Dear All
I am a NOOB. Got my HTC Desire a few weeks ago and it didn't take long to hit the stupid app installation limit of internal memory. Now every time I want to install an app I have to remove an old one. Not pretty.
My question is simple:
1) What is the SAFEST, BEST way to root an Orange-branded HTC Desire?
2) What is the easiest way to enable app installation on memory card and is it possible without rooting?
3) What is the best way to back up the phone before rooting (since it presumably factory resets the phone)
4) Is there a good ROM that has HTC Sense AND Froyo with ALL hardware and software features working?
I have trawled the net and I know answers to these questions are floating all around, I just want the DEFINITIVE version.
Thanks in advance!I hope someone will answer.
Answer:
1. your answer can be found here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
2. only possible with root or wait for offical froyo
3. Just back up your sd card. You can go back using RUU
4. I am using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726300
no problem so far.
Once you root, you wont regret
Search button is your friend. I got all my information with search button. So many helpful threads already
I recommend you my ROM which is in the process of uploading.
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729716
It looks like HTC Sense Android 2.2 ROM but with percent battery (can be reverted to stock battery). It also has the option of installing ExpressoBar mod which makes the Sense UI look better. It has A2SD+ which lets you install apps to SD by default. It also has access to ALL Android apps in the market. If you don't like it you can simply change it to another Sense Android 2.2 ROM.
Thanks very much guys. Actually search button is too good since it also confuses. I sincerely appreciate the help. Lolly your rom sounds amazing. Guess I will be giving it a shot. Just one more question. How about unrevoked
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Hi All,
long time reader, 1st time poster,
i have switched from the nexus to the desire, and i have seen lots and lots of diffrent roms for the desire, so i was wondering if i may ask your assistance in locating the best one?
which rom most people prefer ?
what advantages does X rom have over X rom ?
i currently have a desire running 2.2 froyo if there is anyone else switching which could suggest a good switch ?
Hi,
I'm fairly new to this whole rooting business myself and certainly not an expert on advising which is is the 'best'. A lot would depend on your needs and preferences. For my use, however, I found the ROM at :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
to be very stable and to my liking. It is virtually the same as an OTA update of Froyo, except it is rooted and has some miner modifications.
Read a lot and try different Roms; I'm sure you'll find one to your liking and needs.
Hi Mag,
Thanks for your advice, it sounds like a nice easy starting mod,
btw how did you root the phone to start with ?
i have tried the current REVOked client but that seems to fail each time.
so i was debating sitting back and waiting for REVOkeds new 3.2.1 client to be released for download.
Here is what I did with my very limited knowlage about rooting:
1. I made my working sd card into a 'gold card'. Not sure if that was necessary or not, but it couldn't hurt.
2. I downgraded from OTA froyo to the 2.1 version.
3. Then rooted my phone using Unrevoked3.
After that I was able to update to any rom using clockworks recovery only.
Everything went very smoothly for me without any hickups.
You can find all the needed details about the individual procedures above, on this great site. Search and you will find .
Hope this is of some help.
Mag
PS.: Unrevoked at, http://unrevoked.com/#inc, is suposedly working on a new version that is able to root Froyo without having to dowgrade to 2.1 first.
Unrevoked's rooting solution is already out for the Desire FYI
Here is the link for it
http://unrevoked.com/
Be advised that they have removed the current version because it had some issues with the Evo 4G but the older 3.2 is still up and flawless for the Desire.
Unrevoked Desire
Sadly I had major driver issues with my current PC and couldnt root my phone as of yet.. but will do it in a couple of days when i get my new PC So I cant provide feedback as of yet... But the Wiki page of Unrevoked has pretty much everything covered up for you
Hope I helped a little
yeah the current version means you need to downgrade to 2.1. but id rather go straight into rooting, than mess about with downgrading 1st.
I bought a Desire today and without checking anything (as I am new to all this) I have bought one with OpenDesire already installed!
I would really like to restore it back to Sense UI (factory default) so that i can learn how to use it etc...
