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Hi everybody, I just bought a HTC Desire from The Carphone Warehouse on the O2 network.
I've taken it home, inserted my simcard, turned it on and put it on charge. I've flicked through the little introduction screens and then connected to my home WiFi.
I have been reading this and other forums for a while. I want to now root the phone and install a custom ROM.
Before I download any apps or do anything should I first root the phone as soon as possible and install the custom ROM of my choice?
The phone came with a 4GB memory card. I of course want to upgrade this to a bigger card. Should I buy and insert the new memory card before rooting and installing a ROM as I have read about people having problems with installing new memory cards.
Removing the back of the phone scared the life out of me. I thought it was going to snap. I don't fancy doing that too often!
Sorry about the long winded thread but any help would be appreciated.
Personally, if this is your first Android phone, I think you ought to just use it for a couple of weeks, to get familiar with it. There is no point in installing custom ROMs right away before you know what the standard software can or can't do, as you will not have anything to compare the new ROM to.
Many ROMs have issues/bugs, and you would do well to spend a couple of weeks reading up on the forums here, to gain an understanding of what rooting entails, and what you can expect from different ROMs. It is likely you will end up flashing multiple ROMs before settling on one you are happy with, so why not just enjoy your phone for a bit first? Trust me, flashing can become addictive, and you can often end up with a phone that has a non-working feature - which can be frustrating, as well as time consuming.
Also, rooting is very safe now, but regularly new problems are discovered - for instance the recent SLCD brick issue. If you don't know what that is then you need to do more reading. Trust me, you will save yourself lots of hassle in the long run - panicking over a £400 phone that won't boot up, not knowing whether you've broken it permanently, is not a nice feeling.
I'm not trying to put you off at all - rooting is the best thing I've done with my Desire (and my Dream before that), and I'd recommend it to anyone who is interested in unleasing the full power of their phone. But do your research thoroughly first, then ask questions.
In reply to the questions you have asked:
Before I download any apps or do anything should I first root the phone as soon as possible and install the custom ROM of my choice?
If you're going to root then you have to wipe the phone as part of the process, therefore losing any apps you've installed. You would have to then reinstall them. Whether you root now or later, you will still have to install your apps. Once the phone is rooted, you can backup your apps when moving from ROM to ROM - Titanium Backup is good.
Should I buy and insert the new memory card before rooting and installing a ROM as I have read about people having problems with installing new memory cards.
Up to you. If you have the money now then I would go ahead and get the SD card you want now. Saves transferring stuff later on.
When you have any questions feel free to post here in the Q&A section and there will be people more than happy to help you out
Welcome to the world of Android!
EDIT: I have just re-read your post, and realised you said you have been reading the forums for a couple of weeks - I didn't mean to sound patronising at all when I recommended more research. Knowledge is power!
I want to Root my Evo,but i have no idea if i will be able to get my gingerbread or even honeycomb OTA update.
i really dont know how to do manually updates,i dont know if its even hard to do.
What is a good/reliable team to get my rooting access from?
in Mind is the UnrEVOked team.
please give me your opinions to help me make the right decisions.
and threads or anything useful for me to have.
If you stay on the stock ROM you should still be able to get ota's but you might loose your root. The cooked ROMs will be updated usually before the official updates are even rolled out, and most likely tweaked and improved. I wouldn't even worry about sprints updates. As far as choosing a ROM, just read through the development forum and read what the ROM offers and the comments through the thread of users reporting bugs (if any) and opinions of performance. Baked snack, CM, and fresh seem to be the most popular and stable. Start with one of those. I used calkulin and frost, both work well too if you like vanilla Android, fresh was the only sense ROM I used and it was very nice. Its all about what look you want and customization. Thats the beauty of Android.
There are plenty of tutorials on the process, read the useful threads and links thread. Thats a good place to start. When ROMs get updated just flash over the previous unless the dev says a wipe is needed, which is rare.
I mean I love my sense. I can't go on without the beautiful widgets it comes with.
Plus the upgrade they're doing for sense is coming out soon.
But I need to know if a custom recovery is the same as a custom Rom.
I am thinking of doing Unrevoked because its the only one I know that does 2.2 root. Please give me links!
Thanks for the massive help tho.
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Caspers25 said:
I mean I love my sense. I can't go on without the beautiful widgets it comes with.
