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First of all thanks specifically to the four people mentioned below, amon ra, and also to everyone on this forum and the forum team. I am really becoming edumacated, but still have a long way to go.
This is a question for netarchy, toast, whitslack, and/or l33t or anybody.
BACKGROUND:
Bought 2 evo’s. 1 for me and 1 for my wife. Computer is an Imac.
Rooted my evo using netarchy’s “the easiest 1.47.651.1 root+nand unlock you’ll ever see without a gui (updated)” thread 741294. It is easy.
Followed that up with whitslack’s “starting over method” thread 715915.
Now running netarchy’s odexed 2.2 with 4.0.3a kernel with pri 1.40. (what a pain to get it updated to 1.40 but I bagged it).
Everything is running great for me. All directions and instructions were perfect and worked as advertised. EASY PEASY. (except bagging the 1.40 pri of course).
CURRENT GOAL:
Now I want to root my wife’s phone. I am not running a more current kernel yet because I have been reading my butt off to find a method to not downgrade her pri to 1.34. I can’t wait to try a newer kernel, but that will have to wait.
I found many threads with references to modified pc36img.zip images without the rcdata included in them to root without downgrading the pri to 1.34. None of them really definitively answers whether or not the process works completely. Most of the threads end in dead ends because of a signed file problem loading modified PC36IMG.ZIP files.
QUESTIONS:
Since rooting was so easy before, I would like to use the same method’s on my wife’s phone. She is still at 1.47 (been holding off all updates OTA). So, since netarchy’s method utilize’s Toast’s PC36IMG.ZIP which downgrade’s the pri to 1.34, I have the following questions:
1) Is it possible to run unrevoked forever to turn s-off on my wife’s phone (still on 1.47 or 2.1), then complete step 2 below and use the unrevoked tool to turn s-on back on and still have my wife’s phone still rooted and nand unlocked via netarchy’s procedures? I think that this would allow me to complete step 2 below without the problems of a signed PC36IMG.ZIP mentioned in l33t’s thread wip update pri to 1.40. I would like to not leave s-off because I would be the one to brick her phone through my fat fingered mistakes. I would like to use this tool only to get her phone exactly to where mine is in the easiest fashion possible.
2) - Could I follow Netarchy’s procedure (after unrevoked forever) as before, but substitute l33t’s PC36IMG.ZIP (from l33t’s WIP update pri 1.40 thread - I think he removed the rcdata from it) for Toast’s PC36IMG.ZIP and achieve the exact same results as before except the pri will remain at 1.40? Thus I would achieve root and nand unlock with the 1.40 pri.
3) When following Whitslack method, does Whitslack’s PC36IMG.ZIP also downgrade the PRI to 1.34 or not? I am not sure of, or if there is any difference in his file versus Toast’s. I believe differences do exist, I just do not know exactly what they are.
4) If Whitslack’s PC36IMG.ZIP file does downgrade the pri to 1.34, is there an alternative file to use in his method to not downgrade the PRI to 1.34 , or is l33t’s PC36IMG.ZIP file OK to use with Whitslack’s method also? Should the s-on tool be utilized after Whitlack’s method using l33t’s PC36IMG.zip?
5) After whitslack’s method should I then reload the new amon ra recovery tool since I think his method loads amon ra 1.7.0.1
6) After reading, I am totally confused regarding backups. I love my nandroids now that I am rooted (a full backup tool should be standard from HTC and Sprint from the get go). I also now read that a new Amon-RA recovery exists. I believe I read that it now has the ability to select specific portions of a backup to restore. Please correct me if I am wrong and this may be my answer. So my question is where or how would I be able to backup my wife’s current contacts with custom ringtones and people’s pictures in favorites and her calendar before rooting -before all the data for these gets wiped before rooting (maybe not possible)? Does the google sync do all of this (after reading I don’t think it does)? This is the main concern for an easy root for her evo. We don’t care about sms, mms, emails nor homescreens (the homescreens are relatively easy to re setup – just some finger pushing). I know I can use a file manager (like ASTRO and Appbrain) for apps and apps data, and Titanium backup after rooting (but I don’t get how to restore on Titanium or what to restore – I played with it on my evo with no success except for apps). Yes I am dumb and I also believe her data would be wiped by this point anyways.
