I have lost confidence in nandroid, and need help. I rooted using unrEVOked3. I did a nandroid backup before starting on the quest to install Froyo. I went back to stock and rooted with simple root. Installed clockworkmod recovery. I ran into some problems so restored my nandroid backup. The restore worked, but with problems. None of my icons or widgets were restored. My wallpaper went from black to multicolored (default I think). I read that there were some problems with Clockworkmod, so I installed amonRA recovery. I have taken a nandroid backup, but leery of it working. Am I doing something wrong or was it a problem with unrEVOked? I would like to get an answer to this before Taking my next leap and not having a good way back.
Anyone done a restore of a nandroid backup taken under unrEVOked3 with clockworkmod?
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todivefor said:
Anyone done a restore of a nandroid backup taken under unrEVOked3 with clockworkmod?
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We prefer not to use unrevoked as it is not a full root.
SteelH said:
We prefer not to use unrevoked as it is not a full root.
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I am not anymore, but looking for answers as to why my nandroid backup did not restore correctly.
todivefor said:
I am not anymore, but looking for answers as to why my nandroid backup did not restore correctly.
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Maybe because Unrevoked is not full root? Unrevoked causes 50% of the problems that rooted users have with root.
its a very good possibility the problem lies in unrevoked. I nandroid at least once a day (because i flash normally once a day. and yes thats sad). Never had that issue on a full rooted back up. (we are talking 100s of nandroid back ups and restores since i got my evo)
I did nandroid backup of 2.1, flashed burnt droid, and nandroid backup. Restored 2.1 worked great and then restored burnt droid. No problems. Must have been problems caused by unrEVOked3. Thanks everyone.
todivefor said:
I did nandroid backup of 2.1, flashed burnt droid, and nandroid backup. Restored 2.1 worked great and then restored burnt droid. No problems. Must have been problems caused by unrEVOked3. Thanks everyone.
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not to say that unrevoked was the problem but at least on mine when i did it you also have the option to do clockwork or RA. clockwork could have been the problem not wiping completely
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I'm new to Rooting and I was wondering if I flashed lets say to a new rom weather it is 2.2 or 2.1 and I don't like it or something dosen't work. Can I just flash the most current nandroid backup to return or do I have to flash the old rom that I was using then the nandroid backup on top of that ??
Using Rooted Evo with OMJ update 147.651.1
You sure can as long as the new ROM you flash is also a rooted ROM.
So basically I can jump from rom to rom to see what I like and just flash my backup to return to the original.... Cool.thanks
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Just returned to a nand backup last night. First time ever and worked fine...(I did a titanium backup first as had messages and app changes.)
How perfect, a simple search answered my exactl question.
I can run three roms and as long asI refresh my nandroids before flipping to another to restore I will miss very little. Only issue I can think of is let's say I run stock rooted for a week, and flip to a nandroid of CM6 for a week, then back to stock rooted...I would not have text messages from that time. I can fix that with TiBackup.
Am I missing anything? And, thanks to the people making me do all this stuff to my phone
uniquenameevo said:
How perfect, a simple search answered my exactl question.
I can run three roms and as long asI refresh my nandroids before flipping to another to restore I will miss very little. Only issue I can think of is let's say I run stock rooted for a week, and flip to a nandroid of CM6 for a week, then back to stock rooted...I would not have text messages from that time. I can fix that with TiBackup.
Am I missing anything? And, thanks to the people making me do all this stuff to my phone
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Nope you havent missed anything Thats what i do all the time I believe for a certain period of time something else backs up texts as well because i often get all my texts back after a few minutes even those after the nandroid.
I've seen people having issues when using Titanium to restore apps and data from a 2.1 backup to 2.2 rom and vice versa. I think if you're just cycling between 2.2 roms, you should be ok though.
All I needed to know, thanks!
I'll only rotate 2.2 roms, no need to look back, but I appreciate that note also.
fachadick said:
I've seen people having issues when using Titanium to restore apps and data from a 2.1 backup to 2.2 rom and vice versa. I think if you're just cycling between 2.2 roms, you should be ok though.
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I use MyBackup to backup APKS+DATA when jumping from 2.1 to 2.2 and vice versa ROMS without issue. Love it, love it.
fachadick said:
I've seen people having issues when using Titanium to restore apps and data from a 2.1 backup to 2.2 rom and vice versa. I think if you're just cycling between 2.2 roms, you should be ok though.
