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Hi,
which is the latest hermes radio upgrade ?
Thanks
1.54.30.10
Radio Problem ????
It would be to your benifit to explain your problem a little mor so that we can help you a better than just a radio build as there may be more to your situation than we know and the you could be back with a no GSM or "briked" device so the more you let us know the more help you can recieve.
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Reaper29 ....
its people like you that make this forum an amazing place to be a part of, spend time at, and benefit from. Bravo to you & your great intentions, sir.
I know of too many forums that have plainly rude members, for no reason at all.
Good place to ask
Been scouring the net for an hour now to trying to get an idea of what Radio Rom would be best for me, thought this might be a good thread to butt in on
I currently have 1.43 with Schaps 4.30 ROM, using T-Mobile in the UK.
Is there a better Radio ROM out there for me? Any improvements to signal would be nice, especially data seeing as it's my main source for the internet at the moment (just moved, broadband is taking too long to get active )
Well , 1.54 is newer than yours based on the #. It might be worth a whirl to try the at&t dialer and see if it works? you could always go back to 1.43 if necessary
I think that's what I'll do, hesitated after reading a few threads that didn't paint the 1.54 ROM's in a good light, but like you say can always go back.
Just to give my 2 cents worth, I was using 1.54.07 since June 2007, It performed very well for me except for whenever I had no reception for an extended period. Once I returned to an area with reception I would have to Soft Reset else my Hermes would not find a signal again. After reading the recent bad reps for 1.54, I decided to downgrade to 1.43 again. What I have noticed since downgrading is the batt is no longer lasting me as long. Normally I have 60-70% batt life left after a normal day with 1.54.07, now I see only 30-40% batt remaining.
See Mr Vanx's report for his current tests http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358933
Reaper29 ....
its people like you that make this forum an amazing place to be a part of, spend time at, and benefit from. Bravo to you & your great intentions, sir.
I know of too many forums that have plainly rude members, for no reason at all.
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ryaske..... thanks brother just trying to give a little back to a community that has helped me so much
I have a serious Radio Problem...
The battery lasts only 2 hours tops whith the Radio ON, and 3-4 hours in standby.
Ofcourse, the when the Radio is OFF it goes back to the normal consumption rate...
Can anyone help me?
Details:
ROM: Official WM6 (3.54.255.3)
Radio: 1.48.00.10
Is there any problem with radio 1.54.07.00 and battery drain?
I have Cingular 8525 and the battery last at most 6-8 hours, with less than 15 minutes of usage in the entire day.
I had the latest official Rom from AT&T, but last night tried Schap's Rom 4.31 to see if there was any difference. But the battery drains as fast as it used to.
My previous device was an 8125 and I could have the device without a recharge for 2-3 days. This one hardly last a days work.
3G
I've found battery life with 1.47 and 1.54 varients similar- they stink if your 3g is enabled and you're using direct push always on. I barely get the day out of my phone when I'm at my desk, not making a lot of calls.
I've turned 3G off and sticking with EDGE, get at least 2 days life.
Right now I've got Schaps 4.31, and Radio 1.47.30.10
great reception, good data speeds, good life, all good. But don't use the 3G unless you need it.
Having tried them all, 1.40.30.00 radio is by FAR the most battery efficient and stable for MS Push email IMO.
Here is a list of all the radios. 1.48 and 1.50 seem to get good reviews, but I cant remember if thats only in the US or if thats UK too...
nanastas said:
I've found battery life with 1.47 and 1.54 varients similar- they stink if your 3g is enabled and you're using direct push always on. I barely get the day out of my phone when I'm at my desk, not making a lot of calls.
I've turned 3G off and sticking with EDGE, get at least 2 days life.
Right now I've got Schaps 4.31, and Radio 1.47.30.10
great reception, good data speeds, good life, all good. But don't use the 3G unless you need it.
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I have Schaps 4.31 Rom too... I tried disabling 3G and leaving just the 3G. But didn't noticed any difference in the battery consumtion.
I also did a test last nigth. My battery was at 40%, I turned off the radio and the phone) Leave it on my desk without using. 2 Hours later I checked the phone, it was at 10%. I don't get it... the radio is off, the phone is without use, and still drains the battery this fast?
pulsorock said:
I also did a test last nigth. My battery was at 40%, I turned off the radio and the phone) Leave it on my desk without using. 2 Hours later I checked the phone, it was at 10%. I don't get it... the radio is off, the phone is without use, and still drains the battery this fast?
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Was the screen off also?
Did you try that same test with other ROMs, and get the same results?
If yes to both of those ...... try running the same test again... but this time hold the power button until it asks you "power down?". Click yes, and now your phone is 100% off and not just in standby.
The likely conclusions of this test are as follows:
If the battery does NOT drain in this state ... you my friend have a bad battery and simply need to replace it with a fresh one (especially if you bought this phone used!).
If it DOES drain down in this state .. you my friend MAY have bad phone hardware or a short in the battery contacts. Clean out the inside of the phone, and (i would) still try a new battery just incase.
You may also want to run that program "acbPowerMeter".
