Hi..
I recently rooted my Desire and tried some various ROMs, but chose to stay with the stock 2.1 untill 2.2 was released OTA.
Today I got the message that I could update OTA, but denied, since I thought I might lose my root and my superuser access.
My question is:
Should I update OTA, or find an official ROM here so I don't lose my root - If so, what ROM should I use?
Can I update without getting a wipe, of can I backup or something before I install 2.2 to not wipe everything?
Best regards, and keep up your great work
YOU SHOULD NOT OTA! as you put it. If you update via ota you will loose root and will be unable to root again. Just download one of these "official" rooted roms and flash via recovery/rom manager. No need to wipe. If the rom is as close to the official one you'll never know you changed roms. Everything will look the same. All your widgets and such will be there. No need to wipe. But if you do have problems you should wipe and reflash. Hope this helps. Have fun!
yeah, but the question is only answered half..
WHICH one of all of those "official" roms should one choose?
I am totally blown away of all the posts, everybody seems to have a froyo rom ready for the masses
Which one is the best?
(I would care for deodexed, old-app2sd, the rest as close to official as possible)
EDIT: I just found "Pinky Desire" by pinkolin. Is this the way to go? Am beeing a bit scared of him openly saying that this is his first, but it seems like this is the only deodexed ROM so far and the other facts look juicy too.. ..anyone?
well first I installed the rom posted by ieftm 'cos it's as close to the official one as possible. I'll just wait a few days until things settle down and then I'll look for another rom.
as far as I understood he added VPN and ext4 support to the rom - I don't know if this could cause anything.. but I think you're right with your other statement..
Just wait a few days until everything settles, should be fairly easy to switch to another ROM and maybe even transfer everything with Titanium Backup or so..
that's the reason I went for that rom. Everything he changed is harmless. No wipe no nothing. And I had everything back the same as before flashing so I didn't need titanium backup or any other backup app. Hm leeDroid lookin' pretty good tho'
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I flashed the rooted 3.36.651.3 ROM when it came out. Now that .6 is out, and 2.2 has been rooted can I accept the .6 OTA? I am not sure what will happen.
I am fully rooted and unlocked. Will I retain root? I prefer not to wipe my phone if I dont have to. Thanks for helping a confused noob!
You're better off flashing the rooted version of .6 instead of doing the OTA. The OTA will unroot you unless you have Unrevoked Forever, but even then, why risk it? Even if you did do the OTA, you COULD unroot, but that would be more of a "oh, crap, I screwed up, at least I can fix it" way of doing things. I'm not super-familiar with what UF actually does, but definitely don't do anything without installing that and switching to S-OFF. Then you can try the .6 OTA. If it works, great. If not, you'll have to use the new root method (and wipe your phone anyway) to downgrade, then you'll HAVE to flash the rooted version or another custom ROM after that to get up to 2.2 again.
Thats what I figured too. I wasnt sure if the OTA would leave the su and various pieces in place or what... Is it safe to flash the .6 rooted over .3 rooted? Suggestions on which version? I prefer to stay as close to stock as I can. Thanks for the quick reply.
^^What he said^^ Here's one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743352
If you want stock, use the stock version. There's one odexed and one deodexed. Don't ask what the difference is, there's already answers to that around. Use the wiki link at the top of each forum to find all the ROMs.
As for flashing up to a new version without wiping, that's up to you. Within the same version (stock to stock) it should be okay, but if you're switching to a custom version, you have to wipe. I do anyway just to make sure there aren't fragments or anything lying around that will screw things up. I'm cautious like that.
netarchy recommends doing a full wipe first. Has anyone done an upgrade over .3 successfully? There also appear to people experiencing issues toward the 56th page.... that was my initial concern in why I was asking about the OTA.
cool, I will flash the one Jim M linked. I have been lurking it for a while. Thanks!
after i rooted last night, i tried to update to the ota, and keep root then, i could download the file, but it would not install, started to, but froze everytime, tried it a few times, and just said forget it.
SilverZero said:
If you want stock, use the stock version. There's one odexed and one deodexed. Don't ask what the difference is, there's already answers to that around. Use the wiki link at the top of each forum to find all the ROMs.
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I was just going to ask that. So I went to the wiki ansd got:
Create the page "Deodexed" on this wiki!
