Bluetooth AD2P Connection Music Autoplay Issue - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I googled around for this but could not find any real solution to the problem, only contrived, bootleg fixes. I also seem to find that this is the general consensus that for most people android automatically starts playing music on bluetooth connection.
let me start off by saying I do NOT want to disable my AD2P connection in bluetooth settings. This is not an acceptable solution, since I WANT to use AD2P I just don't want music to instantly play everytime I connect.
Has anyone found a real solution to this? Beyond using tasker, or whatever other contrived solution? I can't believe that this setting was excluded in the system. I really hope there is a setting I am just missing, somewhere. If not, I suggest we escalate this to the development forum.
Thanks!

I've found this happens to me to. It is incredibly annoying if you want to use a program such as pandora for music, as when it connects to my car it starts playing through the music application on top of pandora.
Even aside from disabling the autoplay (which I think might not be auto-play, it might actually be the car/other device requesting an audio stream which defaults to playing from the music app), maybe there is just a way to disable the stock music app in some manner?

mk8882 said:
I've found this happens to me to. It is incredibly annoying if you want to use a program such as pandora for music, as when it connects to my car it starts playing through the music application on top of pandora.
Even aside from disabling the autoplay (which I think might not be auto-play, it might actually be the car/other device requesting an audio stream which defaults to playing from the music app), maybe there is just a way to disable the stock music app in some manner?
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I don't think it is the fault of the stock music app, because sometimes it's the stock app, and other times it's Meridian Player for me. I'm also starting to think that you're right - it might be the car / device pressing play as soon as it is connected. If the car / paired device is the culprit pressing play, it seems like the only solution would be to have our Evo automatically press stop. But if possible I'd really prefer not to have background tasks running at all times, taxing the battery / cpu.
Very annoying, in every BT device and paired device, it seems as though not much effort was put into coding the stacks. I'm sure they're only hurting themselves though, since inevitably something will replace BT. Unfortunately now we have to figure out how to deal with the inadequacies.

I fixed this issue by using the autostarts app from the market, then disabling the music app autostart under after startup. It has not done this to me at all since then.

g12345 said:
I fixed this issue by using the autostarts app from the market, then disabling the music app autostart under after startup. It has not done this to me at all since then.
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Really? interesting. I am running Cyanogenmod 6 and there is no Music App, nor Meridian, nor anything else showing in the list. Also wouldn't that mean that this trick wouldn't work if you had opened the music app after starting your phone?
But a question - does it have to remain running in the background at all times in order to catch the bluetooth audio connected event?

nice! got autostarts, I'll try it as I go to lunch.
I think the setting we're looking for is: "Media Button Pressed"
It had both Music and Pandora listed under mine and I just disabled Music. Maybe it will start pandora for me automatically too now, that would be awesome.

mk8882 said:
nice! got autostarts, I'll try it as I go to lunch.
I think the setting we're looking for is: "Media Button Pressed"
It had both Music and Pandora listed under mine and I just disabled Music. Maybe it will start pandora for me automatically too now, that would be awesome.
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Lemme know how it goes... even though I'm pretty begrudging about running a whole app in the background just to prevent something that should be a standard setting =/

Thinking about it now, I think tasker may be worth it anyways. It can replace the Gentle Alarm process I have running in the background anyways! as well as Keepscreen, could be a net savings actually.
So if anyone has specific information on how to get Tasker to suppress instant play on BT audio connect, instructions would be appreciated

g12345 said:
I fixed this issue by using the autostarts app from the market, then disabling the music app autostart under after startup. It has not done this to me at all since then.
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When I first ran autostarts, the entry under "after startup" was already disabled... Have not used my car yet so will get back with whether it works as I want or not by disabling Music under "Media Button Pressed".
It appears that autostarts does not keep running in the background, but I could be wrong here. Autostarts mentions it can't kill things if they're already started themselves or if they change the settings again, then autostarts cannot check them and disable them again automatically.

Never had this happen, and I use A2DP every day. Sounds to me like a problem with your headset, or better yet, are you using the call/play button on your headset to initiate the connection? Because that'll probably cause this.

mk8882 said:
When I first ran autostarts, the entry under "after startup" was already disabled... Have not used my car yet so will get back with whether it works as I want or not by disabling Music under "Media Button Pressed".
It appears that autostarts does not keep running in the background, but I could be wrong here. Autostarts mentions it can't kill things if they're already started themselves or if they change the settings again, then autostarts cannot check them and disable them again automatically.
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Pretty sure it does keep running because it has a feature to "keep suppressed" seems just like a task manager would do. :-(

drmacinyasha said:
Never had this happen, and I use A2DP every day. Sounds to me like a problem with your headset, or better yet, are you using the call/play button on your headset to initiate the connection? Because that'll probably cause this.
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Yeah as above, probably is the device's fault not android. I do not press any play button on the car - I just connect but perhaps it is pressing play by itself. Stupid Ford
Just curious what bluetooth device do you use?

