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Hey guys and gals,
This is my first post and i need some help. Here's the story.
I rooted my phone a few weeks ago, everything went stunningly easy, and worked great. Clockworkmod recovery was installed (by unrevoked) at this time. While driving home I broke my phone's screen and had to get a replacement phone. Asurion had a phone to me within 18 hours (my word they're fast). I slapped the 16GB SD card from my first phone in and I was off and running.
So I have my new phone with my original 16GB SD card and set it up normally again. I wanted to wait a bit and get it set prior to rooting again. Tonight I rooted the phone with Unrevoked 3.21 as I did before. It went much faster than before. I now have S-Off but clockworkmod recovery is not on my hboot screen and recovery mode doesn't work at all. Just a black screen for about 15 seconds before loading into the OS.
Have I screwed up a one click root? I've tried a few things.
I used droid-life as a guide to help me root.
Phone Stats:
Droid Incredible
Asurion replacement
OS 2.2
radio 2.15.00.07.28
kernel 2.6.32.15-gb7b01d1
build 3.21.605.1 CL231334 release-keys
Although clockworkmod recovery isn't in Hboot the reflash tool still says "Recovery Image: ClockworkMod Recovery" on the bottom. I have tried renaming the clockworkmod folder on the SD card to see if it would create a new one, or boot into clockworkmod recovery after realizing the folder is not there.
I have also tried formatting my SD card and running the reflash tool again. Again no dice, no recovery mode.
I have tried unrevoked 3.21 after every change.
What have I done? what do I do? any suggestions?
Thanks for anybody and everybody's input. I appreciate it. I would like to start flashing roms but really dont want to mess with it if I dont have a recovery option.
-MOJO
Is it a complete download of the unrevoked tool? Sounds almost like the recovery package isn't there. Try redownloading unrevoked and run it again. Do you have root and Superuser app at least? If so, try downloading and running ROM Manager and tell it to flash Clockwork again. Still no dice, try telling it to flash RA recovery. And for the record, which screen do you have?
I wish I knew
PonsAsinorem said:
And for the record, which screen do you have?
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thanks for the quick reply I will try that. Yes I have root and the superuser app.
I dont know how to tell which screen I have, but I was wondering the same thing. BoyGeniusReport says its incredibly hard to tell the difference and I haven't found were it says SLED vs AMOLED
Grrrr
PonsAsinorem said:
Is it a complete download of the unrevoked tool? Sounds almost like the recovery package isn't there. Still no dice, try telling it to flash RA recovery.
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Downloaded unrevoked 3.21 straight from unrevoked twice.
Tried the reflashing clockworkmod recovery, no dice.
Whats an RA recovery?
RandomMOJO said:
Downloaded unrevoked 3.21 straight from unrevoked twice.
Tried the reflashing clockworkmod recovery, no dice.
Whats an RA recovery?
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It's an alternate recovery. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758874
It's also the second to the last option in ROM Manager. Flash Alternate Recovery: RA_GNM Recovery v1.7.6
I actually like that one better. It was able to format my SD card correctly. I just miss the integration with ROM Manager.
Phew... It worked.
the alternate recovery worked.
now if I want to flash ROMs do I need to know anything in particular before doing so with the AMON_RA recovery tool.
I downloaded the a4d utility that I found when doing a search for AMON_RA on appbrain. It asks if I want to flash my phone to unlock my bootloader (and void my warranty, haha).
do I need to unlock my bootloader before flashing ROM's
I like the sense UI. thats all I have actually used. Is there anything better? what are suggested, STABLE, ROMs/kernels for the DInc? or should I stay "stock 2.2 rooted"?
RandomMOJO said:
the alternate recovery worked.
now if I want to flash ROMs do I need to know anything in particular before doing so with the AMON_RA recovery tool.
I downloaded the a4d utility that I found when doing a search for AMON_RA on appbrain. It asks if I want to flash my phone to unlock my bootloader (and void my warranty, haha).
do I need to unlock my bootloader before flashing ROM's
I like the sense UI. thats all I have actually used. Is there anything better? what are suggested, STABLE, ROMs/kernels for the DInc? or should I stay "stock 2.2 rooted"?
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Uncommon sense with king kernel bfs # 5 is as good or better than stock.
