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Is autokiller needed with 2.2

Asking I have it loaded atm it seems to work but its not sticking on reboot have to reset it
sent with my evo from a secret place

Sporkman said:
Asking I have it loaded atm it seems to work but its not sticking on reboot have to reset it
sent with my evo from a secret place
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Well, first of all, autokiller probably won't do much for you in Froyo, seeing as Froyo has some major memory enhancements. I'm not even sure if the file autokiller modifies still exists in Froyo. I'd imagine so, but I really don't know. All I know is, you really don't need autokiller at all.

Agreed.
I had Aaron La's Task Manager (a fantastic application management app by the way) set on auto-kill, etc and I my device ran much better uninhibited on both 2.1 and 2.2. I know it seems hard to believe but... that's the glory of Android...
Now I use Task Manager for install/maintain/uninstall purposes only.

I vastly prefer SystemPanel.
I used to be OCD about killing tasks, until I read more about how it actually worsens battery life

oh yeah, and the funny part is, Task killers won't even work in Froyo. They can stop apps, but the apps just pop back up into memory. All the OCD people out there are going to go nuts!

[Q] Task killing in 2.2???

Just read that task killers no longer work as they are supposed to in 2.2 im wondering if there is anything else i can do aside from using the completely crap method google has given froyo of going to setting/apps/manage apps and force killing all the apps that start themselves
i noticed earlier ATK wasnt killing some apps so this kind of explains it

You don't NEED a task killer in Android in the first place.
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ive tried other task killers and they all created FCs and resets. task manager is the only task killer that i found that works great with no FCs or resets. task manager is awesome lets u auto kill task with a set time after your screen is off instead of instantly. it also lets you kill services. it really does help my EVO and i can suggest it. also it was recently updated to work with 2.2. try it out and let me know what u think. make sure to ignore things that are important to you such as mail messages etc

Or you could listen to the first reply and just stop using a task killer. Froyo is much more optimized than previous versions of Android, and really runs find on its own. By lettings apps sit in memory, the phone will run faster and more optimized. Seriously, that's why Google deprecated the code that task killers originally used.

as much as id like to not fumble around with a task killer i find it hard to believe it doesnt need one for the one reason that if i dont use one after about 30 minutes of opening and closing apps or just basic use it starts getting choppy and slow...

I was sold on task killers originally, believing them to increase battery life.
Wrong. They sure did on WinMo 5.x - 6.x, but they sure DONT on android.
I actually tested it out myself. Since going without task killer, i'm getting exactly the same battery life I got with it. It might even be a touch better since there is now no task killer code taking CPU time and hogging memory.
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Also, we have the best multi-tasking phone OS in our hands and we want to hobble it by killing processes willy-nilly. Why don't we embrace the fact that android beats WinMo by a country mile in multi-tasking, and beats iOS 4 by a lap or two. Oh and iPhone OS 3.x and before still say "wtf is multitasking?"
Thanks.

[Q] whats a safer way to kill apps.?

Sorry i know there's posts on app killers being safe or not, just had a question towards it.
i currently have the HTC but soon to upgrade to the HTC Evo, and when i get the Evo i want to do this a safer way.
on my HTC hero ive used Advance App killer, or Estrong Task Manager. but over the 5 months of having this phone. ive noticed a HUGE decrease in speed. before i could open and close apps and it would be semi fast. and now some take 3-4 seconds. ive flashed roms and then go back to original settings. im not downloading any apps really except:
Winamp, Angry Bird, Zenonia, pandora, Battle.net blizz authenticator. and task killer. so my memory isn't being taken up all that much.

I'm not trying to start a pro vs con task killer debate, but I've had no reason to use one on my EVO. When I had my Hero I had to use them constantly, but mine was stock unrooted 2.1.

it could be how the hero handles froyo...my returns had similar issue after flashing cm 6 for froyo...i may be wrong...technically as far as I know froyo don't need a task killer.

ok well thank you for ur input

theidlemonk said:
it could be how the hero handles froyo...my returns had similar issue after flashing cm 6 for froyo...i may be wrong...technically as far as I know froyo don't need a task killer.
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i noticed with froyo ive had issues with them more cause it doesnt close them at all. it says it does but reopens everythign the exact same second. like mu music, messaging, email, internet, ect...
but when i went back to stock it just seems my phone lost so much speed. takes forever to open anything now

There is no reason to kill apps with froyo. Use Autostarts to prevent crap from starting and let Android do its thing. If you think your phone is running sluggish, do a hot reboot instead of killing apps. If you want to use a task manager, SystemPanel is the only one I recommend, and not for its app killing. It has a lot of other features to help you diagnose issues and keep track of what apps are doing.

awesome, thank you again metalhead.

