Hey there
I have a quastion I hope is not too dull:
I bought an unlocked Desire from T-Mobile Germany and am on a pre-paid contract with simyo (e-plus). My Desire shows the T-Mobile Logo on boot and that's all about visual branding.
So, who will be responsible for the Froyo-OTA? Is it simyo? And will the simyo (unbranded) OTA even be applicable on my T-Mob Desire? Or should I consider debranding?
Thanks guys!
T-Mobile will be responsible for your Froyo update.... I wouldnt hold your breath it will take them months to release it...
I debranded an Orange Desire and it did the previous OTA update the minute I switched it on after flashing.... the HTC ROM is way better than the Orange one... definitely de-brand your phone
But how does T-Mob get access to my Desire, when I'm on a different carrier? Kinda not get it.
About debranding: Guess this link is legit, but are there occasions to brick the phone or lose all my contacts? Never considered circumventing anything, as i'm super happy with htc's sensed android.
cheers and thx already
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I have a question for all you technical types out there. I have to admit that my knowledge about these things is pretty limited.
I tried to order a HTC Desire as part of a contract upgrade and it seems that I have hit a road block when it comes to getting a unbranded phone. I can get one relatively quick and easy if it is branded (i.e. T-Mobile or Vodafone) and my netprovider is neither.
My question is: does it make a difference (branded or un-branded)? Or using a branded phone with a different Sim card?
Orr is it possible or necessary to change the Rom to unbranded?
I would really appreciate whatever advice I could get.
Thanks.
Shouldn't make a difference. Either way you can simply flash the unbranded Rom using a goldcard.
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Hi Cedeel, what is a Goldcard???? Like I said, I know almost nothing about these things.
Thanks for having patience with me.
You could do a simple search. Basically, it will allow you to flash any signed Rom for your device.
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Not sure about in Germany but here in the UK Vodafone leave their phones unbranded (inside and out) - mine certainly is. All you really need to do is get the phone unlocked to use another netwrk's sim in it.
GrenW said:
Not sure about in Germany but here in the UK Vodafone leave their phones unbranded (inside and out) - mine certainly is. All you really need to do is get the phone unlocked to use another netwrk's sim in it.
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vodafone UK no longer SIM lock their phones. This has been the case for the last year or 2.
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Not sure about in Germany but here in the UK Vodafone leave their phones unbranded (inside and out) - mine certainly is. All you really need to do is get the phone unlocked to use another netwrk's sim in it.
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They do, however, have a different vendor ID than the generic WWE ROM so you have to wait for VF to approve it
My first post, but I've been lurking for a while. After some quick advice if possible, can anybody confirm if my Desire is unbranded or not. Got it from Vodafone but put my mate's SIM (O2) in it the other day and it worked fine, so thought it was unbranded. Finally decided to go down the Custom ROM route, so thought I'd just double check, stumbled across this
"Go to Settings>About Phone>Software version and see what the FW version is - branded is x.xx.161.x, unbranded is x.xx.405.x"
whilst searching, so had a quick check of firmware version and it is 1.19.161.5, so seems to be a branded phone. Is this correct? If it is, then I'll just create a goldcard. Any advice would be much appreciated.
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Not sure about in Germany but here in the UK Vodafone leave their phones unbranded (inside and out) - mine certainly is. All you really need to do is get the phone unlocked to use another netwrk's sim in it.
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In NL T-Mobile doesn't sell branded Desires. I'm not sure about Germany too.
However, I do know that some phones with another provider get their software updates much later.
I also wonder if you have a Carphone Warehouse or Phone House near you. I know they exist in Germany and if it's like the UK stores they sell all their phones unlocked on or off contract and you get similar if not better deals to the networks.
I have a Desire at the moment with Vodafone... its been dropping calls and Vodafone said they think the handset has failed and agreed to replace it... this was 6 weeks ago almost... so I eventually got the hump and told vodafone they can have it back.
I've had the chance to buy an Orange branded black Desire that I'm going to run on a sim only contract....
I have no idea on Linux.... my questions are really is it easy to flash a stock HTC (hopefully froyo) like it is on winmo devices? - also is it straight forward to unlock an Orange phone?....
And has anyone managed to wipe the orange logo off with spirit wipe or similar?
I just want an unbranded phone really...
How heavy is the orange ROM compared to say the Vodafone one which appears to be a factory HTC Desire..
A Desire branded and locked to Orange is probably one of the worst ones you could have chosen! No offence intended. It's just that when you come to de-brand them, there has been a common issue with people de-branding there Orange branded phone and the wi-fi stops working. Whilst I think there may be a fix somewhere, I'm not sure if this is limited to it actually running on the Orange network, as opposed to the de-branding procedure itself.
As for rooting it, it is possible, quite a bit more difficult with the Desire than it used to be with older Android devices though. Here is a guide to rooting your Desire:
http://www.knowyourcell.com/htc/htc-desire/desire-guides/474135/how_to_root_the_htc_desire.html
Also if you wish to de-brand your phone, you can find this guide here:
http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Other-Off-Topic/Debranding-Unlocking-an-HTC-Desire/td-p/23317
Debranding and unlocking are -not- the same thing.
