Why is Android System taking up 60% of my battery?!?! - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hey folks,
i need some direction with a particular problem...
check out the attached screenshots. why is the "android system" percentage so high?? i'm still in my learning stages, so i'm not sure how i can get rid of some of the processes, which i know are seriously harping on my battery life (which is great, but it can be much better, ya know?)..
any help would be appreciated!

It's so high because you were probably using your phone for the two minutes it was unplugged. Therefore, android system took up the majority of the battery used so far (which might be next to nothing since it was only two minutes).

Get a good task manger. You can exclude apps you want running and kill ones you don't. Also, there's a lot of battery optimization in rooted roms.
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psychopsilocin said:
It's so high because you were probably using your phone for the two minutes it was unplugged. Therefore, android system took up the majority of the battery used so far (which might be next to nothing since it was only two minutes).
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well, unplugged, it's usually 30-40% anyway. that's waaaay too high, especially since i keep hearing it being 2-3% here on the forums.
dglowe343 said:
Get a good task manger. You can exclude apps you want running and kill ones you don't. Also, there's a lot of battery optimization in rooted roms.
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i don't really like to have a task manager. i'm wondering what kind of processes are useless. or maybe it's my dc rom that's letting them run?

Is it doing it all the time or just once in a while?
*This was posted from my Evo 4G*

snake411 said:
Is it doing it all the time or just once in a while?
*This was posted from my Evo 4G*
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well, right now, it's at 4%, but i haven't touched it to use it, and it's unplugged. but, yesterday, i was at work, and i only used it a few times to text, respond to emails, check twitter (cyanogen stalking lol), and check time. it was at 30-40% at those times.

im new with android operating system so this might not be the entirely correct .. from my experience once you use the phone for multitasking and not closing the applications .. thats when that happens.
it also seems to happen when your batteries critically low and u click on the battery usage prompt that comes up.. hope that helps..
*This was posted from my Evo 4G*

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android os always on 'keep awake'

Hi guys,
Got my lovely new galaxy nexus and have been absolutely loving it apart from the battery life. Its not uncommon for it to be in the red after 8 to 10 hours with only an hour or less of screen on time. Im not new to android so ive tried the usual stuff like checking sync settinga... the culprit appears to be android os. According to the battery use screen, the android os 'keep awake' time is the same as the time on battery, so about 10 hours. This seems ridiculous. Has anyone seen anything similar and what can i do about it?
When you go to battery and click Android OS - are you seeing the keep awake time here as very long? Or are you talking about the awake graph when you click the graph at the top?
This shouldn't be happening in any case. Click through all the apps on the main battery screen and see which one is awake the most. Some app must be calling some android API and keeping things awake. Worst case uninstall apps a few at a time and try to narrow it down.
If you've recently installed any new apps one of those may be misbehaving, otherwise you may need to do a factory reset to fix it.
edit: sounds like you may be seeing the same thing others are here
kam187 said:
When you go to battery and click Android OS - are you seeing the keep awake time here as very long? Or are you talking about the awake graph when you click the graph at the top?
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Its when i click android os- the keep awake is the same as the time on battery, or sometimes more. Ill double check the graph.
Its been like this since I bought it I think, but since it automatically gets the apps I had on my old phone on first boot, it could be one of them. Ive also been splashing out in the 10p sales.
So probably just factory reset and gradually reinstall things? Thanks.
Are you running stock rom ?
All stock at the moment.
xhausx - My problem doesn't seem quite the same- they're reporting a high percentage on the android os process, but for me it's more like 20% rather than 40 or so. It's more the lack of ever sleeping that's the problem I think.
I've got watchdog installed- what should I be looking for exactly?
Looking through my installed apps I realised that Flash was there even though it's not supported. I've removed that, time will tell if that was relevant!
A not for anyone else having this problem - It's early days but battery life seems better and the phone now sleeps! I removed a few items but Flash stands out as the suspect. So anyone who migrated from another device with flash installed, make sure that flash didn't end up on your nexus when it resynced apps with your google account.
I did the Google 'resync' but for some reason Flash 11 didn't transfer over. Same for Air.
Just as a comparison. My SGN has been on this charge for 1day 13 hours and my Android OS keep awake time is only 2 hours 28 minutes and I have about 45 apps installed. So if you have high keep awake time one if your apps is causing it.
