Develop Bugs

Bugs in TouchFlo & missing items

Going from a TyTnII to a Touch Pro 2 a few bug & short comings become obvious in the TouchFlo interface.
Home
The Date is only in US format, it ignores the region settings on the device
The alarm frequently doesn’t go off
The region settings if you change home city around midnight it will show day for original home city as yesterday but not as tomorrow
The calendar only shows today & tomorrow, the is no way to change this to the next 3 – 5 – 7 days
You can’t add tasks or anything else to the list
People
It’s fiddly to thumb through the contacts without accidently selecting one, & the side images are very fiddly
Go to All People find someone, select a number call them, but no answer. Go back to get another number & you have to start all over again, rather than still being on the same contact or even that same place in the list
Messages
It takes too long (5 seconds) for a message to change to read. Sending a contact by 3G it goes as MMS not SMS which it does when working just in Windows 6.1
If it’s a long message you can’t scroll up / down
The tab to enable the predictive 4 words is missing, only being enabled in the registry, possibly related but full querty keeps changing to a numbers only keypad or HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 0 to 1
Internet
Once active it doesn’t time out after any time. Hence opening you up to extra data charges & lower battery life
(If you want to stop it auto connecting, just put a user name but now password in the connections setting)
Calendar
No week view
Music
Takes a long time to load
No ABC list at side (as in contacts) with 5GB of music it’s a lot of scrolling
Library only shows those on Device unless you change it in WMP.
Camera
Why isn’t the 5 MP like the touch HD?
Why isn’t the GPS location enabled to start, rather than having to go into the registry
Stocks
I don’t know as I don’t do them
Settings
This looks better in 2.5
Buttons
Only one can be remapped – I use Phone button long hold to get into Windows 6.1
A number of games, while in the game could be remapped for left right turn fire
Software
Record isn’t there – so no more voice memos / call record mid call
Also there wasn’t a radio, but thanks to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521356 there is & it even has RDS, but more than 6 memories would be nice.
Even if it has a radio it still needs TMC for the traffic update in the CoPilot 7 GPS
Why when you upgrade 6.0 to 6.1 & I guess to 6.5 the whole device gets wiped, you have to load all the software again and there is no way of keeping scores or levels.
I had a TREO & the software took a normal back up, then apply that to a replacement & you can’t see the difference. Why can’t Windows backup do this?

Voice Recorder & Radio : it all depends on where you get your device. Mine comes with both.
Upgrade ROM wipes everything : that has always been the case with Pocket PC, not just with wm6

Wow, that's a long rant. But a lot of the stuff can be addressed or will be in the next revision of TF3D.
cjatcti said:
The Date is only in US format, it ignores the region settings on the device
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You can change the date format with Advanced Config tool.
cjatcti said:
The region settings if you change home city around midnight it will show day for original home city as yesterday but not as tomorrow
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This is a little weak. You're deliberately doing something that a normal person would not normally do just to try to trick the device. I'm not buying this rant.
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The calendar only shows today & tomorrow, the is no way to change this to the next 3 – 5 – 7 days
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Really should search for such a common issue.
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You can’t add tasks or anything else to the list
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You can use Manila Today.
cjatcti said:
It’s fiddly to thumb through the contacts without accidently selecting one, & the side images are very fiddly
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This will be fixed with Manila v2.5
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Go to All People find someone, select a number call them, but no answer. Go back to get another number & you have to start all over again, rather than still being on the same contact or even that same place in the list
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Use the phone app. IMHO, it's not as flashy but faster to search for a name in the phone app. Just type the person's name either with the dialpad or slideout keyboard.
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Once active it doesn’t time out after any time. Hence opening you up to extra data charges & lower battery life
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Opera does time out on me quite a bit. If it takes too long to read from a site, it gives the 500 error timeout. Anyway, you can choose to completely kill Opera from your running programs. Search for it if it really bothers you. I think someone from the Topaz forum figured it out.
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No week view
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Fixed in Manila v2.5
cjatcti said:
Takes a long time to load
No ABC list at side (as in contacts) with 5GB of music it’s a lot of scrolling
Library only shows those on Device unless you change it in WMP.
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I have quite a bit of music on my SD card and it doesn't take an annoyingly amount of time to load. Besides, when it's loading, your device is still very much functional.
There should be a search function to find a particular song. But I think it fine as long as all your music are tagged appropriately so that you can search via album or artist.
The library shows all music in your SD card and in your My Music folder in main memory. I don't see anything wrong with this setup. Where else would you want the library to look?
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Record isn’t there – so no more voice memos / call record mid call
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Record is still there. It just no longer has a dedicated program link. Just go to Notes. Go to menu-view recording toolbar.
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Why when you upgrade 6.0 to 6.1 & I guess to 6.5 the whole device gets wiped, you have to load all the software again and there is no way of keeping scores or levels.
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This a little annoying. But I take this as an opportunity to clean out my device. I put organize all files into their respective folders, decide whether or not a particular app is useful enough to be reinstalled, etc.