7) If I substitute the new Amon ra recovery 1.80 in part two of Netarchy’s root procedure, would that be sufficient to save her data and then selectively restore what is needed? Or would this be too late to save her contacts, custom ringtones, people pictures, favorites, and calendar?
8) Do I even need to do Whitlack’s method, because I would immediately be loading Netarchy’s 2.2 odexed rom. Could I just after using Netarchy’s root and nand unlock procedure (with the l33t’s PC36IMG.ZIP and the new Amon ra recovery 1.80, immediately proceed to flashing Netarchy’s 2.2 odexed 2.2 rom and be done because his 2.2 load procedure includes radio and wimax updates?
9) If it is possible to use unrevoked forever (s-off) and the new s-on tool, do I have the correct sequence of their uses in order? Or am I mixing apples and oranges methods and it just won’t work?
10) Is there a better procedure (and what is it) to do what I want? If I have to bite the bullet and just manually reload everything just let me know and I will go about it that way.
I know a few other people have kind of the same questions, so maybe this can be a way to help others with the same questions get the answers. Us noobs are always looking to take short cuts and think we understand when we really don't know nothing.
Thank you for all of your efforts prior to this. You people are geniuses.
Sorry for the length of this. I do not not totally understanding everything after reading for weeks and thanks for any response in advance. I really tried to understand before asking these questions. If I should have known better, then please blast away at me for not finding the answers already and I apologize before hand for wasting everyone's valuable time.
great answers
Thanks sooo much
You only asked FOUR people out of this entire forum a question. What exactly did you expect?
I'd help you but I'm not on the list...
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You have a wife?
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Hello,
I have been having trouble with my phone for weeks now. Back in August I used Unrevoked to root my Droid Incredible. Everything worked fine.
But now, I need to update my radio firmware before I can effectively use any of the custom ROMs. I am still using version 1.00xxx of the radio software, and if I try to install any of the custom ROMs my GPS stops working. So I have repeatedly tried to update the radio. I download the ZIP file and try to install (after backing up, of course). I get the error "no image or wrong image" and the update won't install.
So I have tried to reformat my SD card using FAT32. Same error. I do not rename the ZIP file or do anything dumb like that.
Next I tried to unroot my phone. It is my understanding that these updates are actually a binary diff, so the right base version must be installed in order to do the update. When I tried to unroot using the stock version of the ROM, I get the same error. So at least my phone still works, but I cannot do any updates.
I have searched all the forums and have read that many people seem to have this problem. But there are no solutions that I have not tried.
Any suggestions? I would *really* appreciate any pointers.
AE
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Any suggestions?
To begin with, are you s-off?
No. I was just thinking about doing that. I read the unrevoked forever site, and it seemed to indicate that there might be some kind of locking going on which is why the updates won't install. Is that the right thing to do?
I will follow those instructions and post again if there are difficulties.
Thanks for the response.
AE
Just curious but can't you just run the RUU?
android_enthusiast said:
No. I was just thinking about doing that. I read the unrevoked forever site, and it seemed to indicate that there might be some kind of locking going on which is why the updates won't install. Is that the right thing to do?
I will follow those instructions and post again if there are difficulties.
Thanks for the response.
AE
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Therein lies your problem. You must be s-off in order to do what you're trying to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774155
Just wanted to get this out there. I have been trying to root all night with no luck. Hoping others with same issue will come for an offer help. Free evo accessory for anyone that can get this solved for me.
You need to provide a few more details what you've done to try and achieve root. What method did you try? What are seeing on the screen at the various steps.
I used the long method listed Here. If you're using the .exe file in the other thread, its not as reliable.
I am having the sane issue. I have tried regaw's method, the manual method listed in the hboot S-off thread, and the automated method in the other hboot thread. Everything works except flashing pc36img.zip....it throws the error he mentioned when updating radio v2, plus it throws fail-ic when trying to update bootloader (it does not say "bootloader skipped" as indicated it should in the guide). From this point forward, it will not boot past white HTC splash w/o running ruu. You can even do the rest of the guide and get a custom recovery flashed (i have done both amon-ra, and clockwork). After running ruu, S-off sticks (meaning unrevoked worked, I suppose), but you obviously don't have root. If you try to flash a custom Rom, even just a rooted version of the ruu, it throws a symlink error (something like E:fail can't symlink bin/lsmod....can't remember exact syntax, I posted it in another thread though, I'll see if u can find it). I have tried doing this from custom recovery and from toast's pc-based recovery. Is there a way for me to pull a log of what is happening when the pc36img has its errors? That may be the only way for me to give you more info than I have.
funnyrocket said:
Just wanted to get this out there. I have been trying to root all night with no luck. Hoping others with same issue will come for an offer help. Free evo accessory for anyone that can get this solved for me.