Btw. Hboot only shows recovery, not clockwork recovery. Did you ever try selecting recovery from hboot?
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Uncommon sense with king kernel bfs # 5 is as good or better than stock.
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and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?
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and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?
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Uncommon sense has some of it removed. Some of it you can remove yourself. It's the only rom I've donated to and had on my phone more than two days.
Just be careful if removing stuff. Some of it has other dependencies. There are guides on how to remove things safely without breaking other functionality.
Also do a backup first. I'm not sure how amon ra works, but it must be in there somewhere.
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and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?
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I used to use Virtuous 3.0.1, but I've switched over to Redemption ROM 2.0.5
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Also do a backup first. I'm not sure how amon ra works, but it must be in there somewhere.
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It is. In the main menu, just like Clockwork
So I definitely have recovery with the amon_RA 1.7.6 alternative recovery with the ROM manager. but from what I have read I can no longer use ROM manager to flash.
Now I have been searching for information/instructions on how to use AMON_RA but have come up short, at least recently written stuff. I can find a ton of information about clockworkmod which I assume is because of Unrevoked 3.21.
PonsAsinorem as you said you miss the integration of ROM manager. I really want to use ROM manager.
I read somewhere in XDA that people were having trouble using clockworkmod and ROM manager and it could be because of a corrupted cache. there were some LIMITED instructions about using ADB to fix it but I wasn't completely understanding them.
I think my problem is spawning from using my old SD card and maybe a corrupted cache. I have made a back up using Amon_RA (actually two).
Does anyone think that completely formatting my SD card (after moving my backups to my MAC) and factory restoring my phone. then reflashed using unrevoked 3.21, or reflashed clockworkmod recovery using rom manager would work to solve my problem with clockworkmod recovery?
I would have backups if it didn't work. I would just have to restore the Amon_RA backup if I screwed anything up or wanted my SD card back... Right?
Thanks for all the help so far.
MOJO
Found this and it solved the problem for me:
http://androidforums.com/incredible...ckwork-recovery-blank-screen.html#post1723460
dirtpan said:
Found this and it solved the problem for me:
http://androidforums.com/incredible...ckwork-recovery-blank-screen.html#post1723460
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Dirtpan. you're a lifesaver thanks for pointing me at this. saved clockwork for me. All this time, its because I have the new SLCD screen as opposed to the AMOLED screen.
For the record, my wife has an AMOLED screen and I an SLCD. I can see no discernible difference.
Thanks again everybody for the help.
MOJO
So I got my Evo in November. I was lucky enough to get HW003, so back in Nov, I used Unrevoked (and Forever, I think?). It looks like it all went fine, 4G has been working and I'm fully root'ed. Now I'm ready to jump over to Fresh, but I'm reading these threads about problems with Clockwork. I feel dumb, but I'm a little confused now. Is it safe for me to continue using Clockwork, as installed by Unrevoked? Or do I need to jump over to Amon Ra before I start doing anything? If that's the case, is there a best way to do that? Thanks in advance.
Baseband: 2.15.00.09.01
Software: 3.29.651.5
PRI: 1.77_003
PRL: 60671
H_BOOT: .97
You'll be fine using clockwork. The only problem with clockwork is that it occasionally doesn't clear cache and dalvik perfectly. I've been rooted and using CW for a LONG time. Trust me, it's safe
Cw is safe enough (although most probably use ar), but make sure you have at least one backup done with ar. Cw doesn't back up your wimax image. Ar does, and you may need it someday.
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ClockworkMod is not safe if you were to (accidentally) upgrade your hboot. Best to just stick with Amon_RA anyways, since it works properly.
(And to be honest, if you need ROM Manager to flash ROMs, you probably shouldn't have rooted your phone in the first place.)
Thanks guys. Looks like I may as well just move forward with Amon Ra.
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ClockworkMod is not safe if you were to (accidentally) upgrade your hboot. Best to just stick with Amon_RA anyways, since it works properly.
(And to be honest, if you need ROM Manager to flash ROMs, you probably shouldn't have rooted your phone in the first place.)