berardi said:
Pretty sure it does keep running because it has a feature to "keep suppressed" seems just like a task manager would do. :-(
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I have no idea where you see this "feature" listed. Maybe you have a different program installed. I have "Autostarts" by Michael Elsdorfer installed from the market.
It says:
"How does it work? Android allows applications to register for a variety of events supported by the system, to be started whenever such an event triggers.... [And in another section] I've disabled a component, but it sems to have it self enabled again after a while? Yes, applications may enable or disable their own components... Unfortunately, there is no workaround for this."
update on my testing:
1) I have a 2010Ford Fusion Hybrid (w/ nav). I found a setting to autoplay or not when the a2dp device connects (and when the BT device media function is selected). Therefore, I could have disabled the setting right there.
2) Using autostarts to disable the "Music" program from under "Media button pressed" stopped the media player from starting when I don't want it to. (I actually turned autoplay on my car back to enabled)
3) Pandora's listed under "Media button pressed", but it will only start playing if it's open already . Oh well, still more useful than before
4) There is still a fairly annoying/serious issue with BT pairing/A2DP, with Pandora at least, as sometimes after connecting and playing once and the car turning off/on -- It will not work again until I either enable/disable bluetooth manually or reboot the phone.

mk8882 said:
I have no idea where you see this "feature" listed. Maybe you have a different program installed. I have "Autostarts" by Michael Elsdorfer installed from the market.
It says:
"How does it work? Android allows applications to register for a variety of events supported by the system, to be started whenever such an event triggers.... [And in another section] I've disabled a component, but it sems to have it self enabled again after a while? Yes, applications may enable or disable their own components... Unfortunately, there is no workaround for this."
update on my testing:
1) I have a 2010Ford Fusion Hybrid (w/ nav). I found a setting to autoplay or not when the a2dp device connects (and when the BT device media function is selected). Therefore, I could have disabled the setting right there.
2) Using autostarts to disable the "Music" program from under "Media button pressed" stopped the media player from starting when I don't want it to. (I actually turned autoplay on my car back to enabled)
3) Pandora's listed under "Media button pressed", but it will only start playing if it's open already . Oh well, still more useful than before
4) There is still a fairly annoying/serious issue with BT pairing/A2DP, with Pandora at least, as sometimes after connecting and playing once and the car turning off/on -- It will not work again until I either enable/disable bluetooth manually or reboot the phone.
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I have a 2010 Ford Fusion too but I don't have the Navi/Hybrid on mine, I went cheap lol. You have an option for autoplay on your car?? How do you access that?
I only kept the app for a few hours but it was definitely the same app you are talking about. My memory isnt too clear on it but I was pretty sure for each item you could choose to either stop it at startup or keep it stopped - sorry I don't really remember the exact words they used.
Also, by disabling "media button pressed", that solves the problem of BT autostarting music, but what about if you actually want to use the controls, do they work then?

I believe I tested with the startup disabled and the play/stop as well as track forward worked. I'll reconfirm that and post it back here for you later.
The settings for me for autostart in the Sync system were in media->BT device->something like "settings"->autostart (from the LCD). I do not know where you can find a tree for your sync commands. You may be able to change the same setting.
Also, about the autostarts program, here is what I see which makes me think it does not keep a background process running:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
(showed text "Disable" where "Enable" is)
(help page1)
(help page 2)
Overall I think autostarts looks like it could be a very useful program, although I haven't found other uses for it yet

mk8882, Thanks a million for posting that!!! and now that you described where in the menu to go, I will give that a try. So if you disable autostart on the Car, you probably wouldn't even have to do anything on the phone, right?
I must be losing my mind, the program I used before was Startup Auditor, not Autostarts! I will check out Autostarts now that I know it's not what I used before, silly me. lol

I emailed the developer of Autostarts and he confirmed that it does NOT run in the background. It doesn't even run at startup - it directly disables the registrations for those events you choose. That is great... definitely going to keep this program.

berardi said:
Yeah as above, probably is the device's fault not android. I do not press any play button on the car - I just connect but perhaps it is pressing play by itself. Stupid Ford
Just curious what bluetooth device do you use?
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Rockfish RF-MAB2 headphones. Found 'em on NewEggMall for about $36.

Hi, I've been having the same annoyance with a Ford Mondeo with Sony DAB headunit. I haven't managed to find an option to disable the autostart on this, does anyone else know if it is possible on this unit ?

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AVRCP bluetooth not working?

Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP) is not working on any app. i tried it with my headphones to play/pause and skip a song and nothing. same thing on my car. so its definitely the phone causing the problem. anyone else?
Same here - tried two different devices. No play / pause.
OK, it looks like Google Music has a strangle hold on AVRCP. It works in that app (which I don't use) and nowhere else.
This is one of the reasons I ditched Google Music on my last device. The minute you install it, no other app works with AVRCP.
I tried disabling it in Applications (I am running stock w/o unlock or root ATM), but that does no good. Also tried re-enabling and FC, but again, no joy.
Hopefully someone more skilled that I has a suggestion...
EDIT - there don't appear to be any settings in Google Music to turn off their control. Tried a couple apps in the market like Headset Interceptor, but they did not help.
no google music isnt the problem. it doesnt work on any app. plus on my old phone google music didnt cause any problems and worked just fine.
qman66 said:
no google music isnt the problem. it doesnt work on any app. plus on my old phone google music didnt cause any problems and worked just fine.
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Hmm... I guess we have two different problems.
On my GNEX, AVRCP (I only care about playing and pausing via BT) works on Google Music, and nothing else.
On my old DINC, I had AVRCP working until I installed Google Music (only change I made), at which point all my other apps' AVRCP capabilities stopped working (Audible, Subsonic, etc.). I then uninstalled Google Music (again, the only change I made), and my AVRCP started working again.
To me, that experience makes it pretty clear that Google Music was causing me grief on my old device, and is mysteriously the only thing that works with this feature on my new device.
Like I said, maybe you have something else going on.
so noone else has this problem?
Try Power Amp
The Power Amp player seems to work on my Senheisser MM450 BT Headphones
I have the same issue.
AVRCP on my bluetooth headset (Plantronics BackBeat 903+) stopped working when I started using Galaxy Nexus.
On my old phone I was using BeyondPod and Player Pro with my headset and play/pause worked from the headset. Now, I cannot stop or play music in those apps.
I can confirm that this has something to do with Google Music.
I found that if I start Google Music then AVRCP works with the headset. If then I go and start Player Pro, the AVRCP stops working, and pushing play/pause button does nothing. Then, when I go back to Goolge Music, everything works fine once again.
So existence of Google Music somehow hampers the ability of other apps to claim bluetooth headset remote control fully. They claim it partially, because Google Music is not starting music on pushing play button, but the player does not start music as well.
Spotify on Nexus S stopped responding to BT Play/Pause after ICS update
I am encountering the same issue after updating my Nexus S to Ice Cream Sandwich via an OTA update.
Using Seinnheser MM450s, I was previously able to fully control Spotify (Play/Pause/Next/Previous). However since updating to ICS, only Next/Previous work. The main button (Play/Pause) has no effect.
However, when I launch the factory Music app, it responds to all controls.
To try and 'debug' the issue, I downloaded a trial of "Headset Droid" app, and used its BlueTooth command monitor debugging facility. As expected, it correctly intercepted and confirmed the Next/Previous button pushes, however failed to acknowledge the Play/Pause functionality.
Has a bug report been filed regarding this issue? Can anyone suggest a workaround?
Thanks - Anj
I have the same issue. Previously - my Nexus One running stock/unrooted 2.3.6 worked perfectly for play/pause/next/previous/start|end call on cheap Chinese Bluetooth headphones. Been using them for weeks with Subsonic, flawlessly.
Moved to Galaxy Nexus, 4.0.1 (apparently .2 hasn't rolled for my geography yet) - same headphones, only next/previous/start|end call work. Play/Pause does nothing in either state, whether I am in Subsonic or not. Haven't tried Music yet as I never use it (lets face it, its of limited value outside the US!).
But I did notice that if I press and hold for quite a while, the play/pause button, it seems to stop the music in some way that isn't quite pause, but nothing else works after that, you have to manually restart it from the app.
(anecdotally, I have the unsubstantiated feeling that some/all system sounds are not piped to the headphones as effectively as Gingerbread. But I haven't tested this yet)
Finally, I note I have occasionally used these headphones on my Honeycomb tablet - Asus Transformer, 3.2.1(?) and it behaves the same as the Nexus One, not the Galaxy Nexus so this is definitely an ICS issue.
I have reported this fault on code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=23172 - please add to the comments so that it gathers momentum as an important issue.
I hate to post a me-too, but me too :-(
I'm using doggcatcher on a rooted verizon galaxy nexus on the stock 4.0.2 firmware. My headphones are a sony MW600. Play/pause/ffw/rew don't work in doggcatcher.
I started up google music and went through the setup wizard. the AVRCP buttons work for google music only. Enabling/disabling doggcatcher's "bind to headset forcefully" option has no effect.
I used Titanium Backup to make a backup of Google Music, and then uninstall it. Now Doggcatcher responds to AVRCP button-presses. Anyone else want to give it a try?
Thanks daoist,
Can you confirm that you have to be root to use that particular functionality of Titanium Backup?
Thanks again - Anj
Interesting. Now it seems like google music and Pandora both respond to it. But google listen does not.
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I'm having the same issues with my Galaxy Nexus as well. I starred the link mentioned above. I'm using a Plantronics Voyager Pro HD and none of my music controls work. I also can't tap the call button to engage a voice search or anything. I hope Google fixes this sometime soon...This makes my headset quite a bit less useful...
I can confirm the issue on my Gnex LTE running 4.0.2. Google Music works fine. I don't know why, but Doggcatcher is also working fine (Play/Pause works). I noticed that there is a setting in Doggcatcher for "bind to headset" and "start application" - both of which are checked on mine, so maybe that's why it's working.
However, both Pandora and Mog are not working with Play/Pause and there are no headset options in the app settings. So either 1) apps just need to be updated for ICS, or 2) something is amiss in ICS that prevents other apps from using the headset controls. Most likely the latter...
Apparently the developers of Media Button Router have "fixed" this issue.
See here: code.google.com/p/media-button-router/issues/detail?id=10#c5
Download from here: market.android.com/details?id=com.harleensahni.android.mbr&hl=en
I can confirm that after installing Media Button Router and configuring to send all BT commands to Spotify - I no longer have the Play/Pause problem.
Thanks - Anj
qman66 said:
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP) is not working on any app. i tried it with my headphones to play/pause and skip a song and nothing. same thing on my car. so its definitely the phone causing the problem. anyone else?
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I use beyondpod for podcasts - and avrcp works fine.. worth mentioning that I'm not using google music.
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anj747 said:
Apparently the developers of Media Button Router have "fixed" this issue.
See here: code.google.com/p/media-button-router/issues/detail?id=10#c5
Download from here: market.android.com/details?id=com.harleensahni.android.mbr&hl=en
I can confirm that after installing Media Button Router and configuring to send all BT commands to Spotify - I no longer have the Play/Pause problem.
Thanks - Anj
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that works but EVERY time i hit the play/pause button on my mw600 the prompt comes up, freaking annoying, can we have the app that just does the play pause, i dont wnat it to come up asking me what to play pause.
Sorry to revive but i've got an in-car bluetooth and the AVRCP doesn't seem to work with ICS either.. the first time I click play and the first time I click "next track" on the car after the phone connects, the phone will respond correctly, but will not respond to any subsequent buttons until I press the power button on my phone... It's almost like ICS is sitting on all the commands sent to it's AVRCP like a stack, and when I power the phone (either on or into standby), the next click is executed (without any clicks on the car at the time)..
eg: if I hit "Next" twice and "Rew" once on my car, then every time I tap the power button (between on and sleep), it would execute Next, Next and Rew in that order. I have a lock pattern on my phone too, not sure if that's hampering the AVRCP commands either... only way to get out of this is to turn the BT off on the GNEX then on again.. but it does the same thing after the first succesful AVRCP command again.