1, I have no Idea if it was branded/locked before purchase
2, I am fairly useful with a PC but android is VERY new to me so baby steps please
Thank you!!
As it's already rooted you should find it fairly easy to install a new custom rom that is close to stock. Have a look in the development forum and see what rom you fancy and give it a go.
Have a wee read about how to flash a rom, use a custom recovery, and partition your SD card. It's daunting to read, but really very easy once you have an idea
do i not need a "goldcard" to do that?
No. A goldcard is only needed if you want to install an official untouched HTC rom. As things are right now with your phone your good to go!
Yeah the "hard" part is done.. lol
Root the phone, there are loots of roms with sense, i used pinky1.8 fast stable had no problems, very easy to install,
Install an app called rom manager, u can find it for free in the market, save your sdcard, and with rm, partition the sdcard with the standard options, dw the rom and install it ;-)
Recomend a wipe data when asked
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Could just ask the seller where it was from and then get the RUU and flash back to stock
Can i still make a goldcard?
Yes, so long as the phone is running you can make a gold card. I'd first find out where the Desire was purchased, though, so you at least know what ROM to revert to should you ever need to return it for repair...
which custom rom do you think would be closest to stock for me?
Quick look in the Dev forum would've done you a favour...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
But please try and find out what the Desire originally came with. It'll help in the long run...
what is "Radio"
I'm really struggling here as i don't know what he did already to get oipendesire on it??
If you don't know what you're doing then don't try anything at present. Do this instead:
1. Create a gold card (unless you do what I've suggested and try and find out what was on the Desire originally - contact the person you bought it off of)
2. Follow this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256. This will revert you back to stock until you have learnt enough to venture into flashing a custom ROM. Chances are the stock ROM will do what you want it to do without issues
Hi,
I am looking for Gingerbread update and HTC sense 3.0. Does anyone know when is the official release coming out.
If not official, can I install the one ported by moderators in this form by myself. How do I go ahead with it. From rooting to installing.
After the update will all my applications downloaded and contacts and sms be deleted. If so how can I backup those data.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
It's a lot of good instructions in this forum to read. Read the posts about Rooting, getting s-off and eng s-off in the developer forum. You will also find good instructions in how to flash a radio.
I was completely lost my self, but after spending a couple of days in reading and testing I got it to work.
And yes, you will loose all your data, but you can backup your settings, apps etc. with either Myback up pro or titanium bakcup from marked. You can export your contacts to your SD card from the contact list, just hit meny and import/export.
Sense 3.0 is only in beta even in custom roms, and I dont think HTC has intended it to be integrated with the DHD. But it's a beta version you can flash after you are done with the rooting process.
Good luck
I would recommend you to invest a few days reading these threads. That's how I start anyway.
In order to root and flash new rom, you need to roughly know the following
1) How to root (Visionary thread)
2) Radio S-Off
3) Eng-S Off
4) Rom Manager & ClockWorkMod
I believe after you are well acquainted with all the above, you will be able to flash any rom your heart desire Sense 3.0 might also be compatible with DHD by then
Before all jump on me being noob, yes I watched video and read rules. I hope I post this thread in place where it belongs.
I am not native English speaker so please don't throw me in fire if you see some writing errors.
I have always been Nokia user, from 1995 to this day, and now I got HTC Desire, it is old but I got it for free, it was in the box almost 1-2 years (never used) and that person discovered it before a month and gave it to me because he don't need it.
This thing is along first editions by the look of it, Android 2.1 Eclair, Amoled
I have updated it to latest official update (as I can remember 2.2.2)
I got spare MicroSD card (8GB class 10) and it working good with it (looks better then 4GB one I got with phone)
I also added some aps etc..memory was soon filled..I saw on Google that its common problem.
Now after some intro..lets go to my questions..
1. My goal is to root device and put best/stable rom with HTC Sense thing, mostly for additional memory on SD and as I did understand better control and speed of my phone - is that correct?
2. Is it possible to back-up EVERYTHING on my phone, store it to PC, and return it if I am not happy with new ROM, so I can continue to use it exactly where I left it with all my apps and file there?