I got such good battery life this run cause I wasn't using it with the screen on constantly.
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Ves said:
I did the Google 'resync' but for some reason Flash 11 didn't transfer over. Same for Air.
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Flash doesn't support ICS yet.
Ves said:
I did the Google 'resync' but for some reason Flash 11 didn't transfer over. Same for Air.
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flash isnt available for the nexus...
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/43152/flash-for-android-4-end-2011-no-flash-for-android-5
edit: hm tooooo late XD
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Flash doesn't support ICS yet.
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That I know, but wasn't aware the sync option also looked at this. First time transfer from Android phone to Android phone.
Sorry how are you running flash?
Now I'm not sure if you checked this but in the "developer options" of the settings menu there is a "stay awake mode" and even though it says "only when powered" but could it be that is checked and working all the time?
I had this problem too, and in true IT Crowd fashion, turning it off and on again sorted it out. Problem is, now I've found out GPS isn't working on my phone. Goddamn it.
Hi,
Can you explain in more detail?
Are you saying that you had this Android OS keep awake time, but not anymore?
And you fixed it by turning off the phone and on again?
Thanks
Black Mirror said:
I had this problem too, and in true IT Crowd fashion, turning it off and on again sorted it out. Problem is, now I've found out GPS isn't working on my phone. Goddamn it.
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[Q] "android System" In Battery Use..

Hello all!!
First let me say this Board is AMAZING!!!!.. This is my first post though ever so be nice! lol
I am running EC05 with ACS ICS v3, have not updated to 5.5 but thinking about it.
It seems for some reason my android system in my battery use is always at 80% no matter what.. I think that is causing some unexpected battery drain... My friend has same phone, but running acs 5.5 and his is about 35% everyday all day..
Anyone have any idea as to why its up that high and anything I can do to tone it down?
Thanks!
May I ask first, why your on froyo? The ginberbread ROMs have come a long way. Better battery life and stable.
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The way Android system is reported is different in Froyo than in Gingerbread. Compare apples to apples. Move to ACS 5.5 also and compare.
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Actually, I think ACS ICS v3 (all versions for that matter) is a EI22 based ROM. Also, on Froyo, the majority of the battery went to the display (incorrectly), so I think he is on an EI22 ROM, maybe using the EC05 modem? As for battery life, all the usual questions, poor service area? Wifi left on without being connected? What is the awake time? What is waking the phone up?
Good luck!
Edit: I say EI22 which is the official GB, but should be true for any GB ROM.
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Ah, just saw the EC05 part.
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Grab better battery stats and see what process and wakelocks are highest.
Make sure visual voicemail and gtalk (if you have them) are not running in the background. Also, go to settings>accounts>your syncd accounts and uncheck everything, then recheck only the things you cannot live without.
It also depends on how you use your phone. All apps have to use Android System like all.programs use Windows on a computer. If you use a lot of apps then your percentage would be higher than your buddy who only uses it for a few calls and texts. At the end of the day with 3-4 hours of serious use I have 66% Android system. So compare your usage with him.
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tinslwc said:
Actually, I think ACS ICS v3 (all versions for that matter) is a EI22 based ROM. Also, on Froyo, the majority of the battery went to the display (incorrectly), so I think he is on an EI22 ROM, maybe using the EC05 modem? As for battery life, all the usual questions, poor service area? Wifi left on without being connected? What is the awake time? What is waking the phone up?
Good luck!
Edit: I say EI22 which is the official GB, but should be true for any GB ROM.
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Yes I actually did have it on EI22 while on this current ROM, But for some reason my 3g went away and never returned also lost most of my signal.. I even re-flashed it still did not work, SO i went back to the EC05 modem and my 3g and signal started working perfect again, I was affraid to flash to EI22 in fear of same thing happeneing again..
kennyglass123 said:
It also depends on how you use your phone. All apps have to use Android System like all.programs use Windows on a computer. If you use a lot of apps then your percentage would be higher than your buddy who only uses it for a few calls and texts. At the end of the day with 3-4 hours of serious use I have 66% Android system. So compare your usage with him.
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I kinda thought that as well as I have aquite a few games and use different apps alot, Just seemed weird, I guess I might not have payed attention to it before, But i do now.
My firmware is nubernel-2.635_v0.0.1
Alkah0liK said:
Grab better battery stats and see what process and wakelocks are highest.
