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I have a regular phone I use with Sprint....nothing fancy. Off to the side, I have an HTC Evo 4G that play around with at home. If I root this phone, would I be able to hook it up in place of my current phone and not have to pay for a data plan? If I can do that, how does that work?
I think the only thing u can get for free is tethering, and u have to have a data plan for that to work, I'm sure ill be corrected if I'm wrong but I don't think u can get free data.
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Use WiFi
On my Gingerbreaded Evo-Shifted Premium XDA App.
I don't need the data plan. I just wanted to know if I can still connect it without getting the data plan.
No you wouldn't be able to get a free data plan. Any smartphone (rooted or not) needs a data plan subscribed or else everyone will do what you are talkin about. Your best bet is just using it on the side with WiFi.
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Rooting to steal, this is what gives rooting a bad name.
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Rooting to steal, this is what gives rooting a bad name.
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Ummm....I asked a simple question. I said I DID NOT want the data plan. What does that have to do with stealing? I am not trying to steal anything. I was just simply asking if I could use my Smartphone without getting the data plan. Sheesh!
Anyways..................thanks for the other responses. I understand.
Friend,
xazilizax said:
If I root this phone, would I be able to hook it up in place of my current phone and not have to pay for a data plan?
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That's clearly you asking if rooting will allow a way around purchasing a data plan through rooting.
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Friend,
That's clearly you asking if rooting will allow a way around purchasing a data plan through rooting.
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No, he is asking if the EVO can be used as JUST a phone, not use the data connection at all.
Muellersirch said:
No, he is asking if the EVO can be used as JUST a phone, not use the data connection at all.
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Well, that's not how it seems.
Anyway, he received an answer.
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Well, that's not how it seems.
Anyway, he received an answer.
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that's exactly how it seemed to me. I understood his question from the get go.
He wants to use the phone without a data plan, IE the phone has no data connectivity unless on wifi.
Not sure what was so hard to understand about that....
deathsled said:
that's exactly how it seemed to me. I understood his question from the get go.
He wants to use the phone without a data plan, IE the phone has no data connectivity unless on wifi.
Not sure what was so hard to understand about that....
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Nothing...it was plain and simple. Some people just think the worst intentions of others and blast them for it.
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deathsled said:
that's exactly how it seemed to me. I understood his question from the get go.
He wants to use the phone without a data plan, IE the phone has no data connectivity unless on wifi.
Not sure what was so hard to understand about that....
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Agreed on this.
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deathsled said:
that's exactly how it seemed to me. I understood his question from the get go.
He wants to use the phone without a data plan, IE the phone has no data connectivity unless on wifi.
Not sure what was so hard to understand about that....
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That's how you claim to perceive it now and that's fine.
That's not how everyone perceived it.
Besides, getting around the data plan requirement is stealing in its own right.
Anyway, he has his answer.
mattykinsx said:
That's how you claim to perceive it now and that's fine.
That's not how everyone perceived it.
Besides, getting around the data plan requirement is stealing in its own right.
Anyway, he has his answer.
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How is it stealing if he doesn't want to have data on his phone except using wifi. Its not like he's looking for a way to get sprint data for free by rooting and such. Its like having ur phone on airplane mode til u get into a wifi hotspot area
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Sounds legit to me. I don't see why you couldn't do this. I would call sprint and just ask. Worst they can say is no.
I actually put you on ignore but I'm on the computer and saw it.
Yes, that's exactly how I perceived it.
And with all due respect to XDA, we have a forum where a lot of users spend their time trying to get out of contracts over 50 cents, trying to scam carriers because they updated OTA and lost root, tethering (and torrenting on the tether) via root methods etc etc etc.
So you'll have to forgive me if I don't assume the best when people ask questions of this nature.
dukeoflbg said:
Sounds legit to me. I don't see why you couldn't do this. I would call sprint and just ask. Worst they can say is no.
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How would they manage that?
If you're connected to the network that includes a data connection.
Doesn't make sense.
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How would they manage that?
If you're connected to the network that includes a data connection.
Doesn't make sense.
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U r correct when it comes to android and most other smartphones. If u want to use it as just a phone but no data they can't do it cause it is constantly using data in the background and can't be stopped. In theory it would be cool but in actuality its not possible.
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If they can monitor your useage they can turn it off.
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I recently moved in to a new apartment for college and unfortunately my signal is very poor while inside the building.
This is really the only place on campus that I don't get great signal unless I get close to the window and pray that my phone decides to connect.
I've briefly looked into possible solutions but wanted to see if anyone had any suggestions/opinions on what I should/ could do.
