Nand backup noob question - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Im currently running the following...
3.75 fps fix kernel
Rooted through unrevoked3
1.47 ota unrevoked update.
Im wanting to try cm6. So im going to have to reroot through simpleroot for cm6. My question is if I take a nand backup of my current running system , is restoring it as simple as running recovery and selecting restore? I've rooted devices before just never have ran diffrent roms than stock ones.
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Yes it is. You probably want to do a data and cache wipe before restoring, just to be safe.

Yes and no. If you do a nand of your unrevoked rooted phone then do full root then decide to restore your old rom you will wind up with unrevoked back instead of a full root rom running on top of the engineering hboot which allows for unlocking nand. You would probably be better off flashing another 2.1 based rooted rom even if it's a stock rooted ver rather than going back to unrevoked.

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[Q] NAND Backup Question

Hello
Im new to posting, but not new to the forums. I read this forums daily. I would like to take this time to say thank you to the whole community, I personally have benefited from all the custom roms and tutorials.
I have a question:
I was on 2.1 rooted and decided I was going to unlock my nand and get Fresh Evo rooted 2.2 rom (which is amazing by the way) so I did a NAND backup before starting the process of unlocking my nand and flashing the Fresh 2.2 evo rom. Now that I am on the 2.2 Fresh Evo rom I would like to restore my 2.1 nand backup to take a look at some important data on there, after restoring that backup can I come back to a backed up nand of 2.2 Fresh Evo rooted rom without having any problems?
Simply, can I go from 2.2 rooted to a NAND backup of 2.1 rooted stock, then come back to my 2.2 FreshEvo rom?
I appreciate the help!
Thanks
Exazrg said:
Simply, can I go from 2.2 rooted to a NAND backup of 2.1 rooted stock, then come back to my 2.2 FreshEvo rom?
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why wouldn't you be able to? just make a nand of the freshevo rom
EDIT:
<--- NOOB AS WELL
Yes you can. I keep a Nandroid of Rooted 2.1 Stock, Rooted 2.2 Stock, and my latest CM6 Nightly that works handy at all times.
Thanks!
So just simple restores will do it when switching? No need for cache wipes or anything?

[Q] Quick Question about restoring Recovery on 1.39.00.05.31

Hi,
I am Currently running a Evo with software version 1.39.00.05.31 I didn't take the 1.47 update. I rooted/iinstall custom recovery using Unrevoked3. I want to take the OTA 1.47 so I can then apply Unrevoked 4 ever and then upgrade to 2.2 and maintain root. I downloaded the 1.47 update and created a pc36img.zip file (Used it on another evo) However when I try to flash it, it doesn't work and say something about wrong version. Wondering if anyone has the recovery.img and android.txt from 1.39.00.05.31.
Also if I can't get recovery back can I use Clockwork to apply the update that was downloaded? I would rather not restore to stock and restore all my apps and such.
Thanks
detcup4evr said:
Hi,
I am Currently running a Evo with software version 1.39.00.05.31 I didn't take the 1.47 update. I rooted/iinstall custom recovery using Unrevoked3. I want to take the OTA 1.47 so I can then apply Unrevoked 4 ever and then upgrade to 2.2 and maintain root. I downloaded the 1.47 update and created a pc36img.zip file (Used it on another evo) However when I try to flash it, it doesn't work and say something about wrong version. Wondering if anyone has the recovery.img and android.txt from 1.39.00.05.31.
Also if I can't get recovery back can I use Clockwork to apply the update that was downloaded? I would rather not restore to stock and restore all my apps and such.
Thanks
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Update the radio via recovery then install unrevokedforever. Or just install unrevokedforever lol
You know your on the very first release of software for the phone right? We are all on 2.2 froyo right now where have you been? I liked 2.1 myself but the fixes alone are worth the updates
detcup4evr said:
Hi,
I am Currently running a Evo with software version 1.39.00.05.31 I didn't take the 1.47 update. I rooted/iinstall custom recovery using Unrevoked3. I want to take the OTA 1.47 so I can then apply Unrevoked 4 ever and then upgrade to 2.2 and maintain root. I downloaded the 1.47 update and created a pc36img.zip file (Used it on another evo) However when I try to flash it, it doesn't work and say something about wrong version. Wondering if anyone has the recovery.img and android.txt from 1.39.00.05.31.
Also if I can't get recovery back can I use Clockwork to apply the update that was downloaded? I would rather not restore to stock and restore all my apps and such.
Thanks
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Well I'm not sure why you would want to do it that way but if your already rooted using unrevoked 3 (Not Full Root)
Then you can simply Download and apply Rooted 2.1 1.47.651.1 Rom to it or even the 2.2 3.26.651.6 (Most Recent)
But if I was you I'd use Titanium Backup to keep all your data so incase you can't use any recovery in the process at least you can restore it to any Rooted Rom or unrooted.
But to make this much simpler you need to use SimpleRoot that has Nand Unlock Option, also called 3 step Root.
This is in regards to your issue with Main Version Older Error when you tried using (PC36IMG) in bootloader.
If your gonna use SimpleRoot Make sure you have all the files included in your SD Card Otherwise PC36IMG by it self won't work.
Hope this Helps
Ace