Plus the upgrade they're doing for sense is coming out soon.
But I need to know if a custom recovery is the same as a custom Rom.
I am thinking of doing Unrevoked because its the only one I know that does 2.2 root. Please give me links!
Thanks for the massive help tho.
Sent from my PC36100
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Custom recovery will either be "R.A." or "ClockworkMod." They are a little different from each other. People usually use R.A. They say that clockworkmod doesn't delete cache right, but I personally use clockwork. What a recovery is, is a menu outside the phones system that allows you to install flashable zips. It also allows you to wipe anything, format anything and create & restore nandroid back ups.
There are tons of Roms. Roms are the system of your phone. Usually flashed from the SD card.
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If you do unrevoked forever, you won't lose root when you accept an OTA.
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If you do unrevoked forever, you won't lose root when you accept an OTA.
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The one thing i have seen is that if you root and use unrevoked forever then you can't accept OTA's either, i have seen this with alot of people including myself, not sure why, but you can download the OTA, but it will not upack, literally, as you start it just freeze's up within the first mintues, and no matter how many times you try, it won't take.
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The one thing i have seen is that if you root and use unrevoked forever then you can't accept OTA's either, i have seen this with alot of people including myself, not sure why, but you can download the OTA, but it will not upack, literally, as you start it just freeze's up within the first mintues, and no matter how many times you try, it won't take.
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Hmm... I haven't heard of that but don't doubt it.
The thing is, the devs here usually get their hands on OTAs before they are rolled out, then they make them better and package them into their ROMs. I see no reason to even care about receiving OTAs at all, tbqh
Well i was reading about it and from what I gathered up.
It tells me that if you have a custom Rom you aren't able to accept OTAs,I don't wanna manually update my phone. I don't even know how.
But I need to know of a custom recovery with disable me from getting OTAs,help?
If I should use any custom recovery or any team who should I get my root from? I have a unrooted 2.2 sense.
I need a guide and video tutorial,ha.
I'm on my girls MAC,so no windows stuff please.
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Referring to your original post here, I wouldn't root until you are fully comfortable with getting down and dirty with your phone. You say you don't want to or even know how to manually update your phone, well that is Android 101. If you aren't fully familiar with everything that rooting entails (custom recoveries, kernels, ROMs, SU permissions) then you need to keep reading. I spent weeks reading everything I could find before I rooted my phone and I suggest doing the same so you don't potentially fark things up.
Read the wiki, read through the rooting threads in development and really try and build a full understanding of what you're doing before you make the leap.
Well I've rooted my g1 way back then. But I know its not the same concept anymore,but they really never had an update it was just 1.6 so yeah.
I just want OTAs still.
Does any one know what is an Nandroid?
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I agree with _MetalHead_ . You really need to read more on rooting, ROMS (and in the process, you'll learn about Nandroid!) before proceeding. I also spent weeks reading and then I didn't go full root - just enough to get wireless tether. Then, I read some more. There are some incredibly helpful people here as well as some incredibly rude people.
While unrevoked can get you started, learn adb and get comfortable pulling and pushing apks. Get very comfortable with Nandroid because it's going to save you.
My lessons learned are 1) NEVER accept an OTA update because it can take devs a long while to gain root, and 2) be patient and NEVER pull the battery while the Evo is doing something - like updating.
I use apk files already and unrooted.
And thank you very helpful.
PLEASE someone tell me what Nandroid is.
And sites where I can learn about rooting all together.
What do I need to look for?
Sent from my HTC EVO
A nandroid backup can be done from the recovery screen and it essentially backs up your phone EXACTLY as it is when you run it. So if you want to change something, you nandroid backup (which includes contacts, themes, settings, everything) and if your change doesn't work out, you can boot into recovery and restore your nandroid backup.
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The one thing i have seen is that if you root and use unrevoked forever then you can't accept OTA's either, i have seen this with alot of people including myself, not sure why, but you can download the OTA, but it will not upack, literally, as you start it just freeze's up within the first mintues, and no matter how many times you try, it won't take.
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Just did a little research. The reason why the updates won't take is because of the custom recovery. You need to flash a stock recovery in order to accept updates. It's on Unrevoked's website.
I use apk files already and unrooted.
And thank you very helpful.
PLEASE someone tell me what Nandroid is.
And sites where I can learn about rooting all together.
