Hello all,
I've just heard of HTC not providing warranty to devices with altered Roms.
Considering this is true, has the Touch Diamond 2 a reset button to place the original factory Rom before sending the device to the manufacturer?
I'm planning on buying one, this is why i'm asking.
Thank you,
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1) this does not belong in the android development
2) the reset button reboots the phone.
Rebooting the phone will only restart whatever ROM is on the device. You can use a key combo to force a ROM reflash that will return your phone to its original configuration. There is also a program called Clear Storage on these phones that will do the same thing.
Miami_Son said:
Rebooting the phone will only restart whatever ROM is on the device. You can use a key combo to force a ROM reflash that will return your phone to its original configuration. There is also a program called Clear Storage on these phones that will do the same thing.
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Wrong.... using the "key combination" will NOT reflash back your original rom.. all that does is hard reset the phone to the original settings of the custom rom you put on the phone.
If you have done any reading about flashing roms you'll see its a 2 parter. The first is the Hard SPL and the second is flashing the custom rom itself. If you plan on sending a phone back in for warranty purposes and have a custom rom on then you need to do two things. Flash back to the stock rom which you can download in the roms section and then you need to respl your phone to whatever version of spl your phone had. I believe there are three different ones to choose from.
That way when you send it in they cant tell that you had a custom rom on and that you dinked with the phone in any way.
So in short.... doing a hard reset will NOT just go back to your original rom.
Do some reading in the rom section, specifically the Hardspl thread and within the first page everything is explained in details on how to hardspl the phone and REspl the phone back.
good luck
Didn't mean to get your dander up, but if you reread my post I said nothing about it reflashing to the stock ROM. I said it will reflash to the original configuration, meaning whatever ROM is currently on the device will be reset and lose any customizations or add-ons. A soft reset will not accomplish this. Sorry I wasn't more specific.
Oh no worries Miami... Keep in mind the guy has 1 post... He could have been around for ages and know all about flashing roms and what not but its pretty easy to assume he doesn't know much about it with only one post. If I was confused by what you said I can only imagine what he thought. "oh once I flash a custom rom I just have to do a hard reset and it goes back to the way it was when I got it"
Just covering the bases here right
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any time now on any rom, i'll soft reset my phone and all of a sudden it goes to the windows mobile start screen with the screen calibration.. (basically a hard reset to a clean os)
how do i fix this, i been trying to find a solution to this problem for some time now but haven't got a concrete find for it
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any time now on any rom, i'll soft reset my phone and all of a sudden it goes to the windows mobile start screen with the screen calibration.. (basically a hard reset to a clean os)
how do i fix this, i been trying to find a solution to this problem for some time now but haven't got a concrete find for it
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I am sure I have advised this when you wrote on one of the threads. Try flashing a shipped rom first, it is in my 4shared, doesn't matter if you have AT&T 8525 or not as it works for my jasjam. Flashing too many radios may kill your phone. So ... flash that and then flash the one you want ..
I have not in my time flashing my phone and my customer's phone that a soft reset causes a hard reset after following the doctors instructions
i will try that but what does the regular att rom have that customs dont to stop this from occuring
ezsoulja said:
i will try that but what does the regular att rom have that customs dont to stop this from occuring
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As I mentioned no issues for me yet touch wood/knock on wood as your part of the world probably accustom to.
ok so far so good, no more hard resets but i just wondered what the original att stripped rom is actually doing to stop this from happening and how much more to reflashing the roms before it happens again..
it has something to do with the big storage/non big storage flashings etc and that shipped rom sorta resets it all to an acceptable state to the phone's brain so to speak .. the doc's never wrong
ezsoulja said:
ok so far so good, no more hard resets but i just wondered what the original att stripped rom is actually doing to stop this from happening and how much more to reflashing the roms before it happens again..
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In a normal rom, the flash rom is split into two pices, ext rom and storage rom.
In a bigstorage rom, this boundery is removed.
Now, over time, this causes instability in the way windows access and manages the rom, leading to data loss (random hard resets).
Flashing a OEM rom with a OS partition and a Ext rom parition acts as a spring clean on the memmory layout, thus, stability.
As with windows, most things are solved by formating your HDD and starting again, its the same kinda thing!
Great.. Thanks guys, im back to normal now with no hard resetting.
