Hi all
I heard about windows rt and windows 8 on tablets and phones.
My goal is to find a way (if there's one) to enjoy windows app, games (oldest ones) and compatibility (on my tab s if available).
Windows 8 cannot be on arm so I forgot him.
After I heard about windows rt. The problems are : 1 you can only have the os when you have the machine sold with 2: you can only install apps from the store so the compatibility is broken.
Finally I heard about windows ce who can be on arm if you buy the licence. I searched but I doesn't found any 'windows store' or incompatibility
with .exe. (most people are using on x86 devices )
Thanks for answers and if windows ce cannot be used like a native windows I would be happy to know why (Im pretty sure It can't but i hope)
Ilphrin
Do you have any idea how limited Windows CE is? It cannot run ANYTHING at all.
you can also install win 95 or xp
if only we could have Vista
anyway this stuff almost always requires root and kernel tweaks etc.. also the OS you want to run has to have been made to run on our architecture at some point or you have to run it inside a VM.
i have done a bunch with Linux distros over the years and those are much easier than Windows and still it has never developed to be enjoyable to use.
best option is to find an app that does what you liked in Windows since you should find most things these days.
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I was wondering, tht when buying a new smartphone if I go with windows based OS on mobile, will I be able to run any software tht can run on windows based desktop computer? If not, such functionality is expected to come with forthcoming Windows 8 mobile?
PS: I wana run my live stock market terminal on mobile phone.
Since ver 7, the os is no longer called windows mobile; its now called windows phone. but to answer your question, no you can't run desktop applications on windows phone (or windows mobile for that matter) and this is unlikely to change.
That said I'm sure you can find another application to achieve whatever it is that you're after on the marketplace...
:-( my all needs are getting completed with an smartphone, but i guess eventually i will have to buy a laptop as well... just to run my stockmarket software.... Damn and they are telling smartphones (Like SGS2 etc.) are quickly replacing laptops...
PS: Wht is the latest ver. of windows phone called and, what is the windows phone marketplace url (Kind of new to smartphones)
Well for a lot of people smartphones or tablets can replace computers, most people aren't stockbrokers!
The latest version of Windows Phone is 7.5 Mango, which is currently at RTM stage - i.e. released to OEMs pending approval for new devices and upgrades to existing devices.
The Windows Phone Marketplace can only be accessed via the phone or via the Zune desktop software. The Zune software comes highly recommended from me, it's a very, very good media management software and I can't live without the wireless sync function anymore!
You can browse the marketplace through Zune without owning a Windows Phone device.
Perhaps you could let the community know what it is exactly that you need to do and someone might be able to suggest something?
EDIT: As you're new to smartphones, from a usability perspective Windows Phone 7 would be an excellent choice for you - it is simply brilliant to use, the interface is understated and elegant and the lack of pointless graphics makes it both simple and quick. Microsoft have clearly put massive effort into making Windows Phone highly usable and have surpassed pretty much all expectations, especially with the 7.5 update, which brings in a huge amount of functionality. A lot of people try and put Windows Phone down having never used it, because it's one of those things that needs you to spend 10 minutes with it to understand - but once you've spent 9 minutes with it, everything else just seems ridiculously complicated.
olivespin said:
:-( my all needs are getting completed with an smartphone, but i guess eventually i will have to buy a laptop as well... just to run my stockmarket software.... Damn and they are telling smartphones (Like SGS2 etc.) are quickly replacing laptops...
PS: Wht is the latest ver. of windows phone called and, what is the windows phone marketplace url (Kind of new to smartphones)
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Silverlight in Windows
Hi
Silverlight apps are currently available in Windows and I think that the concept being put out there at the moment is that Windows 8 will run the same apps as Windows Mobile 8.
Nobody knows if this will become a reality or not.
Cheers
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olivespin said:
I was wondering, tht when buying a new smartphone if I go with windows based OS on mobile, will I be able to run any software tht can run on windows based desktop computer? If not, such functionality is expected to come with forthcoming Windows 8 mobile?
PS: I wana run my live stock market terminal on mobile phone.
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The best thing for you to do would be to find a mobile version of the software you are trying to run. Then get the device that runs that particular software.
The closest you'll come to running your "exact" software on a mobile device is to get a Windows based tablet or laptop. But to run your stock software on a smartphone, you will need the "mobile" version of that software, if it exists.
