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[Q] IM a noob that Needs help rooting my new evo!

Hey guys well i crashed the software on my old evo due to rooting lol. IM getting a new one shortly. What Im asking is a REALLY GOOD step by step guide, with the links to download the right files, to root the 2.2 stock froyo it comes with BUT ALSO nand-unlocking it while im rooting it. The reason im asking for this was I had a hard time flashing cyanogen mod 6 after i used the root method from djr3Z from the droid demos website (It was downgrading the stock 2.2 to stock 2.1, rooting 2.1 and then finally going to a rooted 2.2 with Amon Ra recovery) Please help me! Im a noob and i would really appreciate it. Thx in advance!

Nand wasn't unlocked fully with the method you used. Many people had that issue. You can either unlock nand and be done, or wait a few days for the latest unrevoked to come out.
Here is how to unlock nand :
http://theunlockr.com/2010/07/20/how-to-unlock-nand-on-the-htc-evo-4g/
Unrevoked if you wait :
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3
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sgallos1 said:
Hey guys well i crashed the software on my old evo due to rooting lol. IM getting a new one shortly. What Im asking is a REALLY GOOD step by step guide, with the links to download the right files, to root the 2.2 stock froyo it comes with BUT ALSO nand-unlocking it while im rooting it. The reason im asking for this was I had a hard time flashing cyanogen mod 6 after i used the root method from djr3Z from the droid demos website (It was downgrading the stock 2.2 to stock 2.1, rooting 2.1 and then finally going to a rooted 2.2 with Amon Ra recovery) Please help me! Im a noob and i would really appreciate it. Thx in advance!
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If you followed regaw's complete tutorial, including unrevoked-forever, you unlocked your nand and have the ability to flash custom roms. I know because I did it and am currently running Fresh 3.2. I also made nandroid backups and boot between them.
You can't jump right in to Cyanogen because you're on the wrong hboot. Cyanogen requires hboot 76, and you're probably on 93 or similar from regaw's method. Boot phone holding volume down and check it out.
I can't post links, but you can search the forums for "ENG hboot 76" and probably get the right post on how to get hboot back. Also, I believe it may be easier to find the link in the actual Cyanogen forums.
Keep in mind this downgrades your PRI to 1.3 instead of 1.40. Find the fix for that in a different thread.
Good luck.

thom_house said:
Nand wasn't unlocked fully with the method you used. Many people had that issue. You can either unlock nand and be done, or wait a few days for the latest unrevoked to come out.
Here is how to unlock nand :
http://theunlockr.com/2010/07/20/how-to-unlock-nand-on-the-htc-evo-4g/
Unrevoked if you wait :
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3
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Ok thx for that. The only question is when i get my evo and its on stock 2.2 should i do the nand-unlock, will that also root the phone in the process?

By the time you get your phone unrevoked will be out, with unrevoked, you just do a couple of mouse clicks and your done.
Also, unlocking nand is different than rooting. You must be rooted first in order to unlock nand. Just wait for your phone first, unrevoked will make it easy and painless for you.
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Unrevoked all the way
sgallos1 said:
Ok thx for that. The only question is when i get my evo and its on stock 2.2 should i do the nand-unlock, will that also root the phone in the process?
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Unrevoked is a great tool that truly makes it easy. When i rooted without it, I lost everything. But unrevoked doesn't delete anything at all. Will the new one unlock and or will you still need forever and .76 boot img?

dkdude36 said:
Unrevoked is a great tool that truly makes it easy. When i rooted without it, I lost everything. But unrevoked doesn't delete anything at all. Will the new one unlock and or will you still need forever and .76 boot img?
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Not sure, still no details on their site. I recommend getting the .76 hboot because roms like cyanogenmod wont flash on other versions.
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yea i got my evo back that i broke. They fixed it and brought it back to 2.1. I turned it off to charge it. Whne it was done and i turned it on instead of it booting up the sprint music with the 4g symbol, it went into htc with the cursive letters popping up quietly brilliant. Anyone has had this issue? I mean after that it goes smooth im on the interface and all goes well any advice?