My remaining miscellaneous questions

Ok, I've had the F400S for about a week now, and it's rooted and pimped up a bit with XPosed and GravotyBox.
I'm wondering:
1) Is there any way to change the [Settings > Shortcut key] settings? I would like to set holding volume up to open something else.
2) I listen to podcasts (through headphones) more than anything else on the phone. Right now, pressing play on the headphones with no audio app loaded will load Music app. I would instead like to default to my podcast app (Pocket Casts). It seems this default setting can't be done openly/officially, so I'm wondering if there's a nerdier way to do it.
3) Is anyone else having issue with the built in quite hours function? [Settings > Sound > Quiet Mode] For me, it starts ok, switches to silent and no led, but it doesn't return to normal after the time range ends.
4) I would like to disable or freeze most the LG and korean apps. Are there any that I shouldn't because it is known to cause problems? Normally I would experiment through trial and error, but because there's no ClockworkMod Recovery yet (or is there?) I cant make the backups I'm used to doing before experimenting.
1. I believe there is an xposed module for that. At least there was a while ago that I used on my note 3.
2. I think tasker could work
Current Devices:
LG G3
Samsung Note 3
Nexus 7 (2013)
LG G Pad 8.3
Pilz474 said:
2. I think tasker could work
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I tried getting Tasker to run Pocket Casts when headphones are plugged in, which works, but pressing the headphone button still starts music from the Music app.
4) I freeze all of the Korean carrier app on my S, the phone seems to be working fine.
The only problem I have is some app has built-in Korean (e.g. Dialer, Ringtone selector...etc) which I am waiting to replace.
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2) I listen to podcasts (through headphones) more than anything else on the phone. Right now, pressing play on the headphones with no audio app loaded will load Music app. I would instead like to default to my podcast app (Pocket Casts). It seems this default setting can't be done openly/officially, so I'm wondering if there's a nerdier way to do it.
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I solved this using Tasker and Send Intent.
In Tasker I created a "Headset Plugged Any" event with the task Send Intent of Action "au.com.shiftyjelly.pocketcasts.action.PAUSE" (this intent is for Pocket Casts)

