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Just rooted but went from 2.2 to 2.1

I just did the root, nand, and radio
However I didn't know that I was going back to 2.1
What are the cons of 2.1 vs 2.2 and how long usually before there is an updated rooted 2.2?
Thanks

2.2 is out officially??? Where/how can I/we get it?

It just automatically downloaded when I got my phone yesterday. Now I'm wondering if I should go back and update and wait then re root later or just wait.

Are you sure you had 2.2? Where did you get your phone? What is your hardware version?

Positive I had it. I got it at walmart yesterday. As soon as I activated it downloaded like three updates.
I was using flash etc.

kikwear002 said:
Positive I had it. I got it at walmart yesterday. As soon as I activated it downloaded like three updates.
I was using flash etc.
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Flash lite?

Flash works with 2.1 also (at least on the evo)

I'm not really sure. I just know it said 2.2 and not 2.1.
also my hardware is 2.2
I wish I would've known I would've backed up before rooting. I didn't see any reason since the phone was new with nothing on it.
I just checked and it said no updates available.
So in order to go back to stock all I have to do is reflash with the stock rom. Just throw it on sd and flash as normal?

kikwear002 said:
I'm not really sure. I just know it said 2.2 and not 2.1.
also my hardware is 2.2
I wish I would've known I would've backed up before rooting. I didn't see any reason since the phone was new with nothing on it.
I just checked and it said no updates available.
So in order to go back to stock all I have to do is reflash with the stock rom. Just throw it on sd and flash as normal?
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Just flash RUU from your computer.
Settings > About > Hardware, your Hardware Version is 2.2, NOT 002 or 003?

no its 002 sorry running on two hours of sleep here.
Ok i'm going to try to go back to stock then upgrade.
at least I know I can root it again. maybe faster next time too.

well I unrooted and got some prl updates but no firmware

here goes
Take the battery out of the for about 5 sec then put the battery back in and go in to recovery and try reflashing the rom that work for me

One of three things happened..
You are either have a nexus one and are in the wrong forum..
Are mistaken that you had 2.2 prior to root..
Or you're just trying to mess with everyone..
2.2 is not out in any way officially on any HTC phone, so you couldn't have had it. And no, you couldn't have been the only person in the country to have accidentally gotten it somehow.

HTC Desire on Orange - Debranding?!

Hi
Apologies for this post if it's been done many times before but I've been digging around now for hours and keep finding conflicting advice on problems I will run into so I just need someone to clarify if it's possible and what I need to do to ensure I don't loose wifi access or brick my phone or anything like that....
I bought a HTC Desire locked to Orange (UK) yesterday and I would like to get it unlocked and debranded. The unlocking part should not be a prob as I'll just buy a code from somewhere (or thats the hope anyhow) but when it comes to reflashing to debrand I keep coming across posts about wifi issues or OTA updates making progs force close, thus the Desire becoming unstable.
All I want to know is..... How do I get rid of all the Orange crap and go to a generic HTC Desire ROM so it would be like I bought a retail Desire? Is this possible without messing up my phone?? I'm currently on 02 (UK) but also bought an Orange PAYG sim just incase things get overly complicated. I would like to stick with my 02 sim but don't want to run into any probs with my phone, and if needs be I could switch over to Orange but that would be my last resort. I would also like to get rid of the Orange flash screen and the Orange apps that came preinstalled on my phone. Some posts say it's possible, some posts say I will have issues with the radio version, some posts say I will loose wifi and the Desire will turn unstable (lots of force closed prompts). If I did manage to go back to the retail Desire ROM, would I then run into probs with OTA updates?
Sorry if this question is proper nooby, but in truth that's exactly what I am and I'm getting totally lost!! After hours of digging I thought I'd just post this up and see if someone can clarify the situation before I dig in and start flashing. Better to be safe than sorry and all that.
Any help would be appreciated!!

With an orange branded desire, you'll definitely have to unlock it - i did with mine, although i discovered that after i'd flashed it
the only think i would advise you to do is to read up on the various rom threads - the first couple of posts in each thread will tell you what each rom does and will invariably give you a couple of screenshots as well.
that way you can decide which one you want in the firsts instance. then i'd skip to the end of the thread and read back a few pages from that point, so you'll get an idea of what problems (if any) people are still having.
it really comes down to personal preference and taking a chance - most, if not all of the roms on here are working and stable and won't really give you many problems.