It tells you the CURRENT your phone is drawing. I would say 110-70mA is normal. My phone is pulling 73mA average with screen brightness two clicks in from the right, not attached to charger, and phone powered ON with 3g enabled but not active. If yours is significantly higher, you have some drain in the software. If its the same, it would point to your hardware (most likely battery)
ryaske said:
Was the screen off also?
Did you try that same test with other ROMs, and get the same results?
If yes to both of those ...... try running the same test again... but this time hold the power button until it asks you "power down?". Click yes, and now your phone is 100% off and not just in standby.
The likely conclusions of this test are as follows:
If the battery does NOT drain in this state ... you my friend have a bad battery and simply need to replace it with a fresh one (especially if you bought this phone used!).
If it DOES drain down in this state .. you my friend MAY have bad phone hardware or a short in the battery contacts. Clean out the inside of the phone, and (i would) still try a new battery just incase.
You may also want to run that program "acbPowerMeter".
It tells you the CURRENT your phone is drawing. I would say 110-70mA is normal. My phone is pulling 73mA average with screen brightness two clicks in from the right, not attached to charger, and phone powered ON with 3g enabled but not active. If yours is significantly higher, you have some drain in the software. If its the same, it would point to your hardware (most likely battery)
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The screen was off. But the phone was in standby.
I will try your other suggestions to see what happens. I'll also try other radio roms. Reading this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358933), tests seem to show that rom 1.47.30.10 has good performance.
Will post later the results.
Thanks...
I did the acbPowerMeter test.
I get around 162mA Average and a total of 21mAh (for 10 minutes)
With screen brightness on the second click (from left to right, the least bright before backlight off), not attached to charger, and phone powered ON with 3G enabled but not active. No other program running except acbPowerMeter.
I tried turning 3G off (leaving just EDGE) and I got 169mA Average and a total of 21mAh (for 10 minutes). Strange that with 3G off got about the same or a little more.
I tried to do the test with the phone screen off (stand by), but it seems the program doesn't run in standby.
Any idea?
I meant 2 clicks in from the right .. so 2 clicks away from full bright is what I ran at.
I think you might want to start a new thread for this problem.
To give you some more numbers to go on ..
with phone on, bluetooth on, wlan on (and mated to router), no data connection, and screen 2 away from full bright .. my phone bounces from 80-115 sitting there with the screen on. Avg is 96 and total is just short of 8 mAh in 5 minutes.
take the numbers for what they are. keep in mind if your voltage goes down, your current will too. so run these tests at full batt.
search for battery drainage and find your problem , def replace the battery just to be sure its good. Personally, I would just sell the phone on ebay if a new battery didn't fix it. Time = money these days.. just get a new one and know its good
I've been seeing sporadic posts in different threads about battery consumption in WM6.1 ROMS.
Well, it turns out that since starting to use WM6.1, I've noticed a dramatic decline in my battery life. I can maybe squeeze out a day of use with minimal use. If I use HSDPA / Voice / WiFi - forget it, I get 1-2 hours before the battery drops to nearly zero.
I used to get much better life out of my battery before.
I tried playing with different ROMs, then different Radio version - to no avail - battery life sucks.
Any tips / ideas / comparisons on how to get reasonable performance with WM6.1 or is this just my battery having issues?
I think this would be more your device...
To check this, go back to your manufacturers ROM, and see if the same still happens. Also try this test with no 3rd party applications installed.
Poor battery life is usually cause by either:
1) Applications using 100% CPU
2) Faulty ROM
3) Faulty Phone or Battery.
If you're tried multiple ROMs, I'd say you can rule out #2.
I get around 2 1/2 days out of the stock 1350mAh battery on my hermes.
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ygeller , i had some battery life problems with my hermes and i found on another thread some ppl saying to first flash the ATT rom RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_3.62.502.3_6275_1.54.07.00_108_UOOS_SVN05_Ship
and then the cooked one. That worked wonders for me, the radio version 1.54.07.00 is the best i tryed so far for battery life and network stability.
I'am using the latest PDAViet rom and no problems so far, with battery holding for 2 to 3 days with normal use.
ygeller said:
I've been seeing sporadic posts in different threads about battery consumption in WM6.1 ROMS.
Well, it turns out that since starting to use WM6.1, I've noticed a dramatic decline in my battery life. I can maybe squeeze out a day of use with minimal use. If I use HSDPA / Voice / WiFi - forget it, I get 1-2 hours before the battery drops to nearly zero.
I used to get much better life out of my battery before.
I tried playing with different ROMs, then different Radio version - to no avail - battery life sucks.
Any tips / ideas / comparisons on how to get reasonable performance with WM6.1 or is this just my battery having issues?
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Please try another radio, i used always the newest en I got the poorest battery performance! Now I use 1.47.30.10 in combination with PDAVIET roms and now my battery holds a day of 2/ 2,5!!
u are not alone
Hi ygeller,
me too have similar issues pls visit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392831 for details...
I have issues with charging too with my phone never charging full no matter how long i keep the charger on it get's stuck at 80%...
But good news is that I've arrested the drain now i flashed the PDAcorner pr0 V3 yesterday and through the entrire night the drain was less that 1% but it hasn't solved the drain if I use voice/data cause an 11 min call had my battery coming down from 63% to 16% ..