[Q] Having trouble with Bluetooth connectivity and autoplaying music

So the issue is very weird and I can't think of a good explanation for it. Occasionally, when my bluetooth automatically connects to my car stereo, Walkman will start automatically and start playing music. Other times, it connects to bluetooth automatically, but the music never turns on. I see a Walkman Bluetooth service in the task manager, but it still won't connect. Sometimes it will connect when I turn the car stereo back on after it was previously connected, other times it won't work. Sometimes I will kill the Walkman service entirely and it will turn on automatically, other times it won't. When it doesn't turn on automatically, I can always start it up with no problem manually, but as you can guess while driving this isn't a great idea.
Has anybody experienced this or know what might be wrong? I haven't had this issue on any previous phone; they always started the music automatically. I'm using the latest build of SlimKit, but this has happened with previous ROMs.
festizzio said:
So the issue is very weird and I can't think of a good explanation for it. Occasionally, when my bluetooth automatically connects to my car stereo, Walkman will start automatically and start playing music. Other times, it connects to bluetooth automatically, but the music never turns on. I see a Walkman Bluetooth service in the task manager, but it still won't connect. Sometimes it will connect when I turn the car stereo back on after it was previously connected, other times it won't work. Sometimes I will kill the Walkman service entirely and it will turn on automatically, other times it won't. When it doesn't turn on automatically, I can always start it up with no problem manually, but as you can guess while driving this isn't a great idea.
Has anybody experienced this or know what might be wrong? I haven't had this issue on any previous phone; they always started the music automatically. I'm using the latest build of SlimKit, but this has happened with previous ROMs.
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I have a Highline stereo in my car and have similar problems with sometimes failing on first connect. As I have never had this issue with any other of my Bluetooth devices I put it down to the car stereo rather than the phone.
There is a bluetooth config file that needs to match up with what the car stereo is expecting, which would explain why it works on some roms and not on others. If you find a rom that it works on, copy and paste it into a rom where it doesn't .
I used to have to do that with my galaxyS2 to get it to talk to the car. I believe its in system/etc/bluetooth main.conf or audio.conf
Also, I'm not sure the Walkman app is so good and might be the source of the problem. I have noticed that it struggles to play mix albums and can be a bit flakey if it doesn't have a working internet connection when you first turn it on.
Poweramp has a 'resume on Bluetooth' option and plays mixes seamlessly, always starting to play as soon as there is a connection.
This probably wasn't the answer you wanted
EDIT: Lots of people have complained about 'Thow' and how useless it is, and how it stops a device connecting sometimes, try freezing the throw app with Titanium, might be the culprit.
Thanks for your input! I tried using Power Amp to see if there was any difference, and without opening it at all, it connected to Bluetooth immediately. This looks like a good sign.
I will also try freezing Throw and using Walkman, as I would like a free option as well. Thanks so much!
I am interested to know, did freezing 'throw' fix your problem?
Tried Power Amp with the start on Bluetooth option checked, same thing started happening. I don't have the Pro Titanium Backup, so I just backed it up first then un-installed it. I'll be able to test if it worked in a little while, and will post back here!
So I was able to uninstall Throw and started using Google Play music, but it still doesn't autoplay sometimes. It seems more consistent, although that could be a placebo effect since I hadn't tested it a whole lot before. I can't think of what else might be wrong, except maybe it's my stereo.

prevent app from automatically closing by task manager in kitkat

I listen to music via Bluetooth streaming in my car using the factory MUSIC app. I'd like to be able to get into the car, turn on the BT streaming mode on my car audio and automatically begin playing music. However, the factory task manager automatically closes the MUSIC app after I get out of the car and I have to load it manually each time.
Being that everyone recommends that with KitKat one shouldn't install a task killer/manager other than what's from the factory....how can this be done?
Is there any way to put the music on an exclusion list?
Thanks in advance.
If understand correctly, you want the music to continue playing on your phone's speaker when disconnected from your car audio?
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If understand correctly, you want the music to continue playing on your phone's speaker when disconnected from your car audio?
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negative, the music will pause automatically when the music app detects a break in bluetooth connection when I turn off the car. What I need is for the MUSIC app itself to continue running in the background (it's not a big resource or battery hog) for when I get into my car for a seamless transition back to playing music.... because once the phone shuts down the app I need to load it again...a PITA.
Thanks.
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negative, the music will pause automatically when the music app detects a break in bluetooth connection when I turn off the car. What I need is for the MUSIC app itself to continue running in the background (it's not a big resource or battery hog) for when I get into my car for a seamless transition back to playing music.... because once the phone shuts down the app I need to load it again...a PITA.
Thanks.
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It will continue running in the background, this isn't really a task killer problem but more of an app thing.. For example, I use play music and it resumes playing once I connect to Bluetooth again even if I kill it myself.. I would check the settings if you haven't already and see if there's is a setting for it, I've seen other apps with settings like that, but don't know about the stock music app
it is not in fact running in the background. No such option in setting either. Anyone know of any app that could make it be ignored by the default task manager?
You can do it with xposed if interested
The head unit in your car may have something to do with it.
Factory? Aftermarket?
I have a Kenwood w/7in touch screen and if my BT on phone is enabled as soon as the Kenwood starts up whatever app was running before will start playing automatically, Samsung music app, Amazon music app..
If Milk music or Pandora I have to launch app.
Pp.
there are a few apps on the market with that name.... also do I need root access? As far as the head unit it's a factory stereo Infiniti q50
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there are a few apps on the market with that name....
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It's not on the market and you need root access.. If you are interested do a quick search for xposed on Google and go to the one here on XDA, read about it on the thread and how to use it, install it, open it, and search for a module called app settings, in there you have an option to always keep in memory for whatever app you want so just select stock player. Keeping the music player running may not even be the solution, but it is a possibility.. As the previous poster stated, there are apps that just lack autoplay feature.. It is also possible that some other music app or app that uses Bluetooth may conflict with it, preventing it from auto playing

Question Anyone experienced a change in Bluetooth audio quality since Android 12?

