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[Q] data plan

hi i download froyo 2.2 to my htc touch pro2 for t-mobile and i was wondering if i will get charged if i don't change my unlimited windows data plan to an unlimited android data plan while using the internet and the android market

d_freshley said:
hi i download froyo 2.2 to my htc touch pro2 for t-mobile and i was wondering if i will get charged if i don't change my unlimited windows data plan to an unlimited android data plan while using the internet and the android market
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Just use it... if it works, great. I know Cricket users had issues because Cricket would block access to the market, but I don't know of any other carrier that does this.

thanks
but my phone doesn't block my internet im just worried that t-mobile will charge because im using android internet on a windows data plan

d_freshley said:
but my phone doesn't block my internet im just worried that t-mobile will charge because im using android internet on a windows data plan
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I'm on Sprint and they haven't said a thing if it makes you feel any better... I can't make any guarantees that your provider won't tho.

thanks
when u got your touch pro 2 did you have to switch your data to windows

d_freshley said:
when u got your touch pro 2 did you have to switch your data to windows
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Switch my data to Windows...? What does that even mean?

hes tryin to say theres no such thing as a windows data plan, android data plan, etc. You have one data plan that covers your acct. whatever you do to your phone is still under the same data plan.

and he was being nice about it, frankly i would have just said that if you don't understand that much than you shouldn't be on this website

noodles21o2 said:
and he was being nice about it, frankly i would have just said that if you don't understand that much than you shouldn't be on this website
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you're absolutely right

thanks 4 the tip

im not exactly sure what you mean but it shouldnt matter...android or windows because youre accessing the internet through your carriers network...should be the same either way

He sounds like a U.S. Cellular guy, like myself, so let me elaborate:
USCC is charging $25/mo for data plans if you have a BB or WinMo, but that goes up to $30/mo if you have an Android (they claim Android users will eat more network load, though we here at XDA all know that's a pretty vague excuse).
But no, they have no idea (or care) that you are using Android on the TP2 and not paying the $30/mo. Go live it up.

i have been using android on my tmo tp2 pretty much since its been available...i have never had any extra charges
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I think it depends on your carrier...
Here's a rule of thumb - if the market works & everything else works as expected, you're probably OK. If the market traffic is blocked, then your carrier probably wants you to pay extra $$$ for an Android data plan.

@noodles21o2 and Chizzwizz... no reason to be rude, its a valid question for some carriers... To your posts I say if you have nothing worth while to say, don't post on this site, I cannot stand those bs elitist answers.
@ OP.... if it makes you feel any better, I was using a blackberry as a temp phone until I got my tp 2 replaced, I switched it to a blackberry internet plan but I never switched it back and my internet works just fine in windows mobile and android. I dont think that anyone really knows (or cares) If they really wanted to I am sure they can poll your device... but will they in the vast sea of users using the cell broadband network? Likely not. I wouldn't worry about it.

chizzwhizz said:
hes tryin to say theres no such thing as a windows data plan, android data plan, etc. You have one data plan that covers your acct. whatever you do to your phone is still under the same data plan.
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there is no rudeness in my comment...i was really tryin to be helpful...didnt kno us cellular was weird

chizzwhizz said:
us cellular was weird
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USCC is weird about a lot of things, lol

noodles21o2 said:
and he was being nice about it, frankly i would have just said that if you don't understand that much than you shouldn't be on this website
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People like you need to remember we are not all the same and we don't all know the same.
If you don't want top help a noob out then shut what they call the hell up and remember we were all there at one time.

d_freshley said:
when u got your touch pro 2 did you have to switch your data to windows
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If it makes you feel any better I am on a Sprint plan where they specifically said that android is not allowed and I still use my touchpro2 all the time with android.

my apologies to the OP, i got my data plan 4 years ago and still on my parents plan so i dont see the bill. i was unaware that things have changed since then

Wifi hot spot? VZW...

Hey can someone confirm whether the stock wifi hotspot feature works on the Verizon galaxy nexus without having to add a tethering plan?
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When I select to turn it on, it runs through a "checking for subscription" then pops up an Error window that I'm not authorized to run it and have to call Customer Service. It was the first thing I tried as soon as I walked out of the VZW store this morning.