I guess i am gonna try and flash the stock ROM as compumad says..
I guess at least the charging issue is due to faulty ROM ( i hope)..
Thanks guys for input..
I agree that I get better battery life with the 1.47.30.0, in addition to aquiring a signal faster. The BIGGEST fix for me however was replacing my year old battery with a good quality Li-ion battery. Now I go a full day with hardly any drain using anybody's ROM, of course YMMV
I am having the same experience. I tried several WM6.1 ROMs and they always drained the battery within 1 day. I am back on Schap's ROM now and I can work for up to 3 days with HSDPA and BT on. About 1 month ago I returned my Hermes because of a defect and HTC replaced the complete inner life of my phone. So this can be compared to a more or less new Hermes.
As a comparison, I recently received a Wizard as a gift and flashed it with the WM6.1 ROM of SNN and believe it or not, the battery lasts for amazing 5 days! And that is with GPRS and BT on!
So, are we talking a major device issue, a ROM issue or is there something I'm missing here?
froos said:
I am having the same experience. I tried several WM6.1 ROMs and they always drained the battery within 1 day. I am back on Schap's ROM now and I can work for up to 3 days with HSDPA and BT on. About 1 month ago I returned my Hermes because of a defect and HTC replaced the complete inner life of my phone. So this can be compared to a more or less new Hermes.
As a comparison, I recently received a Wizard as a gift and flashed it with the WM6.1 ROM of SNN and believe it or not, the battery lasts for amazing 5 days! And that is with GPRS and BT on!
So, are we talking a major device issue, a ROM issue or is there something I'm missing here?
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I've been on the current Shamanix`s WM6 Ultimate v2 FINAL [SuperStorage] ROM for a while and indeed the battery drains very quick- I've had to schedule Exchange email to be on for 2 hours now but a simple 20-30 min voice call drains the battery by about 30-40%!
I was on Schap's ROM but was waiting for his latest update. Will have to consider another one.
I have also had the same issue as people here with the battery running down very quickly.I did try going back to schaps 4.31 but did not seems to make a difference anymore.Will try going nack to standard rom and then changed to cooked and post if there is any difference.
are u guys serious? 2.5days out of the stock battery?
my battery is a 1300mAH and i get a week and a bit on standby, constant txting wifi, screwing around, i get at least 4 days.
now that i have a 1650mAH i cant even kill it in a day (wifi bluetooth and gsm all going at the same time)
theres a 3000mAH battery coming in the mail, if im gentle with it it should last.... 0.5 months?
riyazhyder said:
Hi ygeller,
me too have similar issues pls visit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392831 for details...
I have issues with charging too with my phone never charging full no matter how long i keep the charger on it get's stuck at 80%...
But good news is that I've arrested the drain now i flashed the PDAcorner pr0 V3 yesterday and through the entrire night the drain was less that 1% but it hasn't solved the drain if I use voice/data cause an 11 min call had my battery coming down from 63% to 16% ..
I guess i am gonna try and flash the stock ROM as compumad says..
I guess at least the charging issue is due to faulty ROM ( i hope)..
Thanks guys for input..
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you need to resync your battery circuit, charge your phone till your phone cant charge it anymore, then drain it till you cant even turn it on (no lights at all), charge it up again and it should be reading correctly.
here is more info about Li-ion and Li-Poly charge circuits.
see subheading "Guidelines for prolonging Li-ion battery life"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion
I also had a severe battery drain with several 6.1 ROMS. My main culprit was caused my certain applications not closing properly and running at 50%-100% CPU. The main apps were Internet Explorer, Windows Live, Poutlook, basically network based apps. For some reason the app wouldn't show up as running. It wasn't until I got a new task manager that showed "processes" that I found the culprit. I would make sure all these processes were "killed" and my battery life lasted a lot longer.
I eventually went back to a 6.0 ROM, as I couldn't take all the problems.
pr5owner said:
you need to resync your battery circuit, charge your phone till your phone cant charge it anymore, then drain it till you cant even turn it on (no lights at all), charge it up again and it should be reading correctly.
here is more info about Li-ion and Li-Poly charge circuits.
see subheading "Guidelines for prolonging Li-ion battery life"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion
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Unfortunately, I've done that without planning. I am constantly fully charging the phone - then it drains and dies after a few morning phone calls...
This doesn't help...
OK. I am flashing the ATT ROM to see what gives.
Already it's been a chore. I haven't flashed stock ROMs in quite a while - had to extract the NBH file and use in with a cooked ROM wrapper to get it to flash.
Will report back with results.
ygeller said:
OK. I am flashing the ATT ROM to see what gives.
Already it's been a chore. I haven't flashed stock ROMs in quite a while - had to extract the NBH file and use in with a cooked ROM wrapper to get it to flash.
Will report back with results.
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Have Flashed ATT, then PDA Corner Pro V3. I didn't have much faith in the voodoo of flashing the official ROM to magically repair stuff - and so far I can't say that I've seen much change...
too bad...
ygeller said:
OK. I am flashing the ATT ROM to see what gives.
Already it's been a chore. I haven't flashed stock ROMs in quite a while - had to extract the NBH file and use in with a cooked ROM wrapper to get it to flash.
Will report back with results.