Sup guys,
After updating to Android 12 I immediately noticed a difference in audio quality when connecting my Fold3 to my car via Bluetooth. It sounds like I'm in a big concert hall. Dolby Atmos was always on auto, before and after the update. Right now it sounds just bad. I can't listen to songs without noticing it. When changing Dolby Atmos to "Voice", it sounds a little bit better but the fact that it is such a big difference compared to Android 11 Bluetooth sound makes me wonder if its a bug.
Has anyone experienced the same problem and/or has a solution to it?
Thanks
HeyHooBanana said:
Sup guys,
After updating to Android 12 I immediately noticed a difference in audio quality when connecting my Fold3 to my car via Bluetooth. It sounds like I'm in a big concert hall. Dolby Atmos was always on auto, before and after the update. Right now it sounds just bad. I can't listen to songs without noticing it. When changing Dolby Atmos to "Voice", it sounds a little bit better but the fact that it is such a big difference compared to Android 11 Bluetooth sound makes me wonder if its a bug.
Has anyone experienced the same problem and/or has a solution to it?
Thanks
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You can try clearing the system cache and a network reset.
Check the bluetooth audio settings in Developer options. Double check all audio settings.
Factory reset if you haven't already after a major firmware upgrade.
Rule #1 if an OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission... let it be.
HeyHooBanana said:
Sup guys,
After updating to Android 12 I immediately noticed a difference in audio quality when connecting my Fold3 to my car via Bluetooth. It sounds like I'm in a big concert hall. Dolby Atmos was always on auto, before and after the update. Right now it sounds just bad. I can't listen to songs without noticing it. When changing Dolby Atmos to "Voice", it sounds a little bit better but the fact that it is such a big difference compared to Android 11 Bluetooth sound makes me wonder if its a bug.
Has anyone experienced the same problem and/or has a solution to it?
Thanks
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I did have this at first but only on the voice guidance in google maps, I left it and it fixed itself
Not that issue, but now after restarting my phone (due to something draining it), the bass is noticeably weaker, and I'm talking about on my Tribit speaker with a subwoofer in it and Extra Bass setting on. I can't find any settings that are different, but I swear the last time I played it was after the update to 12. So odd!!
ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy said:
Not that issue, but now after restarting my phone (due to something draining it), the bass is noticeably weaker, and I'm talking about on my Tribit speaker with a subwoofer in it and Extra Bass setting on. I can't find any settings that are different, but I swear the last time I played it was after the update to 12. So odd!!
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Check what codec it's using in Developer options and other bt settings.
Network reset.
Try playing with these two...
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blackhawk said:
Check what codec it's using in Developer options and other bt settings.
Network reset.
Try playing with these two...
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It is using aptX as I set it, for both that speaker and my car stereo (Android car stereo, Bose speakers/subwoofer set with huge bass in the stereo's EQ, and the bass was also noticeably less when I drove today). I have too many Bluetooth and Wi-Fi networks set to try resetting them, but I will check those two settings you pointed out. Thanks!
ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy said:
It is using aptX as I set it, for both that speaker and my car stereo (Android car stereo, Bose speakers/subwoofer set with huge bass in the stereo's EQ, and the bass was also noticeably less when I drove today). I have too many Bluetooth and Wi-Fi networks set to try resetting them, but I will check those two settings you pointed out. Thanks!
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Unfortunately you can't boost what isn't there.
ApkX isn't that good of a codec. The 2 best bt codecs on that phone are SCC and LDAC*.
The Cport/DAC route would yield an exponential improvement if the optimum interfaces are present.
Maybe use old LG or HTC phone as a dedicated server. Get one that supports at least a 250gb SD card. Any wav files you have, kept as such. If any are HDCDs you'll lose the digital HDCD encoding by converting them and with it a lot of added resolution that HDCD**s bring.
PowerAmp is a great music player if you have the hardware/through put to support it.
*try all the codecs at maximum bitrate and sample rate. SBC may work better if you can increase the bitrate.
**If ripped as wav files the HDCD encoding is preserved. A 24 bit DAC can extract about 90% of that for a significant boost in resolution as well as sound stage.
Many HDCDs are not marked, but you can hear it right away vs a 16 bit wav file. A HDCD's resolution approaches about 22 bits. 24 bit digital through put is needed to preserve it though until it reaches the end stage 24 bit or higher DAC.
blackhawk said:
Unfortunately you can't boost what isn't there.
ApkX isn't that good of a codec. The 2 best bt codecs on that phone are SCC and LDAC*.
The Cport/DAC route would yield an exponential improvement if the optimum interfaces are present.
Maybe use old LG or HTC phone as a dedicated server. Get one that supports at least a 250gb SD card. Any wav files you have, kept as such. If any are HDCDs you'll lose the digital HDCD encoding by converting them and with it a lot of added resolution that HDCD**s bring.
PowerAmp is a great music player if you have the hardware/through put to support it.
*try all the codecs at maximum bitrate and sample rate. SBC may work better if you can increase the bitrate.
**If ripped as wav files the HDCD encoding is preserved. A 24 bit DAC can extract about 90% of that for a significant boost in resolution as well as sound stage.
Many HDCDs are not marked, but you can hear it right away vs a 16 bit wav file. A HDCD's resolution approaches about 22 bits. 24 bit digital through put is needed to preserve it though until it reaches the end stage 24 bit or higher DAC.
