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FRF91 and Sense, is it that hard?

Okay, I know I sound like a petulant child here, but there seem to be many FRF85 Sense roms, and a few FRF91 non-sense roms, but a severe lack of FRF91 Sense roms.
I had a G1 for nearly a year and helped many of my friends with their heros along the way too, and the community kept astounding me by having things like 1.6 and 2.1 before release, shortly followed by full roms that were perfect and based on the releases the same day as the release came out, absolutely caning the vendors' update schedules.
I'm not really gonna ask why there's only the one frf91 sense rom that is via a paysite (yeah I know paul's good, but I'm unemployed atm, so paying is out of the question), but if anyone knows of a baked rom or how to upgrade any of the frf85 sense roms to frf91, I'd love to hear about it.
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Martyn

Merging Froyo with Sense is harder than you think
It is not just a question of copying over Sense, you must change most system files in order to function with it and.. it's difficult.
Have you not seen DJDROID's rom? it is froyo FRF91 + sense, a prelease from HTC
This is what you are looking for is it not?

cgrec92 said:
Have you not seen DJDROID's rom? it is froyo FRF91 + sense, a prelease from HTC
This is what you are looking for is it not?
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Every DJDroid (or DJDroid + this + that etc.) thread either states FRF85 or doesn't state an FRF code at all. Where did your info that it was FRF91 come from?

ranyardm said:
Every DJDroid (or DJDroid + this + that etc.) thread either states FRF85 or doesn't state an FRF code at all. Where did your info that it was FRF91 come from?
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I personally flashed the ROM and in Settings -> About Phone - it states that it is FRF91.

cgrec92 said:
I personally flashed the ROM and in Settings -> About Phone - it states that it is FRF91.
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Fantastic! which particular rom was it you flashed, a udk one? Could I be really awkward and ask for a link to the post?

[Q] Poll - ROMS

Ok peeps! It's time someone stepped up and posted a thread that addresses the most critical of (the technically inclined) humanity's issues:
ROMS - From the bunch out there, which one is your favorite and why?
I'll start this poll by posting the ones available in the Android Development forum. If none apply, please post what you are using and why.
Not sure if we can change polls after they started so probably can't add any options after the initial post, but suggestions might make it into a next edition. For now I'll post 20 ROMS
Let's get our 'droid on people!

Bumping back to top so more people can see the poll. Would be great if some admin could sticky this poll for the duration so we could get more participants and maybe get a better sense of what the community is doing / using.

Been trying out a few ROMs lately, though currently happy with Froyo DeLite, it's pretty much the stock Froyo release by HTC just with root and no new hboot, just what i was looking for.

I'm running this one: [ROM] Official 2.2, with: busybox, old A2SD+, OpenVPN (TUN), EXT4 support, 802.11N by ieftm. Which one is it in your list?

snark_be said:
I'm running this one: [ROM] Official 2.2, with: busybox, old A2SD+, OpenVPN (TUN), EXT4 support, 802.11N by ieftm. Which one is it in your list?
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LOL... When preparing this poll I had counted 20 ROMs. When I finished filling out the forms, I had 19 and an open space and couldn't figure out what was missing so I used the 20th spot and filled it in with "others". Guess now I know which one I forgot
Just vote for others and leave your comment. Thanks for commenting and sorry to all that I messed this up by forgetting that ROM

Nitrius said:
Been trying out a few ROMs lately.
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Same here. I'm using roufianos V3 right now but still not 100% happy

edgeball said:
Same here. I'm using roufianos V3 right now but still not 100% happy
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Which ROM did you most like up till now?
Personaly, so far I have to say I liked LeeDroid Mod and Cyanogen. If I had to choose I would be hard pressed. But despite that I am still stuck on a Rooted Official HTC Android 2.2 (FroYo).
For me, I love the purity and simplicity of a non-sense ui. Hence my passion for Cyanogen (amongst the non-sense mods). But I must confess that I miss Friendstream, and clock / weather widget and animations, and also the HTC calendar. This brings me back to LeeDroid. If I were somehow able to get these 3 things on a Cyanogen Mod, I'd be in trouble because then I'd have to choose one of them !

