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Locked to 3... will rooting/rom free me?

Excuse the newb question...
If I get an HTC Desire locked to the 3 network, will rooting/new rom free me from the carrier's lock?

eesmm said:
Excuse the newb question...
If I get an HTC Desire locked to the 3 network, will rooting/new rom free me from the carrier's lock?
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No. You need a SIM code. Depending on laws in your country, you might get one free from that cell provider it's locked to. If not, they're always available for sale online, about $25 USD or so.

My 3 Desire wasn't locked. It was bought from a 3 Store.

TheOriginalKi said:
My 3 Desire wasn't locked. It was bought from a 3 Store.
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That's great news. Can anybody confirm that the 3/payg Desires are unlocked?
(TheOriginalKi, please forgive my asking this but I am having it sent abroad and need to be 200% certain before I fork out the cash - your logo here implies you are on the 3 network, so which other carrier did you try it on?)

My Desire from the merry Hill 3 store was also unlocked.
I went into Solihull originally and they told me that it might be locked or it might not be locked :S and there is no returns on the phone.
After phoning Merry Hill, where they had me an unlocked one reserved, I was told that they received a batch of unlocked ones and aren't sure if the next batch would be unlocked.
Not sure how much of that is true, but that's what I was told by the 3 staff. Mine works fine though , £350 too, great price.

can also confirm my desire from 3uk is unlocked

3 stated that becuase of high demand, they started shipping out unbranded and unlocked devices while they finished tweaking their custom, branded ROM. I've no idea if they've started shipping the ones with the 3 ROM yet.

WillyVWade said:
3 stated that becuase of high demand, they started shipping out unbranded and unlocked devices while they finished tweaking their custom, branded ROM. I've no idea if they've started shipping the ones with the 3 ROM yet.
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So I'm going to call the 3 shop ahead to make sure.
Is there a way for them to know the locked/unlocked status of a device without powering up (something on the packaging)? I can only assume the staff will be a bit clueless when i ask...
(Big thankyou to all who replied, btw)

Do they have a 3 logo on the back?
They might have 3 branded boxes, but I've never had a branded box with 3.
If they have them on display in store, it's a bad sign. IIRC, They were only sending out the generic devices over the phone and to web pre-orderers.

WillyVWade said:
Do they have a 3 logo on the back?
They might have 3 branded boxes, but I've never had a branded box with 3.
If they have them on display in store, it's a bad sign. IIRC, They were only sending out the generic devices over the phone and to web pre-orderers.
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They had a phone on display when I went in to the store and mine was a generic phone.
No idea if the 3 branded ones will have a 3 logo on the box, mine was a generic htc box though.

Psy-Blade said:
They had a phone on display when I went in to the store and mine was a generic phone.
No idea if the 3 branded ones will have a 3 logo on the box, mine was a generic htc box though.
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I went in to my local 3 store and asked if I could use one, they told me they wouldn't have any generic stock or display models.

eesmm said:
That's great news. Can anybody confirm that the 3/payg Desires are unlocked?
(TheOriginalKi, please forgive my asking this but I am having it sent abroad and need to be 200% certain before I fork out the cash - your logo here implies you are on the 3 network, so which other carrier did you try it on?)
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They handed me a HTC Desire in a HTC Desire box, no 3 branding of any kind, then they handed me a PAYG sim card pack. I'm actually using my 3 contract sim in the phone, but just to check I popped in my brothers o2 Sim and it turned on and displayed the o2 carrier logo. Do not let them know you are not planning to use it on their network or they will refuse to sell it on PAYG. Another thing, they also made me buy a £10 top-voucher, which I was able to sell to a 3 PAYG user.

That's great news. Can anybody confirm that the 3/payg Desires are unlocked
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Definately not locked as brought one on Friday on payg on 3, no branding at all and works on o2 (which is what I wanted it for).

I can confirm that as well, Got mine in leeds although with a contract, but popped my t-mob PAYG in and it worked fine

Mine was unlocked aswell, got it from the retention team, box had 3 sticker but phone had none. Tested with other sim and worked fine. This all might change when they get more out, and have time to brand it. Usually they would have the 3 on the phone. good luck

Operator Desire VS proper SIM free Desire

Is there any advantage to getting a desire thats been nowhere near o2/Voda/3/Orange/T-Mobile ?