Thank you for the reply & the links, I wasn’t trying to rant, just list the easily fixable short comings in one place & possibly HTC might get them fixed in a future release. I know it can be fun tinkering to improve, but I believe it should work out of the box.
Kitchens should be for extras

Time Zone Bug in the touch flow interface.
To avoid Outlook moving the times of my flights as the time zones change, I tell the phone not to auto update time zone & just change the time in my home town.
So when I arrived in Poland, I set my home town Cheltenham time on an hour. Later I discovered that the Phone had added GMT +1 Berlin & ignored the Warszawa time zone I had set.
When I came back to the US, turned on my phone looked later & it was asking me to select a city.
1) The problem with Outlook changing appointment times to suit time zones is just plane wrong.
2) Yet again Touch flow ignores a windows interface setting
3) It should at least ask you if it wants to change
4) It should look to see if you have a city in country you are in already selected instead of just adding more World Clock entries

you are saying that the week view is fixed in 2.5? is this out now or coming soon?
ty

frozenbutt said:
you are saying that the week view is fixed in 2.5? is this out now or coming soon?
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Of course, not officially released by HTC yet. But then, Windows Mobile 6.5 isn't officially released either and that didn't stop people from getting it on our devices...

Is there No Voice Dialing on the Desire?

Anyone know how to voice dial on the desire, doesn't seem to be any button combination that allows voice dialing ?
Surely they have not missed this out ?
If they have missed it out any good apps like MSVC but on the android platform ?
Thanks

This is a good find! On the G1 you hold the call button, but I don't know how it works with no dedicated call button.

How about this?
http://choicedialer.com/
http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.resounding.choicedialer.pro/
$4, not bad if you really like it.
There is free version though:
http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.resounding.choicedialer.free/

Or this:
http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid/17872-voice-dialing.html#post135403

Or this:
http://androidforums.com/motorola-dr...tml#post135403
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Did see this but does not work on the desire. The first link is close but it appears there is no way to voice dial with a bluetooth headset. Really dont know why this has been missed out of any release as it a well used feature.
Thanks for the info anyway, i am sure eventually it will be included, maybe in another rom update.

Does it work if you press and hold the on-screen send key in the dialer app?
This thread on Android forums suggests the function was available on earlier HTC phones:
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/voice-dialing-878/

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Does it work if you press and hold the on-screen send key in the dialer app?
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No that doesn't do anything. I've just tried the free version of ChoiceDialer and so far it seems very good. I am in a very quiet environment so I want to test it out in noisier areas before I decide whether to get the paid version.

Damn! That's disappointing! It's one of those features I never even bother to look for. These days I assume all phones would have this function.
Good to see there is an app that can do voicedialing. WOuld be interedted in hearing your thoughts after a couple of days use.

Get "Choice Dialer" from the Market. Great program, IMO.

Paid for the full version of Choice Dialler. Love it! I can say 'Play music from ..' and name one of my playlists or albums and it starts playing it. For me so far it worksabout 70 to 80% of the time and I don't have to use a US accent even though the developer confirmed to me it is designed for US voice recognition.
One bug for me though and that is I have to disable the ability to find individual song tracks. It says I have too many but at the moment I have only installed 367! The developer is trying to find the problem but it would be helpful to know if anyone else with the paid version has a similar problem. (Searching for music isn't available on the free version.)

if you have the desire you can go to the voice search app and say "dial so and so _________ insert name" that should work for the voice dial it is already preinstalled so you don't need to pay anything hope this helps you guys

New voice search does it. You have to select us accent in the settings tho. Hold search button, then say call name mobile/home. Done. Works with my eastern European accent LOL
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

But there is no way to do ir over BT

Just posting my general frustration with this.
Just got a HTC desire. My ancient Ericsson would do this and not a so called smart phone. Voice dial via Bluetooth is essential for in car calls.