What do I need to look for?
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Google is your friend. Nandroid is a way to backup and restore your phone.
I already posted the link to the wiki, that is the first place you should start. Next, read through a lot of rooting threads in the development forum here on xda. If you still have questions use the forum's search tool and use google. You gotta do the legwork.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Nandroid+Backup
this should help... teach a man to fish...
Please Please someone help me! First off, i apologize if this is in the wrong forum but i figured it would be the best place to get help. I just got an EVO a couple of weeks ago (came from an iPhone 4). I understand that root is almost like jailbreaking. I'm trying to update my phone with a new rom but evidently it can't be done without being rooted. I've searched and searched to be able to find a way to root the new sprint update 3.70.651.1 but i just cant find it! can some one PLEASE HELP! I've tried unrevoked 3 but to no luck...
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Please Please someone help me! First off, i apologize if this is in the wrong forum but i figured it would be the best place to get help.
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The best place to get help is in the correct forum. There are lots of grumpy people here who would take the time to bust on you for posting in the wrong section, tell you to use the search button or post a link to lmgtfy.com.
Fortunately I'm still noob enough not to do that. Take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448 and see if that helps you.
This one is also a good one to try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
You gots to know what you are doing. Read thoroughly!
i would for sure use the one suggested by atapia984. it is a little harder, but it is a lot less risky in the long run. also, rooting is not too much like jailbreaking, mostly because you can do everything you can with a jailbroken iphone on an evo without any hacking at all. rooting lets you actually replace the phone's system (and other partitions) with custom roms made by the talented devs here at the xda. you also have total control over hardware of the phone. if you are really stuck on the root tutorial, i might be able to help you out, or even give you a walkthrough if you are too afraid of nuking your precious evo.
Sorry Folks, I'm new to this site/forum, I would like to upgrade my HTC Desire HD to the 4.0 update, which I read/watched is working well. My problem is I'm fairly handy with my phone and somewhat with computers. But I don't see/understand how to actually go about that. I thought I saw somewhere, that I am to factory reset my phone, I can handle that, but I guess what I don't understand, is how I actually get the update ONTO the phone. Do I just go this website and clink on a link from my phone and it will take over? If so, which one, I see links all over the place. Should I remove my memory card? I'm assuming this site is for really phone, computer savy people. I just want to try the update. Would be happy to donate to the site, once I get it going. Can someone please help me. Thanks for everyone's time of reading this. Sorry for my ignorance.
Cheers.
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Sorry Folks, I'm new to this site/forum, I would like to upgrade my HTC Desire HD to the 4.0 update, which I read/watched is working well. My problem is I'm fairly handy with my phone and somewhat with computers. But I don't see/understand how to actually go about that. I thought I saw somewhere, that I am to factory reset my phone, I can handle that, but I guess what I don't understand, is how I actually get the update ONTO the phone. Do I just go this website and clink on a link from my phone and it will take over? If so, which one, I see links all over the place. Should I remove my memory card? I'm assuming this site is for really phone, computer savy people. I just want to try the update. Would be happy to donate to the site, once I get it going. Can someone please help me. Thanks for everyone's time of reading this. Sorry for my ignorance.
Cheers.
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Before screwing your phone read this guide carefully Post #7 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824379)
There are also lots of interesting stuff in there so read, read and read.
Hi, its a little more complicated than you suggest in your post.
First you will need to disable the security on your device (known as s-off) and flash a custom recovery.
You need to download the rom you wish to install and save it to your sd card. See here for a list of custom roms, there is a section for Android 4.0:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610483
Boot the phone into recovery, wipe you phone data and factory reset then install the rom.
You can use this to unlock the phone and flash clockworkmod recovery:
http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=74
Do loads of searching this forum and googling so you fully understand the process as there is a chance of bricking your phone if it goes wrong. If you do your homework, are methodical and computer savy as you mentioned you should be fine.
Good luck!
Thanks, But...think I'm screwed.
Thanks Guys for your help, but I think this is way beyond me. Its not that I'm lazy, but I can't see myself reading tons of posts and researching for days to do this. I'm having a hard time even finding relevant info that pertains to what I'm trying to do, links and stuff everywhere. Doesn't seem like a lot to ask for to have a step by step guide. You know what I mean ie: Step 1, Factory Reset, Step 2, download this file Step 3. Run it etc... Oh well, I will just suffer with this phone, and probably get stung getting out of my contract early and get a Samsung G3 or something. I had thought this was as easy as factory resetting my phone, downloading a thing or two and then just running it. Too bad there wasn't a store or place I could take this to, to get it done properly by people in the know. Would gladly pay to have this done.