Also, check to see if your stock-terminal application is web-based. If it is, you may be able to access what you need with ANY smartphone through the smartphone's web browser. That means your "stock terminal" would work on Windows Phone, iPhone, Android, etc.
I'm a newbee to RT, so please forgive me if this has been asked/answered elsewhere.
I thought that if a developer writes a metro app for Windows 8 it will automatically run on both Windows 8 and Windows 8 RT. I found a situation where this may not be true.
I just picked up a Dell XPS 10 after using Windows 8 on my desktop and a Lenovo Twist. On my Twist and desktop I've been running an app called "Trackage." I like it and wanted to try it on the XPS 10, but a search for the name does not return it as available on RT.
Is there a reason for this? Can someone explain for me?
Thanks in advance,
Rich
Although the vast majority of metro apps will run fine on both systems, the developer does maintain the ability to restrict an app from one platform or another for whatever reason.
It is entirely possible that the trackage developer has deliberately made his/her app unavailable on Windows RT.
There are very few reasons for doing that on metro apps, but clearly its occurred sadly.
I would see if you can find the website for the app and make a feature request.
Thank you very much. That was very helpful!
RT runs on ARM processors, which execute different code than the x86 processors used for traditional Windows systems. Many Metro apps are architecture-independent, meaning they are written in a language that is higher-level than actual machine code and are converted to machine code for whatever CPU they are on when you first run them. However, some Metro apps are written in C/C++, which compiles directly to machine code. Although it is possible to make it compile to ARM in most cases, such apps are not automatically supported on ARM the way other apps are.
some apps cannot run on RT and only on win8
today I talked about the RT OS with ffriends.Suddenly one said that win8 os pad can run on Windows RT and a RT OS PAD can run on win8 x86！！he is joking ！！Besides，he said he did that successfully for many times。。。。。
seven7xiaoyang said:
today I talked about the RT OS with ffriends.Suddenly one said that win8 os pad can run on Windows RT and a RT OS PAD can run on win8 x86！！he is joking ！！Besides，he said he did that successfully for many times。。。。。
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No it cannot. Your friend clearly lacks the common knowledge that RT is for ARM and windows 8 is for x86. Round pegs do not fit square holes.
I can't really understand your English; did you mean "app" where you wrote "pad"? The fact that Win8 and WRT share apps is well known; there are a few apps which are only for one platform or the other but almost all the apps are available for both. Native code apps need to be recompiled for the other platform, but managed (.NET) and HTML5 apps will run un-modified. This is not news.
If you mean the ability to run some x86 desktop apps unmodified on Windows RT, that's due to mamaich's emulation layer, combined with clrokr's "jailbreak" exploit (and usually netham45's scripts to automate the process). Relatively few apps run correctly through that emulation layer, though, and the new Windows Store apps are not supported. There is no support that I'm aware of for running ARM-compiled Windows apps on x86, although ARM emulators certainly do exist and if you could boot Windows RT on one of them, that would allow you to run the apps (somewhat indirectly).
If you mean actually installing Win8 (or any other x86 OS) on Windows RT, that's technically possible through the use of emulators (not sure DOSbox supports enough CPU features for Win8, but Bochs probably does) but the performance is abysmal.
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I can't really understand your English; did you mean "app" where you wrote "pad"? The fact that Win8 and WRT share apps is well known; there are a few apps which are only for one platform or the other but almost all the apps are available for both. Native code apps need to be recompiled for the other platform, but managed (.NET) and HTML5 apps will run un-modified. This is not news.
If you mean the ability to run some x86 desktop apps unmodified on Windows RT, that's due to mamaich's emulation layer, combined with clrokr's "jailbreak" exploit (and usually netham45's scripts to automate the process). Relatively few apps run correctly through that emulation layer, though, and the new Windows Store apps are not supported. There is no support that I'm aware of for running ARM-compiled Windows apps on x86, although ARM emulators certainly do exist and if you could boot Windows RT on one of them, that would allow you to run the apps (somewhat indirectly).
If you mean actually installing Win8 (or any other x86 OS) on Windows RT, that's technically possible through the use of emulators (not sure DOSbox supports enough CPU features for Win8, but Bochs probably does) but the performance is abysmal.
