Yes I searched for this but got lost...sorry!
So I unrooted my EVO to prepare for the upcoming froyo update. PRI is the 1.3 one...am I just hoping that it upgrades the PRI to 1.4 or should I wait to install froyo until PRI FIX!
A better question is why the f%$^ would you unroot your phone?
this doesnt belong in the dev forum however. Currently there is no known way to fix your PRI. Including updating to froyo at least the version floating around now.
not sure why you would unroot your phone you can already put a root friendly version of froyo on your phone so no need to wait.
Thanks for the input. Not sure why this would not belong here when rooting is the PRI culprit to start with? Anyways I unrooted simply because after experimenting...it is just not for me. I don't feel any further justification is needed. My question was a simple one for a true developer I thought. I guess I will just update the OTA FROYO and cross my fingers?
cardiox said:
Thanks for the input. Not sure why this would not belong here when rooting is the PRI culprit to start with? Anyways I unrooted simply because after experimenting...it is just not for me. I don't feel any further justification is needed. My question was a simple one for a true developer I thought. I guess I will just update the OTA FROYO and cross my fingers?
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Hey, I bet this would be better accepted over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=652
Unrooted android = iPhone with smaller market and widgets, lol
Some suggestions for asking where your question should go:
- Where did you get the PRI/etc.? Maybe you should post in that thread.
- Since you're using a stock ROM and I'm sure you d/l'd it from somewhere, maybe you should post in that thread
- Your question might be best answered by a developer but it's not "development"
Just my 0.02c.
Seriously omegasun18 why would you unroot your ph, u should know it's only a matter of time when our good old buddies here post a custom rom base on the official update. You can go ahead and install/ update to 2.2 if you want. Am still rooted and running the stock 2.2, my PRI is 1.34_003, have not en-counted any issue at this point..
cardiox said:
Thanks for the input. Not sure why this would not belong here when rooting is the PRI culprit to start with? Anyways I unrooted simply because after experimenting...it is just not for me. I don't feel any further justification is needed. My question was a simple one for a true developer I thought. I guess I will just update the OTA FROYO and cross my fingers?
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I hope you know that if you do ota update of FROYO will not be able to root for a while.
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ek9manr said:
I hope you know that if you do ota update of FROYO will not be able to root for a while.
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UH...I never thought about it that way! That was good advice for sure as my real plans would have been to have original froyo that I could explore and thus if I rooted, then I would have a better feel for which way to go. I still would like to go this route as a personal way to go but have concerns with that PRI 1.3 still...
I used simple 1.47.651.1 to root and Htc Android update utility 1.02.10 to get back to 1.47 unroot. Only thing not original is the 1.3 PRI...
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You can go ahead and install/ update to 2.2 if you want. Am still rooted and running the stock 2.2, my PRI is 1.34_003, have not en-counted any issue at this point..
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I guess this "at this point" is where I get a bad vibe...kinda like the root gods are warning me...LOL!!! A rooted 1.47 with 1.3 PRI getting the OTA froyo has just plain got me spooked.
cardiox said:
UH...I never thought about it that way! That was good advice for sure as my real plans would have been to have original froyo that I could explore and thus if I rooted, then I would have a better feel for which way to go. I still would like to go this route as a personal way to go but have concerns with that PRI 1.3 still...
I used simple 1.47.651.1 to root and Htc Android update utility 1.02.10 to get back to 1.47 unroot. Only thing not original is the 1.3 PRI...
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As far as I know, there is no downside to the 1.34 PRI compared to the one with the higher number.
TheBundo said:
As far as I know, there is no downside to the 1.34 PRI compared to the one with the higher number.
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Maybe not for you specifically or some others, but there is deff a difference and it does effect some users in some areas.
Heres a link to the PRI thread where it has been discussed in the Q&A section for you to read up on and see the things the PRI actually does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712824
Maybe the OTA Froyo this week will just include the 1.4 PRI and that will be that. I am gonna try it and if I blow up then I won't do it again...Hahahaha!!!
sgt. slaughter said:
Maybe not for you specifically or some others, but there is deff a difference and it does effect some users in some areas.
Heres a link to the PRI thread where it has been discussed in the Q&A section for you to read up on and see the things the PRI actually does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712824
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thanks SGT...good read for sure
cardiox said:
Maybe the OTA Froyo this week will just include the 1.4 PRI and that will be that. I am gonna try it and if I blow up then I won't do it again...Hahahaha!!!