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The sound and bass worked perfectly fine on aptX on this phone and my previous phone, up until I had to reset this phone the other day when something was draining the battery, which was the first reset since upgrading to Android 12. Now, the bass is noticeably weaker than it has been for years.
I don't need or want an additional device, just need this phone to go back to how it was working last week and prior. The songs were downloaded from iTunes, transferred via iSyncr (and SmartSwitch from my old phone), and are played on the phone on Rocket Player Pro (car stereo uses the built-in Bluetooth player). Nothing is wrong with the setup or songs, just suddenly the bass stopped being loud/boomy enough via Bluetooth.
ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy said:
The sound and bass worked perfectly fine on aptX on this phone and my previous phone, up until I had to reset this phone the other day when something was draining the battery, which was the first reset since upgrading to Android 12. Now, the bass is noticeably weaker than it has been for years.
I don't need or want an additional device, just need this phone to go back to how it was working last week and prior. The songs were downloaded from iTunes, transferred via iSyncr (and SmartSwitch from my old phone), and are played on the phone on Rocket Player Pro (car stereo uses the built-in Bluetooth player). Nothing is wrong with the setup or songs, just suddenly the bass stopped being loud/boomy enough via Bluetooth.
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Just giving you options to fix your mess.
You didn't think it be easy did you?
Audio is a rabbit hole that goes very deep and once you know what you're missing you can't unlearn it.
If you haven't done a factory reset, it's time to.
After a major firmware upgrade, always.
Do not use SmartSwitch. It may work ok but if not you'll be reloading again... so there's that.
A factory reset may or may not fix it.
Roll it back to 11 if that's doable. If 11 wasn't working well then pick your poison.
This is an example of exactly why I never upgrade a fast, stable OS that's fulfilling its mission.
blackhawk said:
Just giving you options to fix your mess.
You didn't think it be easy did you?
Audio is a rabbit hole that goes very deep and once you know what you're missing you can't unlearn it.
If you haven't done a factory reset, it's time to.
After a major firmware upgrade, always.
Do not use SmartSwitch. It may work ok but if not you'll be reloading again... so there's that.
A factory reset may or may not fix it.
Roll it back to 11 if that's doable. If 11 wasn't working well then pick your poison.
This is an example of exactly why I never upgrade a fast, stable OS that's fulfilling its mission.
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I tried the volume one (which doesn't go into effect until you turn Bluetooth off and back on, BTW) and it was terrible, could barely hear the music even turning the car stereo way up. The other setting I tried and it didn't seem to make a big difference, and now next time I go in the car I need to see if the song info. will still not transfer at times - not sure if that happened before trying these settings or not, but I never had a problem with it in the past. I restarted the phone since a restart broke the bass, and it might be a little better, but it is hard to tell after you've been trying for a while. I'll see how it sounds on my portable speaker later today.
LOL, you are crazy if you think I have the time to spend doing a Factory Reset. It is bad enough getting a new phone to spend days setting it up, even after SmartSwitch, I'm not going to do it on a phone I already had. Only reason I got a new phone was because Sprint's network is being shut down, so they said I needed a new phone.
SmartSwitch works perfectly fine and saves a lot of time in setting up a new phone, otherwise it'd be weeks to set it up.
With this phone, you don't have a choice but to update 'cause they only give you three chances to delay it to the next day, then they force it on you. For T-mobile at least.
ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy said:
I tried the volume one (which doesn't go into effect until you turn Bluetooth off and back on, BTW) and it was terrible, could barely hear the music even turning the car stereo way up. The other setting I tried and it didn't seem to make a big difference, and now next time I go in the car I need to see if the song info. will still not transfer at times - not sure if that happened before trying these settings or not, but I never had a problem with it in the past. I restarted the phone since a restart broke the bass, and it might be a little better, but it is hard to tell after you've been trying for a while. I'll see how it sounds on my portable speaker later today.
LOL, you are crazy if you think I have the time to spend doing a Factory Reset. It is bad enough getting a new phone to spend days setting it up, even after SmartSwitch, I'm not going to do it on a phone I already had. Only reason I got a new phone was because Sprint's network is being shut down, so they said I needed a new phone.
SmartSwitch works perfectly fine and saves a lot of time in setting up a new phone, otherwise it'd be weeks to set it up.
With this phone, you don't have a choice but to update 'cause they only give you three chances to delay it to the next day, then they force it on you. For T-mobile at least.
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Carriers are a pain. Their OTA updates can be pure poison. One of the reasons a never upgrade a fast, stable OS that's fulfilling its mission.
OTA updates can be blocked several ways; a carrier block (yes they can do this), an adb edit or using Package Disabler which is what I do.
SmartSwitch should never be trusted with critical data bases ie photos, movies, documents, contacts, app setting exports etc.
All critical should be backup as files, folders for easy inspection/verification.