Greg Tolan said:
Hey can someone confirm whether the stock wifi hotspot feature works on the Verizon galaxy nexus without having to add a tethering plan?
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I'd like to know this as well. Chances are though, you have to be rooted and the hotspot app will have to be hacked for it to be used without detection check by VZW. I am with Sprint OG Samsung Epic, and these were the necessary steps to get Sprint hotspot to work without having a plan. I am sure a dev will be able to get it done in time. In the meantime, suggest rooting and using either Barnacle tether or Wifi Tether, or if you want to stay stock: PDANet.

After root - wired tether will work.
After root - WiFi tether will NOT work. It has the 'blocktether' thing on there.

keatre said:
After root - wired tether will work.
After root - WiFi tether will NOT work. It has the 'blocktether' thing on there.
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Ouch. Any available apps/workarounds to enable wireless tether? This is a make-or-break issue for me right now in terms of getting the phone.

Framework patch. Give it a week. Or just pay for it.
dohturdima said:
Ouch. Any available apps/workarounds to enable wireless tether? This is a make-or-break issue for me right now in terms of getting the phone.
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Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

dohturdima said:
Ouch. Any available apps/workarounds to enable wireless tether? This is a make-or-break issue for me right now in terms of getting the phone.
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At this moment, you'll need an LTE rom or patch that disables the 'blocktether' methinks. I am running stock for the rest of the week, so I cannot test - apologies.

dohturdima said:
Ouch. Any available apps/workarounds to enable wireless tether? This is a make-or-break issue for me right now in terms of getting the phone.
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Just root your phone. There is no downside to that.

pharpe said:
Just root your phone. There is no downside to that.
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That's not the problem. Not being able to tether could potentially be a dealbreaker for some people (myself included).

Its blocked. You've got to root and remove the software they have for tracking tethering. Or wait for a CDMA custom ROM to come out that has unblocked tethering.
jumaaneface said:
Or just pay for it.
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LOL

If it's that big of a deal, pay for it then.

keatre said:
At this moment, you'll need an LTE rom or patch that disables the 'blocktether' methinks. I am running stock for the rest of the week, so I cannot test - apologies.
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Yup. You'll just have to get a rom that has tethering open for all of our hearts' content!

Anyone tried this app ht tp://goo.gl/LZCZO or the paid version ? Can't believe VZW sucks so bad, makes sense now why the phone was delayed so long... Google arguing against VZW breaking and crippling their beautiful OS. But I just bought one this morning and being delivered tomorrow.

triunetehk said:
Anyone tried this app ht tp://goo.gl/LZCZO or the paid version ? Can't believe VZW sucks so bad, makes sense now why the phone was delayed so long... Google arguing against VZW breaking and crippling their beautiful OS. But I just bought one this morning and being delivered tomorrow.
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Using a 3rd party app doesn't remove Verizon's tracking software. They'll still see you're doing it based on my experiences w/ VZW phones...

I'm assuming you guys have tried Google's Wireless Tether app. No dice?

triunetehk said:
Anyone tried this app ht tp://goo.gl/LZCZO or the paid version ? Can't believe VZW sucks so bad, makes sense now why the phone was delayed so long... Google arguing against VZW breaking and crippling their beautiful OS. But I just bought one this morning and being delivered tomorrow.
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Not letting people steal bandwidth is not crippling the OS. Don't get me wrong I think paying for tethering is beyond retarded but it is a paid service that they offer there is no reason for them to give it away for free.
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joshnichols189 said:
Not letting people steal bandwidth is not crippling the OS. Don't get me wrong I think paying for tethering is beyond retarded but it is a paid service that they offer there is no reason for them to give it away for free.
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People aren't "stealing" bandwidth. They're paying for it and using it. This isn't even an argument in a world of capped data plans. If you pay for 2GB or 4GB or 10GB+, you're buying that bandwidth from VZW. Its yours to use. And carriers are being beyond ridiculous, forcing consumers to pay for data twice.
And it is crippling (albeit thats a bit dramatic) the OS. ICS (and 2.2, 2.3) has wired/wireless tethering enabled. Removing that, is removing a feature that used to make the OS whole.

