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video playback.... choppy

I tried putting a small video clip on my memory card. When I open it it plays like it's in slow motion, and it's really choppy. The audio for the clip plays in normal speed.
so a few questions...
Is there a best format of video files for my excalibur?
Is there mabey a player better than windows media player?
I hacked my psp a few years back. I was able to download full movies and watch them on it. I may be asking too much... but I'm wondering if it's possible to do this with my phone.
when I'm at work with my phone in my hand the ol' boss doesn't mind. Of course when I'm hanging on to a game system.... the **** hit's the fan!

Here you are a free bit of software that can recode videos http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html download link @ bottom there is lot's of speal...
I use A-One FLV to AVI but it's not free, there is alot of software that can do it.
I recomended SUPER as i know lots of peeps use it, so set the resolution 320x240 keep bitrate down on video larger it is larger output file, audio can be set to mono and again about 64kbit/s and still be fine, .mp4 is a good quality for Mobile video or for even more compression .3gp
Re: Player TCPMP "to which is free" or CorePlayer "the pay version"

I've tried downloading TCPMP. When I try installing it I get a message that the install package isn't designed for my device.
this is where I'm downloading it from.
http://tcpmp.en.softonic.com/pocketpc/download#pathbar
Is there a different version that I need to use?

oilspot said:
I've tried downloading TCPMP. When I try installing it I get a message that the install package isn't designed for my device.
this is where I'm downloading it from.
http://tcpmp.en.softonic.com/pocketpc/download#pathbar
Is there a different version that I need to use?
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Do a search on this forum know that one with all codecs was posted.

stylez said:
Do a search on this forum know that one with all codecs was posted.
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that did it... and here's where I found my answer.
thanks again!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468853&highlight=tcpmp+download
tried playing a small avi. player says I need to mess with the settings. I'll see If I can get it figured out.

oilspot said:
that did it... and here's where I found my answer.
thanks again!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468853&highlight=tcpmp+download
tried playing a small avi. player says I need to mess with the settings. I'll see If I can get it figured out.
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All you have to do is enable all file formats on your options

Related question... How do I watch the phone-recorded videos on my PC after I pull them over via ActiveSync? I tried converting them with Handbreak but they are not recognized as a compatible format.

dewey1973 said:
Related question... How do I watch the phone-recorded videos on my PC after I pull them over via ActiveSync? I tried converting them with Handbreak but they are not recognized as a compatible format.
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Try VLC Media Player you will want codecs CCCP is XP & Vista compatable "if you have any other codec packs installed then do not install"

well i actually wanted to start a mobile movie thread
like..i will be encodeing movies for mobiles..which will play without a hitch...and patches...
and uploading them on rapidshare or megaupload..
sooo what say??

what happens if you run out of battery in the middle of a movie, can you fastforward it afterwards and in an "easy" way? If it's possible, it depends on the video format, video player or both?

Best Video Player for TP2?

I am trying to find a good player for .avi, .mpeg4, etc. for my TP2. I used to use TCPMP but when I installed it on my TP2 it errors out at launch. Any ideas? Is there a newer version of TCPMP that is compatible?
Thanks!

The WMP supports avi and mp4. And it works!

Hmm, it does not work for me. That is strange.

dcam1075 said:
I used to use TCPMP but when I installed it on my TP2 it errors out at launch. Any ideas? Is there a newer version of TCPMP that is compatible?
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Try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3275845&postcount=172
Once installed you need to go into Options/Settings... and choose the DirectDraw page, then tick the box that says "Use blitting instead of overlay".

Try Core Player. It is amazing... it is also running via network (wifi)

the best video player is coreplayer

Aqrab said:
the best video player is coreplayer
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The impression I get from reading these fora is that CorePlayer may be the best but that it's still not actually particularly good, as it is unable to benefit from any of the hardware acceleration provided by the Qualcomm chipset - this being HTC's fault for providing dodgy or non-existent drivers. It seems like this is a major weakness of the TP2.

Actually, from what I remember, it's not HTC's fault per se, so it's not really fair to blame HTC. The thing is that Qualcomm sold their chipsets but different price ranges for the same chip. The difference being that if one paid more then they'd get the drivers necessary to take advantage of other features. Basically one has to pay for the drivers. So HTC's player includes hardware acceleration, but just because it seems they have gotten the drivers for that feature doesn't mean that they can pass the drivers on to software makers (just like you can't legally pass your copy of a game on to a friend). But neither can we say it's Qualcomm's fault as it was their pricing plan. I think somewhere it was stated that it was a misunderstanding at some point. But yeah, that's the gist, and why if Coreplayer is to work they have to reverse engineer the drivers or deal with Qualcomm directly.