Neophyte
I like Sense. It's the only phone skin I've come across that I think adds something to the phone UI.
I've tried Dj Droid and Leedroid, and all the Neophyte ROMs. I've stuck with the latter as they're really quick, seem totally stable and basically I can't find anything wrong with them!

landwomble said:
I like Sense. It's the only phone skin I've come across that I think adds something to the phone UI.
I've tried Dj Droid and Leedroid, and all the Neophyte ROMs. I've stuck with the latter as they're really quick, seem totally stable and basically I can't find anything wrong with them!
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I think there are 2 NeoPhyTe ROMs out there, right? NexTSense and NeoPhyTe ROM. Which one do you prefer?

I'm confused between so many ROMs and so many changes. What I want is one rooted but first of all STABLE (without any bugs) ROM. I don't need nothing special added or removed from official one.
If someone can suggest the one - I would be thankfull.

Me too which one, and especially how to ROOT for lamers like us?

bembelembe said:
I'm confused between so many ROMs and so many changes. What I want is one rooted but first of all STABLE (without any bugs) ROM. I don't need nothing special added or removed from official one.
If someone can suggest the one - I would be thankfull.
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Please note this isn't a poll to figure out which ROM is king! No, it's just intended to give us a sense of what's going on in the community and what people like and are looking for so that hopefully, new developers can take that info and use it, either tweaking their existing ROM, or making new ones based on the ones people most like, or even creating something that is 180º different and goes in another direction.
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Me too which one, and especially how to ROOT for lamers like us?
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Same as above for the first part of your post. Check "unrevoked" for the rest.

I've always had Modaco roms for my Android handsets (T-Mobile Pulse, HTC Hero & then Desire). They have always been extremely stable. For a close-to-stock 2.1 Sense (Eclair) ROM, Modaco r3.1 was the best for me!
I tried LeeDroid Mod 1.3a (to try out Froyo) and haven't looked back. I've decided not to update to any of the other versions (1.5, 1.6, 1.7 etc) as everything works perfectly for me!
Unless there's a significant reason to update (specifically battery life), then I'm staying on LeeDroid 1.3a.

MistaJae said:
I've always had Modaco roms for my Android handsets (T-Mobile Pulse, HTC Hero & then Desire). They have always been extremely stable. For a close-to-stock 2.1 Sense (Eclair) ROM, Modaco r3.1 was the best for me!
I tried LeeDroid Mod 1.3a (to try out Froyo) and haven't looked back. I've decided not to update to any of the other versions (1.5, 1.6, 1.7 etc) as everything works perfectly for me!
Unless there's a significant reason to update (specifically battery life), then I'm staying on LeeDroid 1.3a.
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Sounds perfectly reasonable.

Has anyone tried jdfroyo
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LeeDrOiD Mod 34 23.61%
really that good?

yeah man, that rom rox

the most stock, complete, functional rooted rom i've encountered so far.
[ROM] Official 2.2, with: busybox, old A2SD+, OpenVPN (TUN), EXT4 support, 802.11N

I have tried a lot of them and now I´m using Defrost 2.5a, I know it´s not based on 2.09 Froyo but I want to try and leave Sense Ui once and for all.
Qudrant just got me 1441 and Linpack around 39-40 all the time.
I´m gonna install that Launcher Pro Plus and Beautiful Widgets for the weather and such.
If I wanted to go back to Sense, I would choose my fellow spaniard Neophyte´s 1.4a or 2.1b (both rock).
Cheers

casca said:
the most stock, complete, functional rooted rom i've encountered so far.
[ROM] Official 2.2, with: busybox, old A2SD+, OpenVPN (TUN), EXT4 support, 802.11N
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Das que é bem verdade que os tugas andam por toda a parte!!!
I tried it yesterday and actually was impressed with it, but still not my cup o' tea. Still, I would say yeah, one of the best.

What rom do you use at the moment and why?

We have got many good developers here working on different ROMS.
I just would like to know what ROM are you all using at the moment and why.
I used most of the time Sense rom from Leedroid. I love his boot image and the fact it is sense rom. I tried Sense HD and I like it, but until the camera works is no good for me for day to day use. Last couple of days I use MIUI and it is really different but nice (like iphone OS but on better device)

I've used Defrost, Opendesire, Villainrom, SupervillainHD and Oxygen. Like the ASOP roms the best, as they are the fastest, allow me to choose the addons more (not 3 or more programs for one task, if i don't want to use Sense apps), and are more versatily (at least, appear to me to be so).

Moved to general as this is in no way pertaining to ROM development.

fair enough. I just tought the poll might help people to choose a rom to use/try.