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Look at this guys thread and also ask them to move your thread to the right forum so you can get the proper views and help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831915
i followed the manual method, it failed with the radio pu, i completed the method, my phone would not boot it was stuck at the "htc evo" screen. So after some research I found the correct file to make my phone boot, The manual steps worked and i rotted my phone but i am unable to put a custom rom on
dl this file rename it pc36img and push it to you phone and reboot in the hboot and let it install it should pass you will have root access and clockworks custom recovery but until someone fixes the roms or gives a answer they wont work they will fail but you will have a phone and root admin.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791019
flipper12 said:
You need to provide a few more details what you've done to try and achieve root. What method did you try? What are seeing on the screen at the various steps.
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I used Method 3 from this zikronix's [TOOL][GUIDE] HBoot 2.02 S-OFF thread. Everything works great until I have to flash PC36IMG. It starts but gives the Radio-V2 Fail-PU and Bootloader-Fail-IC. The screen shows updated failed. Upon restart I'm at the red triangle boot screen. Can't do anything else from there.
kc_sheets said:
i followed the manual method, it failed with the radio pu, i completed the method, my phone would not boot it was stuck at the "htc evo" screen. So after some research I found the correct file to make my phone boot, The manual steps worked and i rotted my phone but i am unable to put a custom rom on
dl this file rename it pc36img and push it to you phone and reboot in the hboot and let it install it should pass you will have root access and clockworks custom recovery but until someone fixes the roms or gives a answer they wont work they will fail but you will have a phone and root admin.
I don't see what this will do for me since I don't have S-Off status yet. I can't get that far. Plus, this isn't a comeplete root. I have another Evo here that has the exact same specs, right down to Hardware 003 and I just did the Method 3 root and it went through with flying colors. So...
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I think it is the bad blocks issue popping up again. I read about it in toast's root thread, I believe. If I am right, toast figured out a fix before. We may have to find a way to use his fix again. It was for a different bootloader, though. Might not work straight out of the box. I'm no dev, but this seems to me to be what is happening.
tejasrichard, i didnt know you got an Evo.
Come see us in #HTC-EVO on irc.freenode.net
Alot of devs hang out in irc so you guys might be able to get help there.
Use clockwork.
For some reason, amon ra doesn't work right away. You'll get fail-pu with it.
OtisFeelgood said:
tejasrichard, i didnt know you got an Evo.
Come see us in #HTC-EVO on irc.freenode.net
Alot of devs hang out in irc so you guys might be able to get help there.
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Sup Otis! Yeah, I finally got my upgrade, lol! I'm a little late to the party, but better late than never, right? I'll stop by tomorrow and say hi (promised the missus some quality time tonight). I've got a few more things I want to try, but I'm betting whatever toast did b4 to get around the bad blocks will work again. Need to pm him and see what he thinks.
I am new to rooting a phone and have read count less threads on this site. First I have to say that this is one of the best forums I have come across. My first question I have decided to use the Universal Auto Root method found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
First I want to stay with the Stock Evo Rom for now, not the Sprint Lovers Rom. Is there a way to not flash that rom using UAR or can I just Flash the Stock rom back after I have rooted the phone. If I have to flash the stock rom back then can someone point me in the right direction for a tutorial with the stock rom. I have modded other things besides phones and have no problem reading to find the answers. Most people that have problems just say "Oh I will root my phone today" and do not do the research before hand and in up with a paper weight. I have been read for about a week now and am just now getting to where I understand parts of the process.