Make sure visual voicemail and gtalk (if you have them) are not running in the background. Also, go to settings>accounts>your syncd accounts and uncheck everything, then recheck only the things you cannot live without.
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gtalk has been running for a while, I use it alot though So kinda hard to keep it shut off, But i did for now see if anything changes..
Kennyglass,
I'm pretty sure "Android System" is not an android system process. It is definitely CIQ on Gingerbread. Toggle Airplane mode on and off and then go to your system "running services" tab in manage applications. If you see Android System running, tap on it and see if it isn't called "IQ Agent Service." This is CIQ and it is notorious for eating battery.
bpdfs,
Also you need to log out of apps such as Amazon Mp3, Facebook, Google +, Google Maps Lattitude, etc. If you removed your Feeds and Updates Widget from one of your screens, be sure to kill or Force Stop "SNS Service," as it can get in a "restarting" loop without the widget to keep it happy.
rando991 said:
Kennyglass,
I'm pretty sure "Android System" is not an android system process. It is definitely CIQ on Gingerbread. Toggle Airplane mode on and off and then go to your system "running services" tab in manage applications. If you see Android System running, tap on it and see if it isn't called "IQ Agent Service." This is CIQ and it is notorious for eating battery.
bpdfs,
Also you need to log out of apps such as Amazon Mp3, Facebook, Google +, Google Maps Lattitude, etc. If you removed your Feeds and Updates Widget from one of your screens, be sure to kill or Force Stop "SNS Service," as it can get in a "restarting" loop without the widget to keep it happy.
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I know about CIQ but tht was supposed to be taken care of in all versions of ACS ICS i thought???? tht is a reason i flashed that rom to begin with.
also i do not use any of those apps you are talking about.. so i know thats not an issue...
i love this board!
bpdfs said:
gtalk has been running for a while, I use it alot though So kinda hard to keep it shut off, But i did for now see if anything changes..
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Gtalk is a BIG user of resources as is any Google apps like Google + and Maps. But on GB the battery stats has better reporting of everything that goes through android systems. Before on Froyo a lot of that ended up wrongly added to Display percentage.
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rando991 said:
Kennyglass,
I'm pretty sure "Android System" is not an android system process. It is definitely CIQ on Gingerbread. Toggle Airplane mode on and off and then go to your system "running services" tab in manage applications. If you see Android System running, tap on it and see if it isn't called "IQ Agent Service." This is CIQ and it is notorious for eating battery.
bpdfs,
Also you need to log out of apps such as Amazon Mp3, Facebook, Google +, Google Maps Lattitude, etc. If you removed your Feeds and Updates Widget from one of your screens, be sure to kill or Force Stop "SNS Service," as it can get in a "restarting" loop without the widget to keep it happy.
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I have a NoCIQ ROM and if you check Android system a LOT of stuff comes up. WiMax shows up, system settings, notification bar, VPN settings, saving of settings....tons of stuff including Android systems. If you notice there is no spot on there for applications. So where do you think they end up? Every app uses phone resources to run which is under Android system. After having my phone in standby all night it is 33%. I use it for an hour or two and it goes to 66%. CIQ if you have it runs all the time attached to a lot of files as seen in the difficulty to remove those files. CIQ had to have it's umbilical cord cut to keep it from running.
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May I ask first, why your on froyo? The ginberbread ROMs have come a long way. Better battery life and stable.
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Im Not on Froyo... Im on Gingerbread
Here is what is currently showing under android system for me
preconfig
system updates
WiMAX mode change
status bar
android system
self test mode
WiMAX CT
DUN
com.samsung.Brightness
WlanTest
Tast Manager
PopupuiReceiver
Settings
Com.android.hiddenmenu
Account and Syn Settings
RilErrorNotifier
License Settings
ServiceModeAPp
com.samsung.inputeventapp
WiMAX_NETEST
com.android.samsungtest.slatetest
Bluetoothtest
settings storage
DRM content
PhoneUtil
Person
keytrace
WiMAX DM
VPN Services
Fatory Test
com.sec.android.app.lcdtest
WiMAXLineTEst
ODB Default
W_RF_AUTH
security storate
selective Reset....
I am on Legendary 2.1 and don't have the bluetooth test or slate test running. Other than that your list is typical. I started at 35% off charge this morning. Used XDA app for 45 minutes maybe and it now says 85%. This is not an issue to worry about. Battery drains can be found in Betterbatterystats, not checking useless percentages. Android system is everything on your phone. If you want it to read low, don't run anything. It will be in the 20's or 30's then and cell standby will become high.