[Q] I have S-OFF and Skyraider 2.5.2, help returning to stock for OTA

Can anyone help me. I made a nandroid backup of stock when I only had Unrevoked 3, then I did another backup of my Skyraider with all custom images and the works.
I would like to return to stock, but keep S-OFF so I can go through with the OTA. Can someone explain how I could do that why keeping S-OFF.
And how I can get Root access again after flashing the OTA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=766361
you just need to get stock recovery and then u can run the RUU to upgrade.
And then when I get to the lastest I can install clockwork again?
I have another off topic question about Skyraider, when he updates it with the official Froyo release, will I have to wipe everything to upgrade? or will it beable to just update over mine similiar to how HTC is rolling the update.
mikeymop said:
Can anyone help me. I made a nandroid backup of stock when I only had Unrevoked 3, then I did another backup of my Skyraider with all custom images and the works.
I would like to return to stock, but keep S-OFF so I can go through with the OTA. Can someone explain how I could do that why keeping S-OFF.
And how I can get Root access again after flashing the OTA
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I would suggest using the official ota leak rom. It is exactly the same, with root already done. plus it is deodexed so you can theme!
But if I restore with my nandroid backup that I made after I rooted with unrEVOked 3, will I lose my S-OFF?
Not positive, but I believe you will keep S-Off but just lose root.
The ONLY way to turn s-off to s-on is by unrevoked s-on new release. that's the beauty of it, no ROM without root with take your rooting abilities away like the OTA, if you didn't have s-off.