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You could simply wait for a rooted release to be given here. It will be the same rom, only you won't possibly be perma-****ed. You could give it a try, see if it updates the PRI, and if it doesn't then you could install the official OTA. Just realize, you could easily be closing the door to root forever and you have no way of knowing.
cardiox said:
Maybe the OTA Froyo this week will just include the 1.4 PRI and that will be that. I am gonna try it and if I blow up then I won't do it again...Hahahaha!!!
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OTA v1.47 included PRI 1.40, as does OTA froyo. The newly released froyo does not update PRI beyond 1.40 which was included before in OTA 1.47.
Saturn2K said:
You could simply wait for a rooted release to be given here. It will be the same rom, only you won't possibly be perma-****ed. You could give it a try, see if it updates the PRI, and if it doesn't then you could install the official OTA. Just realize, you could easily be closing the door to root forever and you have no way of knowing.
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If you are root you will have PRI 1.34. PERIOD. PRI is tied to HBOOT, and the only rooted HBOOT we have is the ENG HBOOT with PRI 1.34. I've you still have a hardon to change your PRI, the only way it's going to happen is if you are NOT ROOT.
As far as I know I am not rooted...HBOOT 0.79.0000...and connectbot denies adb permissions etc. The only change from stock is that PRI 1.3 which has my data transfer all whacked up...and very inconsistent. Some say the PRI has little weight in the Android scheme of things but on my end it does in a big way...
If infact you have to have 1.3 to root then I guess I am only left with taking my chance that the OTA updates the PRI to 1.4. I live in the area where hurricane Katrina busted us up and this may have a direct impact on why my particular setup runs better with the newer PRI.
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OTA v1.47 included PRI 1.40, as does OTA froyo. The newly released froyo does not update PRI beyond 1.40 which was included before in OTA 1.47.
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This is incorrect. No update includes any PRI except for the eng-HBOOT. And the PRI included with it is 1.34. Check your facts, because someone follow you blindly.
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If you are root you will have PRI 1.34. PERIOD. PRI is tied to HBOOT, and the only rooted HBOOT we have is the ENG HBOOT with PRI 1.34. I've you still have a hardon to change your PRI, the only way it's going to happen is if you are NOT ROOT.
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Wrong again. Once you root using the eng-HBOOT you will have PRI 1.34, whether or not you are rooted. Sprint has not released the 1.40 PRI yet, and know one knows when they will. I pretty sure if the new 2.2 froyo update included PRI 1.40, everyone experiencing issues with PRI 1.34 would have found their solution.
So to sum it up. Once you have 1.34 you are stuck with 1.34, unless you return your phone or a dev gets someone in sprint to release the 1.40 PRI.
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As far as I know I am not rooted...HBOOT 0.79.0000...and connectbot denies adb permissions etc. The only change from stock is that PRI 1.3 which has my data transfer all whacked up...and very inconsistent. Some say the PRI has little weight in the Android scheme of things but on my end it does in a big way...
If infact you have to have 1.3 to root then I guess I am only left with taking my chance that the OTA updates the PRI to 1.4. I live in the area where hurricane Katrina busted us up and this may have a direct impact on why my particular setup runs better with the newer PRI.
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I had the same issue with 1.34, many on this forum and other forums have the same issue that you are reporting, but those that do not have the issue say that there is none. I would take back the phone, and since you will have 1.47 software when you get your new phone, only do unrevoked3 method or keep it stock.
When I had PRI 1.34 my speeds and connectivity was horrible 20Kbps to 90Kbps was on a good day. With my new phone and PRI 1.40 my speeds and connectivity are phenomenal with .96Mbps to 1.4Mbps on a bad day.
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When I had PRI 1.34 my speeds and connectivity was horrible 20Kbps to 90Kbps was on a good day. With my new phone and PRI 1.40 my speeds and connectivity are phenomenal with .96Mbps to 1.4Mbps on a bad day.
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I feel ya for sure on this...much like mine now! I now realize this post probably better fit in the Q/A area and I apologize for that. I also would like to thank you all for the comments as I can see much more clearly this issue.
I am still considering the OTA froyo and see if it updates...if not then I will try a new one and wait to root until a better handle on the PRI is obtained.
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Seriously omegasun18 why would you unroot your ph, u should know it's only a matter of time when our good old buddies here post a custom rom base on the official update. You can go ahead and install/ update to 2.2 if you want. Am still rooted and running the stock 2.2, my PRI is 1.34_003, have not en-counted any issue at this point..
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i didnt unroot my phone i was asking why he would lol
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What is the correct PRI version with the 1.47.651.1 firmware? I have 1.34_003, but I've seen some people posting they have 1.40_003. I'm wondering if there is any difference in the "first" and "second" updates that people are downloading? Is it hardware version related? My hardware version is 0002. My PRL is 60667.
