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[Q] What is Rosie? Is it just a theme?

Sorry, newb question. What does Rosie mean and why would I want to try different versions? Droid INc, SR 3.3.2, 2.15 radio, stock kernel. I've looked at screenshots of different rosie versions, but it just looks like minor appearance and launcher changes. Isn't that sort of what I get with a new rom anyhow?

Rosie, in simplest terms, is the launcher that appears at the bottom of the screen, above the home/menu/back/search buttons - opinions vary on her extent, but nominally that's who she is.

So then what's the big deal with Rosie if launcher pro makes that so easy?
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If you modify Rosie, you can tweak the default Sense launcher to look the way you want, AND stilll have access to the HTC widgets.

mikeymop said:
If you modify Rosie, you can tweak the default Sense launcher to look the way you want, AND stilll have access to the HTC widgets.
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I guess I'm still confused, as you can still change the launcher and still have access to htc widgets without modifying rosie. Is it a theme? Is is a full Sense UI replacement? I'm just not grasping it.

From all I've gathered through this community, Rosie is like a theme on steroids - HTC uses it as a key piece of branding across nearly all their devices. In addition to being the main user interface in terms of widgets, buttons, launcher, etc it also includes an number of hooks and tweaks into core Android itself designed to make the experience more friendly for non-geek users (no insult implied!).
There are two main camps when it comes to Rosie - some dislike it since it adds bulk to the simplicity of vanilla Android, while some others love it for it's prettier user experience and all its widgets. I personally am in the former camp and have learned to love AOSP vanilla.
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kjjb0204 said:
I guess I'm still confused, as you can still change the launcher and still have access to htc widgets without modifying rosie. Is it a theme? Is is a full Sense UI replacement? I'm just not grasping it.
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Actually, you can't. If you change the launcher to something like Launcher Pro (which I <3), you can't use the stock HTC Widgets for FriendStream, Mail or more popularly that beautiful 4x2 Weather+Clock. Granted, if you buy Launcher Pro Plus you can get very similar social widgets, and if want that clock Beautiful Widgets is the way to go if you ditch Rosie for LPP.
Rosie, in simplest terms, is the black bar at the bottom of your homescreen. She gives you access to your app drawer, dialer and settings - and if you take her away, she takes the HTC Widgets with her. However, all other HTC Sense UI elements, such as the lockscreen or the black status bar all stay in place.
Rosie is just the launcher. She is in charge of your homescreens.
As previously mentioned, the reason people modify her is they don't want to lose the HTC Widgets for whatever reason (too cheap for LPP + BW?), but they want to have a custom look or replace the settings option with say the browser.
That clear it up?

Zoon0n said:
Actually, you can't. If you change the launcher to something like Launcher Pro (which I <3), you can't use the stock HTC Widgets for FriendStream, Mail or more popularly that beautiful 4x2 Weather+Clock. Granted, if you buy Launcher Pro Plus you can get very similar social widgets, and if want that clock Beautiful Widgets is the way to go if you ditch Rosie for LPP.
Rosie, in simplest terms, is the black bar at the bottom of your homescreen. She gives you access to your app drawer, dialer and settings - and if you take her away, she takes the HTC Widgets with her. However, all other HTC Sense UI elements, such as the lockscreen or the black status bar all stay in place.
Rosie is just the launcher. She is in charge of your homescreens.
As previously mentioned, the reason people modify her is they don't want to lose the HTC Widgets for whatever reason (too cheap for LPP + BW?), but they want to have a custom look or replace the settings option with say the browser.
That clear it up?
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Did for me.... Thanks

Zoon0n said:
Actually, you can't. If you change the launcher to something like Launcher Pro (which I <3), you can't use the stock HTC Widgets for FriendStream, Mail or more popularly that beautiful 4x2 Weather+Clock. Granted, if you buy Launcher Pro Plus you can get very similar social widgets, and if want that clock Beautiful Widgets is the way to go if you ditch Rosie for LPP.
Rosie, in simplest terms, is the black bar at the bottom of your homescreen. She gives you access to your app drawer, dialer and settings - and if you take her away, she takes the HTC Widgets with her. However, all other HTC Sense UI elements, such as the lockscreen or the black status bar all stay in place.
Rosie is just the launcher. She is in charge of your homescreens.
As previously mentioned, the reason people modify her is they don't want to lose the HTC Widgets for whatever reason (too cheap for LPP + BW?), but they want to have a custom look or replace the settings option with say the browser.
That clear it up?
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Absolutely. Thank you! The term Rosie didn't come up on any Android glossaries I found online. You should submit your description...
On a side note, I was a devout BB user for years and I feel like a kid again learning this whole new OS from scratch. I was as deep into BB as many of you are in Android, so just making the change was a huge leap. Some people close to me think I'm obsessed with technology, but for me it's what I find interesting and fun and challenging.

