I have rooted, installed Amon Ra flash recovery, and currently using CM6.
I forgot to do the backup flash when I had my stock rom, so I went ahead and backed up the CM6. Is that okay?
SHicks18 said:
I have rooted, installed Amon Ra flash recovery, and currently using CM6.
I forgot to do the backup flash when I had my stock rom, so I went ahead and backed up the CM6. Is that okay?
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uhhh well, if you didn't need you're old stock rom or ever wanted to flash back to it you needed to back that up aswell, im guessing you atleast backedup your data and apps using mybackuppro or titanum?
From my research so far...and I have yet to actually commit to first root...you could just load the rooted 1.47...set it up...and back up that.
But...if I have the terminology right (please experts chime in as it will help me too)...titanium or whatever only backs up stuff...not the rom.
Nandroid back up is everything....
Which did you do? If you back up all the apps and whatever settings with titanium or my backup...then you should be ok regardless of rom.
If you are talking nandroid backup....then CM6 is now your fall back for everything.
So...my plan is to do my first nandroid with rooted 1.47. (Well it is at this moment in time.)
ps...is it nand or nandroid...oh well.
I could always download the stock rom, flash it as my backup, and go from there... correct?
SHicks18 said:
I could always download the stock rom, flash it as my backup, and go from there... correct?
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yes, that's an possible option.
youngdhillon said:
yes, that's an possible option.
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But...remember difference between stock Rom and rooted stock Rom...at least that is what I am reading. If you want to keep root...use a rooted version of that stock Rom.
(I have seen one thread saying could be issues.)
ps...again more experienced please chime in.
if you want to be safe dl rooted stock rom, flash radio then wimax then rom, once thats done do a nandroid backup of that then a nandriod restore of cm6 presto all warm and fuzzy with backups.
sablesurfer said:
..you could just load the rooted 1.47...set it up...and back up that.
But...if I have the terminology right (please experts chime in as it will help me too)...titanium or whatever only backs up stuff...not the rom.
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This is correct you can always just re flash a rooted stock rom to get back to the ... rooted stock rom. since CM6 nightly is still a bit touch and go and probably not ready to be most peoples daily driver i would suggest doing this sooner rather then later so you have a fall back.
sablesurfer said:
Nandroid back up is everything....
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This isnt exactly true. It does not back up radios, hboot, recovery. This usually isnt a big deal unless you are switching between roms using 1.47 and the older radios.
What i personally do is keep a fall back nandroid (or nand both same) of the stock rom as well as one for each rom i tend to play with (right now i have a cm6, dc3.5, and dc 3.2.3) this way i can easily restore to the roms i am playing with (cm6 dc 3.5) or back to my daily driver (dc 3,2,3) with out having to much of an issue.
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simple, is nandroid backup = back up and restore tool from rom manager?
thanks for the answers: )
Yes.
'Nandroid' was the name of the 1st tool that did full nand flash image backups on the G1 and it's stuck ever since.
AWESOME!! thanks for the answer very kind of you
Hope you don't mind but i'm gonna piggy back a question.
Does a nandroid backup also back up the kernal?
In other words if I flash a different kernal, find out I don't like it. Then revert my rom to a past one. Does it also revert my kernal? If no, is it possible to make a backup of my kernal?
Not at all actually I'm glad you asked that.
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ddgarcia05 said:
Hope you don't mind but i'm gonna piggy back a question.
Does a nandroid backup also back up the kernal?
In other words if I flash a different kernal, find out I don't like it. Then revert my rom to a past one. Does it also revert my kernal? If no, is it possible to make a backup of my kernal?
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Pretty sure it backs up EVERYTHING, so that you could restore a phone just from that backup. Would be pretty useless without the kernal, now wouldn't it?
hey i had skyraider then used chad's kernal and it got stuck in the boot loop. so i just restored it using the clockwork. now everything is back to normal just rooted. so...if i ever decide i want to go back to stock rom and kernal when i have custom roms and kernals cant i just restore it back to normal? does this make sense?
Is the backup you have of SkyRaider or a backup of the Stock ROM you made after rooting? You can always restore backups of anything you make to the point in which the backup was made. You should backup before flashing something new, in case you don't like it...saves lots of work.
If you want to go back to complete stock, un-rooted and all, you'd have to use the RUU. This would be putting the phone to the point just like it was when you unboxed it and turned it on.
ah ok i get it. yea i backed up before i flashed skyraider and the kernel. Thx
No problem, just some added info: the backup you make will also keep the kernel, so if you flash a custom kernel and backup the ROM, it'll keep that kernel too. So there's no need to reflash that if you restore a backup.
And s-on patch to unroot. Dont get in the situation like me where you can't s-on and use your warranty
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I'm on the Mikg 2.1 + 3.0 rom, and ran into a problem trying to restore my backup after briefly trying out another rom. Using AmonRA, after restoring my backup it loads like normal but when the lockscreen comes up there is no ring or way to unlock the phone. Does anybody know what happened? Is my backup no good? Going to have to reload the stock rom to get back into my phone.