sgallos1 said:
yea i got my evo back that i broke. They fixed it and brought it back to 2.1. I turned it off to charge it. Whne it was done and i turned it on instead of it booting up the sprint music with the 4g symbol, it went into htc with the cursive letters popping up quietly brilliant. Anyone has had this issue? I mean after that it goes smooth im on the interface and all goes well any advice?
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Sounds like you have the oldest version of 2.1 like they did a factory reset. No issue. Your phone is primed and ready for rooting. If you are going to run CM6, then I would suggest using Toast's method to root and nand unlock. This will give you the necessary eng hboot 0.76.2000 to run that ROM. Although you may want to do search through the forums for a means of unlocking nand without downgrading your PRI to 1.34_003 (current is 1.40_003). The eng-PC36IMG.zip in Toast's part 2 "How to unlock nand" will downgrade your PRI.
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I replied to your pm...
sgallos1 said:
yea i got my evo back that i broke. They fixed it and brought it back to 2.1. I turned it off to charge it. Whne it was done and i turned it on instead of it booting up the sprint music with the 4g symbol, it went into htc with the cursive letters popping up quietly brilliant. Anyone has had this issue? I mean after that it goes smooth im on the interface and all goes well any advice?
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You are ready to rock n roll now.
First Step - Root
http://theunlockr.com/2010/07/20/how-to-root-the-htc-evo-4g-unrevoked-method/
Second Step - Unlock Nand with Toastcfh .76 Eng Bootloader
http://theunlockr.com/2010/07/20/how-to-unlock-nand-on-the-htc-evo-4g/
Third Step - Get ROM Manager
Go to the android market and download ROM Manager. Once installed, open the app and have it flash a custom recovery for you, either clockworkmod or RA.
Have Fun.

[Q] Unrevoked for Evo question

I have rooted my Hero before using some of the older methods, but will be purchasing an Evo in a couple of weeks and was just looking for a very simple explanation of the difference between unrevoked 3 and unrevoked forever. Can anyone help answer that without starting another thread on the process of actually performing the root? I certainly do not want to create a duplicate thread. Thanks.

I just asked the same question yesterday. I read the entire unrevoked site, and searched like mad for at least an hour. From what i understand unrevoked used to just be a temporary unlock, in that S stayed ON, and you could lose root pretty easily, but unrevoked forever turned S off, so that your nand unlock remained regardless of what you flashed.
From what I understand though, with the latest unrevoked 3 (3.21), they basically do the exact same thing, but unrevoked forever is still useful for people that applied unrevoked, prior to the latest build, and now want a full nand unlock.
At least thats what I took from it.

ssolomon said:
I have rooted my Hero before using some of the older methods, but will be purchasing an Evo in a couple of weeks and was just looking for a very simple explanation of the difference between unrevoked 3 and unrevoked forever. Can anyone help answer that without starting another thread on the process of actually performing the root? I certainly do not want to create a duplicate thread. Thanks.
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Unrevoked 3 - Installs Super User and Clockwork and unlocks NAND
Unrevoked Forever - Turns S-OFF permanently unlocking NAND even if an official update removes clockwork and superuser NAND remains unlocked so you can just re flash them.
The latest version of Unrevoked 3 ver 3.2 and 3.21 both have Unrevoked Forever included to choose as an option. So just get Unrevoked 3 ver 3.21 and it includes them both in one easy install.

tws101 said:
Unrevoked 3 - Installs Super User and Clockwork and unlocks NAND
Unrevoked Forever - Turns S-OFF permanently unlocking NAND even if an official update removes clockwork and superuser NAND remains unlocked so you can just re flash them.
The latest version of Unrevoked 3 ver 3.2 and 3.21 both have Unrevoked Forever included to choose as an option. So just get Unrevoked 3 ver 3.21 and it includes them both in one easy install.
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In recovery, it shows s-off...I ran 3.21, does this mean my nand is permanently unlocked? Is that the default option with 3.21, I basically just ran it right "out of the box".
I think the unrevoked crew could do a better job of explaining this on the website. But don't take that the wrong way, they really don't owe anyone anything,we owe them and should be thankful for what we got, just a suggestion though.

Any updates regarding a new version of Unrevoked?