I briefly looked into the Sprint AIRAVE, which I should be able to get. However, unless I can get it for free then I really don't see it as a viable solution, especially since my contract is up soon and I can just move to another carrier.
At this point I see my options being:
1. Get the AIRAVE.
2. Purchase a 3RD party signal booster (If cheaper than Sprint one).
3. Come up with some kind of DIY solution
4. Change some things on my phone in the hope that it improves.
5. Switch to another carrier.
What do you guys suggest doing/ think is the best option?
Are there ay other options I've missed?
Current Setup on my Epic 4g:
Rom: CM9 STABLE build from 8/10
Kernal: Shadow v0.6.3.3
PRL: FC09
I suggest option #1: Call Sprint and throw a fit, and have them provide you an airave
You may be better off with option 5.
The Airave is more of a cop-out solution for Sprint and their craptastic network. However, if it works for you then by all means go with it.
I've been with them for over 10 years now and haven't seen much network improvement in my city in the last 5 years. There are big patches of dead and weak signal spots all over. Hell, I can step outside my office building and find a dead spot in one 5 foot span, then move out of that span and be in a 3-signal strength spot.
I'm waiting a bit longer to see if their network will improve in my area. Otherwise, I will most likely jump carriers.
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You may be better off with option 5.
The Airave is more of a cop-out solution for Sprint and their craptastic network. However, if it works for you then by all means go with it.
I've been with them for over 10 years now and haven't seen much network improvement in my city in the last 5 years. There are big patches of dead and weak signal spots all over. Hell, I can step outside my office building and find a dead spot in one 5 foot span, then move out of that span and be in a 3-signal strength spot.
I'm waiting a bit longer to see if their network will improve in my area. Otherwise, I will most likely jump carriers.
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My family has used them for about 10 years total, with a brief break when we lived in england. I've never really had any problems with getting signal where I needed it before now. But yeah, at this point they better make a good offer if they want me to stay with them.
So I called sprint, they wanted me to go through some troubleshooting stuff and ended up asking me if I was rooted.
I had a bunch of back and forth with him and he claimed that being rooted/not on stock caused my phone to show no "vital signs" and that even if I am using the proper PRL it doesn't matter. Everything he said sounded like a bunch of policy stuff and he never gave a clear explanation of why it mattered if I am rooted. Anyways he said I could restore to stock/factory settings and then he would call me back latter and we would troubleshoot stuff.
I am going to be doing the flowing:
1. Backup everything
2. Odin back to stock (non-rooted + update)
3. Go through the troubleshooting, even though I know it won't make a difference.
4. Hopefully get the AIRAVE for free.
5. Go back to my current setup.
I've also noticed that turning 4G on may actually make a difference in signal (Since there is 4G in atlanta).
Does anyone have in thoughts about this?
Am I wrong in saying that being rooted has NO effect on connectivity?
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So I called sprint, they wanted me to go through some troubleshooting stuff and ended up asking me if I was rooted.
I had a bunch of back and forth with him and he claimed that being rooted/not on stock caused my phone to show no "vital signs" and that even if I am using the proper PRL it doesn't matter. Everything he said sounded like a bunch of policy stuff and he never gave a clear explanation of why it mattered if I am rooted. Anyways he said I could restore to stock/factory settings and then he would call me back latter and we would troubleshoot stuff.
I am going to be doing the flowing:
1. Backup everything
2. Odin back to stock (non-rooted + update)
3. Go through the troubleshooting, even though I know it won't make a difference.
4. Hopefully get the AIRAVE for free.
5. Go back to my current setup.
I've also noticed that turning 4G on may actually make a difference in signal (Since there is 4G in atlanta).
Does anyone have in thoughts about this?
Am I wrong in saying that being rooted has NO effect on connectivity?
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If you do anything with Sprint that involves troubleshooting, you should be on 100% stock. Also, never admit to rooting, even though there is that PDF from internal Sprint mail around these forums saying it's basically okay for customers to be rooted. It's way easier to just get back on stock and step through troubleshooting, than dealing with a script following CSR on the matter.
It takes an experienced flasher all of 3 minutes to get from stock back to previous setup or a new custom setup. So not a big deal.
Turning on 4G is an entirely different radio; hence you would have differing signal strengths from 4G to 3G.
GuidingArrow said:
I recently moved in to a new apartment for college and unfortunately my signal is very poor while inside the building.
This is really the only place on campus that I don't get great signal unless I get close to the window and pray that my phone decides to connect.