Just to clear the air -
Currently - no matter what App you use, you cannot WiFi tether.
Verizon is blocking ALL WiFi tether - you will need to remove the check.

Thanks for the update. What are the chances that this check can be removed? I know people with the Bionic were having problems tethering (still not sure if they can).
This is a deal breaker for me, so I'm hoping it isn't something too complicated for the devs to remove.
P.S. Let's not turn this into a morality thread. This is a place to discuss whether or not you can get WiFi tethering working without paying extra for it.

This is a huge problem, I need to tether by next Thursday.

[Q] Hotspot Question

Hello,
Id like to know if I root my ATT S3 can i use an alternate hotspot app like wi-fi tether and avoid ATT's premium data charges?

zeno163420 said:
Hello,
Id like to know if I root my ATT S3 can i use an alternate hotspot app like wi-fi tether and avoid ATT's premium data charges?
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Typically you can "end-around" the restrictions on tethering and creating mobile hotspots, but carriers are getting increasingly savvy about detecting this (though there is not a great deal of intelligence about the exact methods used by each carrier) and ultimately shuffling customer into plans that include tethering. If you choose to go down this path, I would recommend using it sparingly, and prepare for the possibility of a plan change.

Thanks!
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Typically you can "end-around" the restrictions on tethering and creating mobile hotspots, but carriers are getting increasingly savvy about detecting this (though there is not a great deal of intelligence about the exact methods used by each carrier) and ultimately shuffling customer into plans that include tethering. If you choose to go down this path, I would recommend using it sparingly, and prepare for the possibility of a plan change.
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Thank you! right now im already in a plan that includes hotspot but ATT charges an arm and a leg for this service! Im just looking for a work-around these charges and maybe bring my bill down but it may not be worth it if they can detect and change your plan automatically. Thanks again for the input!

zeno163420 said:
Thank you! right now im already in a plan that includes hotspot but ATT charges an arm and a leg for this service! Im just looking for a work-around these charges and maybe bring my bill down but it may not be worth it if they can detect and change your plan automatically. Thanks again for the input!
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They won't change it automatically, at first. They will send you a nice letter advising you are tethering and currently do not have a plan that supports it. I used it 1 day for an hour recently and got the letter. I have unlimited data and think they are specifically targeting these plans to get us off of them.

ed20910 said:
They won't change it automatically, at first. They will send you a nice letter advising you are tethering and currently do not have a plan that supports it. I used it 1 day for an hour recently and got the letter. I have unlimited data and think they are specifically targeting these plans to get us off of them.
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WoW, I guess its true they really ARE watching us ALL THE TIME...

[Q] Questions about unlocking HTC One M8, using unlimited data for mobile hotspot

Hello folks, Ive lurked here for a while and gotten great info and am hoping to get some help here. I apologize if some of what Im asking is obvious to you folks but it isnt to me so here I am. I tried HoFo but got no help there.
Ive been using factory unlocked Sony Xperias for a while (Z, ZL, Z Ultra)so never had this issue before, but I have an HTC One M8 coming and unfortunately its ATT branded, though I bought it from a private seller and not ATT themselves. Im also grandfathered into unlimited data for many years now, and with my Sonys can turn on mobile hotspot anytime and use my data with ATT none the wiser. Now Im assuming since I was dumb enough to buy an ATT phone, I will be told to contact ATT once I pop in my SIM and try to turn on mobile hotspot, is this correct? If so, will unlocking the phone resolve this issue? As of now ATT has no idea Ive bought this phone, nor did they ever even recognize my Sonys because they never sold them, but since this is an ATT M8, Im assuming theyll know immediately what Im using, identify my plan and lock me out. Im hoping I can get around that.
I also imagine since its an ATT phone it will have all sorts of abilities locked out and a lot of fluff added in. How can I get the features unlocked? Is there anyway to buy a carrier branded phone and get it to be similar to one that was bought factory unlocked from the beginning and never branded?
Any help and advice would be appreciated and TIA

Ok, if I asked too much stuff there that was obvious to you but not me, can someone just please tell me if unlocking the bootloader will at least unlock the mobile hotspot function for me so I can turn it on?