As long as you use a froyo rom, it handles task killing all by itself. If you insist on using a task killer, try Autokiller from the market. Its not a traditional task killer, it lets you tweak the task killing to certain degrees. Give it a shot.

kyhassen said:
awesome, thank you again metalhead.
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noooo prob

Sab3r One said:
As long as you use a froyo rom, it handles task killing all by itself. If you insist on using a task killer, try Autokiller from the market. Its not a traditional task killer, it lets you tweak the task killing to certain degrees. Give it a shot.
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Agree, it is better on the long run

[Q] RAM issues

I have had been rooting my s2 since i have gotten over a year ago, and have not had lag issues with too much RAM being used. Now the other day my phone started using 600+ mb of RAM. I was on rooted 4.1.2 With GB27 modem. I thought resetting phone completely would work, but no hope. I wiped everything, and 5 min after powering up it still uses 600+ mb of RAm
I flashed multiple JB Roms to my phone with no avail. I am currently running SenseWiz 2.0 on 4.1.2 GB27 (followed steps in the Roms thread 100% to flash this btw). It still uses no less than 500+ mb of ram. This phone has never lagged on me before and it really irritates me. Something as simple as pulling down notification bar even lags.
Please let me know what I need to do to fix this.
Also not sure if this is right forum section, but sounded like a noob question to me lol.:crying:

colbyt94 said:
I have had been rooting my s2 since i have gotten over a year ago, and have not had lag issues with too much RAM being used. Now the other day my phone started using 600+ mb of RAM. I was on rooted 4.1.2 With GB27 modem. I thought resetting phone completely would work, but no hope. I wiped everything, and 5 min after powering up it still uses 600+ mb of RAm
I flashed multiple JB Roms to my phone with no avail. I am currently running SenseWiz 2.0 on 4.1.2 GB27 (followed steps in the Roms thread 100% to flash this btw). It still uses no less than 500+ mb of ram. This phone has never lagged on me before and it really irritates me. Something as simple as pulling down notification bar even lags.
Please let me know what I need to do to fix this.
Also not sure if this is right forum section, but sounded like a noob question to me lol.:crying:
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Hi. Someone can give you a better answer, but something to check first is what's using it. I don't have this phone, but I think the location is:
Settings -> ________ (a tab) -> Applications -> then "swipe right" to show Running Apps. Since I don't think most people have this issue, it might be an app you installed that's just bogging down the phone. It should show as running, and maybe several processes. What app(s) do you install after flashing the ROM? (For example I install Yahoo Mail, Netflix, etc.) Or maybe some apps got in their with some crazy default app settings that make them stay awake and work all the time.
Use the Greenify app. It's amazing - puts to sleep the stuff you do not need until you open that app. For example, you don't need Angry Birds up in your business unless you want to play it, lol... that can clear RAM too...
G'luck. :good:

erikalin said:
Hi. Someone can give you a better answer, but something to check first is what's using it. I don't have this phone, but I think the location is:
Settings -> ________ (a tab) -> Applications -> then "swipe right" to show Running Apps. Since I don't think most people have this issue, it might be an app you installed that's just bogging down the phone. It should show as running, and maybe several processes. What app(s) do you install after flashing the ROM? (For example I install Yahoo Mail, Netflix, etc.) Or maybe some apps got in their with some crazy default app settings that make them stay awake and work all the time.
Use the Greenify app. It's amazing - puts to sleep the stuff you do not need until you open that app. For example, you don't need Angry Birds up in your business unless you want to play it, lol... that can clear RAM too...
G'luck. :good:
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Thank you. I already have greenify and still no luck. I am ready to throw this phone at a wall! It is so slow.

Why does it seem like Android phones slow down when.....

My question is why is it that Android phones slow down and become laggy once you install a lot of apps? It's annoying because I'm one that Installs a lot of apps on my phone. It's currently happening on sgh m919. It also was happening to my old RAZR Maxx HD.

XBlackChaosX said:
My question is why is it that Android phones slow down and become laggy once you install a lot of apps? It's annoying because I'm one that Installs a lot of apps on my phone. It's currently happening on sgh m919. It also was happening to my old RAZR Maxx HD.
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So does Iphone...And any other smart phone....So do computers....Its because you download so much crap and have so much crap running you fill up all your ram.

It matters greatly WHAT apps you download.
Properly designed apps that aren't invasive don't take up any RAM or other system resources (other than storage space) when not being actively used.
It's apps that are designed to run constantly and use up system resources with high priority that bog down the speed and make the rom sluggish. Sometimes that is done because the app developer doesn't know what he's doing. Sometimes it's by design because the app developer doesn't care how the side effects are and he just wants his app running all the time for various reasons. Some apps needs that, like a text messaging app that has to be ready to go the second a message comes in. Some apps don't need that kind of priority but are given it anyway.
You can even have well designed apps that are able to produce notifications that don't run at full speed in the background hogging up system resources.
It's having too many of those kinds of apps installed that cause you problems. Not apps in general.

XBlackChaosX said:
My question is why is it that Android phones slow down and become laggy once you install a lot of apps? It's annoying because I'm one that Installs a lot of apps on my phone. It's currently happening on sgh m919. It also was happening to my old RAZR Maxx HD.
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The thread about better battery life: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357417 shows how to make apps better behaved.
Using Greenify and the other methods discussed will also make your phone less laggy, as well as saving battery. Almost all messaging apps, as well as Facebook, etc will really slow things down.
Rob