Brandon is explaning and showing this version of WP7 in the emulator. Much will not be changed according to Brandon. An RC?
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Just a discussion came up and made me wonder if this is even possable. This is the place to ask, so here we go.
All WP7 models seem to run at 1ghz or higher, thinking the concept that WM 6.5 runs pretty well on hardware that runs at 400-528mhz range. Would it be possable to have a emulator that runs on the platform so you can run 6.1/6.5 on a WP7 phone ? This would allow you to be able to run some older apps with still having WP7.
I would not expect intense games (maybe a card game ok) to run at full speed or anything but, things like Remote desktop and other base apps might be ok with this.
This type of thing would run on any phone (with 1ghz+ hardware) just depending on if all the hardware is supported.
Or I guess there might be a way to "shut down" 7 and open 6.5 kind of how Android runs on the TP2.
The emulator idea came up because it might be able to run on any model with minor updates vs. a boot up just for one phone.
Just some ideas...even if it is possable.
Thanks for reading and dreaming (well I am still waiting for a Verizon WP7 phone)
No sorry, the emulator runs on the x86 architecture, not on ARM.
Dave
DaveShaw said:
No sorry, the emulator runs on the x86 architecture, not on ARM.
Dave
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Maybe I'm misreading the original question, but it sounds like he is asking if it were possible to have an app that would run old Windows Mobile apps, kind of like Classic on WebOS.
well at present we (3rd party) developers wouldn't be able to make something like this as all the APIs don't actually exist. someone with knowledge of the whole code base of windows phone 7 could probably do it but i doubt we'll see it happen. if there are programs you need on windows phone 7, it is definitely faster to just have it redone. it's really only the UI that needs redoing, if it was written in VB or C#, a lot of the code will still work.
Hi !
As far as I know, beneath Windows Phone 7 there is basically still Windows CE running. So I'm wondering, is/may/will it be possible to run Windows Mobile 6 Apps on Windows Phone 7? Or do we already know that this can't happen because the underlying architecture is too different? Is anyone working on this?
For example, has anyone tried to copy a Windows Mobile 6 Filemanager to WP7 and run it somehow?
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intripoon
I'm going to go with no here.... not only from all of the months and months and months of people saying no but from the simple fact that WP7 is based on silverlight which wm 6.1 and 6.5 aren't.... at all....
This is why aps aren't backwards OR forwards compatible which people put up a pretty big stink about when WP7 was announced but seems to have died down now that we're able to see what can actually be done with silverlight
So... no.. not compatible
Also, just think about the work to emulate the wm6 crappiness. Thousand of empty bucles, glitchy graphic rendering, millions of delays, agggg..
No, seriously. Windows Mobile was powerful, but it's just too old. It should be possible to emulate the applications (in theory everything is possible), but I think is just too much effort, and there is no such big reason to put resources on something like that.
I was wondering, tht when buying a new smartphone if I go with windows based OS on mobile, will I be able to run any software tht can run on windows based desktop computer? If not, such functionality is expected to come with forthcoming Windows 8 mobile?
PS: I wana run my live stock market terminal on mobile phone.
Since ver 7, the os is no longer called windows mobile; its now called windows phone. but to answer your question, no you can't run desktop applications on windows phone (or windows mobile for that matter) and this is unlikely to change.
That said I'm sure you can find another application to achieve whatever it is that you're after on the marketplace...
:-( my all needs are getting completed with an smartphone, but i guess eventually i will have to buy a laptop as well... just to run my stockmarket software.... Damn and they are telling smartphones (Like SGS2 etc.) are quickly replacing laptops...
PS: Wht is the latest ver. of windows phone called and, what is the windows phone marketplace url (Kind of new to smartphones)
Well for a lot of people smartphones or tablets can replace computers, most people aren't stockbrokers!
The latest version of Windows Phone is 7.5 Mango, which is currently at RTM stage - i.e. released to OEMs pending approval for new devices and upgrades to existing devices.
The Windows Phone Marketplace can only be accessed via the phone or via the Zune desktop software. The Zune software comes highly recommended from me, it's a very, very good media management software and I can't live without the wireless sync function anymore!
You can browse the marketplace through Zune without owning a Windows Phone device.
Perhaps you could let the community know what it is exactly that you need to do and someone might be able to suggest something?
EDIT: As you're new to smartphones, from a usability perspective Windows Phone 7 would be an excellent choice for you - it is simply brilliant to use, the interface is understated and elegant and the lack of pointless graphics makes it both simple and quick. Microsoft have clearly put massive effort into making Windows Phone highly usable and have surpassed pretty much all expectations, especially with the 7.5 update, which brings in a huge amount of functionality. A lot of people try and put Windows Phone down having never used it, because it's one of those things that needs you to spend 10 minutes with it to understand - but once you've spent 9 minutes with it, everything else just seems ridiculously complicated.
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:-( my all needs are getting completed with an smartphone, but i guess eventually i will have to buy a laptop as well... just to run my stockmarket software.... Damn and they are telling smartphones (Like SGS2 etc.) are quickly replacing laptops...