Smurph82 said:
I am new to rooting a phone and have read count less threads on this site. First I have to say that this is one of the best forums I have come across. My first question I have decided to use the Universal Auto Root method found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
First I want to stay with the Stock Evo Rom for now, not the Sprint Lovers Rom. Is there a way to not flash that rom using UAR or can I just Flash the Stock rom back after I have rooted the phone. If I have to flash the stock rom back then can someone point me in the right direction for a tutorial with the stock rom. I have modded other things besides phones and have no problem reading to find the answers. Most people that have problems just say "Oh I will root my phone today" and do not do the research before hand and in up with a paper weight. I have been read for about a week now and am just now getting to where I understand parts of the process.
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I'm not familiar with that root method, so I'm not sure if there's a way to bypass the flashing of SpringtLovers, although I'd assume there is a way. Any time I've ever used Unrevoked to root, it never touched the ROM. After using Unrevoked, all the apps I previously had are still there and its on the same ROM. The only differences are that the bootloader will be S-off, you'll have clockwork recovery flashed, and you'll have the Super User app. With all that said, Sprint Lovers is about the exact same thing as stock, as far as I can tell. I flashed it on my girl's phone, because she liked her stock rom. The only differences are I noticed are very subtle, such as the battery indicator having the % value in it, the wireless tether app being added, and I believe it's deodexed. (and probably a few other things, maybe some optimizations and stuff) But as far as looks, it's identical to a stock ROM.
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I'm not familiar with that root method, so I'm not sure if there's a way to bypass the flashing of Spring Lovers, although I'd assume there is a way. Any time I've ever used Unrevoked to root, it never touched the ROM. After using Unrevoked, all the apps I previously had are still there and its on the same ROM. The only differences are that the bootloader will be S-off, you'll have clockwork recovery flashed, and you'll have the Super User app. With all that said, Sprint Lovers is about the exact same thing as stock, as far as I can tell. I flashed it on my girl's phone, because she liked her stock rom. The only differences are I noticed are very subtle, such as the battery indicator having the % value in it, the wireless tether app being added, and I believe it's deodexed. (and probably a few other things, maybe some optimizations and stuff) But as far as looks, it's identical to a stock ROM.
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You're correct, the only thing unrevoked does is root your phone and roots your current rom, in this case, stock with root access. So OP, I think you may want to use unrevoked for this case.
I have read that Amon Ra is better than clockwork recovery that was the main reason I was thinking of the UAR. Weird thing is that my system just finished a virus scan and it said that the UAR had something called Lotoor in it. Now I don't that I will download it. Is there a way to use unrevoked and then put Amon Ra on it. Better yet I have read that the Toast method is good but I have not found it in a tutorial. Is there one available. If I use unrevoked then how do you get clockwork removed and install Amon Ra.
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I have read that Amon Ra is better than clockwork recovery that was the main reason I was thinking of the UAR. Weird thing is that my system just finished a virus scan and it said that the UAR had something called Lotoor in it. Now I don't that I will download it. Is there a way to use unrevoked and then put Amon Ra on it. Better yet I have read that the Toast method is good but I have not found it in a tutorial. Is there one available. If I use unrevoked then how do you get clockwork removed and install Amon Ra.
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Flash the file attached in the bootloader. Apply update, reboot, and then reboot back into recovery and you'll be on amon_ra 2.3. The amon_ra recovery is inside it, no needc to rename or extract the file.
teh roxxorz said:
Flash the file attached in the bootloader. Apply update, reboot, and then reboot back into recovery and you'll be on amon_ra 2.3. The amon_ra recovery is inside it, no needc to rename or extract the file.
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Yup, like teh roxx said, you can use Unrevoked, then change to Amon Ra. And yes, Amon Ra is better (in my opinion). You can change recoveries any time you want, you could try them both out and see which works better for you if you wanted to. If you do run Unrevoked, just be sure that you remove htc sync, that you install the hboot drivers, and that you have no programs on your pc running that can talk to your phone (htc sync, pda net, easytether, doubletwist etc etc) and you also want to disable your anti virus when you run it, as that can also interfere.
Ok just so I get this straight first. The easiest way to do this would be to first use Unrevoked v3.32 to get root. Then go into recovery and with that image in the root of the sd card and update the phone with it. Then reboot and I would have Amon Ra installed after that. Would the affect unrevoked from working by changing from clockwork to Amon Ra. After I ran unrevoked would I need to run the unrevoked forever as well.
