Hoping you could help me.
I switched from o2 to orange and got a desire in april. one of the first things I did was debrand it, now I'm running defrost. The problem is, it's never worked properly and I'm getting sick of it, so it's going back to orange. My problem is that I can get internet fine on GPRS and HSDPA, I've never seen the EDGE symbol and if I'm only on 3G (not HSDPA) I cannot get any data at all (ever).
I've tried every radio in existence, does anyone else have this problem?
Anyway, I called tech support earlier and they asked do I have 3G symbol in upper or lower case. I can't remember how it looks on the stock orange rom, I know hsdpa is 3G+ but besides that I can't remember whether it's upper or lower case. Could someone please let me know.
Also, anyone got a link for the stock orange rom?
Pretty sure it is all uppercase.
+1 to uppercase. Lots of people have the same problem. I have in some situations been able to use UMTS 3G but 90% of the time it just stalls for ten seconds and then reverts to GPRS o HSDPA. Since I've been away from the city, I've started getting EDGE connections quite frequently.
Orange data seems extremely unstable for me. Especially annoying when im with someone and i tell them "oh let me just check google maps" and then nothing happens even though i've got full signal and H/3G.
Same here in Glasgow.
Debranded Orange with stock ROM and I can often have full 3G+/H coverage but no data throughput
This is an inherant problem though, even though you may have four bars of signal from the local cell, there's no guarantee of any data bandwidth on that cell.
Think of it like my home network:
I have an Apple Airport Wi-Fi base station providing my wireless network.
I then connect it this into my DSL router via an ethernet cable.
Now, even if my DSL connection is down, the router is fully utilised, down, or the ethernet cable to the Airport is down - my Desire, iPod Touch, Laptop etc will all display full wireless connectivity, but I can't do any browsing on them
Thanks guys, I knew there were widespread problems but didn't know whether or not everyone had the same symptoms. Pretty irritating, I'm getting pretty sick of not being able to rely on my phone! I had an unlocked g1 on o2 previously and in comparison it was awesome. I'm definitely going to tell Orange this isn't good enough.
Sadly, I don't think getting a replacement is going to help. Completely spoils an otherwise amazing phone.
I'll never recommend thus to anyone!
Phone> "*#*#4636#*#* >phone information > preferred network type > GSM Auto (PRL)
That did it for me
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I had the same problem. My advise to you all is do what I did, call Orange executive office, tell them the problem and that you'd like to cancel your contract because they are not supplying what you pay for. Then go to tmob, and get the same contract, except the mobile internet works 100% of the time. Just a heads up, I had an 8 month battle with Orange over this. Now on tmob, and I've never been happier.
I bet if you phone customer services over this they'll say "we've never heard of this issue before" even though they've heard it loads. Orange are not acknowledging the problem exists.
PS I hate Orange (incase you couldn't tell!)
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Thanks, that's good to know. I've had some experience of what the exec customer complaints team do at work -its a very effective route!
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So i've had the HTC Desire for a week now and i'm starting to think there's either an issue with the phone or with the T-mobile (UK) network.
When the phone shows 'H' , browsing the net, downloading, or using the marketplace is a snap.
However, when this dips to 3G, either no data seems to be relayed to the phone or it does so incredibly slowly.
This means, web pages or marketplace often ask me to retry as no data connection is available.
I don't think it's a signal strength issue as i have 3bars when connecting under 3G.
Has anyone else experienced this?
*(worth noting that i got the latest OTA update pushed out today , and still have the issue)
*(Posted this in the UK tmobile forum too, to see if tmob have anything to say)
ninjakettle said:
So i've had the HTC Desire for a week now and i'm starting to think there's either an issue with the phone or with the T-mobile (UK) network.
When the phone shows 'H' , browsing the net, downloading, or using the marketplace is a snap.
However, when this dips to 3G, either no data seems to be relayed to the phone or it does so incredibly slowly.
This means, web pages or marketplace often ask me to retry as no data connection is available.
I don't think it's a signal strength issue as i have 3bars when connecting under 3G.
Has anyone else experienced this?
*(worth noting that i got the latest OTA update pushed out today , and still have the issue)
*(Posted this in the UK tmobile forum too, to see if tmob have anything to say)
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It is the Network.
