Froyo and apps - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

The main reason for rooting my phone, I think, is to use A2SD. Now that Froyo is out for Nexus, I haven't seen mentioned whether it allows apps to be installed on the SD without rooting. What's the answer?

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Rooting question

Hi guys,
This is a very nooby question, but i was wondering exactly what benefit do i get for rooting my desire. Is rooting only required to install newer roms?
Also, if i were to simply root the desire would i lose any functionality such as bluetooth not working or wifi not working or the LEDs working?
I'm thinking of following the following guides for rooting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=672770
But before I do that, I just wanted to know what exactly is the point of rooting. any comments would be appreciated
Some benefits are:
Flashing Custom Roms
Marked Enabler ( If you cant get payed apps in your country )
You can Customize your phone a bit more
Flaws :
You loose your warranty...
Yea thats what i was wondering too.
I guess I wont root my phone for a bit, until the 2.2 roms are more stable, because i can already search for paid apps
thanks for the response
Even more nooby question.. what is this flashing custom ROM?
yea.. im new
Flashing ROMS enables you to customise the phone. On the ROM i installed i did not put facebook, twitter, friendstream, quick office and many other apps that come with the phone as i dont use them.
The main reason why i rooted the phone was to install a ROM with A2SD+ on it.
On standard android operating system the apps are installed on the internal memory which is only around 140mb, Basically A2SD+ installs all the apps on the SD card.
I have installed around 85 apps and still have around 102mb free.
P.s. i used this rooting guide, http://nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire/
But i did not use that way to install a2sd because i installed a2sd+ instead.

[Q] Rooting, downgrading, market enabling?!

Hi. I have searched the forum, and checked google for possible answers for about 2 days but haven't come up with something I can use.
I got my HTC Desire a couple of days ago and soon upgraded it to froyo. However being from Denmark i realized that I do not have the option to purchase apps, which leaves me with some demos and apps I would like to buy the full versions off.
I then browsed the topic and saw that my best option was to root my phone and give it a custom rom.
After all methods had failed me I browsed a little more to find out that none of the methods I had used would work on 2.2.
I then found some nice guides about downgrading but all of those said something like: Don't do this if your phone is either *gibberish* or *lots of numbers*.
So basically that leaves me with a bunch of questions:
1. Is there a way to enable the market without rooting/flashing until there is a way to just root 2.2 (this is without buying a foreign sim card)
2. IS there a way to root 2.2 that I simply missed?
3. is there a way to downgrade at which I do not have to fear utter destruction and chaos.
4. Why does google not love me back
I have the same problem
someone? please.
I too could do with a guide on how to downgrade from OTA froyo (hboot 0.92) in order to root and flash a custom rom. Battery life isnt really acceptable in the stock froyo and I could do with sideloading one or two apps from my hero.
munken said:
1. Is there a way to enable the market without rooting/flashing until there is a way to just root 2.2 (this is without buying a foreign sim card)
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Yes, but it's not a one-click-solution. You need to downgrade to hboot 0.80/Android 2.1, then root your phone, then flash any cooked ROM you like.
Read all the details here.
Cheers
tadzio

[Q] What is the "Best" root Method for Root-only App Use?

I have a stock Android 2.1 Evo rooted with Unrevoked3. I've been holding off upgrading to Froyo because I don't have a good handle on what my best upgrade option is. First of all, I really don't care about using custom ROMs or uninstalling the Sprint apps that come with the phone. All I really care about is that I want to be able to run Wifi tether and SetCPU.
Second, I want the rooting process to be as easy as possible. I probably wouldn't have bothered rooting my phone in my first place if it hadn't been for the initial unrevoked release making it so easy to do. Unrevoked3 was a bit more involved, but at least I didn't lose my existing apps or settings. So, all other things being equal, I'd really like to avoid having to backup and restore apps and application settings.
Third, I want the root to be reversible. Unless, of course, I've already irreversibly done something to my phone when I rooted it with Unrevoked3. (I haven't been able to find a clear answer anywhere that says whether or not you can "unroot" from Unrevoked3- just a lot of people asking about it and some people saying something worked for them and other people saying the same method didn't work for them). From what I understand, Unrevoked Forever willl irreversibly modify my phone, which makes me worried I won't be able to get my phone serviced under the warranty or TEP if I ever need it.
As far as I know, there isn't a way for me to upgrade to 2.2 without either 1) doing something irreversible (Unrevoked Forever), or 2) wiping my phone's apps and settings (flashing a rooted 2.2 ROM). Is that true? If I wanted, how would I flash a 2.2 ROM given my phone is already rooted with Unrevoked3?