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I am on Legendary 2.1 and don't have the bluetooth test or slate test running. Other than that your list is typical. I started at 35% off charge this morning. Used XDA app for 45 minutes maybe and it now says 85%. This is not an issue to worry about. Battery drains can be found in Betterbatterystats, not checking useless percentages. Android system is everything on your phone. If you want it to read low, don't run anything. It will be in the 20's or 30's then and cell standby will become high.
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Maybe it's because the Android System really is using that much battery. I mean, if you're not using other things very often, then I would expect the general OS to be using the majority of the battery. I do know that on CM7, the android system percentage isn't that high. It could just be an error with the way things are being reported, but too would suggest BetterBatteryStats and check things out there. That will really tell you what's going on, like spare parts did with Froyo. The spare parts app doesn't even work with GB because I think it says the way GB does and reports things is so much different than Froyo.
Either way, if you're getting good battery life, I wouldn't worry about it. If you're having serious drain, BBS will tell you what is causing it so you can fix it.
It is a leak with the lock mod. And also Samsung ****ed up their code for reporting battery.
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marcusant said:
It is a leak with the lock mod. And also Samsung ****ed up their code for reporting battery.
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What exactly do you mean???
I was going to go with your Revival, But really wanted that 4G drop down from the top.... but I love ACS, but I also know in 5.5 there is no 4g drop down.. ANother reason why I havent no upgraded to it yet...
Then what's up aosp displaying that android is like 10% even with the phone is on.... correct coding for battery?
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What app to use to find running apps?

Hey guys. What is the best app to find apps that are running and eating up battery? Yesterday my phone starting having abnormal battery drain when the screen is off. I lost 30% overnight! Yikes!
GreggoryD502 said:
Hey guys. What is the best app to find apps that are running and eating up battery? Yesterday my phone starting having abnormal battery drain when the screen is off. I lost 30% overnight! Yikes!
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Just use the stock App Manager in settings. And if battery is an issue, go to About Phone, then battery and you can see whats been using it. Hope this helped
i like ZDbox app.
don't use task manager they screw **** up more then they fix, suggestion,
Find the list of safe to remove apps and remove ones u don't need, apps lik keis, mms, gmail/email, etc are constantly running, remove and replace wirh 3rd party counterparts.
Use a rom with CIQ removed, use undervolting scripts helps with battery aswell.
I can't stress this enough, DONT USE TASK KILLERS unless u know what their actually designed for.
Think of it like a PC in this sense, if you use taskmanager and kill a load of programs, depending on what u kill, can have horrible side effects, in the sense of android, when an apps not closed properly, peices can still exist in the ram.
Those peices can have effects on that, and other programs on your phone.
Your best bet for clearing ram is a reboot.
Simple, as for seeing programs running, hold home and hit taskmanager (plz keep in mind the above)
Or simply go to SETTINGS>applications>memory use and click running tab on top right.
Hope this helps. Peace
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Just use the stock App Manager in settings. And if battery is an issue, go to About Phone, then battery and you can see whats been using it. Hope this helped
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Im thinking it has to be an app gone wild. Ive never had a battery issue with TDJ's stuff. Overnight i get maybe 5% drop over 8 or 9 hours.
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Im thinking it has to be an app gone wild. Ive never had a battery issue with TDJ's stuff. Overnight i get maybe 5% drop over 8 or 9 hours.
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Ye there's no way it should b doin that..
10pm to 5:30am my battery drops 7-10%
@OP
2 possible solutions:
1.) Above post gut it pretty good
2.) Kernels not allowing deep sleep mode, flash a new kernel
#2 seems more plausible at this point considering your OP in full.
If its abnormal battery drain screen off ur phones not enabling deep sleep.
At this point most apps are effectively "paused" or slowed down
Making the battery drain almost irrelevant, my battery dies about 1% hourly screen off
Thanks to this mode.
Apps like SetCPU etc. Can also cause this if configured incorrectly
If using a CPU. Control app, uninstall it, trust the phone enough to do
Its own thing.
I will never recommend taskmanagers or CPU utilitys, if I did, what's the point in kernel deving besides OC?
doug36 said:
Ye there's no way it should b doin that..