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I have been cycling between the 2 a LOT here is what i have found works. when you select to restore all apps/data look through the list and uncheck all the 2.1 system apps (ie checkin_update 2.1, google_search_update 2.1) once you do this you can restore everything else no problem. I have used ths method at least 10 times with no issues back and forth. If you backed up on 2.2 do the same thing just uncheck the 2.2 version of this information.
Can someone clarify the difference between backing up via:
#1 Nandroid
#2 Titanium Backup
What exactly is or isn't backed up? I'm assuming Nandroid misses certain things otherwise no one would use TB?
berardi said:
Can someone clarify the difference between backing up via:
#1 Nandroid
#2 Titanium Backup
What exactly is or isn't backed up? I'm assuming Nandroid misses certain things otherwise no one would use TB?
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titanium backup is just for apps
nandroid restore is like restoring an image of your hard drive to your pc. it not only restores the apps, but the entire ROM (barring radio and wimax radio).
i.e., you have a ROM going. you use titanium backup to backup your apps. then, do a nandroid backup and flash an entire new ROM. then, you could use titanium backup to put the apps back on. then, you would use nandroid restore to go back to the old ROM, completely. with nandroid, you can flip-flop between ROMs with everything that you had when you backed it up.
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titanium backup is just for apps
nandroid restore is like restoring an image of your hard drive to your pc. it not only restores the apps, but the entire ROM (barring radio and wimax radio).
i.e., you have a ROM going. you use titanium backup to backup your apps. then, do a nandroid backup and flash an entire new ROM. then, you could use titanium backup to put the apps back on. then, you would use nandroid restore to go back to the old ROM, completely. with nandroid, you can flip-flop between ROMs with everything that you had when you backed it up.
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Thank you so much that makes it quite clear! I was struggling with that for a while
So Titanium Backup backs things up that are generally able to be carried from one ROM to the next without problem? I noticed that it also does backup system settings (notifications, etc) which is great. These things generally won't corrupt a new ROM file right?
So with 2.2 backing up apps and their data, the main draw of TB would be the backing up of system settings?
How long does it take to complete a nandroid restore? I tried to restore a backup yesterday and it was taking over three hours! I said f' it and pulled out the battery, luckily I was able to boot into recovery and wipe/flash fresh's 2.2 ROM from scratch.
XevoX said:
How long does it take to complete a nandroid restore? I tried to restore a backup yesterday and it was taking over three hours! I said f' it and pulled out the battery, luckily I was able to boot into recovery and wipe/flash fresh's 2.2 ROM from scratch.
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Should only take 5 minutes or so, about as long as it takes to flash a new ROM.
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Thank you so much that makes it quite clear! I was struggling with that for a while
So Titanium Backup backs things up that are generally able to be carried from one ROM to the next without problem? I noticed that it also does backup system settings (notifications, etc) which is great. These things generally won't corrupt a new ROM file right?
So with 2.2 backing up apps and their data, the main draw of TB would be the backing up of system settings?
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Yes, but it could potentially be problematic to just start restoring things in bulk from a TB backup between different ROMs, even if they are the same base build. Read flipz's rant on the subject.
If I run unrevoked3 on stock 1.47 (new Evo), can I restore a rooted 2.2 nandroid backup from my first Evo that was made with Amon_Ra? Would it work without engr. hboot? If so, could I be in trouble later by going to this rooted 2.2 backup w/o full root?
Had to bump this because I was curious to see how to restore a nandroid backup if I were to get a new phone for whatever reason.
Is it as simple as putting the sdcard from the old phone into the new rooted phone and performing a restore (assuming the same recovery method is used in both phones; in this case clockwork)?
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Had to bump this because I was curious to see how to restore a nandroid backup if I were to get a new phone for whatever reason.
Is it as simple as putting the sdcard from the old phone into the new rooted phone and performing a restore (assuming the same recovery method is used in both phones; in this case clockwork)?
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It should be. the hardest part should be rooting your phone.
I'd like to try out a ROM or two. i was just wondering what would be the best method for backing up my phone before wiping/loading a new rom? I've seen several mentions of nandroid backup, but i haven't found a link yet as to how to use that.
Will the backup restore the ROM i had when i created the backup? Or will i have to flash that rom back on the phone and then run the restore to just get my apps/data back?
thanks
You can make a nandroid backup in your custom recovery. And the backup will restore your phone to how it was the moment you made the backup.
How do I do a custom recovery?
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you are rooted and have nand unlocked, correct? if so, what method did you use?
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you are rooted and have nand unlocked, correct? if so, what method did you use?