I have hardware version 0002 as well, and show PRI 1.40_003, with PRL of 60665.
Interesting that it's a little different out there.
I am 002 hardware with 1.40.003 and prl ending in 667.
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Anyone have any input on the difference in the two PRI versions?
I am also... 002 hardware with 1.40.003 and prl ending in 667.
i originally had the 1.40.003 on my stock rom..but after rooting and unlocking nand..it got downgraded to 1.34.003. Currently there is no way to manually update the PRI. It has to be built into the rom according to toastcfg post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6845492&postcount=75
Interesting... Wonder why people with the same hardware revision and firmware have different version PRIs...
roshambo said:
Interesting... Wonder why people with the same hardware revision and firmware have different version PRIs...
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From my understanding the PRI 1.40_003 is for stock or Stock Root and the PRI 1.34_003 was part of the downgrade to be able to unlock the NAND protection even though it does not directly relate to it.
dwertz said:
From my understanding the PRI 1.40_003 is for stock or Stock Root and the PRI 1.34_003 was part of the downgrade to be able to unlock the NAND protection even though it does not directly relate to it.
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Interesting theory! Sprint would be able to tell if the phone had been previously rooted if this is true!
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From my understanding the PRI 1.40_003 is for stock or Stock Root and the PRI 1.34_003 was part of the downgrade to be able to unlock the NAND protection even though it does not directly relate to it.
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yes the stock rom has the 1.40 and the nand unlock rom has the older 1.34
Differences between PRI 1.34_003 & 1.40_003?
Differences between PRI 1.34_003 & 1.40_003?
Does anyone know the difference of these two versions? Someone said it's the Primary Roaming Index, will it affect the performance of the phone itself? I've searched this forum and no one has answered this question before.
I have part-2 root and using stock rooted .6 rom, deleted some system apps myself, and applied the rooted OTA update, i can still use all the features of the phone like 3G-4G, (I noticed it was harder to get a 4G connection since OTA update) but don't know if they are faster or slower than stock, can anyone share some insight?
Is there a way to back out of part-2 root to get the 1.40_003 to test out?
I just posted a somewhat similar question in the Q&A section. I have updated everything (PRL, baseband, wimax, etc.) EXCEPT PRI version. I'm also wondering if updating it is necessary or beneficial. If anyone knows, I hope they let us know.
thanks.
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Differences between PRI 1.34_003 & 1.40_003?
Does anyone know the difference of these two versions? Someone said it's the Primary Roaming Index, will it affect the performance of the phone itself? I've searched this forum and no one has answered this question before.
I have part-2 root and using stock rooted .6 rom, deleted some system apps myself, and applied the rooted OTA update, i can still use all the features of the phone like 3G-4G, (I noticed it was harder to get a 4G connection since OTA update) but don't know if they are faster or slower than stock, can anyone share some insight?
Is there a way to back out of part-2 root to get the 1.40_003 to test out?
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I believe PRI is Primary Rate Interface and it has to do with the network connection
Been trying to get my PRI back to stock but it doesn't seem possible, flashed my phone back to stock with the RUU then did OTA's up to 1.47 but my PRI is stuck at 1.34 it won't update. My reception and 3g was awesome before rooting and I suspect the PRI is to blame with my spotty 3g now. I also can't seem to get a 4g signal where others are saying they see 4g. I have a new phone coming. Will compare them side by side to see in a few days and update the post.
any luck with this? my pri version is also stuck at 1.34. i did the radio update as well.
"The PRI contains the settings for the various configuration items on the handset that may be network specific but not necessarily subscription specific, such as standard CDMA channels, slot cycle index, default PRL, etc."
http://www.cdg.org/resources/white_papers/files/cdma frequently asked questions by gemplus.pdf
I am almost positive if you want to go back to the stock PRI you can do a master reset but you need the MSL to do so. Well at least this was the way with the Hero.
Here is the link for the Hero. I am not sure that this will work but its worth a try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653735&highlight=PRI+reset
Does not work
Rooted with Fresh 0.5.3 installed. Latest radio installed and latest wimax driver installed. 4G is el broken.
0003 - Epson screen
Baseband Version: 2.05.00.06.10
Software number: 1.32.651.6
PRI: 1.34_003
PRL: 60667
Hrshycro said:
Rooted with Fresh 0.5.3 installed. Latest radio installed and latest wimax driver installed. 4G is el broken.
0003 - Epson screen
Baseband Version: 2.05.00.06.10
Software number: 1.32.651.6
PRI: 1.34_003
PRL: 60667
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Hrshycro,
by default Fresh .5.3 does not provide the 2.05 baseband. so you may have done something similar to me. my software versions are the same http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7011250#post7011250
All is working well on my device. 4G is fine (still a bit of a battery hog tho)
there is a post in the development forum that better explains it, but essentially the PRI is part of the HBOOT.