I'm pretty new to the world of windows mobile, my Diamond is the first WM device I've ever had and I must say I wish I had one earlier! (xda-dev forum is my homepage now )
Being that I'm a newbie to all this I wanted to ask a few questions so that I have this all clear in my head before I go and brick my phone :\
From what I have read, I been able to gather the following (and PLEASE correct me if this isn't the case):
-Loading a ROM on your device is essentially like 'imaging' a PC? (ala ghost or something) including the 'formatting' of the devices
-Hard resetting the device is like formatting and reinstalling the LAST loaded rom.
I also have a quick question
-Am I able to dump my current ROM so that if I don't like another ROM I can always go back to it? and if yes will this rom include the installed programs/data/etc or will I need to reinstall those after?
Sorry if these are stated in other threads, I did search but I may not have known what to look for.
Thanks!
basically yes, the rom is the image. a hard reset is more of a full reboot/retore default setting knida thing. it does not go through the format and re install process. as for dump, search a bit more on how to do that. you can find stock roms all over these forums so you don't really need to, but it can be a good decision if you need to return to the factory.
I've seen people say to flash a stock ROM before flashing a cooked one - why? Surely all the data from the last ROM is overwritten by the cooked ROM anyway, isn't it?
iridium21 said:
I've seen people say to flash a stock ROM before flashing a cooked one - why? Surely all the data from the last ROM is overwritten by the cooked ROM anyway, isn't it?
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I'm not sure about the TP2 but on the hermes it was always recommended for going from an extended storage rom to a normal rom. Might have just carried over since then.
Doesn't make a difference, its a myth. The flash chip gets rewritten.
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Doesn't make a difference, its a myth. The flash chip gets rewritten.[/QUOTE
If custom ROM without radio You should flash stock ROM first(if you would like to have it)
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petard said:
Doesn't make a difference, its a myth. The flash chip gets rewritten.
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Not a myth, at least to some devices like the diamond, HD and the HD2 where members who decide to skip this step are finding themselves with very unstable devices that often turn off or restart on there own.
Flashing a stock rom or using the mtty tool erasers any artifacts that can be left behind when flashing cooked roms.
Flashing Procedures I use:
• flash stock rom or mtty tool found in sig.
• flash cooked rom
• hard reset twice
Never had any issues from automatic resetting of any kind!
ive been flashing since the wizard, and probably after 20 phones ive never flashed stock rom first. i actually stop hard resetting to.
intruda119 said:
ive been flashing since the wizard, and probably after 20 phones ive never flashed stock rom first. i actually stop hard resetting to.
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As mentioned, some devices are more prone to it perhaps. There are a lot of threads that speak to members dealing with device resetting and other glitches and the remedy recommended is always the same.
For me, it's just habit now....
Only do this as a last ditch effort. Say u flash a custom rom, hard reset as u should, then configure the rom. But u seem to be getting odd screen freezes and problems that only u seem to get and not anyone else for that particular rom. U go into the thread of the rom asking and everyone says its just u. Well at this point u would flash stock rom, hard reset, flash same custom rom, hard reset, now the custom rom works perfect! Why? How th hell should i know? I just know what works!
I think that flashing a whole stock ROM each time is a bit over the top. If you want to be on the safe side, then do a hard reset on your old ROM, then flash the new ROM, then hard reset again. That should do as much as flashing the stock ROM would do.
I think main the benefit is because the CustomRUU doesn't perform a Hard Reset after flashing, where as the Stock RUU does.
Some people prefer to do a "task 29" nand format. Unless you've been flashing dodgy ROMs that go outside of where they are meant to then I think you'll be OK.
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DaveShaw is the man so take his advice.
I have flashed over 40 ROMs (all from XDA or HTC) on my TP2 and I never flash back to stock. I have had no issues. I also did the same with my Tilt1.
So, I flashed my frist rom back in April. I tried out the Energy Rom. Last night I tried out the Core Cell Evo Rom. This Rom started to give me trouble so I flashed to the current energy rom. I'm still new to this, so I think I may have made some kind of mistake that I'm not aware of.
I noticed that when I flashed to the new energy rom, the splash screen for the cell rom came up. Now whenever I try to change the date and time on my phone, it kinda locks up. I think it still functions, but because the screen is frozen I can't see what to press so I end up doing a restart. Does anyone know how I can remove all the remnants of the cell rom? I thought when you flash a new rom, it's supposded to completely get rid of the old rom?
