Hey guys,
I've been trolling the forums for some time now, and I have yet to find the answer that I am looking for in regards to cooking my own ROMs - specifically for the HTC Vogue (Bell). I have looked through all sorts of stickies/readmes, but I still cannot figure out how to put it all together...
I've got a stock ROM from Bell, it has been extracted (so I have the bootloader, .nbh file and so on)...
Now HOW do I extract the .nbf, or even edit it for that matter? The only solution that I have found is the UNIX-based one, but I'll be honest, PERL and I dont get along well...is there a GUI or commandline based solution for WIN32?
I feel dumb for asking, but if someone could help me figure out the editing/compiling/flashing aspect, I'd be forever grateful
Thanks.
Most of the kitchens will take that nbh and parse it out in to the OEM and SYS folders you need.
I would suggest you search for DogGuy's command-line kitchen, and use that as a learning tool as he has batch files that automate most everything, and yet you can go through them to better understand what is happening.
Good luck!
Also some recent threads at ppcgeeks on this topic with useful info.
TGHI said:
Hey guys,
I've been trolling the forums for some time now, and I have yet to find the answer that I am looking for in regards to cooking my own ROMs - specifically for the HTC Vogue (Bell). I have looked through all sorts of stickies/readmes, but I still cannot figure out how to put it all together...
I've got a stock ROM from Bell, it has been extracted (so I have the bootloader, .nbh file and so on)...
Now HOW do I extract the .nbf, or even edit it for that matter? The only solution that I have found is the UNIX-based one, but I'll be honest, PERL and I dont get along well...is there a GUI or commandline based solution for WIN32?
I feel dumb for asking, but if someone could help me figure out the editing/compiling/flashing aspect, I'd be forever grateful
Thanks.
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Here is the link: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20550
Follow JD's instructions.....Test.....Test.......Test the ROM to make sure its stable before posting for others to use
Thanks D
dawilliams660 said:
Here is the link: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20550
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Yeah, I did check that post, however, it seemed that they were a step ahead of me...the tools that were provided did not (both gave application errors on launch...?).
Thanks for the replies, any one else have other tips, pointers, etc?
PPCGeeks.com is the answer...I still haven't found it yet...there's too much info on that site. Have you seen this thread:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=18745
By following that method its a TON of work...and that's using a 'kitchen' someone already made. What you and I want to do is create our own kitchen by stripping a stock rom...and there aren't any guides on how to do that...I'm assuming because that's even MORE work. So basically a (TON of work x MORE work) = Fu%$ that.
If you find a somewhat easy way to do this before I do, post it for us!
sean222 said:
PPCGeeks.com is the answer...I still haven't found it yet...there's too much info on that site. Have you seen this thread:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=18745
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Hey, I didn't see that thread yet, looks interesting, thanks!
Now, I can't wait 'till I get home from work...
Hello everybody,
I would like to share with you this working/booting version of android. Because I read many people have trouble, getting the phone work, or problems with looping boot. I putted this together, with the right zimages and rootfs and an working startup.txt. everything is pulled together from this site so the credit goes to the other ones. But I think it is nice to have an zipped build of android 2.1 ready to go for Topaz!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NRXPN3FV
The version is without sense.
Extract the rar to an empty sd card and run haret!
Have Fun!
How is this different from any of the other builds on this site?!?
To the untrained eye it would appear that the ones that are located in the (obviously) main thread are somehow broken or not working... People have issues, we do our best to help them hash it out. Threads like this are just going to create more confusion.
because it's copy and play, usefull for members who don't understand how to compile everything together, this is an good build, even usb works!
Unclassified said:
because it's copy and play, usefull for members who don't understand how to compile everything together, this is an good build, even usb works!
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A) What are you talking about USB works?!? Are you saying that YOUR build has things that work in it that other builds do not?
B) The others are "copy and play" as well... I haven't compiled a kernel in months, but I still get updated packages. Just copy them to the SD... how is yours easier again?
that was what i was saying indeed, things work what on other builds does not, but enough i understand you don't want it
Unclassified said:
that was what i was saying indeed, things work what on other builds does not, but enough i understand you don't want it
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Somehow I doubt it. So what works in your build that doesn't in the main builds? Mods, can we please delete this thread entirely?