Yea its an eyesore to say the least is that filthy orange branding
get it debranded first using a goldcard and flashed with rooted generic rom
then purchase sim unlock code to use your o2.
then update and mod to your hearts "desire"

Firstly, thanks for your quick replies! I had a feeling this was going to be a bit of a mission!!
Ok, so say I've unlocked and unbranded my phone. What happens with OTA updates from there on in? Is it just a case of doing them manually and switching off auto OTA? I read somewhere that by flashing with a rooted ROM it will block OTA from updating to prevent the phone getting locked or becoming unstable, is that right?
Also, this may be a stupid question but if it's flashed to a generic HTC ROM then where does it contact for the updates? I was figuring as soon as I'd gotten rid of the Orange fw that it would no longer be looking for the Orange'd ROM update but after reading this doesn't seem to be the case?
Please forgive me if I'm being ignorant, I've gone from a Nokia 1600 (lol) to a HTC Desire and trying to get my head around it all!!

I would like to know too, I have just bought a Orange branded desire.
1. Do I unlock the phone 1st, ie. get an unlock code from orange.
2. do I then flash the generic firmware.
3. Is the sim lock stored in the radio part of the firmware?
I have unbranded/unlocked nokia n80`s and htc tync`s in the past, but I need to swat up on this linux stuff.
Any usefull advice welcomed, in the mean while I`ll keep reading

The OTA updates will become completely unecessary because you'll be using a custom rom - the developer of that rom will be the one releasing the updates, so all you'll have to do is to re-flash each updated version.
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I would like to know too, I have just bought a Orange branded desire.
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Well what I did was to root the phone first, then flash the radio and then a rom. the new radio is what caused the simlock, so it was at that point i had to buy an unlock code. all works completely fine now.

hankhandsome said:
The OTA updates will become completely unecessary because you'll be using a custom rom - the developer of that rom will be the one releasing the updates, so all you'll have to do is to re-flash each updated version.
Well what I did was to root the phone first, then flash the radio and then a rom. the new radio is what caused the simlock, so it was at that point i had to buy an unlock code. all works completely fine now.
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So can the simlock be removed by flashing a simfree radio rom??? I`m pretty sure this is what i did on an old tync to remove simlock.....but this was some time ago
you say the radio Rom you flashed caused the simlock, did you not have to supply the network provider as well as the IMIE to get the unlock code? or was this a generic Radio rom?

My wife has just got a htc desire HD on 3 and that is branded.
I have got a Samsung Galaxy S and i have unbranded that down loading a Manufacture Rom and that updates as normal.
Is there some software like odin for the Htc and were like samfirmware.com can i down load a Manufactures rom.
she went for this phone cos of the spec and she does not like my Samsung i was hoping the Htc community would be the same it is so easy to do and Samsung service centres checked my firmware and it was fine.
Most people just want there phone as Htc intended it to be

HTC finally launched their Gingerbread update (2.3.3) for Desire. I am using a Desire (telstra locked Android 2.1), downloaded the new update from the official website HTC website and now i have a completely unbranded HTC Desire with 2.3.3... NO GOLDCARD OR ROOT REQUIRED.

[Q] Orange UK Branded Desire wants FroYo!

Hi Everyone,
I would be very grateful for a little help.
I have an Orange UK branded desire. Like everyone else the Orange branding really annoyed me so I have followed the guide to create a goldcard and have rooted and flashed a stock HTC rom. (so I'm currently using 1.15.405.4)
This is as far as I got before I left it.
So, am I right in thinking that to now get a rooted version of FroYo onto my desire all I need to do is;
1. Update the radio to the latest one, which will lock me out of my phone regardless of what network I'm on
2. Purchase an unlock code to get me back into my phone.
3. Use an application like ROM Manager to flash a FroYo rom onto my phone. (will I need to use my goldcard if I used ROM Manager?)
Is there anything else I should be aware of? I have been reading around and it seems fairly straight forward but I believe there are some issues with de-branded Orange phones.
Apologies if this has already been covered in another thread, but I'm really new to all this and to say I'm a little worried that I'm going to brick my desire is a major understatement!
Thanks again for any help!