I did a search and came up with:
Search: Keyword(s): deodexed ; Forum: HTC Supersonic: EVO 4G and child forums Showing results 1 to 25 of 170
AH: http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7435282
deodexed = you can change things, such as themes, more easliy transported and packed smaller or changed.
odexed = basic stock
That's it in a nutshell from a nut.
@Gary - I'm waving back, can you see me?
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@Gary - I'm waving back, can you see me?
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Is that you with the bottle in your hand? I think I'll stop at Outback and grab a beer and burger on the way home.
Thanks for all the responses. I was able to use the update and flash right over .3 and now .6 still rooted! I used titanium & rom manager to backup everything in case I needed to roll back. Its been a day without any issues.
You probably get these a lot and I'm sorry for reporting if you have. About 4 days I got an HTC Desire and I know it's only Running Android 2.1 (Eclaire). I've already rooted my phone and what not using the UNrevoked method, and right now it's in the process of loading the Cynagen mod (spell check?), It's been installed correctly, it just seems to be taking a while to load (off topic but is that normal), I Was wondering if there was any possible way to load Froyo onto via mod or and upcoming update. Any step in the right direction, Im new to Android but I do want to become affluent with them.
Alright I got it working, but now unfortunately I just don't think this mod is for me. Is there a way to revert back to the cell phones factory OS?
If you can find an official Cellular ROM you can flash it and revert to stock, unfortunately I don't think there is a leaked one.
I guess I could bring it into my provider and see if they can completely erase and reinstall the operating system, I found an Official Froyo Rom, but I'm having trouble installing it. I installed the radio correctly, but the Official Froyo itselfs keeps aborting.
Keeps saying its 'bad' idk maybe its a bad download but I got it off of XDA.
If you go with a modified software to your provider they may very well decide that your warranty is invalid now.
Can you give a link to the rom you say you've found.
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If you go with a modified software to your provider they may very well decide that your warranty is invalid now.
Can you give a link to the rom you say you've found.
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This is thelike to the ROM to upgrade phone to Froyo 2.2, at this point i want to revert back to the to the stock OS, being supposebly Froyo 2.2 will be here for it in jan, but idk its been postponed 234 times now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
I cant help but feel like im not installing the radio correctly, its talking about using a rom manager but from what i've read ROM MAnager should do jut fine. Either that or Cyanogen isn't wanting it to go away.
Well i found a thread on there forums...
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/9270-stock-us-cellular-rom-request/ According the the posters its not COMPLETELY stock but its close enough. Hopefully Froyo will come soon (hopefully)
Right on the second one worked I might try to install that one on a later day.
Sorry if the title is a little nebulous. I have a G2 that's been S-OFF'd and has cyanogen's BaconBits but not a full CM. I'm getting bugged to install the OTA update which, I'm pretty sure is a Bad Idea without some prep beforehand. My Google-fu and xda search skills are apparently failing me, because I'm sure someone has the scoop.
Can someone point me to a thread or tutorial? If the best answer without having to do full CM is to just decline the OTA, I'm good with that - just tell me how to shut it up! I'm using wireless tether and some other root-required things so I don't want a 100% stock Gingerbread.
Thanks,
Brad
What do u mean "not do a full CM"? You can't just flash part of a rom. And baconbits isn't to be used passed CM 6.1 I believe
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What I meant by "not a full CM" was BaconBits. I had pretty much assumed there was no BaconBits moving forward, so I think my immediate goal is to just keep what I have. Is there a way to "turn off" the update nagging?
Brad
How the hell are you even getting updates? Which rom exactly are you using? And unless you don't want root anymore you should definitely not install it. But know that just incase you accidentally do install it there is an exploit now. But I would probably verify that you really have s-off and root access and reinstall your rom.
I currently have the stock ROM with S-OFF and cyanogen's old "BaconBits" add-on, released prior to anyone creating custom ROMs. I'm considering one of the stock-but-rooted Gingerbread roms, but for now, I just want to block updates. Suggestions?
Brad
Same here..I'm fully stock rooted with s off and tp wake mod only..I don't want to upgrade bc none of the updates are really stock( all these pure stock ones all have things removed or other tweeks)..I like my phone the way it is and just want to not get bugged for updating..what do?
