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Hi,
in about two weeks i'll be travelling to London.
As i hopefully get my Desire this week, i've wondered if there was a way to get any satellite maps (or even google maps) to work offline.
Connecting to the internet would be pretty expensive (roaming), so it would be great if i could download the City Map for London on my device and then just use it offline.
Does Google Maps currently offers a possibility to save the cached data? Or are there any good Apps for that?
What's with google navigator? Possible to download maps there?
Thanks in advance
fooXeh
I've never tried (Still waiting for my desire) but i was already checking for some handy apps to do this and found MapDroyd. Just google it (i can't post urls)
Seems it's exactly what u need but maybe there are others apps out there
Thanks,
just looked at Mapdroyd, looks nice.
Not as good as a Offline Google Maps but should do the thing.
- www.mapdroyd.com/
Any other suggestions?
If you download the patch to let you use google nav, (search this forum) it will save the route to your phone, so you dont require data.
This clearly only works if you dont re-route.
Fon22
Look at either Sygic or Co-pilot. Also see the threads that mention them in the Themes and Apps folder. I use Sygic and like it a lot.
I don't need a full navigation software, just want to browse the Satellite map for underground stations, sightseeing stuff and so on.
I'd never dare to drive a car in England, you guys drive on the wrong side of the street
I will wait for this:
http://aura.sygic.com/
3D map ftw!
It is the next product from Sygic.
In the meantime, probably I will buy Co-Pilot, cheaper
norm2002 said:
Look at either Sygic or Co-pilot. Also see the threads that mention them in the Themes and Apps folder. I use Sygic and like it a lot.
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Still, those are all full navigation softwares.
Any free, non-navigation alternatives besides MapDroyd?
I did read somewhere recently on some official Google forum a thread about offline use of Google Maps. A Google employee posted a response along the lines of Google being aware of this requirement amongst the user community and something might be in the works. But not to hold our breaths.
Edit: Found it:
h**p://w w w.google.co.uk/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3634773013544912&hl=en&fid=363477301354491200047ea68ef31c45&hltp=2
Look half way down the page at the "Best Answer" from Thom dated 3rd February 2010, which says:
Best answer - Thom (Google Employee)
Hi all,
Thanks for your thoughtful comments. The reason I haven't replied directly to this thread is that I and my forum colleagues don't comment on the future availability or functionality for any Google products, including Navigation. That said, the development team and I are very, very aware of the desire to have an "offline" mode for Google Maps Navigation. We're currently exploring options about how to provide a better experience when in limited or no data coverage areas, so please look for changes to Navigation in the future. Thanks for understanding.
Best,
Tom
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I did a quick google search for you and found this.
http://www.nutiteq.com/
It does offline viewing of streetview maps and wont break the bank at 2 euros.
looks nice, nicer than mapdroyd, thx
I can live without custom ringtones, bluetooth file transfer, and sideloaded apps. However turn by turn navigation is a must. I have spent 3 days trawling the net for when and if we will get a working sat nav program. Obviously Navigon Select has an option for Deutsch Telekom, as does TeleNav for T-Mob and AT&T. When will these apps appear to the buying user....nobody knows. Bing Navigation has been rumoured as a free option since WP7's release, yet there is no info beyond its release for WinMo early last year.
Anyone got any new information on SatNav for the general user, as obviously sideloading the above apps is a NoGo for NoDo!
A-to-B works for me.
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A-to-B works for me.
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Wish it did for me, seems fine for the US, not to great in Europe
But how to build a turn by turn app if the api for the compass is not available?
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No news for any real GPS based navigation with maps loaded etc.
All those ones incl. A-to-B are based on mobile data so in a real life they are useless, whether you enter any worse coverage area or especially roaming.
And it doesn't look like it will change soon.
Compass API isn't necessary for turn-by-turn navigation, it can serve as an enhancement (and more so on paper than in real life).
Regarding Navigon, I've read somewhere that they have an exclusivity agreement with T-Mo Germany till summer. Don't know how reliable the source is, but the info sounds reasonable.
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No news for any real GPS based navigation with maps loaded etc.
All those ones incl. A-to-B are based on mobile data so in a real life they are useless, whether you enter any worse coverage area or especially roaming.
And it doesn't look like it will change soon.
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The route is actually calculated at the start, so only the tiles don't download if you lose signal meaning you can actually carry on with the route.
Casey
have any of you tried "Outdoor Navigation"?
http://www.wpcentral.com/outdoor-navigation-now-offers-offline-maps
I personally haven't, but could be promising?
These programs are nice but as I said, they require internet connection to be really used so they can't be really considered as full navgation programs.
But XMaps are amazing BTW.
The only real one is Nacigon select from T-Mobile Deutschlad.
If you are the adventurous type the .xap is very probably *cough* out there somewhere. But don't be tempted it's illegal you know?
Tuts how to add non German maps (If you own them!) are in the Dev forum
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It was asked a while back on the windows phone radio podcast and they said that they are trying to improve bing in europe before releasing a bing maps. Now with the nokia deal, I think they are going to integrate bing and ovimaps and get something released. Probably be late this year at the earliest.
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These programs are nice but as I said, they require internet connection to be really used so they can't be really considered as full navgation programs.