Unclassified said:
that was what i was saying indeed, things work what on other builds does not, but enough i understand you don't want it
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How are you having USB working? afaik the system is read only. And you can't mount USB as Android is being run on it.
Be abit more specifigc about which USB functionality you are referring to
This forum is for the Raphael, not the Topaz. Stop wasting everyone's time.
babijoee said:
How are you having USB working? afaik the system is read only. And you can't mount USB as Android is being run on it.
Be abit more specifigc about which USB functionality you are referring to
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you can use your sd card as an diskdrive so you can add or delete files without having to boot to winmo
i didn't know i was posting in the wrong section, sorry please move to topaz android
regards
thank you for your work
thank you for trying tho
Hello,
sadly i couldn't find a How-To.
So how to get Android on my SD Card without formatting any Part using Haret.
Please Help, and excuse me, if this topic is wrong here or I'm just unable to use the Search.
hey
i dont know how your english knowledge is but ill just write everything in english and otherwise just message me.
so you need to go to http://androidonhtc.com and then there select kaiser
and then you need to download the basefiles
that is haret
http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/2010-02-20/haretinstall.zip/download
and the latest kernel here:
http://vogue-android.googlecode.com/files/basefiles-20091116.zip
and then you need to find an android version with SQSH support.
the donut here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619980
has that for example.
and then just run Haret and follow the installer.
I cannot recommend this method ebcause it is old and actually nobody is working on improving that.
I switched to NAND and its really good. You will never miss WiMo.
Or even the ext2 versions are faster and better (updated)
so just think about it if you really need WiMo anymore.
nick
Hi,
I searched the forums;
I searched the Internet - still no answer.
So please avoid comments like - try to seach harder.
I have already running HD2 with Froyo.
I got my friend's Raphael and downloaded the thing which is to be placed in andboot.
After that I tried to locate the haret and startup.txt. Yes, I went to the wiki, found the link for the startup.txt which lead me to an empty page.
So, please tell me where is the startup.txt for Raphael?
Is the hared from HD2 compatible with Raphpael?
Thank you
Hi orlean
I take it you unzipped the package you downloaded?
If so, take a look at the "\andboot\STARTUP CONFIG\"-folder. There you'll find several startup.txt's.
You should find haret itself already placed in the "\andboot\"-folder.
If this is not the case try downloading the following full bundle with everything you need included:
babijoee said:
Bundles
17.09.10 | 2.2 builds
XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.FRX01.17.9.10.UPDATE_PACKAGE NEW
Note: You'll need a new data.img as this package is signed. Otherwise you'll get a bootloop
Also you'll need to select English IME if you want to type in english.
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Regards
Preggy
I'm not sure if starting a new thread is the right thing to do since there is a specific thread for Android related querries here.
Anyway, if you downloaded babijoee's XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.FRX01.17.09.10.UPDATE_PACKAGE.7z, then the the startup.txt is in the Startup Config folder. If your friends device is a raph100 then it's in the Raph folder.
Haret is in the root of the archive. It should be the same as HD2's but, would you mind uploading it here so we can test? I heard that pongster's ROM uses a newer version.
edit:
Beat me by two minutes Preggy, but different approach to the solution.
06/16/2011
The screenshots are not important. This is not a theme!
You can install a theme from here, for example if you like.
The theme it comes with is the:
Go Louncher Classical Theme (The new version of it)
The software installed is also not important, because you can remove it.
Google Market is installed, and you can install what ever you like, just like on your computer.
https://market.android.com
This is the actual Android Froyo operating system for the HTC Kaiser
So, stop asking me for screenshots and software installed, it's not relevant.
And the how to install guide is been posted here
Bug reports are welcome, other then that, I don't wont to hear from you.
Don't post a thank you either, there is a bottom for that, and you can also vote on the poll up there, but install and test it first!
Again Bug reports only, please!
I been working on this for 3 days straight, and figure I'll share what I got.
Everything seems to be working, except the camera is blurry, but that seams to be the norm.
Included is the rom, radio and kernel
ROM: 2.2.1
Kernel: 2.6.25
Radio: KAISER 1.70.19.09
Panel: 2
Key Map: US Normal
Resolution: 240x320
Storage: Nand & Nand
Most everything is installed in userspace and can be uninstalled or upgraded.