[Q] AOSP and sense widgets?

whats up ppl i was just wondering if is it possible to have a AOSP rom wit the sense widgets (flip clock, sync all, settings, etc) cuz lets be real the AOSP widgets are wake and if it is can u tell me how to cuz im a new in this and thnx in adv.
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Pay version of launcher pro has widgets similar to sense with the exception of the clock.
For the clock, you need the pay versions of either Beautiful Widgets of Fancy Widgets. I know for sure Fancy Widgets has skins to make the clock look identical to the sense clock. It also has screen on animations and weather animations when you open the weather.
A number of third party messenger and calendar apps also have their own widgets.

jstalford said:
Pay version of launcher pro has widgets similar to sense with the exception of the clock.
For the clock, you need the pay versions of either Beautiful Widgets of Fancy Widgets. I know for sure Fancy Widgets has skins to make the clock look identical to the sense clock. It also has screen on animations and weather animations when you open the weather.
A number of third party messenger and calendar apps also have their own widgets.
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yea i was watching a video on youtube of fancy widgets but the animation when u unlock the phone does not work right and a another Q how do u put the signature (like the one u have after the line ) in here cuz i been looking around in my profile and i dont see any part for signature

Screen unlock animation worked fine for me. I think beautiful widgets has one too. Neither are as good as sense though. Worth the sacrifice for me though since I don't really like Sense.
Look under quick links at the top of the screen. One of them is edit sig.

[Q] What launcher do you suggest?

Hey guys and girls this will be my first android device and reading up on all the apps and widgets is a little daunting.
So this is the question : im going to be changing my dock icons because they remind me to much of my current Iphone 4, So i need a launcher?
What launcher does everyone suggest i try out and why?
I dont mind paying for a launcher just as long as its not to buggy or a memory/power hog.
Thanks in advance.

i'm going to go for LP Sense:
https://market.android.com/details?id=fr.clockwidget.lpslatesense
runs great on my Hero...just need to get a SGS2

why use a different launcher off the block.. try the new twiz 4 launcher that comes with it first for a while..

I personally like ADW EX i like the swipe animations and the overall feel of it on my EVO. I have seen it run slowly on lower power devices. The level of customizations that are available to the user is amazing. And you can get it for free in some Roms. Thats how i stumbled upon it. It has several ways to anaimate screen swipes. But if you want a true 3d effect try shell 3d. I dont know of a way to get it for free but i did try it out for a while and it was pretty cool, but it even felt kind of slow on my evo.

Ive gone with slide screen its beautiful, how about a lock screen, this drag the background thing is so poor
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Try LauncherPro.. The best in my opinion

I tried launcher pro and finds its not smooth atm on this phone, it feels a bit jerky when going in to the apps window.

Jabbypants said:
I tried launcher pro and finds its not smooth atm on this phone, it feels a bit jerky when going in to the apps window.
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That's weird, it's flawlessly smooth on my Galaxy S 1. However, if you're using a live wallpaper then the transition into the app drawer (and then scrolling through it) is stuttery.
Apart from that, I'd throw my vote to LauncherPro too, especially if you buy the Plus version.
Reasons:
- Easily resize widgets and change homescreen grid sizes
- Virtual looping of homescreens (get to the end and it'll flick back to the farthest, no need to scroll all the way back)
- Homescreen transitions (instead of boring sideways scrolling can have 3D flips or the widgets rotate away)
- 'Plus' adds lots of extremely handy smooth, scrollable widgets almsot identical to what HTC Sense provides
- These widgets have now been made theme-able as of the latest update
- Can use in landscape or portrait
- Scrollable dock (scroll through 3 docks of 5 icons each)
- Dock icons and background can be changed, so my icons look like WP7's
- Can set an action for swiping up from any dock icon (eg: touching Internet icon launches the browser, but swiping the Internet icon instead displays a list of bookmarks!)
- On my Galaxy S was smoother for me than ADW

minty1978 said:
i'm going to go for LP Sense:
https://market.android.com/details?id=fr.clockwidget.lpslatesense
runs great on my Hero...just need to get a SGS2
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I'm going to use the wp live wallpaper so I don't need a clock, but I do like the animated weather on wake up ( reminds me of my HD2 love you forever and ever ) so that sounds like a good pick.
what about go launcher ? any thoughts?
And I've seen touch wiz in vids I like the tiled widgets but I dislike the dock icons looking like iPhone. so can I Change the dock icons to stock android without a launcher?