I've briefly looked into possible solutions but wanted to see if anyone had any suggestions/opinions on what I should/ could do.
I briefly looked into the Sprint AIRAVE, which I should be able to get. However, unless I can get it for free then I really don't see it as a viable solution, especially since my contract is up soon and I can just move to another carrier.
At this point I see my options being:
1. Get the AIRAVE.
2. Purchase a 3RD party signal booster (If cheaper than Sprint one).
3. Come up with some kind of DIY solution
4. Change some things on my phone in the hope that it improves.
5. Switch to another carrier.
What do you guys suggest doing/ think is the best option?
Are there ay other options I've missed?
Current Setup on my Epic 4g:
Rom: CM9 STABLE build from 8/10
Kernal: Shadow v0.6.3.3
PRL: FC09
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Maybe try the nexus modem and see if that improves signal. Some people say it has and got rid of dropped calls. Samsung is notorious for making awful modems, but Google made the Nexus one, so it is better for me and most people who have tried it.
I know really shouldn't have admitted to being rooted but I think I kind of wanted to argue with him about it, just to see what kind of reasoning they give.
And yeah, flashing back to my previous setup shouldn't be too hard. I already know for a fact that going to stock won't solve the problem,
I'm still testing the 4G thing since I can't really confirm if it is actually boosting the signal or not.
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@xboxfanj: I thought about trying that the other day. I have to be on a CM7 rom to use it, correct?
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I know really shouldn't have admitted to being rooted but I think I kind of wanted to argue with him about it, just to see what kind of reasoning they give.
And yeah, flashing back to my previous setup shouldn't be too hard. I already know for a fact that going to stock won't solve the problem,
I'm still testing the 4G thing since I can't really confirm if it is actually boosting the signal or not.
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@xboxfanj: I thought about trying that the other day. I have to be on a CM7 rom to use it, correct?
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Now there is a patch for CM10 as well. Nothing yet on stock or CM9.
Yeah I noticed that. I tried switching to PA1.99 and using the nexus modem but it didn't have any kind of effect in my apartment.
So I odined back to stock fc09.
The Sprint rep called me back, I told him it didn't have an effect (because it didn't).
He agreed to send me the AIRAVE at no charge so I should hopefully have it in a week or so.
After I get it all setup I'll update this thread with details as to whether or not it actually solves the problem.
Now time to root my phone again...
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Now there is a patch for CM10 as well. Nothing yet on stock or CM9.
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Waiting for someone to do a TW stock patch!
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Waiting for someone to do a TW stock patch!
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I am dying for the cm9 patch!! So far aokp has given me my best setup (sorry KG, TPR is a very close 2nd!).
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Waiting for someone to do a TW stock patch!
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Hopefully it'll be compatible with the touchwiz framework. Does anyone know where I can find the mtd tw device source?
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Received the AIRAVE today. Took a little bit of fiddling to get it setup right.
I now get pretty consistent signal, generally 5 full bars, throughout my apartment.
My only real complaint is that it decreases my internet download speed from over 100Mb/s to around 40Mb/s.
The decrease is unavoidable since I have to use the AIRAVE router functionality in order to have it and my computer hooked up.
However it did seem to increase my upload speed by about 5Mb/s once I increased the limit it had set by default.
It also seems to causes me to receive texts twice but that may have just been a one off thing.
Overall it has solved the issue and since it was free I can't really complain.
The double text is an occasional thing and probably will never happen again. I hooked my airave to my router instead of the modem as suggested and it works just fine and does not interfere with my throughputs.
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I hooked my airave to my router instead of the modem as suggested and it works just fine and does not interfere with my throughputs.
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This is how I have mine set up and it works perfect.
Mine is setup so that the AIRAVE connects to the wall and then to my laptop (it's probably hooked to a router/modem somewhere but it's dorm internet so I have no control over that).
It would probably be faster if I hooked it through a separate router but I don't really want to spend the money on one, and would need a pretty decent one since my school has one of the top 10 fastest internet connections in the country (if I had to guess number 3, behind the pentagon and google fiber).
Hi Guys. Really sorry if this has been asked alot and beaten to death but an hour of searching and reading hasnt really revealed an answer.
My company just gave me an HTC One X+ from AT&T since I didnt want an iPhone. Seems like a good device but I did run into one snag.
My previous phone was a Galaxy S2 but was having major battery drain issues with Exchange Server so I thought I would try a different manufacture and keep my fingers crossed. The snag is this: with my SGS2 I was able to use FoxFi (and others) for WiFi tethering/hotspot and it worked great even bone-stock. With the HOX it seems At&t has gotten a little smarter and can detect when a program is trying to hotspot and I get taht message saying to call them if I want it enabled when I start FoxFi.