Oh got GO Launcher EX installed (Also in user space)
Credits:
I stole ideas from, and used following tools:
Makers of atools
Makers of NBH creator
HTC Flasher
kallt_kaffe
Krazy-Killa
dzo (dzo's posts wore a big help. just wish he would answer his own questions after he found the solution)
n2rjt
and many more.
@todo
Resize NAND partitions to the smaller system size
Original post and download Links are posted on my blog:
http://press.pzzazz.net
Can you write something more about this? Is this your system and kernel(compiled yourself)? Any changes?
MaRekRM said:
Can you write something more about this? Is this your system and kernel(compiled yourself)? Any changes?
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Yeah witch apps are include. Some yours tweaks or etc... ???
MaRekRM said:
Can you write something more about this? Is this your system and kernel(compiled yourself)? Any changes?
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That sounds like a trick question.
Yes, at first I compiled everything my self but then to resolve bugs, I looked at other systems and basically stole stuff from them to fix my bugs. In other words, I can't take all the credit, it was a community effort.
Neo2SHYAlien said:
Yeah witch apps are include. Some yours tweaks or etc... ???
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I removed most everything from the system and installed it in user space. So the system is very lean. You can uninstall what you don't like.
how is the rom？just waiting to see
gruessle ...!! thanks for your efforts in getting this done... I been looking from long time to install Android on my HTC TyTN II. However i was not able to get the proper build...
can you share the screenshots of the build which you provided as well some steps at high level on installing this..
Thanks in advance.
Please, I don't really understand how to go upgrade this. I find it hard to do. Is everything needed packaged in this download, or please can u list things needed to change to android. I'll appreciate your response.
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Please, I don't really understand how to go upgrade this. I find it hard to do. Is everything needed packaged in this download, or please can u list things needed to change to android. I'll appreciate your response.
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here is the howto
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680518
kkp said:
gruessle ...!! thanks for your efforts in getting this done... I been looking from long time to install Android on my HTC TyTN II. However i was not able to get the proper build...
can you share the screenshots of the build which you provided as well some steps at high level on installing this..
Thanks in advance.
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The screenshots are not important.
This is not a theme.
You can install a theme from here, for example if you like:
http://golauncher.goforandroid.com/category/themes/
The theme it comes with is the:
Go Louncher Classical Theme (The new version of it)
The software installed is also not important, because you can remove it.
Google Market is installed, and you can install what ever you like, just like on your computer.
https://market.android.com/
This is the actual android froyo operating system.
Anyone else having trouble getting the kernel to install?
I get to 33% and the phone reboots...
Radio installed fine even though I was already using 1.70.19.09, just to be sure I installed everything in the package.
Installed HardSPL 3.34 and a WinMo 6.1 rom (custom) to see whats wrong. Installed L1q1d's kernel and goes right in like it should.
Checked .NBH with NBHCreator and only found 1 thing wrong: kernel set to Eclair instead of Froyo. Changed to Froyo and saved, attempted reflash and still won't go in...
;(Losted);
I also tried to install this kernel but I can't. Flashing in hardspl after few second give folowing error:
00018003
Os Fail
Update Terminate
UPDATE Fail.
Changing parameters in atools not helping. Every another kernel is flashing without problems so it's not phone fault
Gruessle, thanks for your efforts! I want to try your rom but being a noob waiting for more comprehensive list of known errors before flashing it to my kaiser.
Ok, quick "bug report":
After working with the kernel pack multiple times I have come to the conclusion that there might be a bug in the actual kernel file itself, throwing a code back to HardSPL and RUU (how I install).
I first noticed a problem in that the kernel was originally set up for a Polaris and had no resolution set. The size of the file should be unimportant as Scoot's newer kernel is in the order of 3.2-3.3MB in size (with the RIL patch installed it gets even larger), this one is 3,099KB, and l1q1d's is almost always 3,092KB.
The second issue I noticed is with the Froyo package itself... It's split up into many files (open the package in 7zip and you'll see what I mean). Normally, the packer has the files all listed inside the .tgz file, this one has the files inside many other files.
I have thus not installed the system on either phone because (correct me if I'm wrong), the kernel contains the basic directories for where everything is installed, and if I were to try and install this package on say, l1q1d's kernel, the phone would most likely crash because the files would not be found, including /system.