Jabbypants said:
I tried launcher pro and finds its not smooth atm on this phone, it feels a bit jerky when going in to the apps window.
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Its pretty smooth on mine apart from the pinch to zoom for homescreen preview.
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NIK516 said:
And I've seen touch wiz in vids I like the tiled widgets but I dislike the dock icons looking like iPhone. so can I Change the dock icons to stock android without a launcher?
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No I dun think so. You would need to use another launcher if the dock is definitely a no-go for you.
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I'm using go launcher atm but I'm also a big launcherpro fan
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minty1978 said:
i'm going to go for LP Sense:
https://market.android.com/details?id=fr.clockwidget.lpslatesense
runs great on my Hero...just need to get a SGS2
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why
fancy widgets is a lot more customizable, has that skin, plus a lot more features lol

mrvirginia said:
why
fancy widgets is a lot more customizable, has that skin, plus a lot more features lol
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i actually don't use the LP Sense clock, I use FancyWidgets, like you say...far more customisable.
See screen shot:

My suggestion
What about the VTL Launcher 1.6.2 ??

It's a matter of taste really, GO Launcher, LauncherPro and ADW are all great. SPB Shell 3D is good if you like eye candy, but pretty expensive.
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minty1978 said:
i actually don't use the LP Sense clock, I use FancyWidgets, like you say...far more customisable.
See screen shot:
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can you set the weather widget and have the animation, like rain but have the widget invisible?
I just want to see my wp clock wallpaper and have the weather show like the clouds and the rain and thunder but not see the widget? if you cant ill settle for picking a small widget?
Thanks again for all the replys guys they are helping a tone.
Also what launcher has more icon themes ?

Launcherpro for me. Smooth as silk, really quick and it just works...

Launcher pro is not as smooth as before with sgs2. it was better on my htc desire.

I have been using AWD EX as not being able to change the messaging for Chomp SMS on the touchwiz was driving me mad. But I am getting cronic lag on switching screens. Not all the time. Just often enough to be anoying. Reading what others have been saying, I can only assume we need to tweek the phone a bit.

[Q] Fixed Widgets

Is it possible to change the fixed widgets on this phone (Menu - Phone - Settings) and their icons, WITHOUT having to change your launcher - I seem to like the basic launcher (having tried about 3 or 4 now) and they all allow you to customise the fixed widgets but is this possible in the standard non customised model and if so how..?
OR is there a Launcher that will allow you to access ALL of the basic HTC widget as I quite like some of them like the expanded message and agenda page.. cheers..

Is this on a Sense ROM?

This is on the standard (as it comes) ROM. I have changed nothing and telephone was purchased new approx 2 weeks ago so its on release 2.2.1
Thanks..

You mean the dock buttons, and no theres no way change them (although if you download skins on htc hub you can get a skin that has the dock with another color and the blackboard skin makes the dock squared)
Other choice that you have is getting the full version of launcher pro, and get the fancy widget from the market
The full version of launcher pro has a "friends" widget that kinda looks like the friend stream widget, also it has a contacts widget that looks like the people widget, the dont look as good as the htc original ones but it can be an alternative
And the fancy widget app is the weather clock widget from htc alternative except it doesnt have the weather animation
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nonione said:
You mean the dock buttons, and no theres no way change them (although if you download skins on htc hub you can get a skin that has the dock with another color and the blackboard skin makes the dock squared)
Other choice that you have is getting the full version of launcher pro, and get the fancy widget from the market
The full version of launcher pro has a "friends" widget that kinda looks like the friend stream widget, also it has a contacts widget that looks like the people widget, the dont look as good as the htc original ones but it can be an alternative
And the fancy widget app is the weather clock widget from htc alternative except it doesnt have the weather animation
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Thanks, I have the full version of Launch Pro and yes it does what you say but it would not let me use some of the HTC sense widget which I also liked.. pity..