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You put PDA into bootloder mode and the flash, no need to jumpthrough hoops.
Actually the AT&T Official has repaired numerous bad flashes for me, is a lifesaver.
I have been a user of the stock AT&T WM6 Rom for many months. Before that, I had the stock Cingular 8525 WM5 Rom, and many of the cooked WM6 ones, starting with an early Black, a couple of Custel's, Sleuth's, and a few others. I now use personal derivations of the stock AT&T WM6 Rom that I have been cooking up over the past few months.
I have NEVER had good battery life on my 8525, with ANY ROM at all. Left alone, my battery dies after only a few hours. I have learned to live with this, always carrying a second (charged) battery, and I have chargers at home, at work, and in my car, in order to deal with the issue.
I must ask, when others say they get 2 or more DAYS out of a charge with "normal use", please define what "normal use" is for you.
My "normal use" includes checking 4 email boxes, one of them push, one at at 30 minute intervals, and two hourly. I use PocketWeather, which I have doing updates at 30 minute intervals for 4 locations. 1-calc updates monetary exchange rates daily. I make/receive only a couple of phone calls daily (yes, a BIG battery-killer), and I rarely receive text messages. No MMS at all. I utilize Bluetooth devices during my commutes in both directions, only use WiFi at home (another big battery drainer, but since I'm at home, it doesn't matter). I keep the IR port turned off unless I'm actively using it. I am on the internet with my device every chance I get, using the normal AT&T WAP access point with an unlimited plan.
I feel that with the amount of usage I get out of my device (especially Internet and emails), I can accept the poor battery performance.
But I am curious ... those of you who claim much higher numbers for battery life under "normal usage" ... please explain what "normal usage" means to you. I have never seen anything close to the numbers that have been posted by many.
FWIW, my two batteries are: 1 stock 1300mAh, and one is a Boxwave 1350 mAh. Both are well over a year old.
-pvs
pvs said:
I have been a user of the stock AT&T WM6 Rom for many months...
...I have NEVER had good battery life on my 8525, with ANY ROM at all. Left alone, my battery dies after only a few hours. I have learned to live with this, always carrying a second (charged) battery, and I have chargers at home, at work, and in my car, in order to deal with the issue.
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I'm forced to agree with pvs. I'm in a very similar situation: I use the stock AT&T WM6 ROM, although I've used a couple of other ROMs and Radios before this.
If I set my 8525 to auto-poll my 4 mailboxes every 15-60 minutes, I always notice a definite decrease in battery life. In the beginning, I'd get the "low battery" notification before I even left work late in the afternoon (this is after getting a full charge the night before). In between then and now, I turned off auto-polling. I couldn't get any new mail unless I did a manual send/receive...but my battery life improved dramatically; I could get nearly two full days' usage out of it before having to charge at night.
I was fairly confident it had something to do with that data-connection required to update the mail, and I feel that it's confirmed: 3 days ago, I found a registry edit that turns off the 3G/data connection after being idle so many minutes (I have mine set to 2 mins). I can now auto-poll my boxes, but my battery life has decreased again...not QUITE as bad as before, but I pretty much have to charge it every night, now.
(Additional "normal" usage for me has always included using Bluetooth for a headset and several calls during the day, varying in length...around 30-50 minutes total talk time, if I had to guess.)
Frankly, I'm surprised at the people who say they're able to leave their data connection on all day (even if it's sending no data in certain moments) and see no appreciable battery-drain. This is my second 8525 and second battery, and my experience has remained the same.
I was going to try and find some sort of push EMail solution...but to make matters worse, I've been doing research and unless I'm misunderstanding things, it looks like WM6's version of "Push EMail" requires that "constantly-on" data connection. I'm frustrated, and I'm seriously considering getting a Blackberry.
If someone can come up with some alternative ideas, I'd love to hear them, but...even though I love my 8525...my patience is starting to wear thin with it.
(ATT WM6 2.15.502.3, Radio 1.40.30.00)
Superion said:
I'm frustrated, and I'm seriously considering getting a Blackberry.
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If you want to leave your connection on all the time and have a battery for the day and night....Blackberry. My tytn is fun to play with and flash but for my email it's blackberry.
bartybet said:
If you want to leave your connection on all the time and have a battery for the day and night....Blackberry. My tytn is fun to play with and flash but for my email it's blackberry.
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Good grief. Is this the consensus of everyone? I'd hate to give up my 8525, since it has Windows Mobile versions of what I work with, plus some pretty nifty games and apps...but I want a device I can both work AND play with. So far, the 8525 is falling down on the Work/EMail end.
I've dodged the blackberry for so long because of 1) no touchscreen, 2) it lacks the versatility of a true PC (ideally, PCs can be used for work and play; blackberries seem meant primarily for work). Plus, I don't know if the Blackberry's "push" EMail features will work any better with my particular mailboxes (i.e., it may have to constantly "poll" those boxes as well, which may result in similar battery drain).
BTW: It's noon here, after 3-4 calls this morning (around 25 minutes or so), EMailboxes updating (2 at 30 mins, 2 at 60 mins), Bluetooth off, and having read 2 CNN articles (and closing it right after)...my 8525 is at 70% power. X-(
(ATT WM6 ROM 2.15.502.3, Radio 1.40.30.00)
WinMo 6.1 was almost unusable. I switched to a Tael ROM to run 6.5, which was immensely better, especially using Spb Shell 3.5.
