The VMs are downloaded and stored in the app via data, you wont ever have to call VM again.
I believe you are thinking of the old trick, change the GV settings to show your GV# instead of the callers #.
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Actually, I'm thinking that rather than burn data-bytes, I just reprogram the phone to call my GV# when I press and hold 1. By listing it in F&F, it's a free call, doesn't use data and works exactly like my carrier's VM.
Google voice has been working great for me for a couple months and is a huge step up from regular voicemail.... Highly recommended! Thanks for the guide.
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Actually, I'm thinking that rather than burn data-bytes, I just reprogram the phone to call my GV# when I press and hold 1. By listing it in F&F, it's a free call, doesn't use data and works exactly like my carrier's VM.
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Yeah but doesn't that defeat the purpose? If you're going to do that why not use the carriers VM? And I cant imagine that downloading a voice mail message uses much data. Oh well, to each his own.
So, is there anything I need to watch out for when flashing other ROMs
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geomonroe said:
So, is there anything I need to watch out for when flashing other ROMs
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Set up phone as per instructions, don't have to do the *71 part. I've been doing this for a couple years now, and I tend to flash a different rom a few times a week, no problems.
Really want to screw the man? Just get a free sip line hooked to your gv number. All you need is a data plan. Saves big $$$$$
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Set up phone as per instructions, don't have to do the *71 part. I've been doing this for a couple years now, and I tend to flash a different rom a few times a week, no problems.
Really want to screw the man? Just get a free sip line hooked to your gv number. All you need is a data plan. Saves big $$$$$
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I did the *71 thing. Now I can't send messages
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geomonroe said:
I did the *71 thing. Now I can't send messages
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[SOLVED] disabled through app now I can send through either. The two different numbers are messing with my peeps, I have had the same number for years. Plus when you look below the surface there can be charges
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geomonroe said:
[SOLVED] disabled through app now I can send through either. The two different numbers are messing with my peeps, I have had the same number for years. Plus when you look below the surface there can be charges
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Have gv ring all numbers when a call comes in. No matter which is dialed, no matter which is in use, you'll get the call. Been working that way for me for a couple years. Texting the vz number will incur a charge, but that's about it. Only extra charges I see are from those texts. No cost if texts go to gv number.
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Have gv ring all numbers when a call comes in. No matter which is dialed, no matter which is in use, you'll get the call. Been working that way for me for a couple years. Texting the vz number will incur a charge, but that's about it. Only extra charges I see are from those texts. No cost if texts go to gv number.
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Texting through Google voice is a nightmare. This thread's purpose was to show folks how stop paying Verizon for the ability to have visual voice mail on your smartphone.
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Thanks for this! Had no idea I could even change the voicemail to something else. I got so tired of the voicemail icon constantly making my notification light blink since I never check it. Hell, I had no idea verizon even offered a visual voicemail service. +1Google
Youmail.. The best free visual voicemail ..use on all my phones and tabs.. And best of all works perfect and simple to setup
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Hey guys,
I tried searching for anything relating to this and I haven't found anything on this forum or Google thats helpful.
Issue: NO SERVICE!!! I work in a government building that has 0 reception inside (I also work in the basement). I also get almost no reception in my house, but i have an airave so that's resolved for the most part.
I would like to set up VOIP somehow without having to create a new number to give to people. I'm hoping to find someone who has done this already with success.
My thought is to install and set up google voice using my sprint number, and then integrate google voice into talkatone. That way I can call/text over wifi for free because it is still using my sprint number, just over a data connection instead of cell. I'm on a good family plan with a business discount, so this isn't me trying to get out of paying for cell minutes, my bill for 4 people is 200 bucks (we all have premium data). I just want to be able to receive my messages and calls while I'm at work on just a wifi signal. Unfortunately about a month ago my fiancees father unexpectedly passed and I didn't find out until I left work hours later because I never received a message.
If this is a taboo conversation I apologize (if its possible, the resources are already out there) or if nobody knows I understand. I was just hoping for some insight because I've heard complaints with people trying to integrate their sprint number to google voice.
So I took some time and did some individual research of each app and the google voice integration.
Google Voice itself does not all VOIP, which is where talkatone comes in. Most 3rd party VOIP apps require the person you are calling/texting to also have that app, or you need to create a new number through that app and give it out to everybody you want to communicate with over a data connection.
Talkatone works with Google Voice, which is why it's free, and the benefit of being on Sprint is that you can make your Google Voice number your Sprint Mobile number, therefore being able to make free calls and texts over wifi/3g/4g without spending any money. If you decide to go international you would only have to add a credit to google voice for international calls (which is significantly cheaper then the international rate from sprint).
I believe this is a very unknown loophole in sprints eyes that is completely legal and does not break the terms of service. They are the ones who have a contract with Google Voice to allow you to use your own number, then talkatone works on top of google voice to provide VOIP.
In essence I answered my own question, but I hope to have provided some insight to other people that have service issues with sprint.
I welcome anybody who uses this exact set up or just google voice to chime in with any issues they have experienced, or success stories.
I use GrooveIP to do this on my wifi only evo shift
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I use GrooveIP to do this on my wifi only evo shift
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What ive read is that because it works through google voice and google voice isn't considered a "mobile number" then any person you call that has a mobile-to-mobile feature will not take advantage of it, it will actually go towards their minutes. it doesnt hurt you because you arent using any minutes, but it hurts them. especially on a family plan.
Well obviously. It basically lets you use your disconnected device as phone whenever you have wifi.
For real "free" services, each person needs to be in on the same thing.