Debranding is removing the branded screen at boot time, along with the applications imposed on you by networks.
Unlocking is the process whereby the phone becomes usable on other networks.
You're better off following the guide off MoDaCo seeing as Paul over there was first to root the Desire!!!
@EddyOS - Good idea
Hi are there any issues with debranding the desire with the gold card method? It's on orange.
Thanks
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Hey XDA,
I know theres many threads on unlocking the Desire.
But none seem to have my combanation of it being on Orange and sucessfully running an unbranded Froyo 2.2 android (Non-Rooted).
At the moment im stuck with orange and wish to be with o2 because simply orange cant beat my pay as you go tariff on o2.
By the looks of it the T-Mobile Desire is easier to unlock, which annoys me.
I've tried using thephoneunlockers which was awful and took me a long battle to get my money back. I have emailed HTCCode but have ad no reply.
I did have a Rebel Sim on its way but after hearing how it damages your battery and hardware I soon emailed them asking for my money back.
Also lurking on the internet there is a rumor saying unlocking an Orange Desire on the debranded Froyo 2.2 will kill its wifi, and if you ask me a phone without a wifi is like a phone without a screen useless.
So please tell me what to do XDA im sick to death of finding dead ends and having emails from unlockers saying my IMEI and Operator combination cannot be found.
Will I have to stick to the Orange network? or has anyone been in my situation and come out with a glorious Unlocked & Unbranded HTC Desire :O
EDIT: Sorry To The Admins If I Put This Thread In The Wrong Place!
Dont want to be seen to be stating the obvious, or if you have tried already, but you do know that you can buy an unlock code from orange directly? for about 20 quid or so. They have to sell/give it to you by law after a certain period, so dont let them fob you off, and its got nothign to do with terminating the contract etc. You call them, ask for it, pay, and they HAVE to give it to you.
Hi,
Does it make any difference as to what network i buy the desire on? (UK)
For example, i know it will be locked to that network, but is there branding or any other locks for different networks?
Thanks
Orange have the most branding. T-Mobile and Three have little branding, Vodafone have with the latest update that go pulled so none -- O2 none.
However you can de-brand any of the phones to get rid of all of the crap they put on there. I did with my Orange phone as they're the slowest to dish out updates and their software was awful.
excellent cheers i was planning on changing the OS anyway... my Diamond lasted 3 hours after i bought it, before i changed the ROM
Vodafone, until recently, left their Desires alone but a recent OTA update added splash screen/Vodafone 360 app to it (which people were extremely annoyed about!!)
T-Mobile has splash screens (I think)
Orange change loads, add their own apps and generally mess it up so avoid!!
O2 add things too, don't know about 3
Best thing, go to CPW and get it on upgrade and you should get a SIM-free, generic Desire - I did this and always do as I hate branded phones!!
Thanks. Its actually going to be my Dad getting it he's going to see what he can get on his O2 business account i'll be playing with different versions of Android on it anyway...
The main reason I'd say get it SIM-free is speed of updates - operators have other product codes so you'd have to wait on them to OK an update before getting it, regardless of added apps, etc...got mine SIM-free from CPW on upgrade so got the FroYo update as soon as I got back from the US
ok cool.
Its probably going to be running a modified version of Android anyway, so shouldnt need to worry about updates
I was running custom ROMs too but found that stock FroYo does all I want it to so I can live with the crap apps I don't ever use for now
Awesome phone, though
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I was running custom ROMs too but found that stock FroYo does all I want it to so I can live with the crap apps I don't ever use for now
Awesome phone, though
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cool, we'll see what happens. cheers for the help
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cool, we'll see what happens. cheers for the help
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Please I'm using o2 branded HTC desire, do I need to debrand it before I get group 2.2 as I am presently in Lagos and not in the UK at the moment.
I'm sending my phone off to HTC UK to get a GPS rebooting issue fixed.
The phone is currently a 2.1 Eclair T-Mobile handset. Am I being too hopeful that it will come back with a generic 2.2 Froyo ROM? Anyone had one repaired recently?
I went straight to HTC rather than T-Mobile hoping that I can get some vanilla debranded goodness. It does say on the paperwork the they will wipe it and update to the latest ROM.
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I went straight to HTC rather than T-Mobile hoping that I can get some vanilla debranded goodness.
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Doubtful - my Desire was a T-Mobile branded unit, which I'd unlocked. When it was returned to me with a new mainboard (IMEI changed), it was SIM locked again and had a TMo ROM.
Regards,
Dave
B*llocks, mine's network unlocked too. They are saying it's a 3 week turn around too.
Now you are going to get one that is network locked.
Not a big problem, I got it unlocked for less than £10 last time. Was just hoping I might get Froyo.
I sent mine in to HTC three times (don't ask, they messed up two repairs).
Every time I got it back with the latest branded ROM and bootloader. Sorry
Ok cancelled the repair. Couldn't be bothered to wait 3 weeks for them to do it, I'd rather work around it and see if T-Mobile release Froyo this month.