The proper sim free Desire will not have any network branding or apps installed and it will be first in line for any updates released by HTC. Plus, you won't have to run the risk of debranding the phone and losing its warranty
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

YES!
Orange have mutilated the Desire, ****ed around with the apps, broken the browser, and muddled up the voicemail - it's a car crash.
T-Mo have been kinder, but they decided to volume limit the damned thing, which is hugely annoying when your favourite tune come on.
I don't know what Voda, O2 or 3 have done to theirs.
However, you can always debrand a carrier-subsidised phone by flashing the ROM, it's an easy procedure (search - there are loads of guides) but it might void your warranty. If the operator's ROM is available in the wild then you might be able to reflash it before sending it off for repair, but you cannot flash an older bootloader over a newer one which might put you in a pickle in 18 months time if your debranded phone's been updated a few times OTA and only old operator ROMs are available.
Therefore, your best bet is to get it unbranded, you could eithe pay £380 full whack for it or get it from Carphone Warehouse or online and get the benefit of the subsidy as well.
It's an amazing phone, man, AMAZING!

£380
where ??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just whack "htc desire" into Google shopping. Saw it on Amazon for £390 or so earlier today.

I think play.com are doing it for 389 now.

me thinks cpw will be 399.99 richer tomorrow
and I will be 130 poorer (sold my iphone 3gs for 270 today)
are the cpw ones proper sim free's?

cirian75 said:
me thinks cpw will be 399.99 richer tomorrow
and I will be 130 poorer (sold my iphone 3gs for 270 today)
are the cpw ones proper sim free's?
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Mine was, best phone I've ever owned...
And to mirror what others are saying - ALWAYS get SIM-free phones if you can

me thinks it's a plan
Nexus Ones a silly money sim free.

cirian75 said:
me thinks it's a plan
Nexus Ones a silly money sim free.
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It'd be first to get 'proper' FroYo but I don't like the trackball - one more thing to possibly break and if anything like my missus BlackBerry it'll stop working within a couple of months!

EddyOS, your local to me lol
also, I had a blackberry 8800
went through 5 trackballs in a year, but £10 for a bag 5, meh, wasn't fussed
Then they integrated in on the 1st Bold
I just hope the desire gets ginger bread.

cirian75 said:
£380
where ??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
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!£350 at 3 unlocked unbranded
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Generic HTC Desire on Vodafone in the uk
I cant see any way my desire is locked, or modified by Vodafone - i used to avoid them in the past as Id seen the mess they made of some handsets, but to the best of my knowledge the one I got from them 6 weeks ago is completely standard.
I know it's not locked to any networks, already tried a few different sims in and it works fine, and nothing in the Software Info suggests locking or customisation.
If you need a contract of some sorts it seems a good plan, its a free phone and my contract works out at about £400 over the 18 months anyway, not to mention all the data text and calls i get in the deal
S

mancuk29 said:
!£350 at 3 unlocked unbranded
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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yeah 3 has it for that price but not many will offer it as they get less commission if they sell on payg but who knows you might get lucky.. oh apparently they need you to buy a £10 top up now so total is £360

steveapp said:
I cant see any way my desire is locked, or modified by Vodafone - i used to avoid them in the past as Id seen the mess they made of some handsets, but to the best of my knowledge the one I got from them 6 weeks ago is completely standard.
I know it's not locked to any networks, already tried a few different sims in and it works fine, and nothing in the Software Info suggests locking or customisation.
If you need a contract of some sorts it seems a good plan, its a free phone and my contract works out at about £400 over the 18 months anyway, not to mention all the data text and calls i get in the deal
S
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Check your FW version in Settings>About phone>Software version
if you've got x.xx.161.x then it's a Vodafone branded handset, if it's x.xx.405.x then it's a SIM-free handset

just rang 3 "3" stores
nope on the sim free version

£389.99 on Play.com
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...?_$ja=tsid:11518|cc:|prd:13665745|cat:Mobile+

Guess I was lucky with my Three handset.
I took one out on a contract and got a totally unlocked and unbranded handset.
Apparantly it was because they were having problems getting three branded handsets so all the shops were send unlocked/unbranded ones to help with the demand!
Cool eh!
Phil

I have it right now in my hand
£399.95 sim free from CPW
setting it up.