3. I really don't know anything about android (some things I have read about rooting on google..) so I would need help, someone to point me at correct tutorials and rom to download. Maybe I am Android noob but I am good with PC so dont worry I will make some noob mistakes while rooting and adding new rom.
All my phone info I could find:
So its 2.2.2.
Baseband: 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27
Kernel: 2.6.32.15-gf5a401c [email protected] #1
Build no: 2.29.405.14 CL345208
Software: 2.29.405.14
Browser: Webkit 3.1
Hboot
Bravo PVT1 Ship S-ON
Hboot-0.93.0001
Microp-031d
Touchpanel-synw0101
Radio-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010
If someone have will to help I would be grateful.
try this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
pretty straight foward, next time please search before starting a new thread
and if that doesnt work, search how to root desire with revolutionary
i first started with this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
very helpful if you don't know anything about what you're doing (like you and me) ^^
the most difficult question would be, which ROM to use. you said you'd like to keep Sense.
well here is an overview of every ROM you can get for your desire:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
find out the differences between them, and then decide which one suits you best. but don't be afraid to try non-sense (haha, no pun intended ) ROMs.
now some explicit answers:
(1) yes, almost every ROM allows you to move internal storage to your SD and some even speed up your device. with some you could experience reboots now and then, but thats rather rare.
(2) yes, you can backup everything. there are two ways to do that:
a - NANDroid backup: it creates some kind of an image (like the .ISO is the image of a DVD), which can be restored, so that your phone looks the same as before.
i recommend it every time you change or update your ROM. NANDroid backups are available after you rooted and S-OFF'd your device.
b - there are many apps on the market to backup nearly every part of your user data. the most popular is Titanium Backup. it can make a copy highscores, user input like passwords, bookmarks of your browser, and so on.
contacts can usually be secured via your googlemail account.
all of those backups can and will be placed on you SD card, from where you can easily copy them to your desktop pc.
question 3 is already answered...keep an eye out for sticky threads (the ones pinned on top of every sub-forum) and you will find all the information needed.
good luck.
The easiest way to learn about android is to test it out..play with it as much as you want and about rooting use revolutionary, it's the fastest and easiest method.Also, about restoring your Rom, you can do that by backing it up in recovery, nandroid backup as they call it.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
the two guides linked in the posts 2 and 3 are quite outdated. neither even mention revolutionary.
revolutionary does not give you root. it performs s-off. root comes after flashing the superuser.zip.
@OP, i always recommend this set of guides, which explain a bit more in detail about what everything is first, so you can get an understanding of what you're doing before you do it (just as important!). the video guide is also useful to take you through the actual process.
take your time, i'm sure you'll eventually find what you want :good:
Thanks to all, I will "study" all links before proceed, Like I said I was just looking for few answers with directions of correct tutorials.
hmm..after reading all that stuff I am just confused.
Can anyone point at step-by-step tutorial of how to just make my phone have additional memory on SD card, I want to keep my official 2.2.2. ROM with all apps installed.
As I understand I need to root phone and make some linux partition on SD.
Now, I don't know how to keep apps already installed etc so thats where you guys step in with tutorials for my problem.
Few things to keep in mind:
I dont want S-OFF if not needed
I dont want to change my RADIO, ROM or whatever.
Just additional memory on SD card.
Thanks advance.
in that case you should take a look at this:
Link2SD
it's an application that allows you to move apps to your 2nd SD partition. no need to flash ROMs or anything else.
the only premise is that you need root.
i don't know if this app has any disadvantages...
but i recommend you to take a closer look at flashing ROMs anyways, because most people (including me) claim that their phone was kinda revived with a new custom ROM.
it's really worth a try. sure, there's a huge amount of reading involved, but in the end it's simpler than you think.
NewAndroidNoob said:
hmm..after reading all that stuff I am just confused.
Can anyone point at step-by-step tutorial of how to just make my phone have additional memory on SD card, I want to keep my official 2.2.2. ROM with all apps installed.
As I understand I need to root phone and make some linux partition on SD.