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The partitions on newer phones is the issue. You can use clockwork if you have older hardware and older camera chip. Just upgrading hboot does not change your partition sizes. I have gone from hboot 0.97 to 2.10 and back down to 0.76 with a launch day evo and partitions stayed the same.
If clockwork worked on your phone before it will also work now. If you have a newer phone with new camera chip there is a high chance that your phone has a different partition setup than the older phones and using clockwork or even regualr Amon-Ra will equally break the phone. There is only ONE version of Amon-Ra that works for these phones and the flashable zip can be found in Zikronix's root thread for hboot 2.02 and 2.10 phones.
leenypost said:
If clockwork worked on your phone before it will also work now.
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I used to agree with you, but not any more. For me, clockwork worked most of the time, but when the possibility is a bricked phone, most of the time is just not good enough. On the other hand, Amon_Ra works 100% of the time.
Frankly, Clockwork might be ok for flashing a rom, but I would never use it to flash radios or pri. As far as I am concerned it just doesn't work reliably enough to use it for anything important. So for me clockwork is pretty much useless. The only reason I keep it on my phone is that I paid five bucks for it, and it is the most convenient way to fix permissions.
For the record, I have had my 002 Evo since launch day. Rooted it using the original toast method. The first app I bought was Clockwork, which I used exclusively for about a month. After the second time a flash through clockwork went bad, I switched to Amon_Ra and have never had a bad flash since. Additionally, a nand backup through Amon_Ra backs up your RSA keys, Clockwork does not.
Ive always like Amon Ra better, only time I used Clockwork was to flash Amon Ra lol
mattfury said:
So I got my Evo in November. I was lucky enough to get HW003, so back in Nov, I used Unrevoked (and Forever, I think?). It looks like it all went fine, 4G has been working and I'm fully root'ed. Now I'm ready to jump over to Fresh, but I'm reading these threads about problems with Clockwork. I feel dumb, but I'm a little confused now. Is it safe for me to continue using Clockwork, as installed by Unrevoked? Or do I need to jump over to Amon Ra before I start doing anything? If that's the case, is there a best way to do that? Thanks in advance.
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If you want to switch to RA an easy way is to download Rom Manager from the market. There is an option in the app to flash to RA. After that, you can just uninstall Rom Manager since it only works with CW.
So I downloaded it and love it. But it won't let me access my recovery when my phone is off and I hold power and the down volume anymore. Any suggestions?
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So I downloaded it and love it. But it won't let me access my recovery when my phone is off and I hold power and the down volume anymore. Any suggestions?
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what recovery are you on?
I use clockwork. What happened was I thought I used mybackup pro to download all the apps but I think I just backed up the data. So I wanted to flash back to sprint lovers and use it to re back up the apk + data. Anyway, I just backed up the Fresh rom through clockwork and I'm pretty sure I can flash back to SL from there too, right?
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I use clockwork. What happened was I thought I used mybackup pro to download all the apps but I think I just backed up the data. So I wanted to flash back to sprint lovers and use it to re back up the apk + data. Anyway, I just backed up the Fresh rom through clockwork and I'm pretty sure I can flash back to SL from there too, right?
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Yes you can, I personally don't use clockwork but I think when running the 2.3 GB beta it might not work correctly with recovery thats not up to date. I use amon ra 2.3 it works for me; are you on clockwork 3.0?
I'm on the most updated one, so yes 3.0, I haven't tried amon ra yet but I've heard a lot of people prefer that over clockwork. I'm in the process of restoring my SL rom so I'll keep you updated. Thank you for the quick responses
No problem, yes I prefer amon ra myself but its the users choice. If you still can't get in recovery I'd say try it on amon ra for the fresh beta then go back to clockwork. Only thing about switching recoveries is that you can't restore backups from one recovery to another!
I've never booted up or flashed through clockwork so this was new to me. I've always done it the old fashioned way I guess. This is a lot easier. I've read a bit on the differences with amon ra and clockwork, but it's always better to get perspective from a user. So why did you chose amon ra over clockwork?
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I've never booted up or flashed through clockwork so this was new to me. I've always done it the old fashioned way I guess. This is a lot easier. I've read a bit on the differences with amon ra and clockwork, but it's always better to get perspective from a user. So why did you chose amon ra over clockwork?