EddyOS said:
Check your FW version in Settings>About phone>Software version
if you've got x.xx.161.x then it's a Vodafone branded handset, if it's x.xx.405.x then it's a SIM-free handset
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It is interesting that Vodafone (UK) are not branding the Desire - their unlocked policy is well known.
When I compare a Vodafone handset to my unbranded (bought that way) Desire, the Vodafone handset has even less 'bloat-ware'!!!
As commented elsewhere, I will get any Firmware upgrades first - but I don't understand Vodafone's logic: -
No branding.
Unlocked.
So why not just hand out default unbranded HTC phones, if you're not going to control the experience...??
MMB.

Bell HTC Desire Z Root

OK. So I am looking to buy the Bell HTC Desire Z to run CM on it... but I haven't heard of any confirmed roots yet. Can anyone confirm this?
Thanks

It's been rooted since the same time as the G2, earlier this month. CM 6.1 RC2 runs fine on it.

Yea so the same root as for the G2 works on the Bell Desire Z?

Beast11 said:
Yea so the same root as for the G2 works on the Bell Desire Z?
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Yes i have the desire z.look at our android development section. Root is easy as cake
Sent from HTC Desire Z using XDA App

It's the same thing.

convolution said:
It's the same thing.
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That is the answer i was looking for... Thanks. Gotta get my Galaxy S back from service then sell it to someone, and i'll have a Desire Z as well

Right now the Desire Z has its own set of forums. But this is causing a lot of overlap and duplication of efforts, so hopefully they'll be merged soon.
Right now the procedures to root your Bell DZ are in the DZ forums.

steviewevie said:
Right now the Desire Z has its own set of forums. But this is causing a lot of overlap and duplication of efforts, so hopefully they'll be merged soon.
Right now the procedures to root your Bell DZ are in the DZ forums.
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Oh wow...i completely missed that.

Yo I hope it's not too late.
Don't buy it from Bell at $499.95 no contract. It won't work cause you are fido. It will only work if you have a friend who is on the Bell network buy it for you. And even if you manage such a feat it is still too expensive.
I got my G2 off of this guy on Craiglist. It was brand new (even the battery had the little plastic thing on it), and I got it for $480.
I unlocked it, and even though it is a T-Mobile phone it works for Fido no problem.
BTW where in mississauga do you live?
I'm sure Square One might have some unlocking service.
Though if they don't, or if they have expensive ones, go to
mobileincanada.com.
They are the best there is.

convolution said:
Yo I hope it's not too late.
Don't buy it from Bell at $499.95 no contract. It won't work cause you are fido. It will only work if you have a friend who is on the Bell network buy it for you. And even if you manage such a feat it is still too expensive.
I got my G2 off of this guy on Craiglist. It was brand new (even the battery had the little plastic thing on it), and I got it for $480.
I unlocked it, and even though it is a T-Mobile phone it works for Fido no problem.
BTW where in mississauga do you live?
I'm sure Square One might have some unlocking service.
Though if they don't, or if they have expensive ones, go to
mobileincanada.com.
They are the best there is.
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What do you mean it wont work? it wont work on fido's network or the price isnt worth it? I'm also thinking of getting it from Bell.

lollipox said:
What do you mean it wont work? it wont work on fido's network or the price isnt worth it? I'm also thinking of getting it from Bell.
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I have mine running on Telus. It will work fine all 4 carriers (GSM and HSPA).
The TMobile version will not have 3g on Fido.
I got mine from Best Buy but I had to get manager's permission as I was not with Bell. The phone was only available for Bell customers when I got it. If they hassle you ask for the manager. They can make it happen.

It works just fine on fido...mine does. Bestbuy can sell it no porblem. Go to the queensway one as they sold it to me there. Yes you do pay a premium but i dont mind the extra cash as its brand new with a receipt with my name on it.

I mean you being a Fido customer just mosey on up to a Bell store to buy the Desire Z outright with no plan won't work.
It does work with Fido network.