I'm pretty sure if you edit the build.prop to say HTC Vision instead of T-Mobile G2 the update notifications will cease. Use something like Root Explorer to navigate to /system and then edit the line that says "ro.product.model=T-Mobile G2". It'll be like the 15th line down.
I can't guarantee it'll work but it's worth a try.
Why don't you just get the stock rooted update from here in the dev section? That'd be just as easy and then you'd actually have the update as well.
Stock Gingerbread OTA
Yeap.. I found that thread after some searching and upgraded, upgraded the radio, did the gps fix, fix permission.. and its working fine no wipe no nothing. Only thing Im missing is my track pad wake. Also to the op.. I think if you uninstall the app updater with uninstaller for root you wont get bugged for the update any longer.
Also even after upgrading to 2.3.4 it was still telling me there was an update.. I had to update the radio for it to go away..so maybe a radio update is all youll need op
i have a similar question. i'm also on stock 2.2, never did any OTA's and also have baconbits (flashing LED when message waiting, etc.)
what i would like to know, if i update to gingerbread, will i be able to install baconbits over gingerbread or not? i just want to keep a stock rom.
thanks!
konoplya said:
i have a similar question. i'm also on stock 2.2, never did any OTA's and also have baconbits (flashing LED when message waiting, etc.)
what i would like to know, if i update to gingerbread, will i be able to install baconbits over gingerbread or not? i just want to keep a stock rom.
thanks!
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Baconbits if for 2.2 only; as it was abandoned when CM nightlies started. You might try Pershoot's kernel with stock 2.3 or just go all the way and get CM7.
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Well, in the final analysis, I decided to go "all in". I realized after looking through the wiki that I had "label S-OFF" and not "radio S-OFF", and figured this could be an issue later on. So, I followed the instructions to get "radio S-OFF" and then tried to update my Clockwork recovery to the latest 3.x version; it didn't work (wouldn't boot into recovery). So, I tried an older version of 3.x (the one I had prior was a 2.5 something), and that did work.
Since I then had a fresh, fully rooted device as an starting point (with nandroid backup, of course), I decided to go for the gusto and install CM7. I had the foresight to do a Titanium Backup of my apps, but what I forgot to do was save my call log and SMS messages. So, I decided to exercise that nandroid backup; restored my 2.2 with BaconBits, saved the SMS and call log, then restored my CM7 that I had just saved 30 minutes before, and restored the SMS and call log. All of it worked like a champ.
So, I'm jammin' on the CM7, it's faster and better than my 2.2 with BaconBits, so I'm happy. I'll probably leave it like this until CM8, if there is such, and if it runs on G2.
Brad
Hi Everyone,
Im looking for a little help on going from my rooted droid x2 (gingerbreak root) to stock gingerbread, which I can then re-root with the MotorolaOneClickRoot.
They explicitly say that it doesnt have great results with OTA gingerbread coming from a rooted froyo, so I figure it would be safest to go to stock gingerbread.
My question would be... Since gingerbreak has an "unroot" option, can I just unroot the gingerbreak and get the OTA update for gingerbread? I was told by someone I have to SBF into the stock gingerbread, but would the unroot -> ota update be essentially the same thing?
That was my plan, but if there is an easier way to go from gingerbreak rooted froyo to rooted gingerbread, im open to suggestions.
Thanks!
*edit: just a note - I did try to search for answers on the forums, and im still searching for answers, but im having a hard time finding this specific situation. I would rather do the OTA update if possible, since I know next to nothing about installing custom roms etc. If I HAVE to do that, a link would help also. I apologize if the question has been answered before... I just want to have a pretty good idea what to do before I get into it.
Hi,
You probably should have posted this in the Droid X2 subforums, but that's okay. I would recommend installing bootstrap recovery if you haven't already, and then backup your entire phone using nandroid in recovery. (This way you don't loose anything--but if you don't care, you can skip over this) And then grab RSD Lite, and the latest leaked SBF and flash it (links below). You will loose root, so yes, you will need Pete's One Click. Flashing the SBF does not wipe your data. So all of your stuff should stay, however, if you get bootloops, you will need to boot into stock recovery and wipe /data.
There's another OTA coming out soon, and it would just be a waste of time to update to 2.3.3. and then wait for the next OTA. The 2.3.3 version has severe problems that flashing the latest SBF does NOT have. This is why I am recommending that you flash the latest 2.3.4 SBF and skip over the OTA crap. Btw, installing roms is really not all that hard.