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Lol well lets just leave it at personal preference. Its said that clockwork has trouble wiping dalvik/cache at times, and other random issues and since my g1 days back in 2008 I've always ran with amon ra. There's other reasons why I will NEVER run clockwork but I think ill keep those to myself lol. Wouldn't want to start drama around here
edit: dirty beat me to it.
richdogg112 said:
I've never booted up or flashed through clockwork so this was new to me. I've always done it the old fashioned way I guess. This is a lot easier. I've read a bit on the differences with amon ra and clockwork, but it's always better to get perspective from a user. So why did you chose amon ra over clockwork?
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clockworkmod can be controlled by rom manager, which is helpful for noobs, and is a bit cleaner, but cant read amend scripting. amend is much easier to write, and more widely known. most flashable zips are written in amend, because it's more flexable and everything. only a few big roms are written in edify. amon-ra can read both amend and edify. so it's much easier for me and other minor/learning developers to write in amend.
I apologize, that's what I meant I was doing. I'm using Rom Manager to flash. I've had my Evo since October and just rooted it about a week ago when I got my Xoom. I'm very noobish still and still learning the programs for rooting.
richdogg112 said:
So I downloaded it and love it. But it won't let me access my recovery when my phone is off and I hold power and the down volume anymore. Any suggestions?
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You'll need to turn off fast boot in the settings. When that's on, the phone doesn't completely shut off.
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You'll need to turn off fast boot in the settings. When that's on, the phone doesn't completely shut off.
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*facepalm* I completely forgot about that which is funny because that's one of the first things I did myself lol
I knew I was gonna love this XDA site. Fast, helpful responses. Guess I'm used to forums putting down the other users.
richdogg112 said:
I knew I was gonna love this XDA site. Fast, helpful responses. Guess I'm used to forums putting down the other users.
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hahah if you do it right you will. post a question in the dev section, or without searching first, or jsut a dumb question.... here's what you get. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1047664 lol
Lol, I tried a search for it and the only thread that came up was the dev one, since I just joined I couldn't post there and came here. So even if I end up with a bad experience down the road, first impression was a very good one
I had trouble installing c7 mod,I have root ,supberuser,busybox,clockwork ROM manager, butall I got was skateon arrowrevolving over and over.so I kept doing recoverys with ROM manager. I was told use amon ra. Now I can,t get back to ROM mgr,or recoverys.
All I get is a white screen with HTC in it and ijumps to the stock power/volume down screen which all choices lead back to that.I canget the aman ra menu but i can,get the clockwork mod recoverys. Sprint tech said nothing can be done and warranty is void. I just bought it when I tresses in a 3d evo that got smashed they replaced in one day but that has boot 1.50000 any ideas? Is there away in amon ra to flash toalternate recovery mod?
the way clockwork let use amon ra?
Thanks inadvance
Jon
If you can get into recovery with Amon Ra, go the wipe function and wipe everything except the sd card itself. Do the Factory reset/User Data wipe. Wipe cache and dalvik cache twice, then reflash your ROM.
Remember, it'll take up to 10-15 minutes to boot up the first time
Not really sure what you mean but you can flash amon ra 2.3 from hboot if thats what your asking you can get the link to it from my sig.
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jonperis said:
I had trouble installing c7 mod,I have root ,supberuser,busybox,clockwork ROM manager, butall I got was skateon arrowrevolving over and over.so I kept doing recoverys with ROM manager. I was told use amon ra. Now I can,t get back to ROM mgr,or recoverys.
All I get is a white screen with HTC in it and ijumps to the stock power/volume down screen which all choices lead back to that.I canget the aman ra menu but i can,get the clockwork mod recoverys. Sprint tech said nothing can be done and warranty is void. I just bought it when I tresses in a 3d evo that got smashed they replaced in one day but that has boot 1.50000 any ideas? Is there away in amon ra to flash toalternate recovery mod?
the way clockwork let use amon ra?