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sorry for my poor English!:crying:.I meant the os not the APP
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sorry for my poor English!:crying:.I meant the os not the APP
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You cannot install Windows 8 x86 directly onto Windows RT hardware. It doesn't work.
You probably saw someone RDPing to an x86 desktop.
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You cannot install Windows 8 x86 directly onto Windows RT hardware. It doesn't work.
You probably saw someone RDPing to an x86 desktop.
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Thank you! I am thinking about the sideloadling the appx,hope for some help
OK, I'm still not sure what you're talking about - just a couple posts up, you said you weren't talking about apps, and now you're talking about .APPX files - but as was mentioned above, most APPX files will be architecture independent (managed code or HTML5); only the native code ones will need different .APPX files for Win8 and RT.
I have a RCA android tablet. I have been doing some research and found that windows RT will work on ARM based tablets. However I cannot find a download or any information on how to load RT on my tablet. The only think I can find is Windows RT 8.1 ADK kit. Now according to the software the kit is suppose to be for deploying windows OS on any ARM based tablets, but as far as I can tell there is no GUI and I only took electronical engineering at ITT tech, I don't know **** about programing or code. So what I am asking is, is there a download available that you can download onto your desktop, connect a tablet and load windows RT. Also, has anyone seen this changemysoftware.com **** on you tube that claims to change your OS for you in like 15 minutes? Tried to download and all I get is some bull about the version I have is old and I need to download a new version but the mirror sites to download the app just keep you running in circles until you give up or spend all kinds of money. Sorry, had to vent a little there. Anyway, don't really care for android os and don't want to have to go out and buy a tablet with windows pre installed.
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I have a RCA android tablet. I have been doing some research and found that windows RT will work on ARM based tablets. However I cannot find a download or any information on how to load RT on my tablet. The only think I can find is Windows RT 8.1 ADK kit. Now according to the software the kit is suppose to be for deploying windows OS on any ARM based tablets, but as far as I can tell there is no GUI and I only took electronical engineering at ITT tech, I don't know **** about programing or code. So what I am asking is, is there a download available that you can download onto your desktop, connect a tablet and load windows RT. Also, has anyone seen this changemysoftware.com **** on you tube that claims to change your OS for you in like 15 minutes? Tried to download and all I get is some bull about the version I have is old and I need to download a new version but the mirror sites to download the app just keep you running in circles until you give up or spend all kinds of money. Sorry, had to vent a little there. Anyway, don't really care for android os and don't want to have to go out and buy a tablet with windows pre installed.
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Though I am not familiar with Windows RT and its architecture, for your question, all I can say is, just like people build android os from source by using its sources (AOSP and it's derivatives), IMO, you need to do a similar task to make Windows RT only for your device. The os for mobiles are device-specific type. And maybe the same trees- Device Trees, Vendor Trees and Kernel sources (which OEM provides) is used in Windows RT also.
P.S. I can bet my life that Android (or more precisely Linux) is more cooler than Windows!
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Though I am not familiar with Windows RT and its architecture, for your question, all I can say is, just like people build android os from source by using its sources (AOSP and it's derivatives), IMO, you need to do a similar task to make Windows RT only for your device. The os for mobiles are device-specific type. And maybe the same trees- Device Trees, Vendor Trees and Kernel sources (which OEM provides) is used in Windows RT also.
P.S. I can bet my life that Android (or more precisely Linux) is more cooler than Windows!
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Thank you for your response, however this really doesn't answer my question. I there a download somewhere for windows rt and how do you load it onto a tablet with arm processor? And as far as my phones are concerned I love android, but for a computer I like to browse actual websites not mobile ones and if I need to create a document I prefer office and all the functionality that I already know how to use.
Microsoft just announced Windows 10 S, a version of Windows based that's focused on Security and Speed. This version of Windows can't run .exe app, but can run things on the Windows Store. With this newer Windows 10 S, would It be hard for them to port it over to the older ARMv7 because there are alot more Windows 10 Store apps than there are Windows 8 store apps, and it might actually make me get a Surface 2 for on the side stuff.
Its possible Win10S will get ported and someone will figure out how to upgrade our RT devices with it..
But not yet as far as I can tell. Although someone got Win10 iOT with some work on the RT systems.
Possibly yes: https://www.theregister.co.uk/AMP/2017/06/23/windows_10_leak/
Isn't windows 10 S only for arm64? Windows RT devices are 32-bit arm
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