[Q] Stock 2.2 or Cyanogen - also advice on upgrading?

Although I am tempted by Cyanogen, I was reading through their forum about one or two issues so am still a little unsure about it.
Can I just ask a couple of things:
1) What are the general advantages of cyanogen over stock firmware? i.e. what extra features if any and do you lose any functions?
2) How easy is it to upgrade my rooted T-Mobile wildfire to a stock unbranded version of 2.2 without losing root and keep the ability to revert back to branded stock firmware (including the bootloader) for warranty purposes if needed?
Many thanks in advance
Hey,
Some advantages are: overclocking, more work memory (i had about 90-110 memory on stock froyo, about 170-190 with CM now), all the useless slow apps running in sense are gone, general smoother feel, live wallpapers, being able to install themes to make your UI a bit nicer, ...
You can re-install the stock sense ROM afterwards if you want (although I doubt you will want to, most people like the improvement after a custom ROM ). And as far as I know, when you use the revolutionary tool ( http://revolutionary.io/ ) to S-off, you can revert that and get the original bootloader back for warranty issues. However I have not done this myself, but I recall reading it here (others, correct me if i'm wrong ) *edit* http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160251
Many thanks Wolfway
Cyanogen sounds great from what you say - have you had any issues with the stock browser on it? I must admit I have tried dolphin/skyfire/opera etc but tend to like the stock one the most generally?
Also, I know you have to install the Google apps separately but can you install them individually afterwards as I think I'd only use GMail, Maps and Market (are there any others? I don't use many other stock apps than those). I know you can get Maps as an apk and Gmail was on the market I think?
Or is it just easier to install the Google Apps zip file from Cyanogen?
As long as I can go back to a stock firmware and can just try it then I can see no harm in at least giving it a try...
Just one other thing about the Revolutionary, does reverting it to S-On also take off the 'Revolutionary' line in the Boot loader so there's no evidence of the S-Off having taken place?
About the restore, I cannot help you as I have not tried nor did I read topics about that, I suggest you go ask in the specific topics
You have to flash google apps (you can find the correct files on the cyanogenmod wiki's). You cannot download the apps from the market as the market is included in the google apps file to flash... when you boot after installing the google apps it asks you which to download however. Maps, chrome to phone, ... so if you do not want one it will not install.
And I actually have never used the brower on stoyo froyo or cyanogenmod 7. I use opera mini, but do not browse often on the internet, I mainly use apps for the stuff I need

Need HELP I Have No Idea.

Hi guys I am a newbie here and need some help I have read through a few posts and still don't fully understand things to my specific needs I recently de-branded and rooted a xperia play and things went well I used some software that I was told to use and then used gingerbreak excellent stuff but now I have another query.
I have an xperia play running android 2.3.3 with the build version 4.0.A.2.368 originally the handset was on Vodafone I bought it 2nd hand and put my t-mobile sim card in and everything works fine, I have apps on there that relate to Vodafone customers e.g Vodafone store Vodafone updates and something called qype I do not want these an can not uninstall them there is also the apps that came with the 2.3.3 update like the wise pilot app that I don't need and want to remove. I also keep getting low storage warning and cant see why as I only have a few apps installed an about 10 games most of which I have moved to sd card using the built in option.
I have read about not being able to use gingerbreak with 2.3.3 I have read about downgrading to 2.3.2 and then using OTA to update but what I don't want todo is loose my games and apps that are on my fone can anybody tell me if this is possible and how I can do this. I don't want todo anything fancy like over-clocking I just want a way to free up space move apps to the sd card and remove the unwanted apps that I don't need.
I do apologize if this has already been discussed before I have searched and cannot find anything.
Look for thread in the dev section on how to root with zergRush, that should do it even on 2.3.3
And there's a thread about wich apps are safe to delete/freeze. Think it's located in the general section.
Regards Dousan...
thanks i will give this a try a bit later gona backup all the data i can just to stay on the safe side before going head with the it.
You can downgrade to 2.3.2 without loosing your data,just uncheck the ''Wipe data '' box,gingerbreak and then ota to 2.3.3 and you have root on 2.3.3 without data loss

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