10pm to 5:30am my battery drops 7-10%
@OP
2 possible solutions:
1.) Above post gut it pretty good
2.) Kernels not allowing deep sleep mode, flash a new kernel
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Im going get the app that was suggested a few posts above and see whats up. Cant do that til later tonight. We cant have our cell phones at work. TDJ's kernels have been crazy good about deep sleeping. Thanks for the help guys!
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Im going get the app that was suggested a few posts above and see whats up. Cant do that til later tonight. We cant have our cell phones at work. TDJ's kernels have been crazy good about deep sleeping. Thanks for the help guys!
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Updated post should read if u have SetCPU or similar..
Mod can delete this post. Completely irrelevant to post, just givin OP another tip without new post.. xD

Insane bad battery life - high usage from "Android system"

I'm getting quite annoyed with my S3 and its piss poor battery life - currently seeing as little as 5 hours. On average, 55% of my battery goes to "Android System". I've tried a variety of battery monitors, but none can dig deep enough to determine which of the processes under Android System are sucking up all my juice. I'm on stock (rooted) and have tried to uninstall as much as I can (including the notorious Google+). Any tips on an app that can determine exactly which process is draining? I've also disabled as many Samsung apps as I can. I *did* try CM10 for a bit, but too many small things were not working right, so I nandroid'ed back to stock again.
ScottC said:
I'm getting quite annoyed with my S3 and its piss poor battery life - currently seeing as little as 5 hours. On average, 55% of my battery goes to "Android System". I've tried a variety of battery monitors, but none can dig deep enough to determine which of the processes under Android System are sucking up all my juice. I'm on stock (rooted) and have tried to uninstall as much as I can (including the notorious Google+). Any tips on an app that can determine exactly which process is draining? I've also disabled as many Samsung apps as I can. I *did* try CM10 for a bit, but too many small things were not working right, so I nandroid'ed back to stock again.
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I had this problem numerous times before. If it is Android System that is taking up battery, then its most probably a bad kernel. Your nandroid backup probably was bad. (it sucks, i know). Redownload the stock rom, flash it in odin, before starting up reboot in recovery and factory reset, then start it up. Your problem should be resolved. dont restore any apps and start fresh. Like I said it sucks but what can you do?
Hey ScottC,
Definitely doesn't sound normal. At the end of the day, I'm sitting around 10% lost to android system, 15% tops (of course this can vary on what you use and how you use it, but if your battery dies in 5 hours, certainly something is wrong). It's possible that in the process of nandroiding back, something messed up. I'd recommend a complete wipe (factory reset, wipe dalvik, etc), then test it out for a day or two. If the issue persists, you will likely want to Odin back to stock. If it still persists (highly unlikely), I'd call in for an exchange. Best of luck to you, and please let us know the results!
Thanks for the tips - to clarify, it was doing this before I ever nandroided back - but I have a feeling wiping might be the best bet (or trying out a better JB leak).
I think you may be getting the gsiff_daemon bug. Next time you have the battery start draining like that, turn on show cpu usage under developer options in settings. If you see gsiff_daemon at the top, then that's what's causing the android system battery suck.
The fix is simple go to /system/bin with a root explorer, mount r/w and rename gsiff_daemon to .Bak or delete it. This won't hurt anything. Then reboot.
There is a thread about this in QA. If you check it out keep in mind it's full of wags and speculation.
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I have the same issue. My phone was 100 percent and I've been sitting here watching the Texans game and I'm getting the worst battery life today that I have in my week or so of owning this phone. My phone is bone stock.
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I have the same issue
ibous said:
I think you may be getting the gsiff_daemon bug. Next time you have the battery start draining like that, turn on show cpu usage under developer options in settings. If you see gsiff_daemon at the top, then that's what's causing the android system battery suck.
The fix is simple go to /system/bin with a root explorer, mount r/w and rename gsiff_daemon to .Bak or delete it. This won't hurt anything. Then reboot.
There is a thread about this in QA. If you check it out keep in mind it's full of wags and speculation.
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Add another one to the list for this problem. I've had my phone since Sept. 27th (so 3 weeks?) and up until about 4 days ago it was great. Great battery life, even with all the bells and whistles turned on, and several apps that update constantly. For some reason a few days ago it started to battery drain HARD, downing to 25% of the battery life in less than 6 hours. That's with the phone sitting idle, not touching it, on wi-fi (not 4G) with excellent signal. Last night I plugged the phone in at 10% battery, did some chores, and returned some 3 hours later to find the battery at 5%. It drained while it was plugged in!