What's wrong with the built-in free WMP? It plays 640x480 MP4 (H.264) videos smoothly.

solsearch said:
Actually, from what I remember, it's not HTC's fault per se, so it's not really fair to blame HTC. The thing is that Qualcomm sold their chipsets but different price ranges for the same chip. The difference being that if one paid more then they'd get the drivers necessary to take advantage of other features. Basically one has to pay for the drivers. So HTC's player includes hardware acceleration, but just because it seems they have gotten the drivers for that feature doesn't mean that they can pass the drivers on to software makers (just like you can't legally pass your copy of a game on to a friend). But neither can we say it's Qualcomm's fault as it was their pricing plan. I think somewhere it was stated that it was a misunderstanding at some point. But yeah, that's the gist, and why if Coreplayer is to work they have to reverse engineer the drivers or deal with Qualcomm directly.
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Let me get this straight... Your saying it's not HTC's fault because you think they didn't know they were buying chipsets without drivers from Qualcomm. To me it sounds like they cheaped out and screwed consumers.
I highly doubt its a misunderstanding and I'm not afraid to place blame because I'm more than certain HTC knew what they were doing otherwise they wouldn't keep ordering more of the same chipset to produce new phones.
If this were really the case I would assume we would see slightly different hardware or drivers included with CDMA versions since they would have had time to figure this out since everyone else already has.

Gave up Core Player for the Touch phones. It doesn't play movies at all well. Just use the built-in WMP or the HTC album player.
Download the Encoder GUI and just re-encode your movies. Let it run during your bedtime. Easy!

Lord_BlackAdder said:
What's wrong with the built-in free WMP? It plays 640x480 MP4 (H.264) videos smoothly.
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For starters, it doesn't play xvid.

Shasarak said:
For starters, it doesn't play xvid.
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Re-encode it using the Encoder GUI. Why fight it?
Don't think there any mobile phones that can play xvid videos at 800x480 smoothly. Even the latest i8000 only supports video playback at up to 720x480.
Even if you get an iPhone, you will still need to convert it to in order for you to watch it.
My solution, either re-encode it, or play a lower resolution xvid (i think i tried it once at 622x288, can't remember and it played ok in core player).

I'd go with Coreplayer too as it has the widest range of codecs available BUT if the bitrate of your clip is too high your phone won't like it whatever player you use (but you probably knew that anyway...)

Hi Everyone I have found that GOM Encoder does an outstanding job of converting any movie to a playable format for the Rhodium

reddog said:
Hi Everyone I have found that GOM Encoder does an outstanding job of converting any movie to a playable format for the Rhodium
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Hey, good find! Will give it a try for sure! Cheers!

Core player has some nice features, but benchmarking h264 playback it was somewhat lacking compaired to windows media player mobile....
95% of the time u will want to/have to re-encode to make it smaller or lower the bitrate to something it can play, so codec support shoudnt be a choosing factor...
I get WMPM playing smooth with H264(1300~ bitrate) and ACC audio(stereo at 128 varieable bitrate) at 800x416. which is dame nice quality on the small screen
I'll start a thread on encoding with MeGUI to get you all started

But I can't get full screen on WMP
Lord_BlackAdder said:
What's wrong with the built-in free WMP? It plays 640x480 MP4 (H.264) videos smoothly.
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Do you know what I'm doing wrong? After not being able to use WMP on my Universal (WM5) because it could not do full screen - I load a movie into WMP on my shiny new Touch Pro 2 and 'full screen' isn't - it has a dirty great big border round it! The video is smaller then the screen but WMP is set to stretch to screen. What gives??
John

Shasarak said:
Try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3275845&postcount=172
Once installed you need to go into Options/Settings... and choose the DirectDraw page, then tick the box that says "Use blitting instead of overlay".
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wow that done the trick for me, awesome playback imo

I tried the Touch HD encoder and used the advised settings in the thread.
Playback is smooth in HTC Album, but the quality seemed fuzzier than my normal method.
So back I go to:
Coreplayer
Videos encoded using PocketDivXEncoder with the following settings:
HDTV preset
Video quality: 70
Audio quality: maximum
Resize the video so that the video width is 400 pixels, maintaining the aspect ratio.