First run TASK29, then flash preffered ROM, after that do HARD RESET, and then it must be OK
Some ROMs include a new splash screen, and some don't. The EnergyROM series doesn't include a splash screen, so that's why you can still see the Core splash screen.
You can find utilities to replace this if you search for "splash screen".
Task29 won't affect this (i.e. it doesn't touch the splash screen, nor the radio either), but it does a good job at wiping the ROM area itself.
If the problem still happens after a task29 and a flash (i.e. the lockups), then you should post about this in the thread relevant to the ROM you're running.
Thanks for the info guys. I'm at work but I'll try out the task29 thing when I get home. I didn't post this in the energy rom thread because I didn't want to seem like I was directing my problem at that rom until I had a good idea of what was going on. If the problems still persist, then that's where my next post will be.
You can always reflash a stock ROM. That will give you the original spash screen back and then you can flash the custom ROM again.
Well, it wasn't the splash screen that I was worried about. Seeing the splash screen made me think that the core cell rom was conflicting with the energy rom. After hearing what steviewevie had to say on the subject, I know otherwise. I'll also install a custom splash screen later now that I know that can be done to.
You can go here for the steps to change the splash screen its actually pretty easy and fun.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576703
Ok, I ran Task29 and I've installed the stock rom. Do I need to do another HardSPL before I can flash a new rom?
No you only need to perform the hardspl once which you have already done so from now on when changing roms just make sure to task 29 then flash new rom and thats it
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No you only need to perform the hardspl once which you have already done so from now on when changing roms just make sure to task 29 then flash new rom and thats it
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Oh? I didn't use the stock rom that was put up on this site. I actually downloaded the Tilt 2 rom from the HTC site. So I thought that would have made some kind of difference.
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Oh? I didn't use the stock rom that was put up on this site. I actually downloaded the Tilt 2 rom from the HTC site. So I thought that would have made some kind of difference.
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HardSPL was designed to stay on the phone, even if you flash stock ROMs. You have to specifically run the relocker utility (from the HardSPL thread) if you want to go back to the stock SPL (e.g. for warranty return).
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I'm moving your thread to General. This has nothing to do with ROM development. Custom ROM usage yes, but not Development.
Russ741
Hopefully this is the right place to post. I apologize if it's not.
Last week I bought the Samsung Galaxy S2 X from Koodo Mobile. The model # is SGH-T989D and runs the newest version of ICS. 4.04 I believe.
I hadn't had any problems until recently. I was trying to root my phone when I ran into some trouble. I forgot to make a backup of my system, so when I ran into problems, I just decided to try out a couple custom roms. At some point something got messed up badly with my phone. Whenever I turn it off now the lights at the bottom of the screen stay on. Unless I hold the power for 30 seconds to a minutes it won't turn back on. The factory reset has also been a problem. I'll go to reset it, and it formats the usb storage, but doesn't restart. When the phone is on, it seems to work fine.
I finally managed to get a telus stock rom to flash and work. So I have two questions I'm hopeful someone can help me with.
1. Are there any Koodo stock roms for ICS? I've looked on tons of different sites, and it seems it's all either for T-mobile or Telus. Is that because Koodos just came out with their phone? I'm just looking for the exact version that would have been on my phone when I got it. I found one online, but it had no baseband version. If I have to return the phone or send it in for repairs, I'd like it back to stock,
2. My other question is, does the light not turning off, and the turn on problems sounds like a hardware issue? I've been trying to fix this for the last 24 hours and it's driving me nuts. Since I'm a noob I have no idea whether I should keep trying or just send it in for repairs. Does it sound like something that can be fixed? Like maybe I'm flashed a wrong kernel or am using a bad rom? I don't know, but advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks to anyone who answers.
you have various roms made for koodo..2) are you talking about the soft keys? depending on what rom you use they can be different (locationwise) ... if I'm not mistaken all --- This is my personal opinion. Jedi on koddo should be more than sufficient as to suit your daily driver needs. Dev is very helpful and keeps a very organized thread. You can also try darkside, if I'm not mistaken he had a koodo version. i own a hercules so i at give more information... for your best info, go into the thread and ask the ppl i n them for their experience. everyone's needs are different so for what might work for me might not for you Infamous is another one. Just click on the t mobile dev section and you just scroll for what you like.. Hope this help
I guess my main question is about the key lights staying on. I'm pretty sure it means its not shutting down correctly because it also won't turn on again unless I hold down the power button for 30 seconds. So could that be caused by anything I did? Like any of the flashing or customers roms I used, or should I just send it back into Koodo?