Hero / G2 owners have had lot's of issues and last week I was in Europe with my Desire and I had 100% perfect connection 99% on H Speed (even on the underground!)
Came back here and 3G simply does not work anywhere near as good or actually at all!
H or G2 only it seems.
T-Mobile Customer Service feel that not having 3G is fine and acceptable as you are not paying for 3G and they are meeting their requirements of providing the ability to make calls, send text's and have net acces via 2G.
- cheers for that info. I've actually seen the issues with the G2 (hero) you mention on the Tmob forums. Can't believe so many users are being ignored.
Just disgraceful. I wish i knew this before signing up with them. I can't get H in my office, only 3G and it's useless
Is this network issue location specific, or does it affect of the UK? Presumably London or another major city shouldn't have this issue.
I live and work in central london.
Calll TM up I had a new QOS policy applied to my account and also I was told the MMS settings were affecting my speed.. I used speedtest.net app to see what speed I had no more than 300k on both 3G and HSPDA.. It is now fluctuating between 1500k and 2300k
They are still looking in to my issue thats why it keeps fluctuating..
Defo worth giving them a call
any updates ninjak?
i was VERY tempted to get T-mobile deal on this but now im not so certain...
Hmmm, my connection has been perfect no connection drops...ironic my BT line has gone fault (pretty much dead) and im using my Desire to tether internet on t-mobiles network till they come fix my landline on monday...so yeah no problems here
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Hmmm, my connection has been perfect no connection drops...ironic my BT line has gone fault (pretty much dead) and im using my Desire to tether internet on t-mobiles network till they come fix my landline on monday...so yeah no problems here
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Where abouts in Manchester are you based? The coverage in my neck of the woods is shady to say the least.
Central......Ardwick (Apollo Theatre)
Having the same issues on T-Mobile Netherlands lately. It already started with my G2. But with the Desire I constantly need to retry... Let's hope we don't have faulty handsets...
I don't seem to have any problems downloading when I have the 3g or H symbol, but occasionally those symbols disappear altogether suggesting the mobile network option is turned off, but its not and it still shows 3/4 bars suggesting it has a signal. I had to reset my phone this afternoon so I could actually use data, bit annoying really.
^ sorry double post..
anyone in milton keynes? with first hand experience?
Can anyone confirm what actually happens when you lose connection to the net via 3G?
My browser has "hung" a few times - page will stop loading, and neither a refresh choosing a link from bookmarks will work. In fact this stops my browsing completely - even using Advance Task Killer to kill the browser doesn't solve the problem, and I have to reboot the phone.
Are these the symptoms people are seeing here, or something else? I didnt notice at the time whether I had the 3G symbok, or the H.
T-Mobile is really bad network i was stuck with them for 18 months on my G1 poor mobile internet and phone signal, once i download some app for it, which tells you with a noise when you loose your signal. omg had to uninstall the app becasue it went off so many times. Now on vodafone with my HTC Desire much better in the warrington (in middle of manchester and liverpool) area. A while back my dad said T-Mobile used to be that bad he had to go into the garden to make a call..
There seems to be something wrong with the settings IMO.
HSDPA is nowhere near as fast as it should be I don't think. There was a topic saying if you change the APN you get faster internet but I didn't try it.
Does anyone have the TMobile handset, but flashed a generic ROM?
Does this problem still exist with the generic ROM?
I want to stay with TMobile as the prices are easily better than anyone else, but NOT if this internet/data problem persists. I would rather pay the extra £100 to Vodafone over the course of 18mths to get solid data connection.
I will be rooting my phone when the method is made public/reliable etc, so want to know if this problem goes away.
setspeed said:
Does anyone have the TMobile handset, but flashed a generic ROM?
Does this problem still exist with the generic ROM?
I want to stay with TMobile as the prices are easily better than anyone else, but NOT if this internet/data problem persists. I would rather pay the extra £100 to Vodafone over the course of 18mths to get solid data connection.
I will be rooting my phone when the method is made public/reliable etc, so want to know if this problem goes away.
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snap this Question needs an answer please
Anyone else looking forward to the T-Mobile Orange merger? Hopefully I'll end up with Orange's coverage on their street checker, haha.