Good/bad(?) news about video playback

Here's the official list of supported audio/video formats.
It has .avi DivX included out of the box, so we can finally expect hardware accelerated playback without conversion!
Xvid, on the other hand, is not listed. Don't really know if it means no xvid (my DVD player doesn't officially support Xvid either, but plays them fine).

vangrieg said:
Here's the official list of supported audio/video formats.
It has .avi DivX included out of the box, so we can finally expect hardware accelerated playback without conversion!
Xvid, on the other hand, is not listed. Don't really know if it means no xvid (my DVD player doesn't officially support Xvid either, but plays them fine).
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That's great news!
According to this WP7 supports h264 at both main profile and high profile which means that we could easily watch 720p videos downloaded from youtube. So it means that even mkv files will just need to be remuxed which takes only few minutes. Great!
For perfect support it needs mkv support with subtitles.
And remember that all this is hardware accelerated!

Yeah, but 99.99% of my video files are xvid avis, don't know if I can watch these.

vangrieg said:
Yeah, but 99.99% of my video files are xvid avis, don't know if I can watch these.
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yeah lets hope that coreplayer or somebody makes a player that supports all media file types

They can't do it in managed code. Period. Even if they could, there' no freakin' way to copy files to a WP7 device.

vangrieg said:
They can't do it in managed code. Period. Even if they could, there' no freakin' way to copy files to a WP7 device.
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well i guess we will just see when it comes out, who knows what they will add with updates & what kind of hacks they come up with here

vangrieg said:
Yeah, but 99.99% of my video files are xvid avis, don't know if I can watch these.
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This is subject to change so they can still add support for xvid, if not you'll have to change fourCC from xvid to divx and you're good to go(unless your xvid's have some exotic features that don't exist in divx).

OK, sounds good, so it could be really usable in terms of video playback (not to mention that so far it's the best out-of-the-box format support in the market). Still no AC3 sound though.

vangrieg said:
OK, sounds good, so it could be really usable in terms of video playback (not to mention that so far it's the best out-of-the-box format support in the market). Still no AC3 sound though.
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AC3 would be nice but overkill. Who needs 6 channel stream on a mobile device
It would be useful only when connected to HDTV through HDMI cable
Next thing they must add is MKV support with subtitles

Wishmaster89 said:
AC3 would be nice but overkill. Who needs 6 channel stream on a mobile device
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I don't need 6 channels on a mobile device of course (in fact, I don't even care for 6 channels at home). I just don't want to convert the damned things.

vangrieg said:
I don't need 6 channels on a mobile device of course (in fact, I don't even care for 6 channels at home). I just don't want to convert the damned things.
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Conversion of the audio track itself shouldn't last longer than 10 minutes so I wouldn't call that long. But I agree having AC3 support on the device would be very consumer friendly so maybe in future release.
I would love to have FLAC support too

Wishmaster89 said:
Conversion of the audio track itself shouldn't last longer than 10 minutes so I wouldn't call that long. But I agree having AC3 support on the device would be very consumer friendly so maybe in future release.
I would love to have FLAC support too
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what kind of program would u recommend to convert these files mine always takes 4ever, but then again my laptop is pretty darn slow, but what do u use?

As of today, Zune software recognizes Xvid files and plays them fine on the software. For the Zune HD player, it converts it into wmv prior to syncing it. But in the following months, the device will get Native Xvid support. So, my guess is WP7S will have Zune HD-like playback abilities, so, Xvid is definitively a go.
MKV thought are not played in the software.

havox22 said:
what kind of program would u recommend to convert these files mine always takes 4ever, but then again my laptop is pretty darn slow, but what do u use?
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MeGUI not the easiest tool but the most powerful.

Wishmaster89 said:
MeGUI not the easiest tool but the most powerful.
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ok thanks, im sure ill have it figured out bout time wp7 hits

Wishmaster89 said:
MeGUI not the easiest tool but the most powerful.
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MeGUI is a great tool. I use it all the time. It real easy to you after you figure it out for the first time.

megui is for kiddies.
x264 cmd line is where it's @

JediFonger said:
megui is for kiddies.
x264 cmd line is where it's @
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Try converting ac3 using x264 cmd

JediFonger said:
megui is for kiddies.
x264 cmd line is where it's @
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Well I guess I'm to lazy to use the command line.

Wishmaster89 said:
Who needs 6 channel stream on a mobile device
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Me. Coupled with form of decent headphone virtualisation system, naturally.
Dolby Headphone would do at a pinch, but something based on Smyth Virtual Surround would be even better.