Yep you pretty much have it spot on! Although it sounds like you haven't rooted yet. You will need to do this in order to flash a rooted ROM!
You can use Unrevoked 3 to root your phone, really easy with a couple of clicks.
Although I have personally used an unlock code my friend with an Orange Branded desire didn't get locked out when he used the latest radio, so looks like you may be in luck! Probably worth trying before you purchase a code

magicwaz said:
Hi Everyone,
I would be very grateful for a little help.
I have an Orange UK branded desire. Like everyone else the Orange branding really annoyed me so I have followed the guide to create a goldcard and have rooted and flashed a stock HTC rom. (so I'm currently using 1.15.405.4)
This is as far as I got before I left it.
So, am I right in thinking that to now get a rooted version of FroYo onto my desire all I need to do is;
1. Update the radio to the latest one, which will lock me out of my phone regardless of what network I'm on
2. Purchase an unlock code to get me back into my phone.
3. Use an application like ROM Manager to flash a FroYo rom onto my phone. (will I need to use my goldcard if I used ROM Manager?)
Is there anything else I should be aware of? I have been reading around and it seems fairly straight forward but I believe there are some issues with de-branded Orange phones.
Apologies if this has already been covered in another thread, but I'm really new to all this and to say I'm a little worried that I'm going to brick my desire is a major understatement!
Thanks again for any help!
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Hello there,
I am not sure that debranding was necessary, you could have rooted the phone using unrevoked, then just flash a rooted official froyo. And if you had unlocked your phone first, then you could have also flahed the latest radio rom.
I would say unlock your phone first, root it, then flash the latest radio, then flash a rooted froyo rom of your choice.

Thanks for the really fast responses.
I thought I had already rooted it? How would I tell if its rooted? I've already installed the ROM Manager app and Titanium Backup which say that they need root to work. Titanium Backup also says "Root access=> OK (BusyBox 1.16.0 from app)"

your defo rooted if the app says that
Strange people should say your not rooted, you can get rooted stock roms after all thats what I did. I'm on tmo and I flashed back the same firmware before flashing froyo no sim lock when I finally got to froyo cause I had trouble flashing recovery.
I have read some stuff on orange sim locking, try looking at the unlockr wbsit I think there is a tutorial there that mentions what to do when this happens.
Best thing to do tho is go to the Macardo android website (hxxp://android.modaco.com) they are really helpful there you'll get instant replies worth listening too, anyone worth listening too on here is far too busy

If you flash the latest radio you will not get simlocked (@satnile)

Just wanted to say thank you for all your help, I done it! I am now using FroYo on my (previously orange branded) Desire. Its awesome!
Also thanks for letting me know that I didn't have to buy an unlock code. Saved me few quid!
I don't think I want to be messing around with my phone like this again... well... maybe until the next major update
Thanks again!

But you just forgot to mention which method you've used.

That would probably help!
I had already followed the instructions on how to root a branded desire and install a stock htc rom that is posted on these forums.
This left me with a rooted, debranded desire. I lost all my contacts in the process, but thankfully I had synchronised it with HTC Sync a little while ago, so I was able to retrieve my contacts from that. Also having the desire set to automatically back-up things in its own settings, helped get back my text messages and saved wifi/bluetooth connections.
I then found the ROM I wanted to install. I just wanted the stock FroYo ROM. I picked one that was already rooted and did not update the hboot as I read there were issues if it did update it.
I followed instructions, also on these forums, on how to install the latest radio. I wasn't sure if I should have done this with my goldcard in the phone, but I used it anyway! That went fine and I was also not sim locked out, which saved me some money.
I copied the FroYo ROM I wanted onto my normal micro-SD card (not my goldcard), then used ROM Manager (downloadable via marketplace) to install the ROM. I was expecting it to take some time to install (10min+), but its pretty quick. The phone took a bit longer to boot up after the update.
Thankfully everything went well and I didn't even lose anything on the phone! Nothing was affected. I had all my apps, contacts, settings, background, ringtones, widgets etc... all set as normal. I was expecting them to be all wiped so I had backed up everything using Titanium Backup.
I hope that helps anyone who is about to void their warranty!
Any questions, just ask and I'll do my best to answer them. I'm definitely no expert, so all I can really talk about is what I did. I'm sure people will say there was an easier way to do it, but this is how I understood the process from the many guides out there.