Resources:
Latest SBF
RSD Lite 5.5
Drivers [64bit, 32bit]
Refer to this guide, if you don't know how to flash an SBF (it's super easy). Just do NOT install the RSD Lite versions he lists in the post. It's too old.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks for your time to post those links overmind. I understand its a pain in the ass to keep posting the same stuff all the time (I do it myself on other topics).
I can follow instructions easy enough, but they need to be very low level. When people reply with directions like "Flash to the latest SBF" it really doesnt help me, but the links you provided look easy enough to follow.
Hello,
I would like to create a full stock backup, I do not care for applications or settings, the only thing I want is full non-rooter, current Gingerbread with ability to install possible upcoming OTA updates.
The reason for this is simple, I want to try out different ICS roms just for fun and then go back to original, HTC Sense 2.1 powered rom.
The question is: How do I do that? I know I can handle rooting the device and installing various things but how do I get back?
Thanks!
PS A link with instructions on how to do that would be nice, I tried searching the forums and Google but nothing legit came out.
If you have already rooted your phone and installed a recovery such as ClockworkMod or 4EXT, reboot into recovery and go to the "Backup" menu and make a full backup.
In the event of problems, you can do a full wipe or factory reset, and then go to the same backup/restore menu to restore your backup from the SD card.
But if the phone is Gingerbread (it is) I have to downgrade first, correct? To Froyo 2.2. So Basically that leaves me with a copy of 2.2 while my phone came with Gingerbread in the first place.
It basically shows that I've changed (downgraded) the software, doesn't it?
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But if the phone is Gingerbread (it is) I have to downgrade first, correct? To Froyo 2.2. So Basically that leaves me with a copy of 2.2 while my phone came with Gingerbread in the first place.
It basically shows that I've changed (downgraded) the software, doesn't it?
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If you have ALREADY rooted it, then there is no need to be downgrading back to an exploitable firmware when you've already exploited the phone. If all you're doing is installing a custom rom on an already rooted/unlocked phone then you need only flash the roms via recovery.
You would only have to downgrade the firmware if you for some reason decided to flash the original stock firmware, hboot, etc onto the phone.
But that's least as far as the backups go.
In terms of how to get the phone back to non-root/locked state there's a sticky/wiki for that, though I would find it to be a pain in the butt to have the phone rooted and unlocked and then have to go thru the process of locking it back up only to possibly risk bricking it. The more times you mess with the firmware/radio/hboot the more likely you are to brick it.
Just to make it all clear my phone is kinda new, was never rooted, that's why I'm asking. I still can't believe that HTC doesn't have an app like Xperia has, SEUS to be exact, you can fix any phone with one click. By saying fix I mean install the latest, official rom.
That's too bad there is no other way to root Desire Z.
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Just to make it all clear my phone is kinda new, was never rooted, that's why I'm asking. I still can't believe that HTC doesn't have an app like Xperia has, SEUS to be exact, you can fix any phone with one click. By saying fix I mean install the latest, official rom.
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If never rooted there's not much of a way to make a full backup first (since most backup tools like Titanium Backup requires root).
That's too bad there is no other way to root Desire Z.
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Well there is the HTCDev unlocker from HTC themselves, but you actually have better luck following something like cyanogenmod's wiki entry.
Something like this works quite well : http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Vision
You just need to make sure to triple-check all the numbers and messages, someone accidentally skipping 2 or 3 steps multiple times is just asking for problems.
But once rooted (like for my G2 I followed the cyanogenmod steps, and then went another step by upgrading my radio to the latest, I just went with a different rom after being rooted) it's usually best to keep it that way even if you decide to just flash the stock rom (i.e.: still rooted and unlocked, but simply using the original software they provide you, which can be rooted simply by having the su binary and superuser app).
The voiding of warranty usually applies to software, i.e.: you bricked the phone as a result of flashing the wrong hboot. Where as if the screen or eMMC dies, it's a hardware failure and shouldn't be voided simply because the phone was rooted (unless of course they determined you fried your CPU by running the phone at 1.9Ghz constantly).
You could just download a full version of the G2 gingerbread rom from shipped-roms.com and flash that if you ever want/need to go back to stock gingerbread.
-Nipqer