Title pretty much says it...was wondering if there are any updates as to when those of us with new(er) Evos can expect the new version of Unrevoked that will work on our phones
Thanks in advance

PCap79 said:
Title pretty much says it...was wondering if there are any updates as to when those of us with new(er) Evos can expect the new version of Unrevoked that will work on our phones
Thanks in advance
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I saw a thread from joshua at unrevoked. They updated the unrevokedforever.zip file to include the newest radio version and said they are actively working on getting a new version of unrevoked in place that will work with the newest phones. I imagine it will take a little while as the newer phones have different data partitions than the older ones so they need to figure out some very complex methods to create a one click root this time.
If you feel the need to root now there is a thread with instructions on how to do it manually in this forum.

leenypost said:
I saw a thread from joshua at unrevoked. They updated the unrevokedforever.zip file to include the newest radio version and said they are actively working on getting a new version of unrevoked in place that will work with the newest phones. I imagine it will take a little while as the newer phones have different data partitions than the older ones so they need to figure out some very complex methods to create a one click root this time.
If you feel the need to root now there is a thread with instructions on how to do it manually in this forum.
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Thanks for the info. Dumb question...but...what's the difference between unrevoked forever and unrevoked?

PCap79 said:
Thanks for the info. Dumb question...but...what's the difference between unrevoked forever and unrevoked?
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unrevoked forever is just a zip file you flash with a custom recovery installed that sets your phone to s-off....
unrevoked is a one step process that you use as an executable file that flashes the zip as well as giving you a custom recovery and adds superuser to your phone achieving full root.

well according to their twitter, it seems they are done with the evo 3.70 ota support, but their release may be delayed because of weather.
twitter.com/unrevoked

leenypost said:
unrevoked forever is just a zip file you flash with a custom recovery installed that sets your phone to s-off....
unrevoked is a one step process that you use as an executable file that flashes the zip as well as giving you a custom recovery and adds superuser to your phone achieving full root.
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Ahhhh ok....thanks for clearing that up. So Unrevoked Forever is only good on a phone thats already rooted...so I'd need to root my phone with unrevoked first(whenever the new version is out) and then run unrevoked forever to keep any new OTAs from unrooting my phone.
I'm a LONG time blackberry user so all this is new to me...that's why I'm patiently waiting for the new unrevoked rather than going through the multi-step process

evoftw said:
well according to their twitter, it seems they are done with the evo 3.70 ota support, but their release may be delayed because of weather.
twitter.com/unrevoked
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That's awesome news! I've been holding off on updating from to 3.7 OTA because there wasn't even a version of Unrevoked that works on my current 3.3 software. I didn't want to have to wait even longer for Unrevoked 3.7...But it looks like they killed 2 birds w/ 1 stone

The one click unrevoked method will automatically run and install unrevoked forever. But there are times when people have noticed it fails to install successfully but are still rooted. So at that point, you can just download and flash unrevoked forever yourself to get S-OFF.

ICEReaction said:
The one click unrevoked method will automatically run and install unrevoked forever. But there are times when people have noticed it fails to install successfully but are still rooted. So at that point, you can just download and flash unrevoked forever yourself to get S-OFF.
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Ohhh ok...thank you for clearing that up

evoftw said:
well according to their twitter, it seems they are done with the evo 3.70 ota support, but their release may be delayed because of weather.
twitter.com/unrevoked
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that "weather" looks like skiing weather....
and who could turn down some fresh powder when it is staring you in the face ?

Any word?????
Has anybody seen or downloaded unrevoked 3.7 yet??? I deperately need it. Thanks

PCap79 said:
That's awesome news! I've been holding off on updating from to 3.7 OTA because there wasn't even a version of Unrevoked that works on my current 3.3 software. I didn't want to have to wait even longer for Unrevoked 3.7...But it looks like they killed 2 birds w/ 1 stone
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You shouldn't update ever. You're basically unrooting yourself then rooting again. It might be easier to just flash the new things that come with 3.7/whatever new OTA comes out in the future

Need unrevoked bacd stock phone sucks!!!
has anyone heard anything about the new unrevoked i have had my evo rooted for 6 monthes and i droped and broke it. got a new one and it can with 3.70 on it im not real sure about manually doing it. any news or help would be great thanks

Need unrevoked patch stock phone sucks!!!!
i have had a rooted evo for 6 monthes and broke it had to get a new one and it came with 3.70 update on it. im not real sure about manual root so any news or help would be great thanks

is manual easy to do i have read about it and it sounds complicated

I have done the manual version 5 times on friends phones and such. No issues at all...just make sure you read everything and you will be fine
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Ok, here my Issue i have a EVO that never connected on the 4G network, the Tech said if the phone is rooted that caused to not connect 4G, so I finally took it to the store and got a new one last night does anyone knows which process to follow that wont jack my RSA or MAC Address on my EVO? or can I just use unrevoked to root my phone?