Smurph82 said:
Ok just so I get this straight first. The easiest way to do this would be to first use Unrevoked v3.32 to get root. Then go into recovery and with that image in the root of the sd card and update the phone with it. Then reboot and I would have Amon Ra installed after that. Would the affect unrevoked from working by changing from clockwork to Amon Ra. After I ran unrevoked would I need to run the unrevoked forever as well.
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After using unrevoked, you boot into the bootloader, the white screen with the androids skating boarding to flash the file, not recovery, and then reboot. And no, changing recoveries after using unrevoked won't affect it, and yes, you would flash the forever zip in recovery after doing the previous steps.
Last question I promise because it is getting late here and I am not going to do this right now maybe tomorrow, well later today. Does running Unrevoked give you a full root. I have read that a full root is where the nand is unlocked and that gives you the ability to run nandroid to back up your phone. Also To remove root if I ever needed to go stock again do I uninstall unrevoked or to I install the lastest RUU from Sprint, and if so where to find them.
Smurph82 said:
Last question I promise because it is getting late here and I am not going to do this right now maybe tomorrow, well later today. Does running Unrevoked give you a full root. I have read that a full root is where the nand is unlocked and that gives you the ability to run nandroid to back up your phone. Also To remove root if I ever needed to go stock again do I uninstall unrevoked or to I install the lastest RUU from Sprint, and if so where to find them.
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Unrevoked give you root, but flashing the unrevoked forever gives you the nand unlock. And to unroot, you flash the S-ON tool, then you flash the lastest RUU for you hboot, in this case, 3.70.
Smurph82 said:
Last question I promise because it is getting late here and I am not going to do this right now maybe tomorrow, well later today. Does running Unrevoked give you a full root. I have read that a full root is where the nand is unlocked and that gives you the ability to run nandroid to back up your phone. Also To remove root if I ever needed to go stock again do I uninstall unrevoked or to I install the lastest RUU from Sprint, and if so where to find them.
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Unrevoked does give you full root, nand unlocked. Full root capabilities. Nandroid backups and restore galore. To unroot, you flash the unrevoked s on tool with recovery. Then run RUU. That's it. Nice and simple.
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Smurph82 said:
Last question I promise because it is getting late here and I am not going to do this right now maybe tomorrow, well later today. Does running Unrevoked give you a full root. I have read that a full root is where the nand is unlocked and that gives you the ability to run nandroid to back up your phone. Also To remove root if I ever needed to go stock again do I uninstall unrevoked or to I install the lastest RUU from Sprint, and if so where to find them.
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http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/194918-rooting-dummies.html
this thread is very helpful for the unrevoked method, and yes unrevoked gives you full root including nand
k2buckley how did you get your details and specs in your post. I looked for somewhere to add them but I could not find them anywhere.
teh roxxorz said:
Unrevoked give you root, but flashing the unrevoked forever gives you the nand unlock. And to unroot, you flash the S-ON tool, then you flash the lastest RUU for you hboot, in this case, 3.70.
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Actually, Unrevoked unlocks NAND, too. Honestly, I don't know what the difference it between Unrevoked and Unrevoked Forever, but the regular Unrevoked turns "s" off, too. I've rooted two Evo's within the past month with the regular Unrevoked, and "s" was off and I flashed custom roms and all on both of the phones.
From the unrevoked website:
"unrevoked3 will permanently unlock NAND write protection by default on the following phones"
"unrevoked forever is a tool to set your Android phone's security level to S-OFF."
I've wondered what the difference is between one and the other for a good while now.
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k2buckley how did you get your details and specs in your post. I looked for somewhere to add them but I could not find them anywhere.
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Go into the "user CP" and edit your signature.
rugedraw said:
Actually, Unrevoked unlocks NAND, too. Honestly, I don't know what the difference it between Unrevoked and Unrevoked Forever, but the regular Unrevoked turns "s" off, too. I've rooted two Evo's within the past month with the regular Unrevoked, and "s" was off and I flashed custom roms and all on both of the phones.
From the unrevoked website:
"unrevoked3 will permanently unlock NAND write protection by default on the following phones"
"unrevoked forever is a tool to set your Android phone's security level to S-OFF."
I've wondered what the difference is between one and the other for a good while now.
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Well yes, it does give you nand unlock, but if you don't flash the forever zip, you won't be able to make the system changes, like changing the splash screen.