I am using pinky desire classsic at the moment .

CM 6.1 RC - cause simply I hate to update alot. I'm considering it the latest satisfying my needs!

using pays sense rom
tried auraxtsense rom, but reverted back to pays
it has the best dialer i have seen in a rom.
would like to try sense HD, but wont until they fix the camera

inkredi said:
CM 6.1 RC - cause simply I hate to update alot. I'm considering it the latest satisfying my needs!
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I never really tried CM rom. i have to give it a go.

What does Stock mean if you've got Sense?? Sense is stock on the Desire...

EddyOS said:
What does Stock mean if you've got Sense?? Sense is stock on the Desire...
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By sense rom he probably mean roms like leedroid etc.

On that assumption I voted stock as I'm running the stock 2.29.405.2 WWE ROM
Why? As it does all I need it to

OpenDesire
I went from stock ROM to OpenDesire 4.0.36. I do not miss Sense at all and BT keyboard now works (why, HTC, oh why?). The only thing I miss from Sense is the weather widget.
Too bad OpenDesire will not be updated any longer as from the final 4.1 version. I hope it gets Gingerbread (2.3) in the final build.

Leedroid, because it has apps2sd by default and is pretty clean and has some other nice little touches (but still pretty close to stock) like a transparent notification drawer

I tried all rom types, but in the end I return to Sense. People who say AOSP or Cyanogen are faster have clearly never used a sense rom. It's at least on par and scrolling is smoother.

CrimzonEyed said:
By sense rom he probably mean roms like leedroid etc.
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yes that's exactly what I mean

Teppic74's Rom and tweaks: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997
With the GPU and SD card patched kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819601
And a theme I made using UOT kitchen.
I like sense, and I wanted something relatively close to stock but with A2SD and a few other bits and pieces.

[Q] Gingerbread based ROMs for Incredible

So I thought Skyraider (3.5 and Athena) were Gingerbread based ROMs. I've been looking around, but I'm still a little confused. Which ones are Gingerbread based ROMS and which ones are currently the most bug-free?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865331 is this the only one?
Thanks

Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
There are 3 primary types of ROM out for the Incredibe; Sense, Sense(less), and AOSP.
Sense - A sense-based ROM, obviously, has HTC Sense. These ROMs are extracted from a phone, then ported to the Incredible, and/or customized as needed. Most Sense ROMs are actually based off an official Incredible release (Redemption, Virtuous, Skyraider Sense, etc.). Some are based off the Evo (Redemptive Revolution), while others are ports from the Desire Z or Desire HD. In order for a Sense-based ROM to be 2.3 (gingerbread), HTC has to first port Sense to Gingerbread, which they haven't done yet. So, there's no Sense-based 2.3 ROM out, yet.
Sense(less) - Really, all a Sense(less) ROM is, is a Sense-based ROM with Sense elements removed or hidden. This is to preserve the stability of a Sense-ROM while offering the look and customization of an AOSP ROM.
AOSP - Android Open Source Project; These are the ROMs where a developer takes the a stock Android version, ports it to your phone, and may or may not customize the crap out of it. These are the ROMs where you'll get Gingerbread. The most popular seems to be Cyanogen(mod). CM7 is in the nightly phase, which is an advanced beta, but very stable with only minor issues. It's currently based on Android 2.3.2
So, to answer your question, there are a few Gingerbread ROMs out, none of which use Sense. Cyanogen(mod) is a good place to start.

Your post should be a sticky or a FAQ. This makes perfect sense and really cleared up any confusion I had. Thanks!
jaykresge said:
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
There are 3 primary types of ROM out for the Incredibe; Sense, Sense(less), and AOSP.
Sense - A sense-based ROM, obviously, has HTC Sense. These ROMs are extracted from a phone, then ported to the Incredible, and/or customized as needed. Most Sense ROMs are actually based off an official Incredible release (Redemption, Virtuous, Skyraider Sense, etc.). Some are based off the Evo (Redemptive Revolution), while others are ports from the Desire Z or Desire HD. In order for a Sense-based ROM to be 2.3 (gingerbread), HTC has to first port Sense to Gingerbread, which they haven't done yet. So, there's no Sense-based 2.3 ROM out, yet.
Sense(less) - Really, all a Sense(less) ROM is, is a Sense-based ROM with Sense elements removed or hidden. This is to preserve the stability of a Sense-ROM while offering the look and customization of an AOSP ROM.
AOSP - Android Open Source Project; These are the ROMs where a developer takes the a stock Android version, ports it to your phone, and may or may not customize the crap out of it. These are the ROMs where you'll get Gingerbread. The most popular seems to be Cyanogen(mod). CM7 is in the nightly phase, which is an advanced beta, but very stable with only minor issues. It's currently based on Android 2.3.2
So, to answer your question, there are a few Gingerbread ROMs out, none of which use Sense. Cyanogen(mod) is a good place to start.
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never knew what AOSP stood for, so thanks for that!