LostInSwiss said:
Just got a HTC desire. My ancient Ericsson would do this and not a so called smart phone. Voice dial via Bluetooth is essential for in car calls.
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I couldn't agree more. This is a high end device and this feature ought to be included and be 100% reliable. What were they thinking? Apple made the same mistake with the first iPhone, you'd think Google would have learnt from it. It's a pathetic omission.

tryingtohelp said:
if you have the desire you can go to the voice search app and say "dial so and so _________ insert name" that should work for the voice dial it is already preinstalled so you don't need to pay anything hope this helps you guys
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thats what i thought was the idea.
shame it doesnt work over bluetooth - just seems to call the last person called instead

When I use the voice search, all it does is bring up a google web browser. How can I change it to call people or play music?

still missing voicedial over bluetooth as I had on my old SonyEricsson with me creating database of sound for names
is there an app with such a funcionality?

alanbyrne said:
When I use the voice search, all it does is bring up a google web browser. How can I change it to call people or play music?
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open the voice search app up and turn off google web search and enable contacts etc.

open the voice search app up and turn off google web search and enable contacts etc.
Sorry but i cant find any settings to disable google and enable contacks ...........any help?

Android + Audi 3G MMI Contact Sync

Not sure how many of us here drive an Audi, but figured I'd give this forum a shot. I posted this question in the car forums, but apparently no one uses Android over there, let alone an Evo. I'm not quite sure if this is a phone specific problem or an Android problem.
So Audi's 3G Multimedia Interface (MMI), uses bluetooth to connect/sync my phone contacts from my phone and displays them on my car's Nav screen. From there I can select names, make calls, etc.
The problem is, I believe that the car is pulling "All Contacts" instead of just "My contacts" from Google. This makes it extremely cumbersome as I have an extra 100 contacts to sift through while I'm driving.
However, my phone itself is setup correctly, as I selected "Only contacts with phone numbers".
I realize Audi's management of phone sync may be different from other car makers, but it may also be the similar. Any ideas?

I'm not sure that there's anything you can do. Mine syncs the entire phonebook also (Audi A4). Sorry to break the bad news.

Yea, that's a bit disheartening. Thanks for the reply though, good to know. Who could we contact to try and get this changed? HTC? Google?

nvius said:
Yea, that's a bit disheartening. Thanks for the reply though, good to know. Who could we contact to try and get this changed? HTC? Google?
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I am working on the same issue - temp solution - download just the contacts you want into a vcard format, then put them on an SD card and sync. It is much cleaner, but only allows 100 contacts. It worked better for me with addresses also for the nav.

I work for a competing automaker as a dealership technician. We run into this problem and many others with our wireless to vehicle integration system. The best workaround for your particular problem would be to swap your contact lists. Backup all of your contacts to Google. Then delete all of the contacts you don't want sent to the car. Then redownload your phone book to the car. Next, restore your contact list from Google. And finally, reupload only the contacts you want Google to store to the Google cloud.
I know its a lot of steps, but it should provide you with the solution you require. One other thing to keep in mind, if you have an automated phonebook download option in your vehicles interface, it should be deactivated. If it isn't, there's the distinct possibility that the next automatic update will pull all the contacts you just eliminated.