The battery drain issue seemed to start after the phone decided to have a certain level of diffuculty finding a 4G signal. I had to reboot the phone to get it to connect to the network. After that, the Android System will take anywhere from 55% to 76% of the battery drain.
I have shut off numerous programs, disabled the Samsung apps that were said to possibly be a problem, and looked for the gsiff_daemon in the CPU list (my top process is "com.android.systemui"). I searched com.android.systemui to see if I could find a fix, and all I'm really seeing is "flash a new ROM" or "Your kernal is bad, reset or reflash it." I'm running a 100% stock phone, and actually had no intention of rooting or flashing this phone yet, and I didn't want to have to factory default it. It's starting to look like that's my only option. Someone said that this bug seems to crop up out of pure chance and I think they may be right. My husband has the identical phone, bought, charged and activated the same day, and he doesn't have this problem. He's still getting the incredible battery life that I used to get.
So what's the skinny? Is my only option on this a factory reset? I've seen threads referrring to a thread dedicated to this topic, yet no links. If there's more info to be found, I'd love to read it.
This thread might as well be titled "all noobs thread". It is known widely that android system in jb leaks is a problem but of course u cant know that cuz reading and searching are two words that sound like chinese to you.
lazarat said:
This thread might as well be titled "all noobs thread". It is known widely that android system in jb leaks is a problem but of course u cant know that cuz reading and searching are two words that sound like chinese to you.
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Actually I have "searched" and "read". I wouldn't have posted had I been able to find an answer. Everything I've found has been for ROOTED/FLASHED ROMs, and I'm on stock. I don't want to root/flash this phone, I'd like to fix it without having to return it or factory default it if possible. I also mentioned that I had gone through threads and tried as many of the tips there that applied to my situation.
While I'm not nearly the level of many here, I'm also not a n00b. I've flashed, rooted and hacked many devices, I'm just trying to avoid that here. I didn't run across anything called "jb leaks" in my search, so if you'd care to be helpful and elaborate on that term, it might prove useful.
I believe this is the thread you were told about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1755180
When you checked cpu use, how did you check it? There's an option in Dev Options to Show CPU Usage and you can see real time what's running. Just fyi in case you did it differently.
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Thanks for the Link, Doc! It's much appreciated. As far as checking the CPU, I used the option under the Dev Options menu and watched it bounce about. Many different programs would take top spot, but when the phone was idling it was always com.android.systemui at the top. When it wasn't top, it was never far below.
Have you tried booting into recovery and wiping dalvik cache?
If it comes to it, before factory resetting since you want to avoid that, download the official stock FW and flash with Odin. I'm pretty sure it will keep your data and apps intact. Backup data first in case I'm remembering wrong. If that doesn't do it then factory reset may be your final option.
Check settings > Battery, and open Android System (I'm betting its at the top). This may give you a better idea of what the root cause could be, maybe...
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CorbieMessenger said:
Actually I have "searched" and "read". I wouldn't have posted had I been able to find an answer. Everything I've found has been for ROOTED/FLASHED ROMs, and I'm on stock. I don't want to root/flash this phone, I'd like to fix it without having to return it or factory default it if possible. I also mentioned that I had gone through threads and tried as many of the tips there that applied to my situation.
While I'm not nearly the level of many here, I'm also not a n00b. I've flashed, rooted and hacked many devices, I'm just trying to avoid that here. I didn't run across anything called "jb leaks" in my search, so if you'd care to be helpful and elaborate on that term, it might prove useful.
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You are not the op of this thread so i cannot comment about your problems. The first posts regard rooted devices running jb leaked roms and in the jb leaked roms threads all people talk about is android system taking a high percentage of the battery usage. So one must be really blind not to notice what is the problem and fix if there is any. There is no fix and it is kernel issue. Thats the reason why it is called leak and not official release. U can post some screenshots of ur battery usage and firmware version you are running if u want people to help u since u claim u r all stock and still android system usage is high 76%.