If you just got a new one you probably have hboot 2.02 or 2.10.
I have 2.10 so I used this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
I was worry about doing it @ first but if you follow the very detailed instructions you should be fine. Plus my 4g is not broke. Read everything first, even the detailed FAQ the OP included. I just couldn't wait for new unrevoked myself

According to the their Twitter account, a beta version of the new unrevoked is expected "tomorrow-ish." Since it looks like the new Unevoked will be available in the near future I'm just going to keep waiting for it rather than messing with the manual version.
www.twitter.com/unrevoked
(you don't need a twitter account to check their status updates)

sknnypete said:
Ok, here my Issue i have a EVO that never connected on the 4G network, the Tech said if the phone is rooted that caused to not connect 4G, so I finally took it to the store and got a new one last night does anyone knows which process to follow that wont jack my RSA or MAC Address on my EVO? or can I just use unrevoked to root my phone?
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That sprint rep has no clue what he is talking about. I rooted,still have 4g
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[Q] Just a question or two before I root

I am new to rooting a phone and have read count less threads on this site. First I have to say that this is one of the best forums I have come across. My first question I have decided to use the Universal Auto Root method found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
First I want to stay with the Stock Evo Rom for now, not the Sprint Lovers Rom. Is there a way to not flash that rom using UAR or can I just Flash the Stock rom back after I have rooted the phone. If I have to flash the stock rom back then can someone point me in the right direction for a tutorial with the stock rom. I have modded other things besides phones and have no problem reading to find the answers. Most people that have problems just say "Oh I will root my phone today" and do not do the research before hand and in up with a paper weight. I have been read for about a week now and am just now getting to where I understand parts of the process.

Smurph82 said:
I am new to rooting a phone and have read count less threads on this site. First I have to say that this is one of the best forums I have come across. My first question I have decided to use the Universal Auto Root method found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
First I want to stay with the Stock Evo Rom for now, not the Sprint Lovers Rom. Is there a way to not flash that rom using UAR or can I just Flash the Stock rom back after I have rooted the phone. If I have to flash the stock rom back then can someone point me in the right direction for a tutorial with the stock rom. I have modded other things besides phones and have no problem reading to find the answers. Most people that have problems just say "Oh I will root my phone today" and do not do the research before hand and in up with a paper weight. I have been read for about a week now and am just now getting to where I understand parts of the process.
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I'm not familiar with that root method, so I'm not sure if there's a way to bypass the flashing of SpringtLovers, although I'd assume there is a way. Any time I've ever used Unrevoked to root, it never touched the ROM. After using Unrevoked, all the apps I previously had are still there and its on the same ROM. The only differences are that the bootloader will be S-off, you'll have clockwork recovery flashed, and you'll have the Super User app. With all that said, Sprint Lovers is about the exact same thing as stock, as far as I can tell. I flashed it on my girl's phone, because she liked her stock rom. The only differences are I noticed are very subtle, such as the battery indicator having the % value in it, the wireless tether app being added, and I believe it's deodexed. (and probably a few other things, maybe some optimizations and stuff) But as far as looks, it's identical to a stock ROM.

k2buckley said:
I'm not familiar with that root method, so I'm not sure if there's a way to bypass the flashing of Spring Lovers, although I'd assume there is a way. Any time I've ever used Unrevoked to root, it never touched the ROM. After using Unrevoked, all the apps I previously had are still there and its on the same ROM. The only differences are that the bootloader will be S-off, you'll have clockwork recovery flashed, and you'll have the Super User app. With all that said, Sprint Lovers is about the exact same thing as stock, as far as I can tell. I flashed it on my girl's phone, because she liked her stock rom. The only differences are I noticed are very subtle, such as the battery indicator having the % value in it, the wireless tether app being added, and I believe it's deodexed. (and probably a few other things, maybe some optimizations and stuff) But as far as looks, it's identical to a stock ROM.
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You're correct, the only thing unrevoked does is root your phone and roots your current rom, in this case, stock with root access. So OP, I think you may want to use unrevoked for this case.

I have read that Amon Ra is better than clockwork recovery that was the main reason I was thinking of the UAR. Weird thing is that my system just finished a virus scan and it said that the UAR had something called Lotoor in it. Now I don't that I will download it. Is there a way to use unrevoked and then put Amon Ra on it. Better yet I have read that the Toast method is good but I have not found it in a tutorial. Is there one available. If I use unrevoked then how do you get clockwork removed and install Amon Ra.