Thanks.
Everything you need is in the link and guide glevitan gave you. But you do need to read. If you don't want to, the rooting and flashing isn't for you.
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Hi,
First, consider I am a beginner so I do not know the keywords you use. (like brick-unbrick-cm10-flash-rom-debugg-recovery mode...)
I want to benefit from my phone.
1- By rooting it. Please tell me what is the latest/tested/safest/compatible method to do so.
2- By having IF possible the latest android version after the latest/official update that is the 4.0.4 for my phone.
I really want a good guide that won't give me almost any errors because I will not know how to deal with them and if putting the latest android version will do so, I won't do it. But my main concern is rooting it.
[Edit]I did some research since I still got no replies so I found there is the Bin4ry method. Is this the one for me?
Thanks for a detailed answer for a beginner.
Your website is great
(I already created a topic before but I was given 2-3 different methods so I didn't know which one to choose so I hope this time you can help)
About my phone:
I have an LG Nitro HD P930 bought from the USA so they wrote on it at&t and updated with the LG tool to ICS 4.0.4.
Baseband version : APQ8060/MDM9200.
Kernel version : 3.0.8-perf
Build number : IMM76D
Software version : LG-P930-V20c-JUN-25-2012
Forum Rules
Specifically.. Rule #1 & 5
Does no one read stickies?
I really want you to take a look at the XDA Mantra.. I couldn't put it better myself:
I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.
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When I first got here from the Sony Ericsson dev forums of my previous phone (w810i) I knew absolutely nothing about android, or any smart phones.. However, I've been doing web/gfx design & coding for many years and I know how to learn fast. That being said, I didn't feel it necessary to make one thread and before I knew it I had rooted, and flashed a custom recov/ROM within 24 hours. Now yes, I had my share of problems but I was actually quite well versed because of it..
The moral is that you'd be answering the same question asked by the next guy if you did the same thing. Trial and error is how humans learn.
First, if you are a beginner as you said, what is the reason you think you need root? Most users probably don't even need it.
Second, and im sure this is going to be your next thread; you have official ICS which means locked boot loader. In layman's terms, no roms can be flashed without unbricking.
Either way, there's literally 5 or 6 rooting guides.. Did you even try?
This community frowns on people who continuously ask the same questions especially when the answer is on the front page of that very forum... It gets very frustrating to see the same question asked day after day by people who aren't even willing to try. And the fact that you've already asked once and now felt it necessary to make a whole new thread to do it again tells me rooting and modding isn't for you.
There's literally no negative result from a failed root attempt.. However, succeeding will void your warranty, and if you don't know how to find resources on your own you'll probably end up with a bricked phone (won't boot and/or worse... )
Questions are fine, not bothering to do any research or trial/error is not.
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Judging by your +Thanks I take it you see what I'm saying, however looking back I just want to add that I'm not trying to make you look stupid or single you out.. and I apologize if it came off that way.
To answer your question better: typically the latest guide with the most recent replies is the one people are using. Just open the thread and read the last few pages to see if anyone has linked a newer guide or better method.
Afterward I'm assuming you'll want to try jb at some time which will mean you'll have to unbrick. There's a newer unbrick guide that is specifically designed to help with people who've flashed the official ICS and licked their bootloader. I suggest that one. Too hard to link on the fly so you'll have to do some recon
Good luck and thanks for taking the time to read my thoughts.
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First, thanks for replying.
First, I am not the kind of person you are talking about. In fact, I feel sad for creating this thread now after your reply.
I want to learn but I find it hard to find the resources. Give me a good source of 10 pages and I am ready to read it to learn.
For example now, I saw different methods one of them sparkyroot one of them the bin4ry method and others but I don't know with which one should I proceed with. I don't know which one is compatible with my phone. I don't know if any user having my phone is facing problems after rooting since every popular thread have a minimum of 200 pages.
I posted this thread because I am scared of "trying" like you said and making an error while rooting and having my phone bricked and it is not a simple error I will get but a major one since I am modifying the root of my phone so I do care if my phone will face any error. I don't want to pay for a new phone or searching for someone to repair it.