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Love love love my Desire. Few little problems here and there (Music Genre, Battery life etc) but the one main thing that is really bugging me is, that if I lose reception (I live in a area with lots of valleys), it will never regain reception even if I enter a town centre or City. I always have to either switch Airplane mode on then off. Or more often than not, turn the phone off completely and switch it back on, where it then finds reception straight away.
Anyone else getting this?
I'm on Vodafone and using the latest Generic Rom
I'm not sure if this is the same problem, sometimes i
have no data connection (i guess 3x since i have the phone).
I see some bars but no Edge or H (3g) sign and obviously i have not data connection ... dunno if the phone part work, will try next time.
anyway, i could get the data connection back by switching from 3g to GPRS mode and later back. You can see in the bar that for a very short time all GSM connection is gone ... i guess it's similar to switching to airplane mode ...
Maybe it's worth a try for you, maybe it's totally useless
btw: i'm living in a city, the nearest celltower is just a few meters away.
I have similar issues but I had the same issues with my ADP, not just the Desire.
Inside my University buildings I lose reception very often and the GSM connection always reestablishes itself but not the Data connection. When I reboot my phone the same thing happens. There is a good chance that the Data connection wont initialize and I have to switch to Airplane mode and back to get the Data connection. Really frustrating sometimes :/
Another very, very annoying problem I have is that sometimes it shows a data connection but it can't be used. It shows E/3G/H but whenever I start an app which uses data, it always times out.
Another problem, which is probably not fixable, is that my Phone likes to jump between E/3G/H quite a lot and every time it does do so, it seems like the app using the data connection has to reestablish the connection. This led to quite some timeouts when it was constantly jumping around.
I get poor 3G reception on my desire ( orange UK ) , have to go outside in the rain to get a better reception
CharlieCharlie24 said:
Love love love my Desire. Few little problems here and there (Music Genre, Battery life etc) but the one main thing that is really bugging me is, that if I lose reception (I live in a area with lots of valleys), it will never regain reception even if I enter a town centre or City. I always have to either switch Airplane mode on then off. Or more often than not, turn the phone off completely and switch it back on, where it then finds reception straight away.
Anyone else getting this?
I'm on Vodafone and using the latest Generic Rom
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vodafone have been getting worse and worse of late, I travel from surrey to london (central) every morning and was getting the same thing. I was even getting this all the time with a blackberry 9700, It is not the phone as I tried tmobile sim card in the same areas and didn't have the problem. Only 8 months to go of my contract which I will not be renewing.
I have an issue where if I use wifI at home for an evening, when I switch wifi off, the 3g data connection does not re connect. If I re boot, it connects immediately.
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vodafone have been getting worse and worse of late, I travel from surrey to london (central) every morning and was getting the same thing. I was even getting this all the time with a blackberry 9700, It is not the phone as I tried tmobile sim card in the same areas and didn't have the problem. Only 8 months to go of my contract which I will not be renewing.
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the sites around the areas might actually be down try calling and checking that out
CharlieCharlie24 said:
... if I lose reception (I live in a area with lots of valleys), it will never regain reception ... I'm on Vodafone and using the latest Generic Rom
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Assuming Vodafone uses Sim cards. I just had the same issue, here in the states with AT&T. I thought my Tilt was at fault so I borrowed a little Samsung flip phone and put my Sim in it but it did the same thing.
I had AT&T replace my Sim card and so far, 48+ hours, it hasn't happened again on my Tilt.
Might be worth a try.
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Assuming Vodafone uses Sim cards. I just had the same issue, here in the states with AT&T. I thought my Tilt was at fault so I borrowed a little Samsung flip phone and put my Sim in it but it did the same thing.
I had AT&T replace my Sim card and so far, 48+ hours, it hasn't happened again on my Tilt.
Might be worth a try.
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Thanks, might try changing the Radio version and see if that helps first, if not will give Vodafone a call.
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I have similar issues but I had the same issues with my ADP, not just the Desire.
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Another very, very annoying problem I have is that sometimes it shows a data connection but it can't be used. It shows E/3G/H but whenever I start an app which uses data, it always times out.
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I have this same problem at home (in South London) with my desire and had it with my G1 too (both on T-Mobile). I'm pretty sure it's a network issue rather than android or the phone. I constantly have 3 bars of H signal and during the daytime it's blazing fast but after around 5pm and all day at the weekends it becomes basically unusable with network timeouts more often than usable connections. I work 40 miles away down south and I get a consistently fast data connection down there with none of the time out problems.