Well, just unlocked, rooted, s-off and twrpd my first phone. What a b*tch, lol! But I had to learn one of these days. Sadly, still cant get the native or any other mobile hotspot app to work though. I saw a thread about a VZW M8 hack but still cant seem to find anything for this ATT thing. No one even willing to talk to me?

Muti007 said:
Well, just unlocked, rooted, s-off and twrpd my first phone. What a b*tch, lol! But I had to learn one of these days. Sadly, still cant get the native or any other mobile hotspot app to work though. I saw a thread about a VZW M8 hack but still cant seem to find anything for this ATT thing. No one even willing to talk to me?
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You can try wiFi Tether Router. Its in the play market but you have to pay $2.50 for it. Has worked for me. I don't think this app can be dectected by the carriers like ATT because it does't use the native hotspot of the phone.

Youll have to flash a custom rom that has this feature [email protected] and is debloated,xarrier build will block it and tell you to conract them.....

This is not going to help you at all, but I pay the extra $30 per month. I use up to 50GB of data each month tethering, and I want to make sure the my carrier doesn't block me.
So now that I've done my service by telling you to do the right thing, you use to be able to go in using SQLLite and turn off the checker. For VZW it was around line 149 - 160. Can't remember. I would think you could do that for AT&T. Maybe someone knows? Or maybe AT&T doesn't work like that any more, of maybe KK doesn't work like that any more.

[Q] No root tether for VZW M9 ?

Hi folks.
So i'm looking at having to replace my DNA. I usually root all my phones but honestly the only reason i do is because i have an unlimited data plan still and i want wifi tethering without being robbed. Unlimited in my opinion means unlimited, VZW can go do horribly inappropriate things to themselves regarding their definition of unlimited.
From what I have read i'm not certain if you can even get the boot loader unlocked, get s-off and root on the VZW m9. It's very confusing (ther than mailing your phone to someone with a java card, and it's bad enough i'm having to live without a phone, i can mail it to someone and wait for it to come back)
But since all i want is tethering I'm wondering if i even have to bother. Does anyone know if any of the no-root tether apps work on this phone?

mordikar said:
Hi folks.
So i'm looking at having to replace my DNA. I usually root all my phones but honestly the only reason i do is because i have an unlimited data plan still and i want wifi tethering without being robbed. Unlimited in my opinion means unlimited, VZW can go do horribly inappropriate things to themselves regarding their definition of unlimited.
From what I have read i'm not certain if you can even get the boot loader unlocked, get s-off and root on the VZW m9. It's very confusing (ther than mailing your phone to someone with a java card, and it's bad enough i'm having to live without a phone, i can mail it to someone and wait for it to come back)
But since all i want is tethering I'm wondering if i even have to bother. Does anyone know if any of the no-root tether apps work on this phone?
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Use FoxFi

Thanks,
I was just curious I know at one point VZW updated phones so foxfi didn't work. Nice to know it's an option again.

If you don't need wifi tether, there is also clockwork tether wish doesn't require root.

I tried using Fox Fi....no such luck.

I ended up ditching VZW and grabbing a developer edition from HTC.

mordikar said:
I ended up ditching VZW and grabbing a developer edition from HTC.
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Are you still with Verizon as your carrier? I didn't think they allowed phones not branded VZW on their network...

Tether
If you REALLY want tether,download and install the Fluent custom rom located in Android Development here.
It's tether works perfectly and it's a smooth running rom as well.

michaelbsheldon said:
If you REALLY want tether,download and install the Fluent custom rom located in Android Development here.
It's tether works perfectly and it's a smooth running rom as well.
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Don't you have to be rooted to do this?
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drewcam888 said:
Use FoxFi
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FoxFi and PdaNet+ need root for wifi tether. They are fine if you only need USB or bluetooth tether.

CJO said:
Don't you have to be rooted to do this?
Yes, you must be either: S-OFF, Rooted or Bootloader unlocked and with a custom recovery.
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