Media Playback

I had all but given up hope on this topic, but I guess I'll ask.
The Samsung Galaxy S will play Divx/Xvid/MKV natively without a conversion. This is probably one of the best features I have ever heard, as I have hoped for it to be in some sort of mobile device I already owned, such as a phone, psp, or some other multi-purpose device, instead of having to buy a standalone media player which tends to play many formats.
All videos I watch are encoded in these formats (well mkv encoded in x264, with mkv container). Is there, or will there ever be a way to play these on Android 2.1 or 2.2 for other models? I have an evo, and would be EC-FREAKING-STATIC if I could just drag and drop videos to watch on it. Especially with the hdmi out!! I love the evo, I really think it is great. This one feature is the icing on the cake for me.
If it cannot be done, can somebody just give me a brief description as to why? The way I see it, when you need to play these files on a pc, you just install a video codec to decode it. Isn't there some way it can be added?
Thanks to anyone who takes the time to answer this.
P.S.- For anyone who thinks conversion isn't a big deal, I agree, it really isn't. The thing is, a lot of the time I find out I need to be somewhere, have to leave right away, and don't have anything converted to watch. I can't tell you how many times I wish I had this feature!

atm there are not many options, at least as far as i know...
stock player (good baseline h264 playback)
rockplayer (good divx/xvid playback)
yxplayer (decent main/high h264 playback)
for everything else, i simply have "stream" folder on my PC, drop all other vids there, and play them using OrbLive while on the go.

Damn I have been living in the dark. Thanks!

just finished playing with rockplayer, and its pretty darn good
im actually waiting for something bad to happen, and then i
remember... I'm not using a windows mobile phone anymore.

gabemeyers said:
just finished playing with rockplayer, and its pretty darn good
im actually waiting for something bad to happen, and then i
remember... I'm not using a windows mobile phone anymore.
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lol, see now that's funny!

Wuzhenhua player maybe? I havent tried it out on the evo yet but it worked solidly on my other device.

[Q] Video Encoding Settings?

So, I have my N72013, and my 1080p MKV files play, but the audio doesn't. I was wondering if anyone has played with Handbrake / h.264 settings / whatever to get some good quality video on here. I'm more concerned with quality than size.
I'm not super familiar with video encoding, but I'm using handbrake on OSX. Thanks in advance!

I regularly use Handbrake. What is the original source (Blu-ray?) and what are your settings under the Audio tab?

phydo said:
So, I have my N72013, and my 1080p MKV files play, but the audio doesn't. I was wondering if anyone has played with Handbrake / h.264 settings / whatever to get some good quality video on here. I'm more concerned with quality than size.
I'm not super familiar with video encoding, but I'm using handbrake on OSX. Thanks in advance!
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Same issue. Try using MX player with this custom codec : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2156254.
It worked for me

Pandae said:
I regularly use Handbrake. What is the original source (Blu-ray?) and what are your settings under the Audio tab?
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Well, the original source is a downloaded MKV. I swear it's all legit. the file has .1080p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H.264 appended to it. so it's already an h.264 mkv. I'd prefer to play it in the stock media player on android if possible, with audio. I'm not big on having more apps... kinda freaks me out. I'd rather transcode all the audio in these videos to make it work lol. Yes, I'm that guy.
My audio settings that I'm going to use are whatever you tell me. I haven't transcoded anything yet, because I figured I'd ask here before I made a mistake. Couldn't find much in the way of google besides forum.doom9.org/archive/index.php/t-168407.html - but it wasn't clear to me since I'm not familiar with this stuff, and I think it's more an audio format issue than a video.

If audio was encoded with something that MX Player doesn't handle natively, then as NeXuS7_uSeR said, you'll need a custom codec. It would be faster than re-encoding, unless you wanted to reduce file size in exchange for video quality loss.
Handbrake can change the audio codec, if you've never experimented with that. You can mix down an audio track to regular stereo tracks encoded in MP3, which then any player should handle.

Pandae said:
If audio was encoded with something that MX Player doesn't handle natively, then as NeXuS7_uSeR said, you'll need a custom codec. It would be faster than re-encoding, unless you wanted to reduce file size in exchange for video quality loss.
Handbrake can change the audio codec, if you've never experimented with that. You can mix down an audio track to regular stereo tracks encoded in MP3, which then any player should handle.
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is MX Player really that earth shattering where it's worthwhile downloading as an app?

phydo said:
is MX Player really that earth shattering where it's worthwhile downloading as an app?
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It's been my favorite. I've tried others but don't care for the interfaces. When Android 4.3 broke most video players, I found one that was pretty good (name escapes me right now) except that it didn't handle subtitles well. I keep coming back to MX.

Pandae said:
It's been my favorite. I've tried others but don't care for the interfaces. When Android 4.3 broke most video players, I found one that was pretty good (name escapes me right now) except that it didn't handle subtitles well. I keep coming back to MX.
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Just as a follow up, I did find this commit in CM11
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/56453/
from two days ago. maybe I need an update