Same issue, using SD instead
I don't know if you found a solution. I am facing the exact same issue on Audi MMI with Samsung Galaxy Note 2. I have been searching up and down and found no clean solution. I am using the SD import workaround. I re-paired my phone and denied the phonebook access so MMI can't download from my phone.

nvius said:
Not sure how many of us here drive an Audi, but figured I'd give this forum a shot. I posted this question in the car forums, but apparently no one uses Android over there, let alone an Evo. I'm not quite sure if this is a phone specific problem or an Android problem.
So Audi's 3G Multimedia Interface (MMI), uses bluetooth to connect/sync my phone contacts from my phone and displays them on my car's Nav screen. From there I can select names, make calls, etc.
The problem is, I believe that the car is pulling "All Contacts" instead of just "My contacts" from Google. This makes it extremely cumbersome as I have an extra 100 contacts to sift through while I'm driving.
However, my phone itself is setup correctly, as I selected "Only contacts with phone numbers".
I realize Audi's management of phone sync may be different from other car makers, but it may also be the similar. Any ideas?
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I've got a 2012 S4 and just bought the Galaxy S4 (my first android phone, switched from iphone5) and i had the exact same problem. i spent the first two days of ownership of the GS4 googling my heart out trying to figure out WTF.
I have found a permanent solution that works for me but, may not work for you all. reason i say that is, if you rely on google or other accounts to manage your contacts, this will not work for you. the problem is gmail/google, by default any and all emails you send/receive are stored as "contacts" in google. regardless of what settings you have on your phone, when you sync your contacts with audi MMI, it pulls all contacts from both phone and google (possibly other email accounts you have syncing to your phone).
what i did was...
1) go into my google accounts (i have two) and went into the settings and told google that i would "manually add" contacts.
2) i then deleted all contacts from all my google accounts.
3) then i turned contact sync "on" on the phone and synced the phone with google.
4) turned contact sync back off.
the following is within the audi MMI... (the audi MMI does NOT store the contacts synced with your phone, it refreshes the contact list every time it connects to the phone, this is why you cannot access the list immediately after ignition is on).
1) unpaired the phone from MMI.
2) deleted all profiles within the NAME/DIRECTORY menu in MMI (if you get to a point where it asks you for your ID PIN (something along those lines), you will need to enter the last 7 digits of your VIN number.
3) i then repaired the phone, and when the prompt on the phone popped up asking for permission to access contacts, clicked yes and selected to not be prompted again.
after it redownloaded the directory from the phone, only contacts i add to the phone showed up.
WARNING, by deleting the profiles, you will also delete any manually added addresses/locations stored from the MMI as well, i personally can live with this.

Android BT Fix for Audi
Hey there...
New to this forum. Here is a fix for the Phonebook sync for Audi MMI / Android phones. It's an app called Bluetooth Phonebook from the Play store. Download it to your phone and voila...it works.
Hope this helps.

lazernet said:
Hey there...
New to this forum. Here is a fix for the Phonebook sync for Audi MMI / Android phones. It's an app called Bluetooth Phonebook from the Play store. Download it to your phone and voila...it works.
Hope this helps.
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Quick question, do you gate The contact picture to show on The mmi with tour galaxy?

[Q] Custom Contact list for BT devices

I recently bought a new car and promptly linked the phone via BT. Unfortunately the Audi MMI can only sort by surname and with the narrow width in the in-dashboard display my recently called list can often look like this...
McConach...
McConach...
McConach...
which is less than helpful
So the question is, is there a way to have a secondary list, linked to my main list, in someway that can file the names as "Darren McConachie" (ie all one name rather than split into first and surname) and pass that to BT devices?

If you go in to contacts on the phone (the contacts app) not dialer. The click he menu button (three dot on top of eachoher) then settings you have some options there which may help.
Be sure to report back and let us know either way.
PS Get a BMW next time LOL

Yeah been through those settings, everything on my phone is sorted by first name! Looks like something I'll just have to get used to!

I have the same issue. In my old phone i was able to do a bluetooth setup to change the way these contacts where transferred. Even though i think this is an Audi problem, it could be worked around if the GN would deliver the contacts in a different format. This would be a matter of changing things inside the bluetooth stack i guess.
:-(
Martin with the new GN
Edit: Maybe i just crossover first names and last names in my exchange account, where this is coming from. I am only accessing it from the PC otherwise and there is an option to change the sorting so maybe i give that a try - pretty dirty workaround though

MyFord Touch - Text and Contact Pics Working!