Smurph82 said:
I have read that Amon Ra is better than clockwork recovery that was the main reason I was thinking of the UAR. Weird thing is that my system just finished a virus scan and it said that the UAR had something called Lotoor in it. Now I don't that I will download it. Is there a way to use unrevoked and then put Amon Ra on it. Better yet I have read that the Toast method is good but I have not found it in a tutorial. Is there one available. If I use unrevoked then how do you get clockwork removed and install Amon Ra.
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Flash the file attached in the bootloader. Apply update, reboot, and then reboot back into recovery and you'll be on amon_ra 2.3. The amon_ra recovery is inside it, no needc to rename or extract the file.

teh roxxorz said:
Flash the file attached in the bootloader. Apply update, reboot, and then reboot back into recovery and you'll be on amon_ra 2.3. The amon_ra recovery is inside it, no needc to rename or extract the file.
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Yup, like teh roxx said, you can use Unrevoked, then change to Amon Ra. And yes, Amon Ra is better (in my opinion). You can change recoveries any time you want, you could try them both out and see which works better for you if you wanted to. If you do run Unrevoked, just be sure that you remove htc sync, that you install the hboot drivers, and that you have no programs on your pc running that can talk to your phone (htc sync, pda net, easytether, doubletwist etc etc) and you also want to disable your anti virus when you run it, as that can also interfere.

Ok just so I get this straight first. The easiest way to do this would be to first use Unrevoked v3.32 to get root. Then go into recovery and with that image in the root of the sd card and update the phone with it. Then reboot and I would have Amon Ra installed after that. Would the affect unrevoked from working by changing from clockwork to Amon Ra. After I ran unrevoked would I need to run the unrevoked forever as well.

Smurph82 said:
Ok just so I get this straight first. The easiest way to do this would be to first use Unrevoked v3.32 to get root. Then go into recovery and with that image in the root of the sd card and update the phone with it. Then reboot and I would have Amon Ra installed after that. Would the affect unrevoked from working by changing from clockwork to Amon Ra. After I ran unrevoked would I need to run the unrevoked forever as well.
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After using unrevoked, you boot into the bootloader, the white screen with the androids skating boarding to flash the file, not recovery, and then reboot. And no, changing recoveries after using unrevoked won't affect it, and yes, you would flash the forever zip in recovery after doing the previous steps.

Last question I promise because it is getting late here and I am not going to do this right now maybe tomorrow, well later today. Does running Unrevoked give you a full root. I have read that a full root is where the nand is unlocked and that gives you the ability to run nandroid to back up your phone. Also To remove root if I ever needed to go stock again do I uninstall unrevoked or to I install the lastest RUU from Sprint, and if so where to find them.

Smurph82 said:
Last question I promise because it is getting late here and I am not going to do this right now maybe tomorrow, well later today. Does running Unrevoked give you a full root. I have read that a full root is where the nand is unlocked and that gives you the ability to run nandroid to back up your phone. Also To remove root if I ever needed to go stock again do I uninstall unrevoked or to I install the lastest RUU from Sprint, and if so where to find them.
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Unrevoked give you root, but flashing the unrevoked forever gives you the nand unlock. And to unroot, you flash the S-ON tool, then you flash the lastest RUU for you hboot, in this case, 3.70.

Smurph82 said:
Last question I promise because it is getting late here and I am not going to do this right now maybe tomorrow, well later today. Does running Unrevoked give you a full root. I have read that a full root is where the nand is unlocked and that gives you the ability to run nandroid to back up your phone. Also To remove root if I ever needed to go stock again do I uninstall unrevoked or to I install the lastest RUU from Sprint, and if so where to find them.
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Unrevoked does give you full root, nand unlocked. Full root capabilities. Nandroid backups and restore galore. To unroot, you flash the unrevoked s on tool with recovery. Then run RUU. That's it. Nice and simple.
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Smurph82 said:
Last question I promise because it is getting late here and I am not going to do this right now maybe tomorrow, well later today. Does running Unrevoked give you a full root. I have read that a full root is where the nand is unlocked and that gives you the ability to run nandroid to back up your phone. Also To remove root if I ever needed to go stock again do I uninstall unrevoked or to I install the lastest RUU from Sprint, and if so where to find them.
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http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/194918-rooting-dummies.html
this thread is very helpful for the unrevoked method, and yes unrevoked gives you full root including nand

k2buckley how did you get your details and specs in your post. I looked for somewhere to add them but I could not find them anywhere.