Now, I don't know how to keep apps already installed etc so thats where you guys step in with tutorials for my problem.
Few things to keep in mind:
I dont want S-OFF if not needed
I dont want to change my RADIO, ROM or whatever.
Just additional memory on SD card.
Thanks advance.
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first you need root to install titanium backup then, you can take complete backups of your apps, cuz installing a custom ROM will surely destroy the apps.......just take your time, you'll get it........ I took 3 Weeks like you , reading, searching and reading some more..... Then i started doing, and all things fell in place., 1 year has passed and not looking back....
Regards
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
NewAndroidNoob said:
hmm..after reading all that stuff I am just confused.
Can anyone point at step-by-step tutorial of how to just make my phone have additional memory on SD card, I want to keep my official 2.2.2. ROM with all apps installed.
As I understand I need to root phone and make some linux partition on SD.
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it does take a lot of time to understand it all, that's a good thing. many people with no experience with rooting have used the guides successfully
as above, links2sd should work. however, i was exactly the same, thinking i didn't want a custom rom, just thought i wanted more memory. but a custom rom is well worth the time when you find the right one for you. :good:
the guides will show you how to partition sd card properly (gparted or 4ext recovery)
Now, I don't know how to keep apps already installed etc so thats where you guys step in with tutorials for my problem.
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BU7CH4 said in 3rd post...use apps like titanium backup. please read what we tell you
Few things to keep in mind:
I dont want S-OFF if not needed
I dont want to change my RADIO, ROM or whatever.
Just additional memory on SD card.
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s-off is not absolutely necessary, but is much more versatile, and more useful if things go wrong in the future. revolutionary will perform s-off anyway, and is ideal for your hboot version. don't be scared of it.
upgrading radio is not absolutely necessary
So after all readings and courage building, today I have decided to run operation X (lol)
Here is what I have done for now:
1. Done many things with PC drivers and comms PC-Mobile
2. S-OFF via Revolutionary
3. Denied CUSTOM RECOVERY from Revolutionary, read somewhere that 4EXT Recovery Touch is better. (I hope I didn't do something wrong with this decision)
4. Installed 4EXT Recovery Touch - custom recovery
5. From Recovery installed Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed
Now, it looks like I have now HTC Desire with S-OFF and root.
If I understand correctly now I can install titanium backup and also do nandroid backups.
After all backups I do, then I can proceed to new custom roms, extend memory to SD etc..still I am not sure do I want do more then extend mem.. Well, with time I will probably explore new roms just for fun or whatever.
But for today I have done enough (too much stuff in short time for newbee ))
BTW for now all has gone without problem or errors.
Thank everyone on help.
This thread can now be closed.
thread wont be closed, just edit the title to [SOLVED] New HTC Desire etc
happy flashing
Sent from my HTC Desire
jmcclue said:
thread wont be closed, just edit the title to [SOLVED] New HTC Desire etc
happy flashing
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Oh, lol, habits from other forums..sorry, there, title changed :victory:
NewAndroidNoob said:
So after all readings and courage building, today I have decided to run operation X (lol)
Here is what I have done for now:
1. Done many things with PC drivers and comms PC-Mobile
2. S-OFF via Revolutionary
3. Denied CUSTOM RECOVERY from Revolutionary, read somewhere that 4EXT Recovery Touch is better. (I hope I didn't do something wrong with this decision)
4. Installed 4EXT Recovery Touch - custom recovery
5. From Recovery installed Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed
Now, it looks like I have now HTC Desire with S-OFF and root.
If I understand correctly now I can install titanium backup and also do nandroid backups.
After all backups I do, then I can proceed to new custom roms, extend memory to SD etc..still I am not sure do I want do more then extend mem.. Well, with time I will probably explore new roms just for fun or whatever.
But for today I have done enough (too much stuff in short time for newbee ))
BTW for now all has gone without problem or errors.
Thank everyone on help.
This thread can now be closed.
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Why too much? On my first day i corrupted my nand guess it couldnt hold out on so much flashing in one day.. ) anyway have fun with your new toy
Hi all, can somebody give me some advice to help out a friend.