Whats the root method to use these days

OK guys (and gals) I'm a noob and totally confused myself trying to read 1000s of pages here in the forum. I'm currently running OTA 3.26.651.6 and understand there's a 3.29.****.5 OTA now available. I tried TheBiles idiot proof guide but the link in step 30 is broke. Most of the guides out there seem to be out of date. So I'm looking for some advice from the PROS on which to use and how to use. Remember im a noob so keep it simple. Also is there a glossory about all this like:
What is;(and what do they benefit)
ClokWorkMod
NAND
Rom Manager
ect.
smokinbanger said:
OK guys (and gals) I'm a noob and totally confused myself trying to read 1000s of pages here in the forum. I'm currently running OTA 3.26.651.6 and understand there's a 3.29.****.5 OTA now available. I tried TheBiles idiot proof guide but the link in step 30 is broke. Most of the guides out there seem to be out of date. So I'm looking for some advice from the PROS on which to use and how to use. Remember im a noob so keep it simple. Also is there a glossory about all this like:
What is;(and what do they benefit)
ClokWorkMod
NAND
Rom Manager
ect.
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unrevoked 3.21
You run it on your computer, plug in your phone, and follow the directions. You get full root and ClockworkMod recovery installed on your phone, as well as unrevoked forever. It's super easy.
Pros:
It's super easy
It gives you full root
It gives you root forever (unrevoked forever)
Takes care of everything (root, custom recovery, "S-OFF" AKA unrevoked forever)
Thoroughly tested
Cross-platform support
You can actually set any custom recovery image you want through the menu
Cons:
You need a computer
sturmen - thanks for the quick reply. Also should i update to OTA 3.29*** before or after (or never) i use this method?
Don't update through Sprint (ever). That's not how we roll around here. You're gonna want to root your phone as it is, then flash a custom ROM. You can tell which ones are based on the latest OTA on that wiki page; flashing one essentially "updates" you to that version. Personally, I recommend Fresh Evo 3.3.0.1 if you like Sense, or CyanogenMod v6.0.0 if you don't.
The biles guide was made a while ago, so it makes sense it is out of date. The best next one, that works, would be regaws method. There is even a mac guide using his method if you have a mac.
Will the current unrevoked3 work with build number 3.29.651.5?
OK I ran the unrEVOked3 and it said "done". Do i still need to run unrEVOked forever?
JtotheEremy said:
Will the current unrevoked3 work with build number 3.29.651.5?
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Yes, the newest version of unrevoked3 worked for me with 3.29.651.5.
Sent from my EVO running Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo and King's #10 CFS.
Thanks Bud
smokinbanger said:
OK I ran the unrEVOked3 and it said "done". Do i still need to run unrEVOked forever?
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I've been wondering this as well. I ran the newest unrevoked3 and it gave me full NAND unlock and S-off but I'm not sure if it is permanent and if I should run forever as well.... would appreciate some input on this!
Sent from my EVO running Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo and King's #10 CFS.
Drakhar said:
I've been wondering this as well. I ran the newest unrevoked3 and it gave me full NAND unlock and S-off but I'm not sure if it is permanent and if I should run forever as well.... would appreciate some input on this!
Sent from my EVO running Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo and King's #10 CFS.
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Straight from Unrevoked 3.21 RootWiki: here
Does this permanently unlock the NAND flash on my phone?
Yes. The default configuration of this tool disables the phone's security, which also disables the NAND locks placed on the storage by the bootloader. If you choose not to disable security, the /system partition will be read-only after the tool completes.
Using Old Backup's with this?
Here is my question on this. I just recieved my new phone today and I am planning on using this method to root my phone. Before I gave up my old phone I did a Nand backup which has all of my programs my "fresh rom" and ect. on it. Now on the old phone I used the Toast method and nand unlock to root my phone. Will I be able to just do a normal nand restore after I use the unrevoked3 to unlock my new phone? Or do I have to start all over? I checked on the sd card in the Nandroid backup is there. Thank you in advance
ICEReaction said:
Straight from Unrevoked 3.21 RootWiki: here
Does this permanently unlock the NAND flash on my phone?
Yes. The default configuration of this tool disables the phone's security, which also disables the NAND locks placed on the storage by the bootloader. If you choose not to disable security, the /system partition will be read-only after the tool completes.
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Thanks.
I read that the other day, but I kept reading posts stating to run unrevoked forever after unrevoked3 to make it permanent. Was a little confused... I guess unrevoked 3.21 includes unrevoked forever, lots of contradicting posts though.
one thing about that wiki that confuses me is when it talks about .ZIP ROMS, once i use unrevoked can I use Fresh's .ZIP?
Drakhar said:
Thanks.
I read that the other day, but I kept reading posts stating to run unrevoked forever after unrevoked3 to make it permanent. Was a little confused... I guess unrevoked 3.21 includes unrevoked forever, lots of contradicting posts though.
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Unrevoked 3 was pre-Unrevoked 3.21. That did not do Nand unlock and S-Off and required you to flash Unrevoked Forever to get Nand unlock and S-Off.
JtotheEremy said:
one thing about that wiki that confuses me is when it talks about .ZIP ROMS, once i use unrevoked can I use Fresh's .ZIP?
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.zip ROMs are flashed via recovery. unrevoked should give you CWM recovery, and therefore you should be able to flash ROMs (including Fresh). Make sure you back up, and also wipe data, cache, and dalvik-cache before flashing. If you need help with that, here's a step-by-step:
Have full root with NAND unlock, by unrevoked 3.21 (recommended) or otherwise
Download the ROM you want in .zip format (Go for Fresh!)
Put the .zip into the root of your microSD card
Install Quick Boot from the Market
Use Quick Boot to enter recovery
Go to nandroid, then make a backup
Go to wipe, and wipe data, wipe cache, and wipe dalvik-cache
Select "Flash zip from SD card"
Select the one you downloaded
Let it run
Reboot your phone
Congratulations! You are now part of the cool kids club!
Alternately, purchase ROM Manager Premium which allows you to download, backup, wipe and flash all in one step from within Android and without interacting with recovery. $4.99 and totally worth it.
sturmen said:
Don't update through Sprint (ever). That's not how we roll around here. You're gonna want to root your phone as it is, then flash a custom ROM. You can tell which ones are based on the latest OTA on that wiki page; flashing one essentially "updates" you to that version. Personally, I recommend Fresh Evo 3.3.0.1 if you like Sense, or CyanogenMod v6.0.0 if you don't.
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OK, but what about those of us that don't want a custom ROM? Is there any reliable way of getting from root 3.26 to root 3.29 without a data wipe?
As far as I can tell my best reliable option is:
1) Use Titanium Backup to backup all my apps/settings
2) Use unrevoked3 and the stock 3.29 ROM here to upgrade to 3.29 and regain root
3) Reinstall Titanium and restore my apps/settings
Is this correct, or is there an easier way?
Drakhar said:
I've been wondering this as well. I ran the newest unrevoked3 and it gave me full NAND unlock and S-off but I'm not sure if it is permanent and if I should run forever as well.... would appreciate some input on this!
Sent from my EVO running Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo and King's #10 CFS.
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S-off is unrevoked forever. So if it shows S-off in the boot loader then your good, u don't need to do anything else.
Shane112358 said:
OK, but what about those of us that don't want a custom ROM? Is there any reliable way of getting from root 3.26 to root 3.29 without a data wipe?
As far as I can tell my best reliable option is:
1) Use Titanium Backup to backup all my apps/settings
2) Use unrevoked3 and the stock 3.29 ROM here to upgrade to 3.29 and regain root
3) Reinstall Titanium and restore my apps/settings
Is this correct, or is there an easier way?
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On another Evo which I've helped root, I just downloaded the new 3.29 rooted stock ROM, wiped cache/davlik cache, flash new ROM, reboot, then go back and flash the new radio/PRI stuff and it works without having to wipe phone data.
rmig825 said:
Here is my question on this. I just recieved my new phone today and I am planning on using this method to root my phone. Before I gave up my old phone I did a Nand backup which has all of my programs my "fresh rom" and ect. on it. Now on the old phone I used the Toast method and nand unlock to root my phone. Will I be able to just do a normal nand restore after I use the unrevoked3 to unlock my new phone? Or do I have to start all over? I checked on the sd card in the Nandroid backup is there. Thank you in advance
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It is my understanding that as long as you have the same Recovery flashed (Clockwork or Amon RA) as you did on your old phone you should be able to copy the backups to your SD card (maintaining the same directory structure as they were before) and restore them without issue.