I am still 16 years old, trying to learn, but it is so hard for me to find the tools on Android, none of my friends know anything about these stuffs and there are no tech guys in my place if I have questions. In two years I will be in university studying in CCE and this is to show you I like the programming stuffs but I need help starting. I do like exploring and learning like I do on my laptop and on my Ipad but the guides here are harder to find. When I first wanted to jailbreak my Ipad, I 've read a lot of step by step guides and found redmondpie.com which gives answers and guides to almost everything but I don't know where to start for Android since there are tons of models, forums, threads, methods etc.
As I said in the title, I want to make the max out of my phone so I want to be able to have the latest updates since the last one is ICS, getting rid of the useless apps, managing the startup apps, adding the coolest and most useful tweaks like I try to do on my jailbroken Ipad. To sum up, doing EVERYTHING none of the people around me know how to do and being able to have kind of a unique phone full of nice tweaks.
I hope you really understood what type of person I am.
So back to my problem,
I didn't know "There's literally no negative result from a failed root attempt".
I read that the sparkyroot uses an "old exploit"
I read that that the bin4ry method is new but I didn't find my model listed in it, in fact, I was more confused when I new there are models of my models like when I read v20c and v20e etc so I didn't know if I will have my phone bricked while using a bad method.
I don't know which ROMs are compatible with my device and my main problem is : I can't find answers for MY device since there are tons of guides and devices on Android unlike on IOS where you find the same guides, problems and solutions (I am not saying IOS is better in fact I like Android for its open OS based on Linux if I read well).
So I came here searching for not only the answers but the latest answers in which errors are fixed and which will not create problems with my device.
I knew XDA is one of the best communities for Android users but I can't seem to find easy guides for beginning and developing my knowledge.
I thanked your answer because you took time replying me but I need any help for starting. For example I found here a really good explanation of ROM http://droidlessons.com/what-are-roms-for-android/ and I really liked the "What kind of benefits can a custom ROM give me?" but I am scared of "2. Custom ROMs may have bugs that cause your device to have issues" and this is why I am posting this thread to know more of ROMs particular to my model version, and it is not as simple as that to find answers for my phone's questions I mentionned on the thread.
Proceeding
Yes.. I also don't like the people who want the answer directly without caring about all the effort the dev made and what they are really doing so I understand why you first posted your reply.
I will not do anything before wednesday (I have exams :s )
But first if I want to root, the latest method is the bin4ry one if I searched well.
I ve read about superoneclick http://androidjinn.com/how-to-root-lg-nitro-hd-the-easy-way.html but I told the guy who posted the thread about my first thread I posted on XDA so he told me to try the sparkyroot method here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044645 but then someone told me "TPSparkyRoot is based on an old exploit and works on v18f(4.0.3) only. Thats just for rooting if you want to install CWM, you mush "unbrick" your phone."
So, should I proceed with the bin4ry method? (I am scared having errors as I told you so is this the one I should try?)
After having my phone rooted, to have JB on it, you told me I should unbrick it (did I understand you well?) To do this, I've read "Just rooting, you shouldn't lose your data.... following an unbrick guide on the other hand, you will." does this mean like a "format" for my android? I do not mind doing so because in that way I will have a new phone wiped from all the things I installed on it.
So, I should backup all of my data first.
But which unbrick guide should I follow, the latest one on the LG Nitro HD section is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597488
So again the same question, is this the one for me? Should I do it after rooting my phone? And do you know known bugs?
I am detailing you my answer to show you I am searching but I still need help.
Thanks.
Wow.. Loaded question.
Truepeace said:
First, I am not the kind of person you are talking about. In fact, I feel sad for creating this thread now after your reply.
I want to learn but I find it hard to find the resources. Give me a good source of 10 pages and I am ready to read it to learn.
For example now, I saw different methods one of them sparkyroot one of them the bin4ry method and others but I don't know with which one should I proceed with. I don't know which one is compatible with my phone. I don't know if any user having my phone is facing problems after rooting since every popular thread have a minimum of 200 pages.
I posted this thread because I am scared of "trying" like you said and making an error while rooting and having my phone bricked and it is not a simple error I will get but a major one since I am modifying the root of my phone so I do care if my phone will face any error. I don't want to pay for a new phone or searching for someone to repair it.