Just an update to how I got this working in my 2013 Ford Focus with MyFord Touch.
First, CM10 Nightlies has the needed update to Bluetooth Message Access Protocol (MAP) for the MyTouch to properly read text messages as they come in. (whomever did that, thank you!)
Second, it was bugging me that the Nexus wouldn't push the full contact card, to include the contact photo, so I set out to find a way to do this. Getwiththeprogram over on the Sync Owner to Owner forum found this neat little program called Bluetooth File Transfer which has the ability to push contacts, INCLUDING pictures, to the MyFord Touch system. Below is the link. Simply remove your current phone book from the MyFord Touch, disconnect the phone from the system. Then, manually add the phone in the bluetooth settings instead of having it open for other devices to connect, where you put a code in both the phone and then on the MyFord Touch. Once connected, both the Bluetooth File Transfer software and the MyFord Touch software will see each other. Last step, on the bluetooth file software, goto options, more, then send contacts, and select which ones you want to send (all, some, whatever). On the myford touch, select ADD CONTACTS (manually again) and then have the phone push the contacts. You should see the car updating contacts, one by one. The screen will go away, but it's not done, wait for it to come back and say it's complete.
That's it... and to be honest, that took a lot of digging to find, it's not documented very well anywhere.
If you get stuck, just let me know, I might be able to help.
Bluetooth File Transfer

A quick update. I have to correct my previous post. It looks like it's either or... contact pics or mytouch (with updated bluetooth MAP). Because the Bluetooth File Transfer requires a connection to send the contact info (pics) it needs to connect to the mytouch stereo. This is a separate connection from the regular updated MAP bluetooth connection. So, when you try to revert back to the regular connection, you have it's associated contact list (minus the pictures).
I am going to try to write to the folks at CM and see if I can find someone with the knowledge to get this a step closer.
Le sigh...

Thanks for that. I'm picking up my new car in a few weeks. I'm using minco rom. Will report back if it works.

Which nightly are you using? I have a 2013 fusion and I'm on the latest nightly but I can't get the MAP profile to work.
Thanks

So when I look at the info for my phone on the MFT system. I under profiles I see SMS. Is there something I'm missing?
Thanks

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Which nightly are you using? I have a 2013 fusion and I'm on the latest nightly but I can't get the MAP profile to work.
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I just loaded cm-10-20121029 and the MAP functionality broke, again. So I made a decision to just stick with what I know works for sure, regardless of nightly... and went back to the Bluetooth File Transfer app. I'll wait to see if I hear back from the CM10 devs regarding the update to the bluetooth stack. Until then, at least I can show off peoples pics when they call. (LOL, shallow, I know, but I love it!)
The nightly that did get MAP to work for me was cm-10-20121027.

smwein said:
So when I look at the info for my phone on the MFT system. I under profiles I see SMS. Is there something I'm missing?
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In my Focus, I was unable to find a profiles setting.
If you are trying to get it to read texts, the nightly I listed above does it once you load it, don't have to do a thing. (at least I didn't) Still, tonights nightly broke it again. Le sigh... Still, I am glad I got one of the last two things up and running.
Btw, little tip, when (if) you are trying to load a picture for your background, the pic must be exactly 800x384. Any other size and it won't load. Pretty neat once it's in there tho! Now if I can find where to change the loading and closing Ford logo files, lol!

I don't suppose this blue tooth file transfer app would help make Google maps navigation work using the car speakers? The Bluetooth system in my car is called blue and me (fait punto). I'd love this, gets hard to hear the phone speaker over 50mph
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

So I went back to the nightly you said but I still don't get any text message alert. If I switch to AOKP I can send texts from the car but still doesn't read them to me. Any help would be great.
Thanks

I just moved to a new Galaxy Note 2, and everything works... out of the box. Both texts able to be read and pictures showing up with contacts.

I am using CM10 M2 and can confirm that it bluetooth MAP works with my BMW connecteddrive. Of course, only SMS works, no emails.

sorry

Additionally, CM10 M2 also seems to have AVRCP 1.3 and can stream music track NAMES. Stock JB was not able to do that. This tested on BMW .

I figured out how to do.it.
You use the same program as mentioned in first post.
Set up your phone NORMALLY with bluetooth.
THen delete your phonebook in mytouch.
Then go to your phone screen.. then settings...then manage phonebook
Then go to add a contact
Next, GO TO THE ANDROID PHONE.... then open the program, then click the 3 dots and select send contact. Select as many as you want. Then click send as single... then select SYNC...
Watch the contacts upload. Then click on on mytouch...all done!!!!