[Q] Official Verizon HTC incredible Froyo Update (Coming tomorrow)

Engadget states that Verizon is going to push the official 2.2 Froyo update tomorrow for all HTC incredible users.
IF this is true I have a few questions. I'm currently rooted and running Sky Raider 3.0 RC2. I did a nand backup of my old original 2.1 Stock sense rom. If i revert back to that, can I just check for updates and apply the new stock 2.2 Froyo rom that is pushed from verizon?
Thanks,
ej_424

It is true. Unlike previous rumors, VZW employees were told today (this afternoon) and it shows on their bulletin screens now.

That and sometime between 1pm and 2:30pm they updated the support page.
So who's gonna jump in and who's gonna wait?

Please answer my question on how to go about updating. I'll jump in but want to knwo what process i have to take. Is there a chance that I wont be able to re-root if i go with the OTA update?

why go through the trouble of unrooting and going back to stock just to receive an update "officially" thats already been rooted and simplified here in 2 threads?

mb02 said:
why go through the trouble of unrooting and going back to stock just to receive an update "officially" thats already been rooted and simplified here in 2 threads?
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Honestly.. It's pre-rooted, and is almost positively the exact same as the official OTA.. why bother?

ej_424 said:
Please answer my question on how to go about updating. I'll jump in but want to knwo what process i have to take. Is there a chance that I wont be able to re-root if i go with the OTA update?
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Honestly there is so much information out there. Do what I did when I first got my Incredible. Do a search, and read, read, read. Mind you when you're done your head is going to be spinning. But that is the best way to get all the information you need.

To answer your question.
it was said along time ago that accepting the 2.2 OTA may cause you to not be able to re-root.
now, unrevoked forever takes S-OFF and with this you can accept the 2.2 OTA and still keep root, it was permanent, but with the new release of S-ON there is absolutely no reason not to use S-OFF, then un-root, if you want the "official" 2.2.

I thought that SkyRaider 2.5.2 and 3.0 were built off of the previous leak of FroYo 2.2...am I wrong? I love SkyRaider Vanilla, so I don't get giving that up for an "official" OTA? Maybe it is for some, but I don't see what else you'd really get that you don't have yet that was built into the 2.2 ROM's...

Mods will probably move this to Q and A,
But, you have to provide more info as what radio you are on, hboot.., etc. There are several threads started providing info as to how to prepare yourself...
I mean, the leak OTA has been ripped apart and placed all of this forum. The only thing you can get from verizon will be the satisfaction of a cool Blockbuster app and more vzw crapware, but hey if its what you want

RMarkwald said:
I thought that SkyRaider 2.5.2 and 3.0 were built off of the previous leak of FroYo 2.2...am I wrong? I love SkyRaider Vanilla, so I don't get giving that up for an "official" OTA? Maybe it is for some, but I don't see what else you'd really get that you don't have yet that was built into the 2.2 ROM's...
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Skyraider pre2.0 was based off an evo port, yes. 2.0 and onward is based off the leak, hence the necessity of the radio upgrade.

Gotcha. That's what I thought, as when I installed SkyRaider 2.2, I remember getting an email saying "thanks for registering your Nexus One" or something like that... Thank you for confirming, much appreciated!

Your recovery image must be stock as well. There are several threads that provide the needed file to return the DInc back to 100% stock/pre-root (just make sure S-OFF is applied first).