I have the paid version of clockworkmod and that will not work at all - says failed to connect when I hit start in Windows 7. I also have the paid version of PDAnet and that kind of works but the connection get dropped pretty regularly making it unreliable. Not sure if this has anything to do with Att's detections since they did gave me some trouble with the SGS2 as well (not exactly same though).
My question is this: can I get FoxFi to work WITHOUT root? Since it is brand new and not mine technically I hate to start hacking the thing up so quickly. But the tethering is a function I really like.
Thanks
Ernie
aesalazar said:
Hi Guys. Really sorry if this has been asked alot and beaten to death but an hour of searching and reading hasnt really revealed an answer.
My company just gave me an HTC One X+ from AT&T since I didnt want an iPhone. Seems like a good device but I did run into one snag.
My previous phone was a Galaxy S2 but was having major battery drain issues with Exchange Server so I thought I would try a different manufacture and keep my fingers crossed. The snag is this: with my SGS2 I was able to use FoxFi (and others) for WiFi tethering/hotspot and it worked great even bone-stock. With the HOX it seems At&t has gotten a little smarter and can detect when a program is trying to hotspot and I get taht message saying to call them if I want it enabled when I start FoxFi.
I have the paid version of clockworkmod and that will not work at all - says failed to connect when I hit start in Windows 7. I also have the paid version of PDAnet and that kind of works but the connection get dropped pretty regularly making it unreliable. Not sure if this has anything to do with Att's detections since they did gave me some trouble with the SGS2 as well (not exactly same though).
My question is this: can I get FoxFi to work WITHOUT root? Since it is brand new and not mine technically I hate to start hacking the thing up so quickly. But the tethering is a function I really like.
Thanks
Ernie
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Did you ever get it to work? I have rooted my One x+ and have FoxFi and it still won't work. A friend of mine said something about using Titanium Backup to freeze a service for tethering to work....but I haven't been able to figure out how to do that yet.
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Matt
No, no luck but I havent tried rooting it yet. I posted this over in the HOX+ forum as well and everyone says rooting is the way to go. Discouraging that it is not working for you. I dont know enough about Titanium to help you, hopefully someone else here can.
I gave my old SGS2 to my wife which is no on Straight Talk and hotspoting/tethering still works fine for her :/.
Ernie
About the same time every month, I get throttled. Have impressive wi-fi speeds at home, but some how with r without wi-fi -- calls don't get through and the phone gets jammed-up. It always takes me a minute, tho ...after frantically dumping junk files, jst b4i abort tasks, it hits me. I f/n loathe t-mobile. Please help!
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About the same time every month, I get throttled. Have impressive wi-fi speeds at home, but some how with r without wi-fi -- calls don't get through and the phone gets jammed-up. It always takes me a minute, tho ...after frantically dumping junk files, jst b4i abort tasks, it hits me. I f/n loathe t-mobile. Please help!
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this doesnt sound like data throttling. What rom are you running? and if your running stock, it might be hardware related. I would say that your service just sucks in your area, but if calls dont get through even on wifi, its not the service
And even if it was data throttling, if tmobile wants to throttle your data, they are going to do it, and theres no way to bypass that. If there was a way no one would be on the unlimited plan, and it wouldnt be discussed here on xda, because that would be fraud
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And even if it was data throttling, if tmobile wants to throttle your data, they are going to do it, and theres no way to bypass that. If there was a way no one would be on the unlimited plan, and it wouldnt be discussed here on xda, because that would be fraud
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Oh..?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35688003
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Oh..?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35688003
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i stand corrected
doesnt change the fact that it doesnt sound like data throttling though
also, i didnt think that bypassing data throttles would be so easy
That's for the S3 though, hard telling if it would work on the S4
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That's for the S3 though, hard telling if it would work on the S4
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ill try it myself later today, its 4 in the morn here and i dont have the energy to do it lol
So long as you are on T-Mobile's network, it is IMPOSSIBLE to bypass the throttling. All the hits you are getting, were for older phones and older networks. T-Mobile has gotten smart since then. All throttling is done via their servers and NOT the phone. All data counting is done on their end. Not the phone. So its impossible to bypass it. Your best bet is to go with unlimited plan if you use that much data. I love my unlimited plan.