I also tried using a t-mobile sim in a 3g dongle and had the same issues, it was great during the day and incredibly slow with loads of timeouts in the eve. It reminds me of when unmetered ISPs first came out and couldn't cope with the amount of bandwidth being used, I'm pretty sure this is a similar capacity problem in some areas.
I've been in touch with t-mobile and they are escalating it to 3rd line support so will wait and see what happens. As it's at home I can use wifi and it's not the end of the world but it some respects I wish I hadn't upgraded and switched networks instead, my gf's on O2 with the phone that is not to be named and doesn't have this problem at all.
In response to your most recent query on a different thread you had posted (now closed):
Will changing the radio help me?
Currently got this issue happening daily
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676866
If I lose reception at any point, I have to either turn Airplane Mode on and off or restart the phone to get ANY sort of reception.
Currently on 1.15.405.4 Generic Rom with Baseband version 32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11
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Yes, by updating the Radio version this can improve things like battery life, network reception, Wi-Fi, and GPS signal strength, but this also depends on your region - it will either work better for you or could be worse. It may be worthwhile changing to Radio 4.06.00.02 for a few days and try to establish whether or not it improves your situation. If it doesn't, then just revert back to the stock Radio version.
I had a very similar problem on my Touch Diamond 2. It turned out to be a faulty aerial and had to go back to HTC for repair. Worked ok for a while after that, then it started again. An update to their latest ROM then solved it. So a hardware issue and a seperate software issue both produced the same fault for me.
Hi everyone,
I have a generic unlocked desire 2.2, unrooted, as standard as they come and connected to Orange.
When I run on GSM only mode in network settings my phone is fine...
BUT..
Enable WCDMA or WCDMA auto mode.... and it will connect to 3G for about 10/20 secs then drop the whole lot, "emergency calls only" is all I can get.
I live in town with full 3G,and have tried at my girlfriends 100 miles away too. This has been going on for about 3 weeks, and so far I have.......
Hard reset a couple of times....
Had a new SIM from Orange...
Tried a different SIM (O2) in my phone - which works perfectly, sat browsing on H for about half an hour or more with no problem.
Tried my SIM in a different phone (Touch Pro) - works perfectly as well! 3G and browsing internet all fine.
So - Orange say its the handset.... and I'm not sure their 2nd level tech really exist, cos I've never got to speak to them or had the promised callback!
and HTC reckon its a network issue.
I can see both sides, but that doesnt help when your stuck in the middle with sloooooow internet.
The only other thing I can think is that Orange dont like the fact I'm on unlimited data and using it, I hit about 900mb a month normally and 2Gb in Nov when my home broadband died for about a week. perhaps they have blocked my handset from 3G? If so they havent told me though! I have one of the panther tariffs from mid last year which were "unlimited".
Any suggestions would be very appreciated!
Thanks in advance
Chris
Sounds strange indeed......
Theoreticly speaking, they could have placed some sort of a limit on your account to reduce the load on their network, but It'll be hard to prove. (Maybe you know someone who works there???)
You can look for your plan's contract (or ask them to fax it to you) - maybe it states the minimal speed of connection....
Threaten to disconnect if your speed does not improve..... Realy can't think of anything else.
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10865272&postcount=5
Thanks,
I have tried all the options in that menu with no success.
Eventually last night I got orange 2nd level tech who was equally confused and could only suggest a radio version conflict with my handset and network.
Anyway they gave me a fault code which CPW (I purchased from mobiles.co.uk) looked at and glazed over.
I have called HTC direct now and they are having it in for warranty repair. 10 days with my old touch pro... how bad can i be?
Wouldnt surprise me if they send it back NFF........
fingers crossed!
EDIT: THE TOUCH PRO IS AWFUL!
Chris
Is anyone else having massive problems with the Orange Network in UK? My Desires signal is weak a majority of the time, if any signal at all and mobile network poor. Is it just me or is there a tweak for my phone to make the signal stronger? After chatting to a mate who has a Samsung Galaxy S, he has the same problem with Orange so i'm wondering if it is the network?
not sure probably depends on your area. One thing as Orange and t-mobile have merged in the UK you can use the t-mobile network as well as orange without additional charge.
http://help.orange.co.uk/orangeuk/support/personal/Signal-sharing
It's the network being rubbish as they're trying to merge T-Mobile and Orange. Mine is coming and going all the time and has been like that for a while. Will end up leaving them when my contract finishes as they used to have the best signal where I live.