I bought mine on Pay As You Go for $499 from Bell. Unlocked it and I'm now using it on Rogers.
Only issue is I can't send or receive MMS messages. I think it's just an APN issue thought. Mobile internet (3G and HSDPA) works great.

I never even tried MMS. Did you have to pay an activation fee?

No
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

DVDWSN said:
I bought mine on Pay As You Go for $499 from Bell. Unlocked it and I'm now using it on Rogers.
Only issue is I can't send or receive MMS messages. I think it's just an APN issue thought. Mobile internet (3G and HSDPA) works great.
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Yea i think there is a separate APN for MMS.
I know abt the thing where bell doesnt let you buy it unless you are with them... I went through my cousin to get my sgs (unfourtunately). But will bb sell it to you if your not on bell?? Cause that could be ideal and i wouldnt have to pay the extra $20 bell charges for an upgrade to existing customers.
And i cant find anyone on kijiji selling it... like there is no one...

convolution said:
Yo I hope it's not too late.
Don't buy it from Bell at $499.95 no contract. It won't work cause you are fido. It will only work if you have a friend who is on the Bell network buy it for you. And even if you manage such a feat it is still too expensive.
I got my G2 off of this guy on Craiglist. It was brand new (even the battery had the little plastic thing on it), and I got it for $480.
I unlocked it, and even though it is a T-Mobile phone it works for Fido no problem.
BTW where in mississauga do you live?
I'm sure Square One might have some unlocking service.
Though if they don't, or if they have expensive ones, go to
mobileincanada.com.
They are the best there is.
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Yea, unlcoking im not worried abt because the new root method unlocks the phone (im sorry if you paid to get it unlocked lol). And the Tmobile G2 will work on Bell/ Fido/ Rogers/ Telus, but without 3G speeds... and that is a requirement for me...

I'm a Rogers subscriber who purchased a Bell Desire Z outright last night. Played with it at work and then until almost 6am!! LOL
It was so tough to root for me....... because I mistakenly didn't have the gfree file in the directory and made another stupid mistake. Rooted, using a global stock ROM with ADWLauncher and the 1.4GHz kernal as I don't like the custom roms all too much. This is a HUGE leap forward from my Xperia X10. So happy right now (and tired!)

rajbaba2 said:
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Those jerks at my local Bell stored tried to make me pay a 30 dollar activation fee.
Bastards...
Craigslist is always ftw.

[Q] Is it possible to buy this phone not from Bell?

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone in Toronto area would know a place to buy the HTC Desire Z that isn't from Bell?
Or if it is from Bell, contains no Bell software (unbranded) and is unlocked?
I've been looking and haven't had any luck.
and has anyone noticed that Rogers is falling behind in the phone model area? Their phones are kind of getting outdated...
Thanks!

I uphave one unlocked with rogers....yeh there wayy behimd in terms of android. I suggest checking out kijiji.com or look at ebay or craigslist. If all else fails pm me and ill find you some online.
Sent from HTC Desire Z using XDA App

I purchased an unlocked/unbranded Desire Z on Ebay to use in the states on the AT&T network. It was a North American Version which had the correct 3G bands for ATT. Had a good seller and good experience but the phone was quite pricey. They go for anywhere between $550 and $650 US.

I would suggest buying it from Bell via FutureShop or BestBuy.
You don't have to get a plan if you do that, plus they offer their extended warranties which still cover you if you root the phone, etc (though you should still make it appear stock).
You can flash the official WWE ROM which is basically stock HTC Sense. It won't have the Bell apps, and you don't need to root or anything to flash the WWE ROM (I think). You just need to make a 'goldcard' which is just a specially formatted SD card.

rewen said:
I would suggest buying it from Bell via FutureShop or BestBuy.
You don't have to get a plan if you do that, plus they offer their extended warranties which still cover you if you root the phone, etc (though you should still make it appear stock).
You can flash the official WWE ROM which is basically stock HTC Sense. It won't have the Bell apps, and you don't need to root or anything to flash the WWE ROM (I think). You just need to make a 'goldcard' which is just a specially formatted SD card.
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Yeah I was gonna buy one from Bell, but I don't know any trustworthy sites I can buy the unlock code from, which was why I opened this thread, but anyone here know one?