I am still 16 years old, trying to learn, but it is so hard for me to find the tools on Android, none of my friends know anything about these stuffs and there are no tech guys in my place if I have questions. In two years I will be in university studying in CCE and this is to show you I like the programming stuffs but I need help starting. I do like exploring and learning like I do on my laptop and on my Ipad but the guides here are harder to find. When I first wanted to jailbreak my Ipad, I 've read a lot of step by step guides and found redmondpie.com which gives answers and guides to almost everything but I don't know where to start for Android since there are tons of models, forums, threads, methods etc.
As I said in the title, I want to make the max out of my phone so I want to be able to have the latest updates since the last one is ICS, getting rid of the useless apps, managing the startup apps, adding the coolest and most useful tweaks like I try to do on my jailbroken Ipad. To sum up, doing EVERYTHING none of the people around me know how to do and being able to have kind of a unique phone full of nice tweaks.
I hope you really understood what type of person I am.
So back to my problem,
I didn't know "There's literally no negative result from a failed root attempt".
I read that the sparkyroot uses an "old exploit"
I read that that the bin4ry method is new but I didn't find my model listed in it, in fact, I was more confused when I new there are models of my models like when I read v20c and v20e etc so I didn't know if I will have my phone bricked while using a bad method.
I don't know which ROMs are compatible with my device and my main problem is : I can't find answers for MY device since there are tons of guides and devices on Android unlike on IOS where you find the same guides, problems and solutions (I am not saying IOS is better in fact I like Android for its open OS based on Linux if I read well).
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Not sure exactly what you mean.. If you searched you'd have found on the very first page of this very sub-forum:
Root LG Nitro HD on ICS
In post # 4 you can see that the method linked worked.. and this was posted this month.. Not sure why you have so much trouble finding this info.. It's right here, and if you notice; if that fellow had bothered to search, he'd have found the same info that the first response provided. It's literally all right here. XDA is usually the one-stop-shop for all required info and resources, so long as you're willing to look.
Nevertheless, I've tried both of these methods, and both worked first try for me. However, you usually only have to do this once, and Ive done it both on GB when I first got it, and then again on ics 4.0.4 when I updated like a moron without reading... This was a great example of a "lesson learned" for me.. and trust me, I am better for it.
I don't understand what you're "scared" of... Basically, as long as you follow the guides properly you'll never have a problem..
However, if you are flashing custom ports, or beta release roms that are known to be unstable (it will always say); then your worst "fear" would be having to follow the Unbrick Guide, which shouldn't take more than 30-45 mins tops after the first run-through in which you obtain all the required files. Unless you do something stupid -- usually caused by not following/reading guides properly.. again, most of the time human-error is the only culprit of bricks -- your phone will never be "broken beyond repair."
Warnings are typically clearly stated -- I can't stress this enough: READ READ READ (replies, comments, reports, bugs.. all listed in the same thread as the guide itself).
So I came here searching for not only the answers but the latest answers in which errors are fixed and which will not create problems with my device.
I knew XDA is one of the best communities for Android users but I can't seem to find easy guides for beginning and developing my knowledge.
I thanked your answer because you took time replying me but I need any help for starting. For example I found here a really good explanation of ROM http://droidlessons.com/what-are-roms-for-android/ and I really liked the "What kind of benefits can a custom ROM give me?" but I am scared of "2. Custom ROMs may have bugs that cause your device to have issues" and this is why I am posting this thread to know more of ROMs particular to my model version, and it is not as simple as that to find answers for my phone's questions I mentionned on the thread.
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Again, "bugs" and "issues" usually means random reboots, or force closing of apps... Nothing serious. Flashing CM nightly (trusted dev) is very safe IMO.. Flashing custom ports is probably the most risky. but again, nothing an unbrick cant fix in 45 mins or so.
Truepeace said:
Yes.. I also don't like the people who want the answer directly without caring about all the effort the dev made and what they are really doing so I understand why you first posted your reply.
I will not do anything before wednesday (I have exams :s )
But first if I want to root, the latest method is the bin4ry one if I searched well.