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rooted yes, not sure about nand. I used unrevoked to root the phone. I don't think unrevoked does the nand unlock. I'm not even clear on what nand unlocking is. So i hadn't looked into doing that yet since i didn't want to unlock 'it' until i knew what 'it' was
In for this answer... I titanium backed up but need to know if that's enough.
Ok - played around with the power btn+vol down menu and found nandroid and i am running a backup now.
What exactly is this backing up?
If i were to reinstall the original ROM from sprint on here, could i use this to restore the phone as i have it now? I assume i'd have to root the phone first in order to use the restore the backup?
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merkk said:
Ok - played around with the power btn+vol down menu and found nandroid and i am running a backup now.
What exactly is this backing up?
If i were to reinstall the original ROM from sprint on here, could i use this to restore the phone as i have it now? I assume i'd have to root the phone first in order to use the restore the backup?
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1. It's backing up your nand.
There's an above post explaining this already.
2. Not necessary. Fully understand the answer to number 1.
3. Didn't you already root? You couldn't be doing this stuff otherwise.
So I rooted awhile back using the long step by step method and unrevoked forever since I have a newer phone that requires that root method. In the process I didn't do a nandroid backup, but did backup my 4g keys,etc. Is the purpose of a nandroid backup just to have something to revert to in case a new rom fails? Would I be fine just doing a nandroid backup of my rooted and flashed phone, or is there a reason I should flash back to a stock rom and do a nandroid that way? Thanks for the help, just want to make sure I don't leave myself stranded one day.
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So I rooted awhile back using the long step by step method and unrevoked forever since I have a newer phone that requires that root method. In the process I didn't do a nandroid backup, but did backup my 4g keys,etc. Is the purpose of a nandroid backup just to have something to revert to in case a new rom fails? Would I be fine just doing a nandroid backup of my rooted and flashed phone, or is there a reason I should flash back to a stock rom and do a nandroid that way? Thanks for the help, just want to make sure I don't leave myself stranded one day.
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Its just a backup to restore in case of a bad flash. If your current ROM is working, just make one now and tuck it away somewhere safe. You're good to go, no worries.
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Ditto. As Long as you have a backup of a working ROM, you should be good to go. Luckily I haven't ever run into a situation where I needed it. Usually if I find something slightly wrong, I just switch ROMs. I need less of an excuse than that, actually.
A backup is very, very, very important!!!
Just recently, for example, my text messages were acting funky and so I decided a reboot might alleviate the issue, perhaps. Upon rebooting, I got stuck in a boot loop. Thankfully, had myself a backup to just restore real quick and get on with my life.
It needn't be of a stock image, just one that has no issues so that you can always go back should something occur. Usually, that's why people perform one immediately, since there are clearly no flash-related issues when you're on stock!
But, it would be fine to go ahead and perform one now. In fact, perform one now. That's an order!
So tonight I was trying to show off my phone to a friend that didn't understand the concept of rooting. I made a nandroid of my current rom, so I could flash a past nandroid. As I started flashing, it was able to flash the boot and the system, but it could not flash the data for some odd reason. I am using clockwork mod 2.5.0.7, and have been using it before, but have never ran into this problem. I even tried flashing the nandroid that I had made tonight, but the same problem occurred. Any ideas?
Ps. My roms were MIUI 1.8.5(nandroid tonight) and Synergy RC 1(past nandroid).
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So tonight I was trying to show off my phone to a friend that didn't understand the concept of rooting. I made a nandroid of my current rom, so I could flash a past nandroid. As I started flashing, it was able to flash the boot and the system, but it could not flash the data for some odd reason. I am using clockwork mod 2.5.0.7, and have been using it before, but have never ran into this problem. I even tried flashing the nandroid that I had made tonight, but the same problem occurred. Any ideas?
Ps. My roms were MIUI 1.8.5(nandroid tonight) and Synergy RC 1(past nandroid).
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Was your battery level low?
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Was your battery level low?
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It was at 60%. All I've read is that 30% is the minimum you can flash stuff at so the phone won't die.
Did you have ample space on your sd card when the backup was made? Cuz if not that portion could have been corrupted and not flashing.
+1 for a corrupted nand. Was there any transfers of the nand between pc and phone? Sometimes they can get corrupted like that. Also I suggest using amon ra 2.3 for recovery.
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I have plenty of space on my sdcard (1.74 GB), and I had not messed with it on my computer. After trying the synergy backup and it not working, I tried to restore the backup I had just made that night, and it came up with the same problem. And I switched to Amon a few months back, but it is not as convenient as Clockwork to make nand backups. I have been contemplating switching to Amon, but the convenience of Clockwork is overwhelming with rom manager.