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I totally agree. I actually started a note yesterday to the mods asking about this very thing.Why do the rules here speak about not posting warez or about stealing developers software here but it is ok to discuss how to steal things that the providers charge for? People ask straight out...."How can I steal".....and thats OK? If you try to bypass things that are normally charged for , like unlock codes, throttleing bypass, or tethering without paying, it is, IMHO stealing.
OK let the bashing begin
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I totally agree. I actually started a note yesterday to the mods asking about this very thing.Why do the rules here speak about not posting warez or about stealing developers software here but it is ok to discuss how to steal things that the providers charge for? People ask straight out...."How can I steal".....and thats OK? If you try to bypass things that are normally charged for , like unlock codes, throttleing bypass, or tethering without paying, it is, IMHO stealing.
OK let the bashing begin
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When I pay $629.99 for something, I'll do precisely what I want with it. I could apply your own logic and tell you that you shouldn't root your phone or install custom ROMs, but without that, what would XDA be? Food for thought.
Edit: Sorry, the bit about unlocking rubbed me the wrong way, but to be fair, I will say that I think attempting to bypass the throttling is too far over the line. Tethering.... that's another story. You pay for your data, use it how you want.
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When I pay $629.99 for something, I'll do precisely what I want with it. I could apply your own logic and tell you that you shouldn't root your phone or install custom ROMs, but without that, what would XDA be? Food for thought.
Edit: Sorry, the bit about unlocking rubbed me the wrong way, but to be fair, I will say that I think attempting to bypass the throttling is too far over the line. Tethering.... that's another story. You pay for your data, use it how you want.
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I highly agree with your edit
However, anyone can try as hard as they like to bypass the throttling, its no longer done on the phone itself. Its done on T-Mobiles end. The hack posted in that thread doesnt even work. If you look at the system services running when being throttled, there is not a single service labled "Throttle Service" plus if it were software related, CM ROMs shouldnt throttle but they do. It is all server based throttling now based off your cell phone number and IMEI (T-Mobile's way of detecting who you are )
New Info!
Although this thread is old as dirt, I came across it because no one is really talking about this anymore as it appears to be Impossible to Bypass the T-mo Throttle....
But I have Positive Confirmation as I'm cooking at about 300KB/s Right now!!!!
Not sure why but I have a Sitemap Generator that when it creates a Sitemap it runs at full speed, and Also my Windows 7 Updates run at full speed!!!
Here's the situation and Maybe someone else can confirm with a Like setup, My GSR2 (I-727) Blew Up, So I had to go back to a REAL OLD P506, running 2.2 or 2.4 some crap like that, I'm using Paid FoxFi with USB Connect and Tether Block 1, Which I'm not even supposed to be doing!!! as I'm Off my 2.5Gigs of 4g, Which this phone only goes 3g/Edge anyhow...
Here's a Screen Shot of my Data Speed... Meant to post on this Months ago when I switched to T-mo, but never got to it...
Reason I'm Posting now, Is because I think this Needs to be Revisited, as Apparently it IS POSSIBLE!
Mike
P.S. Regular Transfers/Downloads/Webpages Etc, Run about 15-20KB/s
I was wondering if tethering has been unlocked for the verizon model. I was gonna go get a g3 today at my local verizon but I need to have tethering.
I see that root is out for all the versions so I'm assuming someone has come up with a tethering method.
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I was wondering if tethering has been unlocked for the verizon model. I was gonna go get a g3 today at my local verizon but I need to have tethering.
I see that root is out for all the versions so I'm assuming someone has come up with a tethering method.
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Ok this forum isn't near as hopeful as we were over on the g2. It's just a simple question
I've looked around and don't see anything mentioning tethering so I guess it's not out yet.
Is there anyone actively working it? Things seem slow over here on the G3 compared to how the G2 forum was when it first dropped. I really like this phone and I'm sure over time it will get some devs working on it. I just really would like to know if tethering is being worked on at all or if anyone knows of a method that just hasn't been posted yet. I know on a couple smartphones I've owned guys have figured out tethering methods for themselves and then later ended up sharing them with the rest of us non developers.
Anyway, thanks to anyone who bothers reading and/or replying.
PS. I always use the thanks button! I have over 1700 thanks in only 6 months of activity on android forums ;]
There was a discussion earlier somewhere...I think this is it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/g3-hotspot-hack-t2812305
Haven't tried it, though I'm hoping it works as I'd like to use it.
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There was a discussion earlier somewhere...I think this is it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/g3-hotspot-hack-t2812305
Haven't tried it, though I'm hoping it works as I'd like to use it.
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Thanks for your response. I didn't realise there was a verizon G3 forum.
The tethering mod works perfect.