Mandatory OTA?
I read the pdf files from Verizon's website on the expected 2.2 OTA, and it says it is MANDATORY. That the only options it gives you are install and DELAY install. That it will keep bugging you every 30 minutes til you do !
I have used Unrevoked3, and Unrevoked Forever and love the phone as it is now (particularly the wifi tether). I want to avoid the OTA but do I HAVE to accept it? If I do, I hope I can reload the version I got with Unrevoked3.
(I assume that Verizon will, in their new version make you PAY to wifi tether)
Any info on this?
Thanks

charlier26 said:
I read the pdf files from Verizon's website on the expected 2.2 OTA, and it says it is MANDATORY. That the only options it gives you are install and DELAY install. That it will keep bugging you every 30 minutes til you do !
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I'll be pissed if thats the case. gotta do everything all over again. But if we're already @ 2.2 shouldn't it recognize that and not force the OTA to even appear on our phones?
I'm still pretty new to this so sorry if I sound like a complete outsider lol

For those of us who've rooted, forever'd, upgraded radio, and installed some leaked version of Froyo already -- if/when we get prompted to update the phone should we accept or deny it?
With the OTA update will be a radio update as well. And if they attempt to install over the same version won't that be the same as manually attempting to update it twice which equals brick?
Or will the update detect an upgraded radio already and skip that step?

Hackenstein said:
For those of us who've rooted, forever'd, upgraded radio, and installed some leaked version of Froyo already -- if/when we get prompted to update the phone should we accept or deny it?
With the OTA update will be a radio update as well. And if they attempt to install over the same version won't that be the same as manually attempting to update it twice which equals brick?
Or will the update detect an upgraded radio already and skip that step?
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IIRC, you will only be prompted if you have sock recovery installed. As for the OTA, it includes updates to the radio and HBOOT. The update doesn't check to see if you already have an upgraded radio because, in theory, no consumer should have it yet.

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The update doesn't check to see if you already have an upgraded radio because, in theory, no consumer should have it yet.
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If this is the case, there will be a whole lot of bricks out there, right? I thought I read that if you flash a radio twice you're bricked. Maybe not with S_Off.

PIYIRIO said:
If this is the case, there will be a whole lot of bricks out there, right? I thought I read that if you flash a radio twice you're bricked. Maybe not with S_Off.
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Not a 100% sure but I think its only if you flash a radio.diff twice you get brick.
Never the less just don't have the updated radio with old builds and stock recovery and all should be fine.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Nope
PIYIRIO said:
If this is the case, there will be a whole lot of bricks out there, right? I thought I read that if you flash a radio twice you're bricked. Maybe not with S_Off.
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That applied because the prior unrEVOked hack was simply a diff ... it patched. So if you apply the patch to the patch, THEN you brick. Flashing a wholesale radio (while higher on the danger scale) is not the same.

T-Mobile's botched Froyo update...

Ok - as some people will know, TMob pushed the OTA in September.
Initially things seemed ok, but people spotted those pesky german apps that came down as well, so alarm bells started ringing.
For me anyway, the Market doesn't work as it should either - there are quite a few apps I've paid for which now don't show up on the market.
Also (and I'm not sure if this was OTA related) my gmail contacts went to crap, so I ended up doing a factory reset.
I think there may be other foibles that have come over by having the german version installed - never mind the space taken up by those useless apps.
So, the question I have is this - what have people managed to do about it, other than doing the usual debrand, or root solutions.
Has anyone contacted T Mobile yet to see what they have to say about it?
It's a real pain in the ass. I should probably debrand and be done with it, but I don't really want to lose my warranty, just in case...

man debrand and root, install a pre-rooted 2.10 add a2sd+ and UVOC v3 kernel and you won't look behind

I use, a lot, the wifi hotspot, and usb tether option.
2.1 doesn't have these does it?

i meant the official HTC WWE firmware numbered 2.10, its the second and latest WWE stock froyo release (the first was 2.09)
i had t-mobile desire myself and i've debranded it, just make sure you always have a goldcard when you debrand and update

hamdir - where can I get this?
Shipped Roms doesn't appear to list it...

Yes they do...
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
You'll need a gold card to flash it, though

Ok - not sure how I missed that then.
I had actually started prepping my phone for doing a debrand, so my sim is already goldcarded I think. (ie I used the goldcard utility etc, and the program said it had created.) That said though, I didn't format the card first before going through the routine of creating the goldcard - should I have done?
I figured the card is already formatted, as it's an 8gb card - ie not a stock microsd, so in order to use it initially, I would have had to have formatted it anyway.
How do I get the kernel and radio then?
Are they part of the Rom you've posted?

So, will I have problems with this goldcard?