From the site: "unrevoked forever is a tool to set your Android phone's security level to S-OFF. The security level is a flag stored on the radio; when the flag is S-OFF, the bootloader (HBOOT) will no longer check the signatures of firmware images before flashing them. This allows custom firmware images to be uploaded, including unsigned boot, recovery, splash1, and hboot images (as well as official images that have been modified). When the system is S-OFF, the NAND flash memory protection is also reduced; this allows all partitions (including /system) to be written to while the operating system is booted."
teh roxxorz said:
Well yes, it does give you nand unlock, but if you don't flash the forever zip, you won't be able to make the system changes, like changing the splash screen.
From the site: "unrevoked forever is a tool to set your Android phone's security level to S-OFF. The security level is a flag stored on the radio; when the flag is S-OFF, the bootloader (HBOOT) will no longer check the signatures of firmware images before flashing them. This allows custom firmware images to be uploaded, including unsigned boot, recovery, splash1, and hboot images (as well as official images that have been modified). When the system is S-OFF, the NAND flash memory protection is also reduced; this allows all partitions (including /system) to be written to while the operating system is booted."
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Hmmm....so on the phones I used Unrevoked3 on, I will not be able to push/flash a splash screen onto it? I still don't quite understand the difference, but thanks for your input. I obviously still have A LOT to learn. lol
I keep seeing where people are using something called the Toast method to root their phone. Is that where you do everything from the command line. I bet a lot of people don't even remember the command line haha. Is there really any difference between the two (Unrevoked and Toast). What about security. Does rooting with Unrevoked have any back doors or anything like that. I don't mean to offend anyone just asking the question, I think that all the work people put into things like this are great. I work in high security areas and this is always on my mind. If I install something like Lookout Mobile Security could that mess with the phone being rooted. You all are great.
rugedraw said:
Hmmm....so on the phones I used Unrevoked3 on, I will not be able to push/flash a splash screen onto it? I still don't quite understand the difference, but thanks for your input. I obviously still have A LOT to learn. lol
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Yea, it'll tell you no permissions, ect. And if you used unrevoked, to flash a splash is slightly different than the standard method, and I can tell you if you want to know. The unrevoked, goes to a low level to unlock those permissions.
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I keep seeing where people are using something called the Toast method to root their phone. Is that where you do everything from the command line. I bet a lot of people don't even remember the command line haha. Is there really any difference between the two (Unrevoked and Toast). What about security. Does rooting with Unrevoked have any back doors or anything like that. I don't mean to offend anyone just asking the question, I think that all the work people put into things like this are great. I work in high security areas and this is always on my mind. If I install something like Lookout Mobile Security could that mess with the phone being rooted. You all are great.
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Well i started using the toast method, but it didn't work for me, since when I got my Evo 2.2 JUST came out, and people were scrambling blah blah, I digress. And what do you mean by backdoor? If you root using unrevoked you get all the same permissions/benefits of rooting as those with the toast method. And using a program like lookout security wouldn't affect your phone at all.
Smurph82 said:
I keep seeing where people are using something called the Toast method to root their phone. Is that where you do everything from the command line. I bet a lot of people don't even remember the command line haha. Is there really any difference between the two (Unrevoked and Toast). What about security. Does rooting with Unrevoked have any back doors or anything like that. I don't mean to offend anyone just asking the question, I think that all the work people put into things like this are great. I work in high security areas and this is always on my mind. If I install something like Lookout Mobile Security could that mess with the phone being rooted. You all are great.
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I used Toast's Part 1 & 2 method to root back in June mainly because it was the only thing available. It was not a noob friendly process, IMO, but it worked and my phone is still rooted to this day using his method. Also, it forced me to learn a few things that I wouldn't have had I had Unrevoked at my disposal.
However, I believe Toast's methods are outdated now as the current Evo software and hboots require different exploits to obtain root.
teh roxxorz said:
Yea, it'll tell you no permissions, ect. And if you used unrevoked, to flash a splash is slightly different than the standard method, and I can tell you if you want to know. The unrevoked, goes to a low level to unlock those permissions.
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Thanks, man.....I always see you on here helping people out and you are an asset to the XDA community. However, I Unrevoked the phones for some people that wanted wireless tether and screen shots......they could care less for the splash screens. Plus, I'm sure I can Google it and figure it out if it comes down to it. Mainly, I was asking for the knowledge as to "why" more than "how", and I think I follow now.