If ANYONE wants to dig deeper into this problem, feel free to message me. Personally, I think we've about finished getting all we can from the Kaiser, and much respect goes out to those who have done all the work in the past, but there's always that glimmer of hope that someone will find a way to pack this into a working rom installable through RUU or HardSPL.
I have one last thing to say:
Gruessle, please do your homework BEFORE posting things like this. There are people out there who still depend on this phone to operate as it is their only phone. I Personally cannot afford to go spend $100-200 on a replacement phone if this one goes down (thats why I have 2 of them). If you post something that does not work on the platform that you say it will, please correct it or move it to the proper forum.
BTW, I call shenannegans on one of the 5-star votes... just sayin'.
Your kernel have fake ;/ . rom works great ;D
sorry for bad english;p
PoXFreak said:
Ok, quick "bug report":
After working with the kernel pack multiple times I have come to the conclusion that there might be a bug in the actual kernel file itself, throwing a code back to HardSPL and RUU (how I install).
I first noticed a problem in that the kernel was originally set up for a Polaris and had no resolution set. The size of the file should be unimportant as Scoot's newer kernel is in the order of 3.2-3.3MB in size (with the RIL patch installed it gets even larger), this one is 3,099KB, and l1q1d's is almost always 3,092KB.
The second issue I noticed is with the Froyo package itself... It's split up into many files (open the package in 7zip and you'll see what I mean). Normally, the packer has the files all listed inside the .tgz file, this one has the files inside many other files.
I have thus not installed the system on either phone because (correct me if I'm wrong), the kernel contains the basic directories for where everything is installed, and if I were to try and install this package on say, l1q1d's kernel, the phone would most likely crash because the files would not be found, including /system.
If ANYONE wants to dig deeper into this problem, feel free to message me. Personally, I think we've about finished getting all we can from the Kaiser, and much respect goes out to those who have done all the work in the past, but there's always that glimmer of hope that someone will find a way to pack this into a working rom installable through RUU or HardSPL.
I have one last thing to say:
Gruessle, please do your homework BEFORE posting things like this. There are people out there who still depend on this phone to operate as it is their only phone. I Personally cannot afford to go spend $100-200 on a replacement phone if this one goes down (thats why I have 2 of them). If you post something that does not work on the platform that you say it will, please correct it or move it to the proper forum.
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1) The kernel doesn't care where you place the files. Right now I use a debian system with Ferora and Gentoo in a chroot. Both work fine with the Debian kernel.
In other words, if you have a kernel that works for you then use that it should work with the rest of the installation.
2) I don't get what you mean with files are "split up into many files", I am just guessing but you must be extracting it wrong. Maybe it's a windows thing, I haven't used windows in 15 years so I wouldn't be able to help you with that.
3) I have included everything you need to duplicate what I got, which works for me, and it appears to work for others too. Now i don't use that phone much, and there might be bugs I am unaware of, but don't tell me it doesn't work at all, just because you can't get it to work.
barmalini said:
Gruessle, thanks for your efforts! I want to try your rom but being a noob waiting for more comprehensive list of known errors before flashing it to my kaiser.
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barmalini, it appears that a few people have trouble installing the Kernel, but the ROM seams to work for everybody as far as I can tell.
According to my server records the files have been downloaded over 200 times and I have yet to hear a complain about the ROM.
So I would say try to install the Kernel, but if you can't still use the ROM with a Kernel that works for you.
If you have trouble installing from windows you can also try a live CD from debian or knoppix. I installed everything from a Debian system. (Knoppix is based on Debian)
If you don't know what a live CD is then go here for info:
http://wiki.debian.org/LiveCD
PoXFreak said:
Installed HardSPL 3.34 and a WinMo 6.1 rom (custom) to see whats wrong. Installed L1q1d's kernel and goes right in like it should.
Checked .NBH with NBHCreator and only found 1 thing wrong: kernel set to Eclair instead of Froyo. Changed to Froyo and saved, attempted reflash and still won't go in...
;(Losted);
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PoXFreak,
you are not the only one having trouble, installing the ROM it appears.
I am wondering, are you also using Microsoft Windows to install the ROM?
If so can you try again with Linux, because it worked fine for me.
If you don't have Linux you can use a Live CD
Also if you can't get it to work, try the ROM with a Kernel that works for you.
Please report, I will check back.