If you have flashed the engineering HBOOT then your PRI will be the 1.34_003, this is what lets you keep your full root/nand unlocked.
If you have the original OEM un-rooted HBOOT, then you will have the 1.40 PRI and thus the locked HBOOT/nand.
IF or UNTIL the HBOOT gets separate from the PRI, you will have to stay with PRI 1.34 if you want to keep your ROOT.
If you really want or have to go back to 1.40, you should be able to flash the OEM RUU which should set everything back to stock and un-rooted. Not currently possible to go back to 1.40 PRI.
Hey all, just wondering if anyone has tried to see if they can root the OTA to Froyo. Not that I need it, but I figure there is bound to be people who do in the coming days (both from their own stupidity, and some from being absolutely new after the update). The PRI doesn't change, so I'm guessing that's got to be at least some good news. I have no idea what it might take to root it, or even what measures were included in the OTA to prevent rooting. Just wondering if anyone is working on it.
Also, does anyone know how we can change our PRI's? I used the Froyo flash without root and still have the old pre-1.40 PRI. Also, does the PRI have anything to do with the market not showing copy protected apps? If it does, then I may actually need root again... LOL. Anyways, just hoping someone is looking in to finding a new root method and perhaps figuring out PRI/market issues.
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Hey all, just wondering if anyone has tried to see if they can root the OTA to Froyo. Not that I need it, but I figure there is bound to be people who do in the coming days (both from their own stupidity, and some from being absolutely new after the update). The PRI doesn't change, so I'm guessing that's got to be at least some good news. I have no idea what it might take to root it, or even what measures were included in the OTA to prevent rooting. Just wondering if anyone is working on it.
Also, does anyone know how we can change our PRI's? I used the Froyo flash without root and still have the old pre-1.40 PRI. Also, does the PRI have anything to do with the market not showing copy protected apps? If it does, then I may actually need root again... LOL. Anyways, just hoping someone is looking in to finding a new root method and perhaps figuring out PRI/market issues.
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The OTA is rooted. Search the forums. PRI is tied to the ENG HBOOT, so you are stuck with 1.34 if you want to keep root.
superlinkx said:
Hey all, just wondering if anyone has tried to see if they can root the OTA to Froyo. Not that I need it, but I figure there is bound to be people who do in the coming days (both from their own stupidity, and some from being absolutely new after the update). The PRI doesn't change, so I'm guessing that's got to be at least some good news. I have no idea what it might take to root it, or even what measures were included in the OTA to prevent rooting. Just wondering if anyone is working on it.
Also, does anyone know how we can change our PRI's? I used the Froyo flash without root and still have the old pre-1.40 PRI. Also, does the PRI have anything to do with the market not showing copy protected apps? If it does, then I may actually need root again... LOL. Anyways, just hoping someone is looking in to finding a new root method and perhaps figuring out PRI/market issues.
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Wow just wow
sent with my evo from a secret place
SteelH said:
The OTA is rooted. Search the forums. PRI is tied to the ENG HBOOT, so you are stuck with 1.34 if you want to keep root.
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I think he is talking about a root method for those running the stock OTA.
SteelH said:
The OTA is rooted. Search the forums. PRI is tied to the ENG HBOOT, so you are stuck with 1.34 if you want to keep root.
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If we don't want to keep root is there a way to change the pri back?
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TheBiles said:
I think he is talking about a root method for those running the stock OTA.
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Ditto thats what I think hes referring to as well. Hopefully the method doesn't include downgrading like before and then losing the PRI, but if it does we can get a way of extracting it this time.
dylan6879 said:
If we don't want to keep root is there a way to change the pri back?
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If you don't want root, v1.47 OTA has PRI 1.40 in it's HBOOT, same as Froyo release floating around.
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Ditto thats what I think hes referring to as well. Hopefully the method doesn't include downgrading like before and then losing the PRI, but if it does we can get a way of extracting it this time.
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As far as the OTA being rooted, no it's is not.If you upgrade OTA you will NOT have root. The rooted froyo roms in the forums all use THE SAME ENG HBOOT, which means you will be stuck with PRI 1.34
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If you don't want root, v1.47 OTA has PRI 1.40 in it's HBOOT, same as Froyo release floating around.
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My problem is that I already flashed the "unofficial" Froyo update that I got directly from HTC. It didn't update the PRI, and I don't think I can flash a downgraded ROM. I guess I can try, but most likely I'd have to use the RUU and the 1.47 RUU never works for me.