How does Android 2.1 compare? I know its a work in progress. I know its better than WinMo 6.1.. but how does it compare to WinMo 6.5 on the Fuze?
Also, I see mostly Android CDMA work being done for Raphael--anyone actively working on the Fuze (GSM) version?
thanks,
RickH
Actually, most of the work is being done by devs with GSM devices. You probably see more CDMA posts because we have more issues Or we're just special ed, either way.
I love Android, but currently it's not a replacement for WinMo - for me. The main reason being the battery life. While the devs have done great work, the battery is just not up to par - I need to run a full day on idle at least before I can switch over to it.
Is there any reason you haven't given it a shot yourself? You don't flash it to NAND, the entire OS just sits on your SD card - literally nil chance of breaking something hardware-wise with the device!
guess it's worth trying
I just need to find the steps and the latest usable build..
Battery life is that great on WinMo 6.5 either.
Often I find apps that I thought I closed are still active. Now I always check whats running before I put it on standby.(hmm wonder if there is an app to autoclose everything and standby the phone..)
BTW, I found when using the GPS in remote areas putting the phone in Flight Mode works wonders for battery life. GPS stays on, but Bluetooth, phone service, WiFi, are all off.
If you're in an area with poor or no service, turning off the radio will certainly increase performance - one of the main killers of the battery is the phone's radio. If it's constantly searching for a signal or using a lot of power to keep one... you get the point.
Battery life in Android is not on-par with WinMo. At least not for CDMA devices, some on GSM report 10-12hrs of battery life.
Were you having an issue finding builds? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601751 - that thread, first three posts or so have all the stuff you'll need.
Ive found that on my fuze, winmo 6.5 is horrid, but its got the only reliable battery life i need. I text like 24/7, so on android my battery is gone in an hour or two, while on winmo itll last atleast 8 hours, as long as i got my wifi off and got my screen's brightness turned down.
From one fuze owner to another. I have been running android 100% since GPS was enabled and don't plan on going back!
AkumaMax said:
From one fuze owner to another. I have been running android 100% since GPS was enabled and don't plan on going back!
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100%, seriously? how can you keep the battery life all day long? do you have 2 or more batteries as subs?
I have made it on my touch pro at&t！
i got about 3 hours on android, 20 txt messages, about 5minutes on the internet via 3g wifi and gps off, back to the blackberry for now
I like the stability of Windows Mobile, however, I hate not having ANY applications worth downloading.
I have been running Android on my Fuze for the past few days and am EXTREMELY surprised at how well it operates. It is honestly faster than my G1 and more responsive too.
The biggest downfalls I would say, are the lack of camera, poor battery life, and it gets pretty hot.
I honestly wasn't expecting for it to run smooth at all, but was delightfully proved wrong.
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I like the stability of Windows Mobile, however, I hate not having ANY applications worth downloading.
I have been running Android on my Fuze for the past few days and am EXTREMELY surprised at how well it operates. It is honestly faster than my G1 and more responsive too.
The biggest downfalls I would say, are the lack of camera, poor battery life, and it gets pretty hot.
I honestly wasn't expecting for it to run smooth at all, but was delightfully proved wrong.
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Yea, the developers really have done an amazing job on this project... Donate to them if you can, they deserve it!
Ryanze said:
100%, seriously? how can you keep the battery life all day long? do you have 2 or more batteries as subs?
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sorry about getting back so late on the reply but I just keep my phone charged as much as possible. Unfortunatly with the new stuff(6/21) the battery is a mega killer so back to winmo untill a more battery friendly build comes out. Allthough I did catch a glimps of a new HTC android phone on AT&T shelves yesterday. Tempted to get it for the low low price of $129.99
Configuring this thing for good battery life is exhausting. Before root I had done most things listed in this thread : http://www.xda-developers.com/android/tweaks-for-superb-battery-life-in-evo/ and finally achieved pretty good battery life.
After root, I have never been able to achieve this even though the bloatware isnt running, have various tweaks on there for performance, and so on.
Have tried Fresh Rom with stock and Kings #11 and liked it but had terrible battery life. Tried Myn's 2.2 with stock, Kings #11, and Netarchy and battery was not much better. Now running AVA9 (no flashed kernel) and battery is no better. Have tried running setCPU on all these setups and does not help.
Any suggestions? Seems someone will say this rom/kernel combo works for them and another person will say it sucks, don't use it.
I couldn't stick with Myn's because there were too many bugs/errors. If my best bet is to go back to all HTC stock rom w/root then so be it.
.....and yes, I have read through the numerous amount of threads on this topic but no clear combination has been highlighted that I have seen. I use my phone for business primarily so it needs to last me as long as possible. The thought of increasing my phone size with an extended battery is not appealing to me.
I have stock rooted 3.29. I initially did the plug-unplug trick when I got the phone. Then, I turned off always on data, and set email, google accounts, and Sense weather widget to update once an hour. Phone behaves the same as when data is always on, so I don't even notice 3G off when the screen is off.