teh roxxorz said:
Unrevoked give you root, but flashing the unrevoked forever gives you the nand unlock. And to unroot, you flash the S-ON tool, then you flash the lastest RUU for you hboot, in this case, 3.70.
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Actually, Unrevoked unlocks NAND, too. Honestly, I don't know what the difference it between Unrevoked and Unrevoked Forever, but the regular Unrevoked turns "s" off, too. I've rooted two Evo's within the past month with the regular Unrevoked, and "s" was off and I flashed custom roms and all on both of the phones.
From the unrevoked website:
"unrevoked3 will permanently unlock NAND write protection by default on the following phones"
"unrevoked forever is a tool to set your Android phone's security level to S-OFF."
I've wondered what the difference is between one and the other for a good while now.
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k2buckley how did you get your details and specs in your post. I looked for somewhere to add them but I could not find them anywhere.
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Go into the "user CP" and edit your signature.

rugedraw said:
Actually, Unrevoked unlocks NAND, too. Honestly, I don't know what the difference it between Unrevoked and Unrevoked Forever, but the regular Unrevoked turns "s" off, too. I've rooted two Evo's within the past month with the regular Unrevoked, and "s" was off and I flashed custom roms and all on both of the phones.
From the unrevoked website:
"unrevoked3 will permanently unlock NAND write protection by default on the following phones"
"unrevoked forever is a tool to set your Android phone's security level to S-OFF."
I've wondered what the difference is between one and the other for a good while now.
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Well yes, it does give you nand unlock, but if you don't flash the forever zip, you won't be able to make the system changes, like changing the splash screen.
From the site: "unrevoked forever is a tool to set your Android phone's security level to S-OFF. The security level is a flag stored on the radio; when the flag is S-OFF, the bootloader (HBOOT) will no longer check the signatures of firmware images before flashing them. This allows custom firmware images to be uploaded, including unsigned boot, recovery, splash1, and hboot images (as well as official images that have been modified). When the system is S-OFF, the NAND flash memory protection is also reduced; this allows all partitions (including /system) to be written to while the operating system is booted."

teh roxxorz said:
Well yes, it does give you nand unlock, but if you don't flash the forever zip, you won't be able to make the system changes, like changing the splash screen.
From the site: "unrevoked forever is a tool to set your Android phone's security level to S-OFF. The security level is a flag stored on the radio; when the flag is S-OFF, the bootloader (HBOOT) will no longer check the signatures of firmware images before flashing them. This allows custom firmware images to be uploaded, including unsigned boot, recovery, splash1, and hboot images (as well as official images that have been modified). When the system is S-OFF, the NAND flash memory protection is also reduced; this allows all partitions (including /system) to be written to while the operating system is booted."
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Hmmm....so on the phones I used Unrevoked3 on, I will not be able to push/flash a splash screen onto it? I still don't quite understand the difference, but thanks for your input. I obviously still have A LOT to learn. lol

I keep seeing where people are using something called the Toast method to root their phone. Is that where you do everything from the command line. I bet a lot of people don't even remember the command line haha. Is there really any difference between the two (Unrevoked and Toast). What about security. Does rooting with Unrevoked have any back doors or anything like that. I don't mean to offend anyone just asking the question, I think that all the work people put into things like this are great. I work in high security areas and this is always on my mind. If I install something like Lookout Mobile Security could that mess with the phone being rooted. You all are great.

rugedraw said:
Hmmm....so on the phones I used Unrevoked3 on, I will not be able to push/flash a splash screen onto it? I still don't quite understand the difference, but thanks for your input. I obviously still have A LOT to learn. lol
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Yea, it'll tell you no permissions, ect. And if you used unrevoked, to flash a splash is slightly different than the standard method, and I can tell you if you want to know. The unrevoked, goes to a low level to unlock those permissions.
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I keep seeing where people are using something called the Toast method to root their phone. Is that where you do everything from the command line. I bet a lot of people don't even remember the command line haha. Is there really any difference between the two (Unrevoked and Toast). What about security. Does rooting with Unrevoked have any back doors or anything like that. I don't mean to offend anyone just asking the question, I think that all the work people put into things like this are great. I work in high security areas and this is always on my mind. If I install something like Lookout Mobile Security could that mess with the phone being rooted. You all are great.
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Well i started using the toast method, but it didn't work for me, since when I got my Evo 2.2 JUST came out, and people were scrambling blah blah, I digress. And what do you mean by backdoor? If you root using unrevoked you get all the same permissions/benefits of rooting as those with the toast method. And using a program like lookout security wouldn't affect your phone at all.