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I tried booting into recovery, but since I'm not a rooted user I can't clear the delvick cache. Somehow in the process of attempting booting into recovery I managed to lose my set wallpaper and most of my homescreen widgets, though the rest of my data and programs seem perfectly intact (accidentally went into a safe mode option). I did clear the cache partition in recovery, and tried another trick someone listed of pulling the battery and holding down the power key (I'll try anything at this point) and oddly it seems to be behaving better so far. Sitting on my desk it didn't discharge at all, and having just put all my widgets back it's only drained a few points. The screen is now the big spender at 39% with Cell Standby next at 12% (previously is was Android System being the hog at 50-70%). I have no idea which of the things I did actually did anything, but I think this just saved my tail.
I'm going to charge the phone normally tonight and leave it loose all day tomorrow like I usually do, and see what happens. If it starts battery draining again, I'm going to try flashing with Odin. Here's hoping I'm one of the few lucky ones where the problem simply "goes away".
Thanks again for your help!
Well that's kinda weird...good, but weird!
I've heard of people going into safe mode but its never intentional and I've never found how to do so at will.
As long as it goes back to normal though! Hope it does! Good luck!
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I know that this sounds pretty simple and you may have already tried this, but it always works like a charm for me. Try draining the battery ALL the way down until it automatically shuts off. Then keep turning it on until it won't even turn on our vibrate anymore. Plug it in and turn it on. Leave it plugged in until it's at 100% again, I do this overnight so there's no usage other than standby. Hopefully this will get your battery back in shape. Good luck!
DocHoliday77 said:
Well that's kinda weird...good, but weird!
I've heard of people going into safe mode but its never intentional and I've never found how to do so at will.
As long as it goes back to normal though! Hope it does! Good luck!
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Sometimes I wonder how I got into Safe mode.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821557
Well, It behaved for about an hour, then it started the massive drain again. Sadly I just backed a few things up and then factory defaulted it. We're leaving on a trip tomorrow, and I need it to not be a power-sucking brick. Oddly, everything that my CPU report was showing was identical to my husban'd phone, which has no issues with battery life. The Gsiff daemon never once showed up.
As far as safe mode, I held down the volume down button while I powered up the phone. It went into safe mode. Don't know if it'll work for y'all, or if it was just a fluke on my part. :>
Thank everyone for your help in trying to troubleshoot this. One of these days I'd love to have an electronic device that just worked without me having to poke around in it's guts. ;>
If its still acting up after the factory reset, your best bet is to flash the stock FW with Odin. If the factory reset didn't wipe your internal sdcard, you may need to to wipe it in recovery by using format data as well. (Factory reset should do this anyway as long as you're on stock recovery)
I've seen on some jb leaks where this would significantly help. I know your not using jb but its worth mentioning anyway.
Good luck!
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Possible ATT JB update battery drain fix - root only

I had been getting some higher battery drain with JB than I was with ICS, both were on rooted stock ATT roms. Early on I had posted that it was about the same as ICS, but after more and more use, I was starting to find that it really wasn't. I was consuming about 5-8% per hour idle and 10+ while actually using it. The idle bothered me the most because, obviously, using a phone will drain the battery
Two things have stood out as the high consumers: Media Scanner and poor signal.
To address the media scan drain, there have been suggestions to change CWM settings to backup as .tar rather than default .dup. This ONLY works if you re-do each nandroid that was a .dup as a .tar, delete the .dup backups, and clear the unused backup data through CWM. This removes the blobs folder files which will be in the thousands.
To address the poor signal drain, I flashed the UCLH9 modem (see modems thread in the development forum). Better Battery Stats is not showing any drain caused by poor signal, and this is also reflected by actual usage, the signal is simply... better.
Consumption is marginally higher than on ICS but not nearly as high as I was experiencing. If this has already been covered, my apologies for eating up server space...
Could you alternatively put a .nomedia file into the clockworkmod folder on the device? Would that prevent it from scanning that folder?
Well I'm bone stock and not rooted, I have no backups and the media is eating my battery like mad since the update. I've killed the process several times but it starts back up on its own. The only way I know to fix it will require root.
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There is a rogue app in the stock TW that is doing it. I have seen it in every 4.1.2 port. Run a de-bloat and it will go away.
Do you know what bloat exactly is causing it?
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There is a rogue app in the stock TW that is doing it. I have seen it in every 4.1.2 port. Run a de-bloat and it will go away.
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I have all the att and Samsung bloat frozen via TiBu.
Trust me, something is there. I never had the chance to figure out exactly which app it was though. I have a feeling that it may have something to do with a Samsung app.