Why is HTC Sense 3.0 better than GO Launcher?

I've got a rooted and deodexed Inc2 running Virtuous Unitity 2.39. Ihave the HTC Sense 3.0 it comes with as well as GO Launcher...and have Home Switcher App to change from one to the other.
It seems to me that having the 5 button selection bar on the bottom (that can be swiped and added to unlimited times) is so much more efficient use of space and provides better choice that it removes any rationale to have anything like HTC Sense with it's standard three choices (and only two which are really used much).
What am I missing? Why can't others have the great lower selection choices of GO Launcher (is it correct calling this the Rosie bar?)? What does the HTC Sense give me that is more functional and useable?
The VU2.3.9 runs fine and was a clean and easy install.

If you change the launcher from Sense to something else, don't you lose the other Sense add-ons like the Weather Widget, Lock Screen and Themes?

You do lose the sense Widgets but like go and launcher pro they have built in Widgets. The lockscreen is an additional apk. Themes will stick as far as status bar goes. Also launcher pro, adw, and go launcher have downloadable themes.
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If you change the launcher from Sense to something else, don't you lose the other Sense add-ons like the Weather Widget, Lock Screen and Themes?
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No with launcher pro plus
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The only reason I use Sense 3.0 is for the gadgets and the purdy interface, I would have switch to something else like the gingervanilla, other AOSP or RMK debloated stock rom if I were to use Go launcher.

You do lose some Sense widgets, but the lockout screen stays tied to Sense. For example, I have the weather on the lockout screen, but even when I switch to GO, the lockout screen after has the fancy weather animation.
I get a "sense" that there is not really a reason to deal with the HTC Sense launcher other than looks, but if I am wrong, let me know where.
I do know that I love having the 5 button rosie which I can spin to more 5 button rosies at the bottom. Much better use of screen real estate.

Sense is nice and its all preference

Can you know to me what's this your theme ?
i like the battery...Im using ROM BAMF...so Can I use this theme?

knipp21 said:
No with launcher pro plus
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Are you sayin that running LauncherPro Plus over Sense you can still load the Sense widgets, and they work?

TheAtheistReverend said:
Are you sayin that running LauncherPro Plus over Sense you can still load the Sense widgets, and they work?
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No launcher pro plus has the "sense" widgets built into the launcher. They are look alike
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I didn't like the sense-like Widgets. They didn't have the same feel as the real thing. But I do still prefer LP to anything else including Sense (most of the time)
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I think that is a loaded question. My thinking is Sense is for people that like Sense and AOSP roms are for people that don't care for it. I'm just trying to make things simple.

IMO, sense feels more professional, while anything else is for enthusiasts. And the Widgets in lpp are cool and all, but really they are a joke compared to the sense Widgets. And the intergration is nice too, something aosp hasn't done yet.
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devator22 said:
IMO, sense feels more professional, while anything else is for enthusiasts. And the Widgets in lpp are cool and all, but really they are a joke compared to the sense Widgets. And the intergration is nice too, something aosp hasn't done yet.
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I actually don't care for the Sense widgets or the Rosie launcher at all. I use the Pure Messenger widget from the Market, and while it's not as pretty as a Sense widget, it combines e-mail, text/sms messages, phone calls, facebook and twitter into a single messaging widget as opposed to Sense's separate widgets for each.
As for the launcher, I just can't justify dedicating the whole bottom of the screen to 2 buttons - the app drawer and the phone button. The customize button is stupid, once you have the phone set up the way you like, that button is largely useless.
Of course, these are just my opinions, but to me, Sense is far from superior/more professional than anything else.

The Clock with weather is the main reason most stick to Sense, it has a cleaned look/feel that add to the homescreen. I personally can't do AOSP I miss the weather clock from sense until I switch back, I love unlocking my phone to a new animation

Weselers said:
The Clock with weather is the main reason most stick to Sense, it has a cleaned look/feel that add to the homescreen. I personally can't do AOSP I miss the weather clock from sense until I switch back, I love unlocking my phone to a new animation
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Fancy widget pro is better than the sense clock, you can get the senseclock, plus tons of different themed clocks, that is what i use. I like the sense photo album widget, which is pretty much the only widget that doesn't have a replacement app. I can't say i enjoy sense when very much and i usually run an AOSP rom (omfgb currently) but have a couple nice sense rom backups on my phone for when I'm itching to use sense.