Your help is much appreciated, though.
I was able to run an older version of Unrevoked to establish SU access, but Unrevoked Forever is incompatible with my radio version. So, I have SU access, but I cannot remove or convert any applications using Titanium Backup. TB runs, but it reboots the phone if I try to remove system apps. HBOOT shows S-ON since Unrevoked Forever was not able to complete due to the radio version. So, am I stuck with S-ON? Is Unrevoked Forever going to continue developing releases to cover 2.15.10.07.07?
If I understand correctly, I cannot flash an older radio version with S-ON. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks!
HTC Incredible
2.3.4
Baseband: 2.15.10.07.07
you are correct,s-on will only let you go forward with "approved by htc" files. that means no backpeddling firmware to a rootable version,no flashing only a radio or recovery. im surprised that unrevoked even worked to get you su access,i was under the impression that all exploits had been patched in 2.3.4 source code. what happens if you try and install clockwork?
if you truly have su access,it seems it may be possible to use adb to rewrite the misc image,and thus be able to flash backwards in firmware.
however,from the sounds of the behavior youre describing for tibu,i dont believe you have su access. it prolly only put the app in the drawer,and was unable to place the matching binary.
we have been telling folks for months that they should become s-offed before the GB update,as it would be unrootable.
i bought an xtc clip awhile back that is supposed to support the incredible. i dont know that it will actually work,ill know for sure when it gets here. im told it only works with sim card phones,wich the inc is not,but its clearly listed in the supported devices.
your only real hope at this point is that someone finde a new exploit that will allow temp root and re-writing of the misc image so that you can flash older rootable firmware,or that alpharev/unrevoked can add the incredible to its supported devices list,as they use some sort of hboot trickery to get a hard patched permanent s-off hboot onto the phone first. from there you load a recovery thru hboot,then flash su in recovery.
sorry this isnt the news youre hoping for.
Thank you for the help.
It is odd. I definitely have su access through terminal, and I am running opengarden and barnacle wi-fi tether. I ran an older version of Unrevoked, and it did not complete the final step of s-off. Clockworkmod installed successfully, and I created a recovery image. Can we expect some way to root after the GB update? Is this just an HTC thing? I'm sorry for all of the questions, but I was soooo close!
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Thank you for the help.
It is odd. I definitely have su access through terminal, and I am running opengarden and barnacle wi-fi tether. I ran an older version of Unrevoked, and it did not complete the final step of s-off. Clockworkmod installed successfully, and I created a recovery image. Can we expect some way to root after the GB update? Is this just an HTC thing? I'm sorry for all of the questions, but I was soooo close!
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If you already have clockwork mod, flash the unrevoked forever zip from here
When I flash the zip file, I get E:/ unsupported radio version. E: update failed.
Do you have adb set up and running? Are you fairly comfortable copy/pasting commands?
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still with us? waiting for an answer to the above so we can procede
also is it possible you can post or PM me a link to the version of unrevoked you used?
if you dont have a link,just email me the whole file( [email protected] ) im extremely interested in trying to duplicate your condition and figuring out a reliable way for folks to downgrade and root.
Scotty,
I'm sorry for the delayed response.
I do not have ADB setup, but I have no problem following directions to get S-off and reclaim some memory!
I have emailed you the Unrevoked file to your email address. This should run perfectly on 2.3.4 with the exception of the last step of flashing unrevoked.zip for S-off. You will see the "unsupported radio version" errors on the phone's screen. Please let me know if there is anything else that I can do to help. Thank you for your help with this.
I got your email. I will put some stuff together for you,and try it out and see if it all works the way I hope it will. If so ill upload a mini-adb with some exploits files and post a guide. Basically,were just going to rewrite the misc image so you can downgrade back to froyo and run unrevoked forever. After you reroot and get s-off back,you can restore a backup of what you have now.
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Subscribing to thread. Looks interesting, Im hopeful it works out. Good luck!
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Ok after reading this thread again. My guide for the merge on froyo or the stuff I have for gingerbread for the merge will not work on a non emmc device. 2nd who buys a xtc clip and doesn't look what they buy? The way it works is with the sim card slot. Inc doesn't have one so it isn't going to work. It also isn't listed as supported as it would be pointless to say it does.