Nighte said:
Yeah I was gonna buy one from Bell, but I don't know any trustworthy sites I can buy the unlock code from, which was why I opened this thread, but anyone here know one?
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Be careful, because G2 owners have found big problems when they unlock their phones, like not being able to connect to any network after that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835673

Cellunlock.net with the code bbrocks50 for half price. You can find the phone listed a couple different ways. Either by first looking up htc or by first looking up bell. One is chapter than the other. I paid 15.
Zero issues unlocking. I think the issues are limited to g2.

I'm unlocked with Telus currently..and I used HTCsimUnlowNow.com. Seemed to work fine..the only thing was it was initially $15, but then I had to send them another $10 (after paying the 15) because of the Bell carrier or some excuse. So far i've had no problems..and i'm even able to use my BB data plan with the HTC despite Telus telling me it most likely wouldnt work lol.

I was wondering if I'm able to remove Bell's software using a program (TitaniumBackup, for example) or do I have to go through that whole process of flashing this and that to unbrand it?
And how bothersome is the Bell software?
..Although I'm gonna do it anyway but I don't have time right now to mod the phone.

You need root and it takes a lot of time to do it with titanium. It's easier to flash the wwe rom. But the apps aren't too annoying. The lack of htc locations is annoying

To elaborate on my last msg (which I wrote in a rush)..
It's more painful and takes longer to remove the apps manually as you need to root and then use Titanium's force remove method, one by one, which reboots the phone each time and takes forever.
Alternatively you could root and then S-OFF and delete those apps with the root file manager.
Or, the easiest/quickest way imho is to borrow/make a goldcard, download the euro HTC Sync, the WWE Rom, and run the ROM install program. It does the rest of the work for you

I was gonna go buy the phone today but Bell won't sell it unless I go on a plan.
I called up several different places, all the same reply, they won't let the phone go unless it's going out with a plan.
Does anyone know where I could buy it in and around Toronto?

Nighte said:
I was gonna go buy the phone today but Bell won't sell it unless I go on a plan.
I called up several different places, all the same reply, they won't let the phone go unless it's going out with a plan.
Does anyone know where I could buy it in and around Toronto?
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I asked at our local Best Buy (Oshawa) yesterday and they said they can sell the phone without a plan, no problem.

I bought mine today, you can buy it at WirelessWave or Telephone booth for the retail price.
I did notice the timestamp on the text messages are incorrect though, does anyone else have this problem?

I bought mine brand new on ebay for $375, t-mobile branded.. paid $15 to unlock it.
I suggest watching for a cheap one on ebay, maybe even try to bargain with some sellers.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

I suggest not buying from bell, or anything that is compatible with bell, unless you need it for ATT US or in Australia. Reason is that they use the wrong frequencies for use in Canada and would lock you to ROBELUS (the old evil phone companies). The US version of the vision is better... still compatible with robbers, but also with the best things that have happened to telecommunications in canada.... ever.

It sounds like we should start an exchange:
T-Mobile/Wind compatible phones exchanged for Bell/Telus/Rogers/AT&T compatible phones...
I'm on AT&T and I'd love to find the Bell Desire Z for purchase at a reasonable price. All the prices I've seen are ~$650 but the phones retail price is $500. Maybe I'm just not used to Canadian taxes... can my Canadian brethren enlighten this ignorant American as to how much the phone would cost unsubsidized after taxes?

You can get them straight from Bell for $565, with tax (13% on 499.95). If you look on kijiji and CL you can get them anywhere from $400-$500.
I bought mine yesterday for $480, no tax, and factory unlocked. It was brand new and sealed and came with a receipt for the warranty.
A lot of people are fooled into paying $600-$650 for an unlocked phone because sellers try to tell them that it costs $80-$100 to unlock it. But if people would take the time to look they would find you can get it unlocked for $25.

MyNameIsWepeel said:
A lot of people are fooled into paying $600-$650 for an unlocked phone because sellers try to tell them that it costs $80-$100 to unlock it. But if people would take the time to look they would find you can get it unlocked for $25.
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You can get it locked for free now, thanks to the fantastic work of scotty. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857390

I'm on Rogers and I'm having a heck of a time trying to find out. Everyone wants to charge an arm and a leg. Trying to trade my Xperia X10 and some cash for a Desire Z.