Thanks inadvance
Jon
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Yea you have to be more clear on exactly what it is you want to do and for crying out loud dont call Sprint and tell them your rooted. They wont help you and now you probably have been flagged....What ever it is you want to do, try a google search for it and make sure you read up on it carefully. If you are rooted and have Amon then you are in a great position
i agree with the last two posts.relax,and think.if you can get into hboot you are not bricked.do you have an og evo or the evo 3d?if its the og evo,then you need to find a pc36img.zip file and put it on the root of the sd card.you can find all the files you need in this forum.once you have found that file download it and then put on the sd.go into your hboot and it will read it and then select update.once its updated,do not select reboot go into recovery.if you have a green recovery screen you are golden.i would put an su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed zip on the root of the sd card as well.go back into hboot.DO NOT SELECT UPDATE OR REBOOT WHEN PROMPTED!!select no to both of those then select recovery.it will go back into the green recovery and select install zip from sd,then select choose zip from sd.then scroll down to the su signed zip and let it do its thing.once you have done that,reboot the device and you will have a stock rom.redownload rom manager and update clockwork mod to v.4.4.whatever and you are golden.if you have the evo 3d,i know revolutionary dont work with the hboot v.1.5....ive tried with a friend of mines 3d.i hope i have helped,Lord knows i have done it enough with my own evo.if i helped you please hit that little thanks button for me
ryan thanks for relax and think advice
I fixed problem ( which was basically I could only bring up amon ra and the only recovery image it saw was a a bad one that wouldn't recover anything). Among Ra would let me hook up to my laptop as a usb drive where I could see my SD card , I was able to take a clockwork mod recovery image of a ROM disliked but it worked, rename it exactly what was in the anon ra folder ,move it and the files into the anon ra folder, and viola!!! Amon Ra recovered into that ROM and I now switched to swag rom which is great. Now I do wish there was a viper ROM for the 4g, and a way to unlock and s-off my EVO3D that came locked and has hboot 1.50000.
Anyway all is ok, and the advice about relaxing and thinking from Ryan might have seen simple but was what I needed, thanks Ryan.
By the way, swag-on is a great ROM, stable, WiFi tether, hdmi mirroring, great dock ,and funny boot animation.
Jon
Hey guys, Sprint ended up changing something on my account and screwing up my evo so I couldn't access 3g. Long story short, I RUU'd to get it back to stock and was able to then get 3g data back. Now it still shows S-Off, but I can't boot into recovery and the clockwork mod rom manager won't work, because it says my phone still needs to be rerooted. I was thinking since when I boot into recovery it says S-Off, i'm already rooted and I just need the zip for clockwork mod recovery and I can then go in and flash roms to my hearts content.
Does anyone know where I can find the .zip for clockwork mod recovery?
You need to flash clockworkmod through the bootloader I wouldnt recommend clockworkmod and most people don't recommend it you can find it on clockworkmod.com under recovery images and look for the EVO
Edit:also you might have to flash a superuser zip to get root back
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I don't personally recommend clockworkmod to use as your recovery, but if you just need to have it, you should find it much easier to run the attached PC36IMG file from your SD card.
Also, you may need to flash (or install from SD card) through clockwork the attached superuser zip file to obtain your root permissions if you are going to continue to use stock ROM.
That works
Thank you Shorty Dogg - the pc36img.zip was exactly what i needed. I'm used to Amon Ra, but wanted to try out clockwork. Thanks again!
I would use amon RA or amon RA style supersonic recovery since u had cwm b4 I'd recommend RA style supersonic recovery 3.0.8 as it will allow you to use your cwm backups as well as RA backups and any backups you make in the future, plus it has capacitive buttons and touch screen working in recovery has a battery level option and etc check it out in development
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hcavlnch said:
Thank you Shorty Dogg - the pc36img.zip was exactly what i needed. I'm used to Amon Ra, but wanted to try out clockwork. Thanks again!
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Good luck cwm is garbage compared to RA on the evo it doesn't like to wipe properly alot of times, as well as it doesn't have the same wipe options as RA, atleast it didnt the last time I used it which has been a minute I ditched it for RA almost immediately
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ok i've used the rev tool and installed superuser but says not rooted. I've installed busy box and this is what it is saying. " error. root access not detected. Your device must be rooted to install busy box. if you fell that youare recieving this message in error please go into superuser app and click on busybox installer and then click forget and restart this app." but it is not showing that in superuser. do i just flash the superuser in this section and try it again. i'm rooting a friends phone and followed the instructions to the t. thanks in advanced.