My housemate has an HTC Wildfire and told me it keeps saying out of storage space errors. So I had a look at it, just assuming I needed to delete some apps, remove old cache data and maybe move some apps to the SD card. On checking, he has 7MB space free, so I thought he must have loads of apps installed, but there's only about 7?! The internal storage was so low and yet the SD card storage was hardly used at all, and there was also no option to move apps to the SD card. Didn't know these phones had so little storage space (I almost got one of these before my x10 3 years ago!)
I'm guessing the best thing to do is root the phone and clear out junk apps etc using Titanium Backup. I've done rooting and using of custom ROMs before on my old Xperia X10, but never on any other phone so is there an easy way to do it on an HTC Wildfire? As I am aware the process will be different. Also what sort of custom ROMs were developed for the Wildfire? Just upto Gingerbread or ICS and beyond, and if the latter, do they run better than GB?
Any help would be appreciated
Cheers
Just to be clear Your friend has HTC Wildfire S and not HTC WILDFIRE...If he has Wildfire S then follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1878031
Some Wildfire S models manufactured in 2012 gave some problems regarding recovery..If above mentioned guide fails and you can't get to recovery then follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997465...
If the Wildfire S is manufactured in 2012 and you had to follow the second guide then you can't install ROMs based on CYANOGENMOD... You can only install ROMs based on stock ROM...
Thanks ever so much for the reply - I will have a look through those links. I did wonder whether he had the Wildfire or Wildfire S (before yesterday I had no idea there were two models) but then I guessed it would be the S as he is on 2.3.5 and yet the standard Wildfire shipped with 2.1 or 2.2 I believe.
Is there a 'safe list' of bloatware apps etc that can be removed from the Wildfire S with Titanium once it has been rooted?
Many thanks
alex_ncfc said:
Thanks ever so much for the reply - I will have a look through those links. I did wonder whether he had the Wildfire or Wildfire S (before yesterday I had no idea there were two models) but then I guessed it would be the S as he is on 2.3.5 and yet the standard Wildfire shipped with 2.1 or 2.2 I believe.
Is there a 'safe list' of bloatware apps etc that can be removed from the Wildfire S with Titanium once it has been rooted?
Many thanks
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I don't know about safe list.. but there are some ROMs with removed bloatware like Kimsmod supreme,Wildchild etc.. and also 3.5 ROMs..
P.S. Wildfire has a trackball under screen.. and Wildfire S doesn't have trackball..
Back again. Thanks for the replies
Finally got a working USB cable for my housemate's phone. He still wants to root, and being that I have done this on my old Xperia X10, he wants me to look into it - however, on reading that tutorial you (very kindly!) provided the link for above, it seems very complicated. Is there not an easier, simpler solution, or is this the best/fastest way?
Also I keep reading about Int2Ext in these forums - is this something that allows the SD card to be partitioned and used for apps? If so, does this come built in with custom ROMs or is it something you must do manually??
Many thanks
What is happening?
Is everyone seriously replying
the man is asking a question about HTC WILDFIRE NOT WILDFIRE S
hey dude plz delete this thread and open a new thread in your forum "HTC WILDFIRE"
What are you on about? It is the Wildfire-S....
alex_ncfc said:
Back again. Thanks for the replies
Finally got a working USB cable for my housemate's phone. He still wants to root, and being that I have done this on my old Xperia X10, he wants me to look into it - however, on reading that tutorial you (very kindly!) provided the link for above, it seems very complicated. Is there not an easier, simpler solution, or is this the best/fastest way?
Also I keep reading about Int2Ext in these forums - is this something that allows the SD card to be partitioned and used for apps? If so, does this come built in with custom ROMs or is it something you must do manually??
Many thanks
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There is HTC SuperTool v3 that can root your phone.This method would be the easiest (after you have unlocked the bootloader) assuming it works but unfortunately, it didn't work for me.
INT2EXT allows you to use a partitioned section of your SD card for more storage of apps More info here. Most custom roms support the use of the INT2EXT script