jaykresge said:
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
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I have been playing with ROMs for last few months and could not figure this out until this post.
thanks

jaykresge said:
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
There are 3 primary types of ROM out for the Incredibe; Sense, Sense(less), and AOSP.
Sense - A sense-based ROM, obviously, has HTC Sense. These ROMs are extracted from a phone, then ported to the Incredible, and/or customized as needed. Most Sense ROMs are actually based off an official Incredible release (Redemption, Virtuous, Skyraider Sense, etc.). Some are based off the Evo (Redemptive Revolution), while others are ports from the Desire Z or Desire HD. In order for a Sense-based ROM to be 2.3 (gingerbread), HTC has to first port Sense to Gingerbread, which they haven't done yet. So, there's no Sense-based 2.3 ROM out, yet.
Sense(less) - Really, all a Sense(less) ROM is, is a Sense-based ROM with Sense elements removed or hidden. This is to preserve the stability of a Sense-ROM while offering the look and customization of an AOSP ROM.
AOSP - Android Open Source Project; These are the ROMs where a developer takes the a stock Android version, ports it to your phone, and may or may not customize the crap out of it. These are the ROMs where you'll get Gingerbread. The most popular seems to be Cyanogen(mod). CM7 is in the nightly phase, which is an advanced beta, but very stable with only minor issues. It's currently based on Android 2.3.2
So, to answer your question, there are a few Gingerbread ROMs out, none of which use Sense. Cyanogen(mod) is a good place to start.
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I agree with the rest, thank you for the insight on what the ROMS mean... I am currently running CM7 Nightly build #17, only issue I still have is playing a video and a qcp file...sigh anyhow great stuff and thanks again

nocode99 said:
So I thought Skyraider (3.5 and Athena) were Gingerbread based ROMs. I've been looking around, but I'm still a little confused. Which ones are Gingerbread based ROMS and which ones are currently the most bug-free?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865331 is this the only one?
Thanks
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http://t3hh4xx0r.com/ check here for some gingerbread

Removing gingerbread rom HELP!
I am new to the xda websites and forums alltogether. I rooted my phone about 3 weeks ago, and found a rom by xda to try an alpha version of gingerbread. I need to return my phone to either the rooted stage it was previously to adding the gingerbread, or completely unroot it altogether. I imagine that someone has probably posted about this already, but I was unable to find it. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. Please excuse my idiocy.

Here is probably the best place to start researching:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371

jaykresge said:
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime. So, I'm going to directly answer your question, but also give you some more background so that in the future, you'll have a better understanding of how these ROMs work.
There are 3 primary types of ROM out for the Incredibe; Sense, Sense(less), and AOSP.
Sense - A sense-based ROM, obviously, has HTC Sense. These ROMs are extracted from a phone, then ported to the Incredible, and/or customized as needed. Most Sense ROMs are actually based off an official Incredible release (Redemption, Virtuous, Skyraider Sense, etc.). Some are based off the Evo (Redemptive Revolution), while others are ports from the Desire Z or Desire HD. In order for a Sense-based ROM to be 2.3 (gingerbread), HTC has to first port Sense to Gingerbread, which they haven't done yet. So, there's no Sense-based 2.3 ROM out, yet.
Sense(less) - Really, all a Sense(less) ROM is, is a Sense-based ROM with Sense elements removed or hidden. This is to preserve the stability of a Sense-ROM while offering the look and customization of an AOSP ROM.
AOSP - Android Open Source Project; These are the ROMs where a developer takes the a stock Android version, ports it to your phone, and may or may not customize the crap out of it. These are the ROMs where you'll get Gingerbread. The most popular seems to be Cyanogen(mod). CM7 is in the nightly phase, which is an advanced beta, but very stable with only minor issues. It's currently based on Android 2.3.2
So, to answer your question, there are a few Gingerbread ROMs out, none of which use Sense. Cyanogen(mod) is a good place to start.
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Cyanogen also has a stable build which is based on Gingerbread 2.3.3 where the nightly build is currently based on 2.3.4 and I can attest to the fact that build #108 is bug free.
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Wrath_unleashed said:
Cyanogen also has a stable build which is based on Gingerbread 2.3.3 where the nightly build is currently based on 2.3.4 and I can attest to the fact that build #108 is bug free.
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The post that you quoted was from January. I assure you that it was correct at the time