I ve read about superoneclick http://androidjinn.com/how-to-root-lg-nitro-hd-the-easy-way.html but I told the guy who posted the thread about my first thread I posted on XDA so he told me to try the sparkyroot method here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044645 but then someone told me "TPSparkyRoot is based on an old exploit and works on v18f(4.0.3) only. Thats just for rooting if you want to install CWM, you mush "unbrick" your phone."
So, should I proceed with the bin4ry method? (I am scared having errors as I told you so is this the one I should try?)
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It was more a general look at the rules. Not specifically saying you're like that, I just think he worded it well so I thought I'd share.
Anyways, from my experience as long as you have the drivers properly installed and don't let your antivirus delete the zergrush or other exploit file (because it will), superoneclick has always worked first try for me. However some people report having to try multiple times so just keep trying.
As I said, all rooting guides use pretty much the same exact tools, just worded differently or a different app that does the same thing.
After having my phone rooted, to have JB on it, you told me I should unbrick it (did I understand you well?) To do this, I've read "Just rooting, you shouldn't lose your data.... following an unbrick guide on the other hand, you will." does this mean like a "format" for my android? I do not mind doing so because in that way I will have a new phone wiped from all the things I installed on it.
So, I should backup all of my data first.
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Yes, the official ICS update locks the bootloader so you have to follow the same guide you would if you had "bricked" your phone.
Flashing any ROMs or doing pretty much any modding requires a full wipe. Simply back up your data (I suggest helium).
After you flash a custom recovery (CWM), you can do what's known as a Nandroid backup, which (basically) backs up every last detail of your current running ROM including settings for all installed apps, games, etc. as well as settings for the OS itself, wifi info, etc. -- Let me put it this way, if you restore a nandroid backup, it's as if you never wiped/flashed anything else. This is the best benefit of flashing a custom recov. (IMO) besides flashing roms of course.
Rooting is very non-intrusive.. Unless you have apps that require root, you wouldn't even notice. There's no risk of errors or bricked via root itself, however.. Root means "admin" or "full" access. You will have access to things that are normally hidden/protected from accidental changes.. Similar to the control panel in windows.
As with any computer, If you go deleting things or editing important options like a moron after obtaining root then yes, you will have problems. That's the whole point of why phones don't come with root access.. People who aren't smart enough to figure it out most likely aren't smart enough to handle it.. (Ie. General public).
But which unbrick guide should I follow, the latest one on the LG Nitro HD section is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597488
So again the same question, is this the one for me? Should I do it after rooting my phone? And do you know known bugs?
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I'm not sure what you mean by bugs.. It works 100%. Its user error that is the problem.
Google "how to unlock p930 bootloader".. Its clear as day
I am detailing you my answer to show you I am searching but I still need help.
Thanks.
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That's the point.. Read the mantra more closely. The whole point is to try.. You learn by trying.. If you're afraid to get a little dirty sometimes, then this stuff probably isn't for you.
One last tip: Read guides fully before starting and make sure all files are still available/alive. This ensures you don't get stuck half way through. You'll thank me later.
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PS: mattman was kind enough to make an updated repo for us.. It's on this same sub-forum:
[May 05, 2013] Repository
This contains an updated list of almost all important resources. Just read the guide you're interested in, and like I already said; go to the last page and read every post from the last 3-5 pages if necessary. Most of the time, this is where the latest bugs, and newest updated info is located in any thread.. Its very simple. Did you read my post or just skim through it?
PPS: HO!NO! has been kind enough to offer a mirror of all the required files for unbricking, as well as many other useful resources. If you look around you'll find everything you need right here.
Heres the guide you want for rooting official ICS:
Note: Disregard the word "Bell" in the title.. It'd be the same for any provider, so long as you're running a p930 (even then, it probably works for the 935, 936, and su640, etc.)
[GUIDE] How to ROOT Bell official v20e firmware
Here's the guide you want to use for both rooting, and unlocking bootloader if you're going to want to flash a custom recovery and/or roms:
Note: I highly recommend.. Clockworkmod Recovery is extremely useful, and nothing beats CM10.1 RC2 + Wind Kernel 2.01 as far as battery life is concerned, and the features JB offers over ICS are simply amazing.. (as long as bluetooth isn't a deal-breaker for you -- this should be fixed soon though.. we're getting very close.)
[GUIDE] Rooting and Unbricking p930/p935/p936
FYI: I found all of this info in a matter of seconds.. This is why it's so frustrating when people ask this every day.. lmao
Good luck.
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