I get 8 - 10 hours under very heavy use (constant fiddling, email, games, internet, calls, etc),
10 - 15 hours moderate (surfing, ebooks, email, internet),
and easily 18+ with light use (email, occasional light surfing, occasional call)
I have everything the same as before root so with the bloatware and some other things not running would think it would last longer than stock......not!
@greyopaque...what was the reasoning for using stock rom instead of custom? Battery life or just never tried any of the others? Would like to know if your battery life is better with just the stock over others.
Ditto....I am a heavy user and leave everything running that I need. I use the phone for what it was made for. After trying/not trying all different types of roms/battery tweaks/advanced task killers/battery monitors etc., I decided to buy another original red 1500 battery as I don't like the extended battery look either. So, until they come with better battery technology....I guess that would be the career to go into and make some money ;0).....we are stuck with the best phone ever...yet....with a battery life that sucks for those of us that put the phone to the test....have a great day!
Yep...only problem is having to shut the phone off, change battery, then power back on. All the while, missing whatever phone calls come in.
***My point of the thread really isn't the terrible stock battery but the fact that the pre-rooted setup lasted so much longer than the rooted w/custom rom. Why??
I would think the battery life would get better without all the bloatware and other worthless services running all the time.
Once again.. you need to check your apps. Most likely there's something causing a drain.. Try updating to the newest rooted stock roms (3.30). The new kernel is definitely an improvement.
As an aside.. what bugs did you have with myn's 2.2 rls2? I ran it, and it was fine. Now on rls3 beta and amazing rom with great battery (3.30 base).
To be honest, I've never tried anything else. I really like the stock Sense experience... and since this is a work phone, I need it to work without glitches.
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@greyopaque...what was the reasoning for using stock rom instead of custom? Battery life or just never tried any of the others? Would like to know if your battery life is better with just the stock over others.
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Well....hopefully I can hear from some peeps that have used a good amount of custom roms/kernels, as well as the stock one and see what they think.
Cmon guys....let me know!
@eyeballer1......Myn's was just acting weird and I kept getting a "com.htc.bgp" force close that I couldn't fix. Also, I have tried the newest stock rom but it is just so darn plain jane didn't keep it on long enough to test it. As for apps, I have basically the same apps on my phone that I had before root (except for specific root apps such as rom manager, titanium, etc).
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Ditto....I am a heavy user and leave everything running that I need. I use the phone for what it was made for. After trying/not trying all different types of roms/battery tweaks/advanced task killers/battery monitors etc., I decided to buy another original red 1500 battery as I don't like the extended battery look either. So, until they come with better battery technology....I guess that would be the career to go into and make some money ;0).....we are stuck with the best phone ever...yet....with a battery life that sucks for those of us that put the phone to the test....have a great day!
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Sadly they won't.. That is battery technology.. This world is pretty much stuck where its at and will probably stay there.. Its the one thing that is not progressing that much.. Even from the 50's
That said.. the thicker battery is the way to go.. Only you will know its thicker, and trust me.. ITS NOT THAT BAD! Believe it or not you get used to it.. If its for business, well then a thicker battery should not bother you at all, use it during the day and maybe at night switch back to the smaller one.. You know, for the dates and ****
The thicker battery will be a life savior.. All these battery tricks and tips help, but nothing is going to be mind blowing.. The fact is, this phone is extremely advanced and requires a lot of power.. I just except the fact that I need to be close to a power charger at most times..
I might go ahead and try Myn's new beta with 3.30 and see what happens. Looks as though I need to look deep into what is actually using my battery. I have always used K-9 for email and have heard it sucks up battery, but it only uses about 2% on mine and is the best email app I have ever found.
@fastfed......I'll have to ask my wife if I can go on a date sometime.
what helped me the most was wiping battery stats correctly (as per cyanogen wiki, but applies to all roms).
Charge to full, turn off, wipe battery stats. Turn back on, wait till everythings loaded, unplug. Use as normal until battery dies (do not charge at all until battery dies). Recharge fully in one go (meaning do not unplug while charging until full). Use and charge as normal.
This should be done whenever flashing new rom.
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I also use k9 for mail. As I use Hotmail not Gmail.. is it really that bad? Anything else out there ?
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The biggest positive jump I have seen in regards to battery life was going from Cm6 to 3.29 ruu stock, then I ur3 to root.
I'm still sceptical that the 3.30 zip update gave any improvement to battery life as I have seen others report. In fact, I almost wonder if I somehow have less battery life now, but it could be in my head. It's almost impossible to approach this issue scientifically since I use this evo all day.
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Try bakedsnack 1.8, its the best battery life I've seen on a rom w/o having to make all these stupid tweeks and disabling features on ur phone.