If I am not mistake with s-on you can't flash the recovery partition. So how did you get clockworkmod? If you have clockworkmod then you can flash non htc files. Well actually I am not sure how that would work as you have s-on but clockworkmod. Since I have never been in that boat I am unsure.
So are we talking about the inc or inc 2? If inc I am trying to think back to the desire and what was possible on s-on. If I remember right you can dump the misc then flash a lower version ruu. I just can't remember if it doesn't even flash or if it does and doesn't downgrade the radio. By the way I got it in a pm/here scotty was planning to base helping you off my merge guide. By the sounds of it anyway.
Where the commands are not the same. As the partitions would be different. The misc-image is also not the same so if he had you flash the merge misc it will more than likely bork stuff. I am more than willing to help though. How ever I do not check the forums so you are better off pming me. I will say that nothing will probably work until unrevoked supports the new radio.
Edit: If the incredible works with a goldcard. Dump the misc partition and edit it for the firmware version you want to downgrade to. Then run a lower version ruu. When that is done run unrevoked. Of course I don't have a inc so I am not sure if that will work either. I also jumped a bit to conclusions so sorry for that. I also do not get your one post about the xtc clip here, yet in that other post say the clip doesn't support the inc.
thanks for your input,but rest assured we are in no way shape or form refering to anything to do with drellisdees's guide,your copy of it,or any other files,guides,etc. you have linked or posted on this site or yours.
he allready has root access and a recovery partition.
again,thanks for your input,but please stop confusing the issue with your references to merge guides.
for others watching this,a crude guide is now up on android forums:
http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/427344-2-3-4-root-downgrade-s-off.html
root 2.3.4 with unrevoked 3.22 has now been done successfully twice,and 1 has successfully roled back to 2.2.
more testers welcome
Confirmed. Worked for me. Was s on 2.3.4.
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My Incredible also is S-on with Verizon 2.3.4 OTA and never rooted. I'll give that "crude guide" a try tonight and report back how it went.
I'm just tired of all the low memory notifications and the constant force closes. Hopefully, I can have a custom mod installed tonight if things go well.
SUCCESS!!
Instructions from the website flawlessly for me.
I first rooted the phone. Then I tested it with some root only apps. They all worked. So ideally you can stop here if all you want is root but next OTA will take away root and then you'll be stuck again.
I completed all the steps and they worked. I was able to downgrade to 2.2 and then run unrevoke3 to root and also turn S-off. It did wipe the data clean. No files from my SDcard were deleted.
This is the time i've rooted my phone and the whole process took me an hour because I was being extra careful not to miss any steps. It all went smoothly.
glad it worked out for you. we finally worked out enuff bugs i put it up here as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
efizzle seems to have dropped off the face of the earth everyone who reads this should make sure to click the "thanks" button in his first post. we wouldnt have it if hadnt figured out the 3.22 secret.(we would still have zergRush,but not root with access and the ability to make nandroids and backups with tibu so easily).
once again,thanks efizzle
Worked like a champ. I did a recovery back to 2.3.4 and it worked as expected. Also brought back all my force close issues. So I used ROM Manager and installed Cyanogen7 and am loving it.
clicking the thanks button a few times for this help
Ok, I'm on Linux, Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04.3 to be exact, and I have adb installed. Where can I find the Linux version of unrevoked 3.22. I have found several places on the interwebz but I'm not sure if I trust those sources.
Help Please
Just like the op I have a Dinc that is on Gingerbread 2.3.4 and baseband 2.15.10.07.07 and desperate to have root. S-OFF would be nice, but root would be just fine for now.
More than happy to be the Guinea-pig on a Linux system.
sorry,i have no idea. i did a quick search and couldnt even find the windows version of 3.22 that i uploaded... i wanted to link it at its source,since it was emailed to me,but im not sure where he downloaded it from. you might follow the link in the first post credits to the original xda thread and ask on that thread,or send efizzle a private message and see if he can help you. in a worse case scenario,as long as you have 3.32 for linux,you could get temp root and downgrade with the "zergRush" method described in past #2. it doesnt require 3.22,but you wont be able to make a backup,or run titanium unless you can push SU,the binary,and busybox to their respective locations after acquiring a temp root.