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Something similar happened for me at home at the start of the year. Previously I had decent EDGE coverage.
Then signal came and went, all data came and went and now I have passable GPRS only. Good thing I also have decent wifi.
Long story short - its probably a signal 'upgrade' to do with the T mobile merger. One of the features of the merger is rationalisation of cells - or switching them off to you and me.
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Most likely it is Orange. Earlier this year I ring them up about 5 times complaining about the same issue. Tbh it never got dealt with but it ironed itself out. I'm not happy with Orange anyway so when my contract ends I will be changing.
Swyped...
Make sure your phone is set to auto network select...not manual ..
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Cheers guys. I think i'll be leaving Orange at the end of the contract. I notice that since the t-mobile merger my signal has got much worse.
Definitely a problem for me too, i am using a stock Desire bought sim free and get a really poor signal but my mate has an Orange branded Desire with an older firmware and gets a much better signal so may be a problem with newer rom updates.
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I found out something very interesting today.I'm on tmobile and when my phone picks up the orange signal it only a 2g signal.They don't tell you that when you sign up.I'm not sure but it might be the same set up visa versa and that would explain the signal problems.For now I have selected tmobile only and things have been better and I noticed a difference straight away.Tmobile has a message on the Customer Service line saying that sometime in the near future we will be able to use orange 3g as well,though i'm not sure if that means orange customers can use tmobile 3g,although I should think it would..
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Same for Orange, they said we will be able to pick up T-mobile 3G signal sometime in the future.........until then, when the Orange signal is ****, not very good, i get standard T-mob signal, sorry Orange, but i'm also off at the end of my current contract, the signal is garbage.
I have a Vodafone Sure Signal femtocell device, which connects to my broadband and provides a localised 3G signal in my house, as network reception here is poor.
I have 2 other phones connected to the SS just fine, but the One X is intermittently losing the connection and needs a reboot to re-connect. There have been some other posts on the Vodafone UK forums from folks with a One X, not many but enough to make me wonder if there's a more common problem.
Does anyone else here have a Sure Signal, and if so, are you having any problems with it?
I don't personally have it but my friend does and he is getting drops constantly he is not best pleased as he had yellow spot issue aswell aha i think he's going to thro the OX off the wall shortly. He has phoned regarding this and got nowhere
Thanks for the reply. VF have contacted me after I posted on their eforums, I've raised a ticket and they're investigating. I'll report back if anything improves.
VF UK are really pushing the One X, so if there is a problem, I imagine they'll want to get it fixed.
do the vodafone handsets have vodafone firmware? i have a factory unlocked non branded unit I'm using on vodafone with SS and hab=ve had zero problems!
Thanks for the reply. I got mine from dialaphone and it's pure stock WWE. It's working now, but still a little flakey. If it loses connection to the SS, I turn airplane mode off and on again and it works again (quicker than a reboot).
Most of the One X users with problems on the VF forum have their old number on a new sim card, which apparently can cause the Sure Signal to bug out a bit until the new sim is registered. Mine is a brand new number though. It's lasting a day or so before I have any issues.
The SS has always been a little on the flakey side, though, I need to reset it every so often - but that's been weeks or months apart rather than days.
I have one of the older models with 4 lights, not sure if that makes a difference.
Half wondering if it's the phone not the SS, but will see how it goes for the next few days.
I have had very poor suresignal performance...and have swapped out one phone already after speaking to HTC.
But have found that by turning off WIFI, it seems to be a lot happier, and the replacement phone acts just the same as the first (sim free from CPW)
But without WIFI, all data comes out of your data plan, and not from your broadband even thought the SS uses the broadband connection.
I never got to the bottom of my sure signal problems with this phone until I installed cyanogenmod.
However I recently installed sense 5 and my phone would again not connect to my sure signal. I have gone back to cyanogenmod and the problem still exisits.
Can someone who uses a sure signal please tell me which radio you are using by going to settings, about phone, baseband version
Many thanks