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I'm gettin great battery life using vaelpak 2.3 with the stock htc kernel. I imagine most of the custom kernels around are based off of older kernels and while they may have higher "performance" ratings though I have hardly been able to tell a difference between kings 11 or baked speed and battery, I think the newer stock kernel is your best choice no set cpu to worry about, its just simple. I'm personally gettin about 14 hours with almost constant music playing to bluetooth headset, a bunch of browsing, and occasional use of google navigation which is a big battery eater. With just phone and text use after 21 hours I was at 52% yesterday.
ok so i have literally flashed every major rom / kernel and a comination of each. I have found that with minor tweaking most sense based roms get close to the same battery life. some people will argue that this or that rom is best but I would challenge others to truely preform a test on them and i bet they would be suprised.
k-9 is only a battery hog if you have it constantly polling for new emails if you have it set up to scan constantly then it will take a reasonable about of battery life but nothing more then most other email apps with the same settings.
have you tried as was lsited above and recalibrating your battery? I am assuming you are a pretty heavy user from the sound of things. How long where you getting pre root and how long are you now getting rooted? do you have titanium back up set up on a schedule? If so that can cause major battery drain as it sometimes keeps your phone awake.
All in all with the information you provided no one can actually tell you what is wrong. there are to many variabes and everything we say is a shot in the dark hoping to hit common problems.
my best recomendation configure your battery stats as listed above, if you havent tried use the HTC trick (chrage battery for 8 hours turn off phone charge for 1 hour turn on phone unplug it or 2 minutes then turn it off and charge for another hour.)
Anytime you wipe data you wipe your batary stats and it can drasitally impact your phones "battery life".
At this point I'm not so sure my battery or charging device on the phone isn't defective. But, only time will tell.
Currently I am running the newest, non-beta Myn TwoPointTwo and Netarchy 4.2 non-havs. I also ran this procedure (which fachadick already suggested):
1. Phone on...charge until green light comes on. Immediately unplug and turn phone off.
2. Plug phone back in until green light comes on again. Immediately boot into Recovery and wipe battery stats.
3. Use the phone on battery until dies.
4. recharge phone to 100%
I'm still on step 3. Will report back after a few days.
I had never heard of doing this when switching roms so hopefully it will help since I have swapped out a good amount lately.
Does anyone know where to get the newest HTC flashable kernel based on the new 3.30 release? All I have found is the rom package.
Hey folks!
I have the EVO 004 Supersonic. I love flashing my Android, and do it constantly. I am having issues with Synergy RC1 that just went live. My battery is draining fast, and I mean in an hour maybe two, I have to charge it. That is just being on idle, not being used. Drains much faster if I use it. I flashed back to my original image (stock) and the battery lasts longer. So I flashed Mik, and it lasted longer and I flashed CyanogenMod and that sucker lasted longer, but I LOVE the way Syngery looks and flows. But I cannot get the battery to last longer. So I thought maybe apps were running that are not supposed to, so I use my favorite app killer and the apps keep popping up, they are driving me nuts. Why the hell are they restarting? I want them stopped and NOT to reactivate. Is this an issue with anyone else, because I really do not want to get rid of this ROM. Also, yes, I cleared the Battery stats as well. Still fast drain.
Oh, one more thing, I cannot OVERCLOCK the damn thing either. So, those are my issues, cannot get apps to stay shut off (force close even), Battery is dying super fast and cannot get it to stay charged longer than two ours. Oh, and I already checked my battery with Sprint, battery is good, and they even gave me a SECOND one, and it still drains fast. Please advise.
Thanks for listening folks, and I appreciate any help. I love this site and has helped me NUMEROUS times, but I finally had post my own specific issue as I have never dealt with this before nor found anything that can help.
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Hey folks!
I have the EVO 004 Supersonic. I love flashing my Android, and do it constantly. I am having issues with Synergy RC1 that just went live. My battery is draining fast, and I mean in an hour maybe two, I have to charge it. That is just being on idle, not being used. Drains much faster if I use it. I flashed back to my original image (stock) and the battery lasts longer. So I flashed Mik, and it lasted longer and I flashed CyanogenMod and that sucker lasted longer, but I LOVE the way Syngery looks and flows. But I cannot get the battery to last longer. So I thought maybe apps were running that are not supposed to, so I use my favorite app killer and the apps keep popping up, they are driving me nuts. Why the hell are they restarting? I want them stopped and NOT to reactivate. Is this an issue with anyone else, because I really do not want to get rid of this ROM. Also, yes, I cleared the Battery stats as well. Still fast drain.
Oh, one more thing, I cannot OVERCLOCK the damn thing either. So, those are my issues, cannot get apps to stay shut off (force close even), Battery is dying super fast and cannot get it to stay charged longer than two ours. Oh, and I already checked my battery with Sprint, battery is good, and they even gave me a SECOND one, and it still drains fast. Please advise.
Thanks for listening folks, and I appreciate any help. I love this site and has helped me NUMEROUS times, but I finally had post my own specific issue as I have never dealt with this before nor found anything that can help.
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jeez...dead in 2 hours...and being idle?! that sux. i was running Synergy for a while and didnt have THAT bad of battery life (i maybe had 7-8 hrs before it needed to be charged again)
and of course you cant overclock yet...the kernel doesnt support it! it's still the stock kernel that came with the OTA...HTC still hasn't released the source code for the kernel so no custom "gingersense" kernels for us just yet (i.e. no HAVS, sbc, overclocking, etc.)
try some of the battery saving tips that Myn links to in the 2nd post of the Synergy thread...maybe that will help
question for you: why are you using an app/task killer!?!?!?! Android has one built in already [MENU >> SETTINGS >> APPLICATIONS >> RUNNING SERVICES (or MANAGE APPLICATIONS)] that could also be a reason your battery life is crappy (i really hate task killers so that last line might be biased lol but seriously...android does have it built it)
AmericanAlien said:
Hey folks!