I would suggest using OS Monitor from the Play Store. Make it show all system processes and see if you can dig deeper into it.
Edit: Also, here is my humble opinion too. People keep wanting new and better features. Well, that always comes at a cost. Just remember that. The iPhone boys are learning that the hard way too.
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Trust me, something is there. I never had the chance to figure out exactly which app it was though. I have a feeling that it may have something to do with a Samsung app.
I would suggest using OS Monitor from the Play Store. Make it show all system processes and see if you can dig deeper into it.
Edit: Also, here is my humble opinion too. People keep wanting new and better features. Well, that always comes at a cost. Just remember that. The iPhone boys are learning that the hard way too.
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I agree with that sentiment... I'm considering reverting back to ICS but the smoothness of jelly beans is too enticing.
after making these changes yesterday I got a 40% battery consumption over 9 hours with average use which IMHO is plenty.
Solution is to reboot the phone OR unmount by going into settings, storage and unmount the USB there instead of from the notification bar. I think this solution works but have not tried it myself.
rebooting whenever the os gets out of hand, or unmounting the SD card, is not a viable option IMHO.
my post was directed toward root users who have cwm installed and are experiencing the media drain because of the blob files. the modem change I tried because all the reliable jelly bean ports seem to use the H9 modem. a weak mobile signal is detrimental to battery life, as is a weak or intermittent WiFi signal.
believe me, on my rooted phone, these two changes made a real and noticeable improvement in battery life in JB. I've gone half the day today on ICS and half the day on JB. battery consumption is now within the range I had on ICS.
one the one hand, I believe that some increase in consumption is due to the "omg I has the jelly beans and I'm going to use the bejeasus out of my phone" factor. I also believe that a good number of fixes and patches are simply a placebo effect. BUT, my phone had been getting hot and tearing up the battery due to signal searching in areas where it had been fine prior to the update. heck, we have an att tower within 100 ft if my office, I typically pull 69-70mbps at work. on the k3 modem I was regularly dropping data or losing LTE. not anymore.
Un mounting then re mounting seems to have worked for me the process can now be killed!
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1% in the last hour and it wasn't idle the whole time. sent a few texts and spent a few minutes on Facebook. I'll take it...
Check you facebook mine wa at 51% I uninstalled it and re installed fixed battery drain
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Argh. k3 modem has been simply horrible. was constantly losing data though I initially thought it was the rom i was using. Is it safe to back flash from k3 to h9 or is there a certain procedure that needs to be done?
mtl171 said:
Argh. k3 modem has been simply horrible. was constantly losing data though I initially thought it was the rom i was using. Is it safe to back flash from k3 to h9 or is there a certain procedure that needs to be done?
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I used the CWM flashable zip from the thread in development. I did the typical cache/dalvik cache wipe first.
the last4 hours the phone was on my nightstand unplugged doinga sleep drain test. 0.3% per hour.
Ok I have found something running on my SGS3 that wasn't running all the time before and now its open constantly. I need to know if anyone knows if this one is safe to FC and then disable. Any help would be appreciated. I mean heck I wake up in the morning and this is running and I definitely am not using maps in my sleep.LOL anyways anyone know?
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Ok I have found something running on my SGS3 that wasn't running all the time before and now its open constantly. I need to know if anyone knows if this one is safe to FC and then disable. Any help would be appreciated. I mean heck I wake up in the morning and this is running and I definitely am not using maps in my sleep.LOL anyways anyone know?
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what is it?
OOPS! Sorry about that. MAPSserviceSamsung. I finally found the list of apps safe for disable and it is safe to disable. I'm seeing a bit of improvement in battery life. I also uninstalled facebook and reinstalled it and since doing these 2 things I'm things are getting much better.
I will have to try these. My battery is horrid. My OneX got easy 30+ hours of heavy use to a charge. My SG3 is lucky to get 8 hours. I average 10% an hour on mild use, heavy use and its as high as 15%
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OOPS! Sorry about that. MAPSserviceSamsung. I finally found the list of apps safe for disable and it is safe to disable. I'm seeing a bit of improvement in battery life. I also uninstalled facebook and reinstalled it and since doing these 2 things I'm things are getting much better.
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I'd like to see that list too if you don't mind sharing the info
I think I'm going to do a factory reset soon. Pretty sure that these drains are caused by some leftovers from ICS...

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