Thanks
joelthebassplayer said:
I'm on the Mikg 2.1 + 3.0 rom, and ran into a problem trying to restore my backup after briefly trying out another rom. Using AmonRA, after restoring my backup it loads like normal but when the lockscreen comes up there is no ring or way to unlock the phone. Does anybody know what happened? Is my backup no good? Going to have to reload the stock rom to get back into my phone.
Thanks
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Just flash the rom over your setup now, fastest way to fix it for right now. Or boot back into recovery and wipe cache/dalvik
I guess I will switch back to clockwork recovery since I have used it to restore my stock backup before. Don't know what happened to this backup that I made on AmonRA, but if it doesn't work I won't be using it anymore.
I'm having the same problem. I have done multiple nandroid backups with Amon_Ra that are not restoring properly...
I don't flash over anything critical, but it's becoming an inconvienience.
Are you saying that CWM is not doing this?
I hae only used amon ra after rooting with no problems. Might be a bad recovery. Just my 2cents.
joelthebassplayer said:
I'm on the Mikg 2.1 + 3.0 rom, and ran into a problem trying to restore my backup after briefly trying out another rom. Using AmonRA, after restoring my backup it loads like normal but when the lockscreen comes up there is no ring or way to unlock the phone. Does anybody know what happened? Is my backup no good? Going to have to reload the stock rom to get back into my phone.
Thanks
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Same problem here. I did a full wipe before restoring and wonder if that was the problem. Did you do a full wipe before restoring?
stealthl said:
Same problem here. I did a full wipe before restoring and wonder if that was the problem. Did you do a full wipe before restoring?
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All of you guys are using Amon and having restore issues.. Not something I have really ever heard of. Is it a 32gb card
After I restored I was missing market. Running deck 1.3
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Mine is a 16gb card. I couldn't unlock the phone after restore. There was no unlock ring. Running mik 2.5
I have the same issue. 32gb card. Amon-ra. fortunately clockwork works. Unfortunately I have to use clockwork. I even reformatted and repartitioned. Still no luck
We're comin from a pure power source.
I've also restored from Amon Ra and had weird things missing.
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holy crap im having the same issues. I did a nandroid restore with amon ra 2.3 and now even after a full WIPE I cannot get the same rom that I had restored at one point working again. Market app is missing. WTF?
Not sure what's going on exactly. However, I have noticed that's get weird restores when I wipe the .Android directory and don't back it up. That has all my sdcard programs. That winner explain the missing ring, but maybe the market.
how do I switch from amon ra to clockworkmod? and which is the latest & greatest version?
I wanna give it a try just for the heck
350zx6r said:
how do I switch from amon ra to clockworkmod? and which is the latest & greatest version?
I wanna give it a try just for the heck
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I used ROM manager from market when I wanted to try it out.
350zx6r said:
how do I switch from amon ra to clockworkmod? and which is the latest & greatest version?
I wanna give it a try just for the heck
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Go to the dev section, search clockworkmod and it'll come out; the latest version is 5.0.2 I believe. You can also download rom manager from the market.
should i be able to just flash it using rom manager? I just wanna give it a try to see if I can sort this issue im having. thx everyone!
I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
rockypr said:
I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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Basically make a nandroid with GB recovery the flash ics. If you want to restore Odin GB rom then nandroid restore.
Every rom should have instructions and as long as they are followed you should be safe.
Look up sfhub (I think) and agats custom recovery threads for more info.
Happy independence day!
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rockypr said:
I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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Nandroids are perfectly safe, the only time when they're not safe, is when you make/restore from one on ICS.
The problem with all these ICS leaks, is a bug plaguing the emmc, which I believe that some methods of using ICS recoveries makes it wipe or something. Point is, it causes a brick. Here is the method that I use when flashing ICS, which works for most ICS ROMs, as most ICS ROMs need an EL26/EL29 framework. Pretty sure Paranoidandroid recommends this method, too.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the flashing files onto your sd card, load up CWM, do 1 system data wipe, and flash the files in the order they have to be flashed.
Also, really important, DO NOT DIRECTLY RESTORE FROM A NANDROID You will most likely cause a brick if you do.
If you want to go back to GB, you have to Odin back to GB, and THEN you can perform the Nandroid Restore.
F3L1XZS said:
Nandroids are perfectly safe, the only time when they're not safe, is when you make/restore from one on ICS.
The problem with all these ICS leaks, is a bug plaguing the emmc, which I believe that some methods of using ICS recoveries makes it wipe or something. Point is, it causes a brick. Here is the method that I use when flashing ICS, which works for most ICS ROMs, as most ICS ROMs need an EL26/EL29 framework. Pretty sure Paranoidandroid recommends this method, too.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the flashing files onto your sd card, load up CWM, do 1 system data wipe, and flash the files in the order they have to be flashed.