[Q] T-Mobile UK - Unbranded?

I'm thinking of getting the DHD, but before I do can others in the UK who have one on T-Mobile confirm that it's totally unbranded please?
Thanks!

Confirmed that it's totally unbranded.
However it would be useful for you be informed it's network locked.

Mines unbranded unlocked (sim free) although I had mine in the FIRST few days of release.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

I got mine a week ago and its unbranded, no sin to check network lock though
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Get it from CPW ot P4U and it'll be unbranded. I believe, as has been said, all the early ones even from the operators are unbranded but no telling what will happen in the next few months.
Dave - unbranded Vodafone DHD from CPW
PS: the above applies to contract and SIM only. Not necessarily to PAYG (was in the shop today talking about a new phone for my old man...)

Mine was un branded but Sim locked

Ok, thanks for the replies. That's great.
Desire HD ordered How long did you guys have to wait for stock & delivery?

yep, mine was unbranded and unlocked from tmobile

I was told by T-Mob that I would have to wait till January for the DHD. On that basis I ordered from mobiles.co.uk instead and got the phone on next day delivery. However, looking on T-Mob site now it appears they have them back in stock.

Daz555 said:
I was told by T-Mob that I would have to wait till January for the DHD. On that basis I ordered from mobiles.co.uk instead and got the phone on next day delivery. However, looking on T-Mob site now it appears they have them back in stock.
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Yeah, I considered elsewhere but they (T-Mobile) did me a good deal as an upgrade. I wonder if they are saying they have them in stock on the T-Mobile site when they haven't or are giving them to new contracts only...

iridium21 said:
Ok, thanks for the replies. That's great.
Desire HD ordered How long did you guys have to wait for stock & delivery?
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Ordered on a Friday afternoon, got it on Monday the following week but that was before they were officially listed as available on the site. Make sure you take a look at the hardware issues like camera misalignment and small gaps between the battery cover. I'm waiting until about January before I send mine off for warranty repair over it since I figure they'll have more stock and I'll have to wait less time.

At risk of sounding like a noob, can I ask: doesn't unbranded mean the phone has no mention of the network at all?
If it does my t-mobile desire HD (ordered 1st december) certainly isn't unbranded, as it says t-mobile on booting and shutting down, and has a 'T-Mobile Recommends' app.
Not to mention the homepage on the internet browser was set to T-Mobile's mobile site when I got it.
Or does it just mean that T-Mobile isn't actually printed on the phone?

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At risk of sounding like a noob, can I ask: doesn't unbranded mean it has no mention of the network at all? If it does my t-mobile desire HD (ordered 1st december) certainly isn't unbranded, as it says t-mobile on booting and shutting down, and has a 'T-Mobile Recommends app, as well as the homepage on the internet browser being set to T-Mobile's mobile site when I got it.
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Ah, as far as I'm concerned, that's branded It doesn't actually say "T-Mobile" on the phone too, does it? That really would p**s me off!
I've never had a 'branded' phone before, so how does one go about repairs - can you send it straight to HTC or do you have to go through T-Mobile?
Oh, and any tips for flashing a stock ROM?

iridium21 said:
Ah, as far as I'm concerned, that's branded It doesn't actually say "T-Mobile" on the phone too, does it? That really would p**s me off!
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Haha, don't worry, its software only..
From what I can gather, maybe you can flash a custom ROM? The t-mobile apps can at least be deleted with titanium backup.

Dyonas said:
Ordered on a Friday afternoon, got it on Monday the following week but that was before they were officially listed as available on the site. Make sure you take a look at the hardware issues like camera misalignment and small gaps between the battery cover. I'm waiting until about January before I send mine off for warranty repair over it since I figure they'll have more stock and I'll have to wait less time.
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What exactly is the camera misalignment issue? My camera lens isn't centered, is this a problem, or is it normal? Haven't noticed any problems with it from actually using the camera..
As for the small gaps, if you're referring to the SIM cover, I never had a problem with it after reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827091 before I got the HD.

Got my DHD today - unlocked & unbranded
I'm happy!