[Q] upgrading from froyo, already s-off but no root

My wife's desire HD which is still running the original stock froyo and stock. about 18m ago I remember making it S-off and super-CID (remove simlock) I unrooted it made a backup. and then removed just the root so my wife didn't inadvertantly mess it up.
It now got problems with battery drain I suspect the programs are conflicting with the old froyo rom. As such I want to upgrade it to ICS.
I can enter the clockworkMod recovery v2.5.1.3.
Can I just install zip through recovery, or do I need to unroot? if so how best to root.
Also the bootloaders for ICS do they get installed with the ROM or do I need to prep it with a pre-install? if so where do I get it from?
I search for any wiki guides but could not find the answers.
thanks
AbuYahya said:
My wife's desire HD which is still running the original stock froyo and stock. about 18m ago I remember making it S-off and super-CID (remove simlock) I unrooted it made a backup. and then removed just the root so my wife didn't inadvertantly mess it up.
It now got problems with battery drain I suspect the programs are conflicting with the old froyo rom. As such I want to upgrade it to ICS.
I can enter the clockworkMod recovery v2.5.1.3.
Can I just install zip through recovery, or do I need to unroot? if so how best to root.
Also the bootloaders for ICS do they get installed with the ROM or do I need to prep it with a pre-install? if so where do I get it from?
I search for any wiki guides but could not find the answers.
thanks
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If you are still S-OFF as u say u are, just download the Superuser App from the play store, update binary in the app options and then reboot. You should be rooted then. If you update to GB never flash a froyo RUU again...you will mess the bootloader and that seems to be trendy!! :good:

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