Smurph82 said:
I keep seeing where people are using something called the Toast method to root their phone. Is that where you do everything from the command line. I bet a lot of people don't even remember the command line haha. Is there really any difference between the two (Unrevoked and Toast). What about security. Does rooting with Unrevoked have any back doors or anything like that. I don't mean to offend anyone just asking the question, I think that all the work people put into things like this are great. I work in high security areas and this is always on my mind. If I install something like Lookout Mobile Security could that mess with the phone being rooted. You all are great.
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I used Toast's Part 1 & 2 method to root back in June mainly because it was the only thing available. It was not a noob friendly process, IMO, but it worked and my phone is still rooted to this day using his method. Also, it forced me to learn a few things that I wouldn't have had I had Unrevoked at my disposal.
However, I believe Toast's methods are outdated now as the current Evo software and hboots require different exploits to obtain root.

teh roxxorz said:
Yea, it'll tell you no permissions, ect. And if you used unrevoked, to flash a splash is slightly different than the standard method, and I can tell you if you want to know. The unrevoked, goes to a low level to unlock those permissions.
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Thanks, man.....I always see you on here helping people out and you are an asset to the XDA community. However, I Unrevoked the phones for some people that wanted wireless tether and screen shots......they could care less for the splash screens. Plus, I'm sure I can Google it and figure it out if it comes down to it. Mainly, I was asking for the knowledge as to "why" more than "how", and I think I follow now.
Your help is much appreciated, though.

[Q] Root 2.3.4

So, did I screw up? I reflashed to stock 2.2 in order to fix a few issues. I got the OTA message to update and I did, so now I'm on 2.3.4 with no way to re-root because I can't turn s-off. Would it be safe to use the unrevoked s-off forever tool or should I go with the gingerbreak.apk method. I feel like an idiot for updating, so take it easy on me... LOL! Thanks in advance.

I used this guide to get my Incredible rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
My first time ever rooting an andriod device. May work for you, may not. You didn't say which device you have. I ended up using the zergrush method to get mine rooted with s-off. Not sure I needed to use that method since I had screwed up and made myself think I had to try it that way.
Rooted DINC ADR6300 with CyanogenMod 7.2 S-OFF

Thanks, but it didn't work for me. Not sure if it's because I'm a Mac user or what, but it was definitely a no go. I don't want to be stuck un-rooted forever! LOL!

gotbst05 said:
Thanks, but it didn't work for me. Not sure if it's because I'm a Mac user or what, but it was definitely a no go. I don't want to be stuck un-rooted forever! LOL!
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The method in the link above is the only way to root an incredible on android 2.3.4 that is s-on. Your best bet would be to find a friend with a pc and try it again.

cmlusco said:
The method in the link above is the only way to root an incredible on android 2.3.4 that is s-on. Your best bet would be to find a friend with a pc and try it again.
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I'll give it a shot and see what happens. Thanks.

I've been trying for two days by doing the method mentioned and no luck. I am following it exactly, but I keep getting an error message stating that my firmware is too new.

BuffaloChips said:
I used this guide to get my Incredible rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
My first time ever rooting an andriod device. May work for you, may not. You didn't say which device you have. I ended up using the zergrush method to get mine rooted with s-off. Not sure I needed to use that method since I had screwed up and made myself think I had to try it that way.
Rooted DINC ADR6300 with CyanogenMod 7.2 S-OFF
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I also was successful in rooting my Inc using the older version of Unrevoked in this thread (version 3.22 I believe). I stopped before doing the full downgrade and S-OFF... I haven't decided if that is worth the hassle or not.

Previously rooted, here you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-wjmYmSeSQ
works on mac and pc, but only if your s-off

korydak1lla said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-wjmYmSeSQ
works on mac and pc, but only if your s-off
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Kind of a pointless video. Of course you can root 2.3.4 if your already s-off. That is the whole point of being s-off, so if newer firmware comes out that isnt supported by unrevoked or other rooting programs, you can still easily get root by flashing a custom recovery thru hboot and the su binary thru recovery, and your fully rooted again.