PS: Wht is the latest ver. of windows phone called and, what is the windows phone marketplace url (Kind of new to smartphones)
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Silverlight in Windows
Hi
Silverlight apps are currently available in Windows and I think that the concept being put out there at the moment is that Windows 8 will run the same apps as Windows Mobile 8.
Nobody knows if this will become a reality or not.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
olivespin said:
I was wondering, tht when buying a new smartphone if I go with windows based OS on mobile, will I be able to run any software tht can run on windows based desktop computer? If not, such functionality is expected to come with forthcoming Windows 8 mobile?
PS: I wana run my live stock market terminal on mobile phone.
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The best thing for you to do would be to find a mobile version of the software you are trying to run. Then get the device that runs that particular software.
The closest you'll come to running your "exact" software on a mobile device is to get a Windows based tablet or laptop. But to run your stock software on a smartphone, you will need the "mobile" version of that software, if it exists.
Also, check to see if your stock-terminal application is web-based. If it is, you may be able to access what you need with ANY smartphone through the smartphone's web browser. That means your "stock terminal" would work on Windows Phone, iPhone, Android, etc.
Hi all
I heard about windows rt and windows 8 on tablets and phones.
My goal is to find a way (if there's one) to enjoy windows app, games (oldest ones) and compatibility (on my tab s if available).
Windows 8 cannot be on arm so I forgot him.
After I heard about windows rt. The problems are : 1 you can only have the os when you have the machine sold with 2: you can only install apps from the store so the compatibility is broken.
Finally I heard about windows ce who can be on arm if you buy the licence. I searched but I doesn't found any 'windows store' or incompatibility
with .exe. (most people are using on x86 devices )
Thanks for answers and if windows ce cannot be used like a native windows I would be happy to know why (Im pretty sure It can't but i hope)
Ilphrin
Do you have any idea how limited Windows CE is? It cannot run ANYTHING at all.
you can also install win 95 or xp
if only we could have Vista
anyway this stuff almost always requires root and kernel tweaks etc.. also the OS you want to run has to have been made to run on our architecture at some point or you have to run it inside a VM.
i have done a bunch with Linux distros over the years and those are much easier than Windows and still it has never developed to be enjoyable to use.
best option is to find an app that does what you liked in Windows since you should find most things these days.
I have a RCA android tablet. I have been doing some research and found that windows RT will work on ARM based tablets. However I cannot find a download or any information on how to load RT on my tablet. The only think I can find is Windows RT 8.1 ADK kit. Now according to the software the kit is suppose to be for deploying windows OS on any ARM based tablets, but as far as I can tell there is no GUI and I only took electronical engineering at ITT tech, I don't know **** about programing or code. So what I am asking is, is there a download available that you can download onto your desktop, connect a tablet and load windows RT. Also, has anyone seen this changemysoftware.com **** on you tube that claims to change your OS for you in like 15 minutes? Tried to download and all I get is some bull about the version I have is old and I need to download a new version but the mirror sites to download the app just keep you running in circles until you give up or spend all kinds of money. Sorry, had to vent a little there. Anyway, don't really care for android os and don't want to have to go out and buy a tablet with windows pre installed.
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I have a RCA android tablet. I have been doing some research and found that windows RT will work on ARM based tablets. However I cannot find a download or any information on how to load RT on my tablet. The only think I can find is Windows RT 8.1 ADK kit. Now according to the software the kit is suppose to be for deploying windows OS on any ARM based tablets, but as far as I can tell there is no GUI and I only took electronical engineering at ITT tech, I don't know **** about programing or code. So what I am asking is, is there a download available that you can download onto your desktop, connect a tablet and load windows RT. Also, has anyone seen this changemysoftware.com **** on you tube that claims to change your OS for you in like 15 minutes? Tried to download and all I get is some bull about the version I have is old and I need to download a new version but the mirror sites to download the app just keep you running in circles until you give up or spend all kinds of money. Sorry, had to vent a little there. Anyway, don't really care for android os and don't want to have to go out and buy a tablet with windows pre installed.
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Though I am not familiar with Windows RT and its architecture, for your question, all I can say is, just like people build android os from source by using its sources (AOSP and it's derivatives), IMO, you need to do a similar task to make Windows RT only for your device. The os for mobiles are device-specific type. And maybe the same trees- Device Trees, Vendor Trees and Kernel sources (which OEM provides) is used in Windows RT also.
P.S. I can bet my life that Android (or more precisely Linux) is more cooler than Windows!
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Though I am not familiar with Windows RT and its architecture, for your question, all I can say is, just like people build android os from source by using its sources (AOSP and it's derivatives), IMO, you need to do a similar task to make Windows RT only for your device. The os for mobiles are device-specific type. And maybe the same trees- Device Trees, Vendor Trees and Kernel sources (which OEM provides) is used in Windows RT also.
P.S. I can bet my life that Android (or more precisely Linux) is more cooler than Windows!
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Thank you for your response, however this really doesn't answer my question. I there a download somewhere for windows rt and how do you load it onto a tablet with arm processor? And as far as my phones are concerned I love android, but for a computer I like to browse actual websites not mobile ones and if I need to create a document I prefer office and all the functionality that I already know how to use.