Here's one. I'm running it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113507&page=63

best Android 2.3 + Sense Rom

Hello guys,
I can't decide which Android 2.3 + Sense Rom I should flash on my DHD.
there are the following Roms to choose:
- LeeDroid HD 2.3.4 beta 3
- CoreDroid V4
- Android Revolution HD 4.0 beta 1
- VillainRom 2.0.1
- RCMix HD 4.2
Which Rom did you choose and why did you choose it ???
Thanks very much

VillainROM because Nathan, the maker of it, made also many very excellent ROMs for the HTC Hero and so I trust him that he'll also make good ROMs for Desire HD.

i had leedroid 2.2 and it worked fine. then i wiped my phone and installed leedroid 2.3, but only part of sense showed up on my phone! really weird. then i flased RCmix 2.3 and it works brilliant!

you mean RCMix HD 4.2, right ??

If you MUST use Sense (I dont know why...) The Beta ARHD 4.0 is your best bet. Its a good experience so far.
That said, I am a CM7 User, and I hate Sense, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

I had the same question some time ago and it's often a thing of personal decision. So you probably will have to try for yourself. All the ROMs have good performance.
I'm using Revo HD because it looks like stock but with nice tweaks.

lilil said:
Hello guys,
I can't decide which Android 2.3 + Sense Rom I should flash on my DHD.
there are the following Roms to choose:
- LeeDroid HD 2.3.4 beta 3
- CoreDroid V4
- Android Revolution HD 4.0 beta 1
- VillainRom 2.0.1
- RCMix HD 4.2
Which Rom did you choose and why did you choose it ???
Thanks very much
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I'd go with Revolution. Best Sense ROM IMO.
CHorden said:
If you MUST use Sense (I dont know why...)
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Only reason that I use sense is because I like some of the Sense apps(Dialer and messaging mainly)

I'd Choose either of Revolution or Leedroid , both are gr8 roms, the others listed Tbh i havent flashed those on my DHD so can't really give my opinion on those tilli try em out. i've used leedroid since v.1.5 and its been my personal fave one to use daily.

bur2000 said:
I had the same question some time ago and it's often a thing of personal decision. So you probably will have to try for yourself. All the ROMs have good performance.
I'm using Revo HD because it looks like stock but with nice tweaks.
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Actually I am concerned about the daily usability of the different builds and if it's worth to jump to gingerbread seen the source is a leaked build probably in very early stage. I would like to try it but I feel so confortable with AR3 ... Please someone tell me I would not regret it

smog said:
Actually I am concerned about the daily usability of the different builds and if it's worth to jump to gingerbread seen the source is a leaked build probably in very early stage. I would like to try it but I feel so confortable with AR3 ... Please someone tell me I would not regret it
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You could always back up your rom before flashing ?

I would obviously do it, but I am so lazy that was wondering if this rom is worth it ... I promise I'll do my homeworks and let you know here if it is

Android Revolution HD 4.0 beta 1 without a doubt.
Beta 2 out tomorrow so maybe you should wait for that one to flash.

FabioRochapt said:
Android Revolution HD 4.0 beta 1 without a doubt.
Beta 2 out tomorrow so maybe you should wait for that one to flash.
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Any idea what time beta 2 is being released?? Im looking forward to going to Gingerbread but am completely reliant on my phone for work and dont have a spare so want it to be as stable and have everything working before i take the plunge!! Also does anyone know if the GB roms can be overclocked yet and which radio should be used??
Thanks in advance!!

Nevermind, just checked and Beta 2 is OUT NOW!!!!

I am using leedroid 2.3.4 beta 4 r2. The reason i'm running this is that i have used his leedroid vesion on my phone since i bought it, and that he is very quick with updates and fixes. Also lee's rom is always lightning fast!