Okay download this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/darksidetools/files/SGH-T989_DARKSIDE.SUPER.WIPE_EXT4.zip/download
And then flash a rom (any one, just pick one)
That is a flash able zip (in cwm recovery) that will completely wipe off every piece of system and rom data (does NOT touch anything on your internal memory or external sd). If your hardware lights are malfunctioning due to software, this will fix it. Then, when you flash your rom, if you still have the issue with your hardware lights, it's likely a hardware issue and you should follow a guide to return to stock everything and send it in for warranty repair.
Also, this is a Koodo based rom if you're interested:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849748
yoft1,
I appreciate your help. I did what you said and downloaded both the darkside clean wipe and the darkside cache wipe. Flashed my rom, and the light finally started to shut off.
Except when I did a normal factory reset just from the settings menu, when it reset I still have the same problem, it goes back to keeping the lights off. Does that make any sense to you? Like could something in the darkside clean or cache wipe fix it but then a factory reset mess it up again?
Also if I wanted to make a backup of my system, what program would you recommend to do it? Thanks again.
Just run the cache wipe again. It will fix that.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using xda app-developers app
Great, thanks for the help.
One other question, if I want to put my phone back to the EXACT way it was when I bought it, do I just need to flash a stock rom, or do I need to flash a kernel as well?
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yoft1,
I appreciate your help. I did what you said and downloaded both the darkside clean wipe and the darkside cache wipe. Flashed my rom, and the light finally started to shut off.
Except when I did a normal factory reset just from the settings menu, when it reset I still have the same problem, it goes back to keeping the lights off. Does that make any sense to you? Like could something in the darkside clean or cache wipe fix it but then a factory reset mess it up again?
Also if I wanted to make a backup of my system, what program would you recommend to do it? Thanks again.
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If you're looking to make a backup of your entire device image, your cwm recovery will do that for you under backup. No other way to do it, you have to do it via a recovery mode.
I don't know why factory reset would be causing that problem since I never use that but it does seem odd.
robois88 said:
Great, thanks for the help.
One other question, if I want to put my phone back to the EXACT way it was when I bought it, do I just need to flash a stock rom, or do I need to flash a kernel as well?
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To return exactly how you bought it, you need to first flash the stock ics kernel through cwm. Then flash an Odin tar file through Odin (desktop) which will restore stock rom as well as stock recovery. Unfortunately, I've looked around but could not find an Odin tar file for Koodo stock. Maybe you'll have better luck but in any case that is the process.
You seem competent and willing to learn, which doesn't happen as often as you would think. Let me know if I can help further. Good luck.
yoft1,
Many thanks again for your help. I am extremely green to this type of stuff so I feel like I've been thrown into the deep end here.
I've been looking around for the tar file and can't seem to find one either. But with the amount of people on here, there is probably someone who could upload it right? Would there be a thread or better forum for me to make a request? Or is that poor etiquette on this site?
I've just seen so many different roms, kernels, updates, etc...and I'm thinking somebody might be able to get it on here.
Ok you also said the first thing to do is to flash the kernel. Am I just lookng for any stock ics kernel? I just know I've looked through so many website and threads with different kernels, I just want to make sure I flash the correct one. Like is there a specific one per carrier, or model, or brand?
Again thanks for the help.
I would probably start a thread in the general section to see if someone can compile/upload an Odin flashable tar from Koodo stock. If that doesn't work or if no one responds after a bit, I would PM Mr X (a user on these forums). He is a dev that has uploaded stock roms for Telus and tmobile and he's also a really nice guy. He would probably know where to get one.
As for the kernel, I'm not sure if it matters but I would say with 80% certainty that there is no difference between the stock tmobile kernel and the stock Koodo kernel. On top of that, I would say with 99% certainty that it doesn't matter either way because I highly doubt they would look that closely (if there's anything to find at all) if you send it in for warranty purposes (but no promises of course) . If you get your hands on that tar file for Odin, I'm almost positive that the stock tmobile/Telus ics kernel will do it for ya.
Here is one of MrX's threads so you can PM him if the general forum doesn't work out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356739