Also, really important, DO NOT DIRECTLY RESTORE FROM A NANDROID You will most likely cause a brick if you do.
If you want to go back to GB, you have to Odin back to GB, and THEN you can perform the Nandroid Restore.
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Great info THANKS!!!!...
Also there is no problem to flash that EL26 file? when my stock is el29?
rockypr said:
Great info THANKS!!!!...
Also there is no problem to flash that EL26 file? when my stock is el29?
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For OC ODIN, you don't have to worry about flashing, just plug your phone into the computer once you have the program running, an the drivers, and you'll be fine.
And yeah, you can go back using ODIN.
You just shouldn't use CWM to flash an older version of something if you're on the newer version.
So if install ICS and I want to return to GB the safe thing to do is run Odin back to stock rooted then Nandroid Restore?
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rockypr said:
So if install ICS and I want to return to GB the safe thing to do is run Odin back to stock rooted then Nandroid Restore?
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That is correct.
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I've been playing around and checking out a few ROMS (CM9 and CM10), but since they aren't fully complete I want to go back to stock. when I rooted I made a Nandroid backup in recovery. Now If i want to go stock again do I just wipe everything and use the backup I made. Still confused because I flashed kiss kernal. Will restoring remove the kiss kernal?
No need to wipe before you restore your backup, and it will install the stock kernel also
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No... restoring from nandroid will not removed the flashed kiss kernel.
You need to flash a stock boot.img first before nandroid restore or you can flash kiss kernel that is meant for a sense rom first. Without reflashing kernel, you'll be in bootloop.
My bad
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Thanks a lot!
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I've been playing around and checking out a few ROMS (CM9 and CM10), but since they aren't fully complete I want to go back to stock. when I rooted I made a Nandroid backup in recovery. Now If i want to go stock again do I just wipe everything and use the backup I made. Still confused because I flashed kiss kernal. Will restoring remove the kiss kernal?
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Can you share me the stock backup, upload to mediafire or something. i just want to go back to stock rom too. thanks a lot if can
chiplovez9x said:
Can you share me the stock backup, upload to mediafire or something. i just want to go back to stock rom too. thanks a lot if can
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I asked this in the IRC and was told you would need to flash the stock ROM (RUU?).
Think its this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591059
Someone could verify.
Not sure how to tell which one you need either. Anyone know what I'd need for Koodo Canada version?
chiplovez9x said:
Can you share me the stock backup, upload to mediafire or something. i just want to go back to stock rom too. thanks a lot if can
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I would but I have the Middle Eastern model (PrimoU), and im kind of a noob. But if you think it will work on your message me and i'll upload .
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Not sure how to tell which one you need either. Anyone know what I'd need for Koodo Canada version?
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I would get the Telus RUU, but only flash the kernel (boot.img) as I imagine that even if their ROMs are different, they'll be running the same kernel.
Here's how to get the boot.img out of the RUU:
Run the RUU (no need to connect the phone, all you want it to do is extract)
Go to %temp% (Start, Run..., enter %temp%)
Sort by date to find the most recent folder
Find rom.zip in there, open it and extract the boot.img wherever you like
After that you should be able to just fastboot flash boot boot.img like any other kernel, and restore your original nandroid.
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I would get the Telus RUU, but only flash the kernel (boot.img) as I imagine that even if their ROMs are different, they'll be running the same kernel.
Here's how to get the boot.img out of the RUU:
Run the RUU (no need to connect the phone, all you want it to do is extract)
Go to %temp% (Start, Run..., enter %temp%)
Sort by date to find the most recent folder
Find rom.zip in there, open it and extract the boot.img wherever you like
After that you should be able to just fastboot flash boot boot.img like any other kernel, and restore your original nandroid.
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Thank you, I've bookmarked this thread for my future use
Loving the speed of CM9 since I'm assuming its mostly due to the OC'd processor.
Twner said:
I've been playing around and checking out a few ROMS (CM9 and CM10), but since they aren't fully complete I want to go back to stock. when I rooted I made a Nandroid backup in recovery. Now If i want to go stock again do I just wipe everything and use the backup I made. Still confused because I flashed kiss kernal. Will restoring remove the kiss kernal?
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you need to restore a kernel that is compatible with stock roms, or either the stock kernel itself. Please note, that the boot.img inside the nandroid is NOT a fastboot flashable one, and cwm will NOT flash the boot file.
Also, it is unsure, that one phones nandroid will work in an other phone, not to mention that if cid mismatches it won't even work (this is a lesson I have learned in my own faliures).
Ken-Shi_Kun said:
Also, it is unsure, that one phones nandroid will work in an other phone, not to mention that if cid mismatches it won't even work (this is a lesson I have learned in my own faliures).
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I can confirm the nandroid from other phone is working for another phone. I just tested that. Use the nandroid backup for my phone and restore it on my wife's phone. Tested with a 2.09.707.1 nandroid backup. Once reboot, the OTA update notification is there.