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If you don't want root, v1.47 OTA has PRI 1.40 in it's HBOOT, same as Froyo release floating around.
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What is this PRI and what are the differences in the versions?
I'm already rooted but would like to go back to full stock so there is no way for me to get my pri back to 140 because others are saying when you unroot it stays at 134
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dylan6879 said:
I'm already rooted but would like to go back to full stock so there is no way for me to get my pri back to 140 because others are saying when you unroot it stays at 134
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Yeah...even going back to stock you will still have 1.34, unfortunately. You can hex edit it to say 1.40 but that is cosmetic only.
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If the Froyo update really did wipe HBOOT, why didn't the PRI change? Maybe it didn't actually do anything to the HBOOT? If that's the case, maybe those who had full root can still gain root through the bootloader. Anyways, someone really needs to find a way to get our PRI upgraded. Its sad that even switching to stock won't fix it.
Just thought I would let you guys know...and this is not a question...
I did the OTA froyo update over a previously rooted EVO...all went real smooth and the PRI stayed at 1.34. This may or may not be helpful but being the PRI changed during original rooting then the same process seems vulnerable now...at least from my novice glance.
those bastards. well, that settles it then.
I'll be "accidentally dropping" my Evo, and getting a fresh one.
here we go again
cardiox said:
Just thought I would let you guys know...and this is not a question...
I did the OTA froyo update over a previously rooted EVO...all went real smooth and the PRI stayed at 1.34. This may or may not be helpful but being the PRI changed during original rooting then the same process seems vulnerable now...at least from my novice glance.
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not development either
Whats the big deal with pri anyway,
Froyo isn't going to change the PRI anyways... I was hoping that HTC/Sprint would incorporate a new HBOOT... which would update everyone to the latest PRI.
BAleR said:
Whats the big deal with pri anyway,
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yeah... i'd like to know that too actually.
For me, PRI seems to double my 3G data speed. It effects some more than others.
This post was directed to some of the developers that had concern about the 1.34 PRI and how it fell in place with the future rooting of the OTA Froyo. It was meant to be a heads up in that direction of development so where else should it have been put?
I personally had a big data transfer deficeit with 2.1 and the PRI 1.34. NOW all is well with 2.2 and PRI 1.34. SO no worries to the devs...
Ok this is a little off subject...but what is worse: *posting in wrong forum vs *post boosting a post in a wrong forum.....just curious.
uh, I'm still having a problem here
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Froyo isn't going to change the PRI anyways... I was hoping that HTC/Sprint would incorporate a new HBOOT... which would update everyone to the latest PRI.
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But there was a new hboot in the image that was released. Did it not flash for you?
cardiox said:
This post was directed to some of the developers that had concern about the 1.34 PRI and how it fell in place with the future rooting of the OTA Froyo. It was meant to be a heads up in that direction of development so where else should it have been put?
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there wre no files inside the froyo OTA .zip which would update the PRI.
Are we not gonna be able to upgrade to the 1.40 version anytime soon?
EDIT: Should mention that I used toast's method to root
i have pri 1.40
xlrdxrevengex said:
i have pri 1.40
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are you rooted?
nope not rooted you must have posted your edit after my post
xlrdxrevengex said:
nope not rooted you must have posted your edit after my post
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yes
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currently there is no way to upgrade the PRI. flashing the engineer build moves you to PRI 1.34 which right now is irreversible (including going back to unrooted). Hopefully in the future a way to update is found (likely when a RUU or OTA changes it) however till then we are stuck on 1.34
Well you can flash a zip hex edit it to say 1.40 for cosmetic purposes, but it will still be 1.34.
ok,what's the deal with the PRI?
Some are saying that 3g speeds is significantly faster on the 1.40 pri and also there are some who are afraid that having a 1.34 prl pretty much means the phone has been rooted. Not sure if it would be a problem for those who has warranty issues.
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im rooted on fresh 3.1 wit netarch 3.7.8b pri 1.40_003
Hi everyone,
I know starting a new thread for an overused question is annoying but I really can't seem to find a confirming post.
My evo is rooted and the pri is 1.3. If I install the Stock RUU from sprint and then use the official updated version of android 2.2, would it update the pri to 1.4? I know I would lose root, maybe forever.
No it won't, their is no way currently to update the pri. All of the phones since release day came with the 1.40 pri, it has never been included in an OTA update or RUU. In other words, a pri update does not exist.
ahh thanks! Then can I ask, How did we get 1.34?
dabundan01 said:
ahh thanks! Then can I ask, How did we get 1.34?
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PRI 1.34_003 came as a result of rooting and installing the engineering bootloader.