It takes me about an hour or so to recreate homepage setup without SmartSwitch. This is about the only thing I would trust it to do. If it screws up another reload at this point would waste little time. Using SmartSwitch to import settings to a different phone or OS version is known to cause issues.
Unfortunately once something you need gets goofed up it becomes one of those whatever it takes scenarios. May take minutes, hours or weeks to correct or find a workaround. Sometimes it's back to back full reloads like with an app that boot looped me twice in less then a week. That was fun. However it encouraged me to streamline my backup and reloading techniques. If I have to I will reload without blinking as in the case of malware I can't erraticate in an hour or two... or a boot loop
Keep playing with the settings. Sometimes you need to toggle them in the proper sequence or just keep playing with them until it takes. I've done that more than once with sound and bt settings, they can be a pain. I've spent more time troubleshooting bt than anything else in the last year... if that tells you something.
blackhawk said:
Carriers are a pain. Their OTA updates can be pure poison. One of the reasons a never upgrade a fast, stable OS that's fulfilling its mission.
OTA updates can be blocked several ways; a carrier block (yes they can do this), an adb edit or using Package Disabler which is what I do.
SmartSwitch should never be trusted with critical data bases ie photos, movies, documents, contacts, app setting exports etc.
All critical should be backup as files, folders for easy inspection/verification.
It takes me about an hour or so to recreate homepage setup without SmartSwitch. This is about the only thing I would trust it to do. If it screws up another reload at this point would waste little time. Using SmartSwitch to import settings to a different phone or OS version is known to cause issues.
Unfortunately once something you need gets goofed up it becomes one of those whatever it takes scenarios. May take minutes, hours or weeks to correct or find a workaround. Sometimes it's back to back full reloads like with an app that boot looped me twice in less then a week. That was fun. However it encouraged me to streamline my backup and reloading techniques. If I have to I will reload without blinking as in the case of malware I can't erraticate in an hour or two... or a boot loop
Keep playing with the settings. Sometimes you need to toggle them in the proper sequence or just keep playing with them until it takes. I've done that more than once with sound and bt settings, they can be a pain. I've spent more time troubleshooting bt than anything else in the last year... if that tells you something.
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That phone restart did work, as my portable speaker that I have in the bathroom was back to making the tub across the room vibrate with the bass, and more so once I took the speaker in the shower (it is waterproof, obviously , and drop-proof), so it's all good. Phew! 'Cause I love bass.
I've never had an issue with SmartSwitch and this is the second phone I've used it with. Since this phone doesn't have an SD card like my previous one, it was even more necessary than doing it via another method. As it is, it takes days to set up a phone and all the apps, so trying to get settings on there, too, like WiFi and Bluetooth devices would be ridiculous.
I use the anti-virus app from my computer on my phone since they offer an app, too. (It is a real anti-virus, not a virus itself like the cheap OEMs.) I also don't download porn, so....
ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy said:
That phone restart did work, as my portable speaker that I have in the bathroom was back to making the tub across the room vibrate with the bass, and more so once I took the speaker in the shower (it is waterproof, obviously , and drop-proof), so it's all good. Phew! 'Cause I love bass.
I've never had an issue with SmartSwitch and this is the second phone I've used it with. Since this phone doesn't have an SD card like my previous one, it was even more necessary than doing it via another method. As it is, it takes days to set up a phone and all the apps, so trying to get settings on there, too, like WiFi and Bluetooth devices would be ridiculous.
I use the anti-virus app from my computer on my phone since they offer an app, too. (It is a real anti-virus, not a virus itself like the cheap OEMs.) I also don't download porn, so....
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Yay!
You can use a OTG flashstick for quick dirty backups. Make sure the majority of the critical data is backed up redundantly to at least two hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
On Android 9 and higher antivirus isn't needed. Just be careful what you install and download.
I will scan apps and downloads with online Virustotal.
I run a Malwarebytes scan once a month or if needed. Android is fairly secure... and I do like porn. You know for security integrity testing.
blackhawk said:
Yay!
You can use a OTG flashstick for quick dirty backups. Make sure the majority of the critical data is backed up redundantly to at least two hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
On Android 9 and higher antivirus isn't needed. Just be careful what you install and download.
I will scan apps and downloads with online Virustotal.
I run a Malwarebytes scan once a month or if needed. Android is fairly secure... and I do like porn. You know for security integrity testing.
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Of course once that issue was fixed, my car stereo's notification panel froze on the screen with the first pull-down (one row of buttons) visible, but not working, and unable to pull it down to restart the stereo. That made several features unavailable, including increasing the volume and the EQ settings, so the bass was not there at all - so weird! If it ain't one thing, it's another!
The anti-virus is free (part of what I'm already paying for for my desktop computer), so might as well use it. It has other features, too.
Yes, security integrity testing is important, just make sure you have a well-oiled machine at the ready. ;-)

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