I have the EVO 004 Supersonic. I love flashing my Android, and do it constantly. I am having issues with Synergy RC1 that just went live. My battery is draining fast, and I mean in an hour maybe two, I have to charge it. That is just being on idle, not being used. Drains much faster if I use it. I flashed back to my original image (stock) and the battery lasts longer. So I flashed Mik, and it lasted longer and I flashed CyanogenMod and that sucker lasted longer, but I LOVE the way Syngery looks and flows. But I cannot get the battery to last longer. So I thought maybe apps were running that are not supposed to, so I use my favorite app killer and the apps keep popping up, they are driving me nuts. Why the hell are they restarting? I want them stopped and NOT to reactivate. Is this an issue with anyone else, because I really do not want to get rid of this ROM. Also, yes, I cleared the Battery stats as well. Still fast drain.
Oh, one more thing, I cannot OVERCLOCK the damn thing either. So, those are my issues, cannot get apps to stay shut off (force close even), Battery is dying super fast and cannot get it to stay charged longer than two ours. Oh, and I already checked my battery with Sprint, battery is good, and they even gave me a SECOND one, and it still drains fast. Please advise.
Thanks for listening folks, and I appreciate any help. I love this site and has helped me NUMEROUS times, but I finally had post my own specific issue as I have never dealt with this before nor found anything that can help.
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First, Synergy runs on HTCs stock kernel, they havent released the source code for the kernel yet, so there are no custom kernels for any evo 2.3 rom, so you cant overclock, or get the awesome battery life we usually get from custom kernels.
Now the battery draining is usually the radios. Right now I have wakelock on my phone running synergy, but I dont wanna mess with my radios, you would have to try different radio/pri combos until you find the right combo.
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jeez...dead in 2 hours...and being idle?! that sux. i was running Synergy for a while and didnt have THAT bad of battery life (i maybe had 7-8 hrs before it needed to be charged again)
and of course you cant overclock yet...the kernel doesnt support it! it's still the stock kernel that came with the OTA...HTC still hasn't released the source code for the kernel so no custom "gingersense" kernels for us just yet (i.e. no HAVS, sbc, overclocking, etc.)
try some of the battery saving tips that Myn links to in the 2nd post of the Synergy thread...maybe that will help
question for you: why are you using an app/task killer!?!?!?! Android has one built in already [MENU >> SETTINGS >> APPLICATIONS >> RUNNING SERVICES (or MANAGE APPLICATIONS)] that could also be a reason your battery life is crappy (i really hate task killers so that last line might be biased lol but seriously...android does have it built it)
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I use task killers because I can kill all tasks at once instead of individually. I would like to be able to close apps I am not using as well. But they keep popping up. I know now the overclock does not work with gingerbread, but man, I got a lot of misinformation.
I appreciate your help, I will try the battery saving tips, but if it is about letting the phone die, erasing battery logs and then charging it and then making the green light stay on when first plugged in and other stuff like that, I have tried it to no avail. I just flashed another ROM and the battery is FINE! It is so damn frustrating. I see others with great battery life. I just cannot get mine to do it.
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jeez...dead in 2 hours...and being idle?! that sux. i was running Synergy for a while and didnt have THAT bad of battery life (i maybe had 7-8 hrs before it needed to be charged again)
and of course you cant overclock yet...the kernel doesnt support it! it's still the stock kernel that came with the OTA...HTC still hasn't released the source code for the kernel so no custom "gingersense" kernels for us just yet (i.e. no HAVS, sbc, overclocking, etc.)
try some of the battery saving tips that Myn links to in the 2nd post of the Synergy thread...maybe that will help
question for you: why are you using an app/task killer!?!?!?! Android has one built in already [MENU >> SETTINGS >> APPLICATIONS >> RUNNING SERVICES (or MANAGE APPLICATIONS)] that could also be a reason your battery life is crappy (i really hate task killers so that last line might be biased lol but seriously...android does have it built it)
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Well, you guys probably will not believe this, but I got my battery to last a looooong time! I was messing with my battery options and decided to turn OFF the battery saving option it gives (enable power saver). I rebooted the phone charged it fully and then took it off the charger, BAM! Being FULLY charged it went down one percent after being on for 40 minutes. That is much better than I was getting on my stock and other roms. I just love this dang rom. Now, if I could only overclock the darn thing. So I have had the EVO on for 2 hours and 10mins and the battery says 97%, sweet. Anywho, battery issue is solved, loved it. Has this been mentioned before? Turning off the battery saver to save on battery? LOL. It probably has and I must have been to frustrated to absorb that info. Thanks for your help!
Battery saver...
I, too, was having draining issues on my Synergy-ROMed Evo. I could WATCH the battery drain. But I turned off the "battery saver" in power prefs and it's HOLDING STEADY! I'll report back if this doesn't turn out to be the cure I was hoping for, but it's definitely worth a try.
Now if I could just get this GPS to stop rebooting my phone...