But XMaps are amazing BTW.
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If you're using A-to-B and you drive through a mobile deadzone, all that happens is the map data for that area doesn't load. You still see your planned route overlaid on blank grey terrain, and you still get your directions on-screen, the only thing is you can't see other side-roads etc.
It actually works sufficiently well. and the biggest benefit, of course, is that you don't need to purchase maps, nor provide oodles of storage on the phone for those maps, and the maps are always bang up-to-date as well.
It would be nice to have voiced directions and auto-recalc, but as it is, for a free app, A-to-B works pretty damn well, with or without a signal.
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Enjoy =)
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Very good idea to link to a site well known for supporting piracy. Duh.
Jim Coleman said:
If you're using A-to-B and you drive through a mobile deadzone, all that happens is the map data for that area doesn't load. You still see your planned route overlaid on blank grey terrain, and you still get your directions on-screen, the only thing is you can't see other side-roads etc.
It actually works sufficiently well. and the biggest benefit, of course, is that you don't need to purchase maps, nor provide oodles of storage on the phone for those maps, and the maps are always bang up-to-date as well.
It would be nice to have voiced directions and auto-recalc, but as it is, for a free app, A-to-B works pretty damn well, with or without a signal.
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Yes as for free app and lack of possibilities on WP7 it's quite OK. Those guys do a great job.
Appears to be the first WP7 app with voice navigation (just included in the new update). Has anyone tried it out after this new update? I'm wondering how good it is.
I'm also wondering if anyone knows what kind of approximate rate charges are involved with the use of this or other similar GPS apps (ex. 10Mb per hour).
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Has anyone tried it out after this new update? I'm wondering how good it is.
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It can't be good by default: it uses your 3G data connection and Bing maps so it slow, inaccurate and pricey (if you exceed your data plan).
BTW, any (including most wanted to hack Navigon) currently existing WP7 gps apps a complete BS even compared with cheapest $30 standalone auto gps. My suggestion: don't try to use any of 'em in big city (like a Boston), all of 'em bad and can cost you a troubles.
So, WP7 still doesn't have gps solution at all Damn MS with closed sources & API's...
Closed Sources have nothing to do with this, and the APIs aren't closed. They just either don't exist or are hidden so deeply that developers cannot access them (Microsoft does use Native Code for much of WP7, even though 3rd party developers can not).
Also, Bing is fine in a big city like Chicago. I know because I went there with my WM6.5 device a while back and the voice nav was very much on point. Stop spreading FUD. Bing has holes in other countries, but in the US is quite good...
FYI, I'm not flooding but just publish my own impressions based on my own real experience. I've especially tried all existing solutions working in Boston (last attempt was yesterday, riding to Somerville). All these applications working very bad: no construction info at all, wrong routes, bad accuracy, awful UI. Navigon shows a little better result but still no comparison with my TomTom XL 335SE (costs me a $29.99 + tax on huge local sale) at all!
I don't know which criteria is "fine" for you (may be it's just "Oh my God, it works and showing something on map!") but it's absolutely not affordable for me (I do have an experience and example to compare).
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It can't be good by default: it uses your 3G data connection and Bing maps so it slow, inaccurate and pricey (if you exceed your data plan).
BTW, any (including most wanted to hack Navigon) currently existing WP7 gps apps a complete BS even compared with cheapest $30 standalone auto gps. My suggestion: don't try to use any of 'em in big city (like a Boston), all of 'em bad and can cost you a troubles.
So, WP7 still doesn't have gps solution at all Damn MS with closed sources & API's...
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1) You haven't even tried the app suggested by OP. Please don't pass judgement. I am sure developer is doing his best. Try it... if you still don't like it.. fair enough.
2) I will beg to differ about bing being inaccurate than likes of google. Navteq maps have always worked much better than teleatlas in US.
3) APIs are there and more are APIs are coming with Mango. Open or closed source has nothing to do with it.
I use A&B . But I did give this nav app a try. On the trial it only sets routes within a 4 mile radious but thats because it's the trial. Now indicators for speed and sistance sits on the top on map and it's rather small and hard to see at a glance. Where as on A&B it's on the side and much larger and easyer to see at the glance.
The maps about the same. as A&B overall the interface UI on A&B is much better. it's really a shame that WP7 does not have a full blown Nav app. I would much rather be able to download the maps and have it always on route even when I'm out of range of towers.
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Appears to be the first WP7 app with voice navigation (just included in the new update). Has anyone tried it out after this new update? I'm wondering how good it is.
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Forget it. It's based on Bing Maps, so totally crap and inaccurate anyway (except if you live in the US).
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1) You haven't even tried the app suggested by OP. Please don't pass judgement. I am sure developer is doing his best. Try it... if you still don't like it.. fair enough.
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Did you read my post above? Seems like not. I don't judge anyone either, just posted my own opinion.
Nothing wrong with this application. No mapping software has 100% map accuracy, always takes time to update maps. Within the trial limitations I found the journey I planned was accurate with routing and location, but could improve the featureset.
Not sure there's too much to complain about for $3 and obviously anyone not on an unlimited data plan shouldnt be looking at offline navigation applications.
Thanks guys. I agree and I have a Garmin. I'm very upset that there's no map based GPS's out as of now, since I'm on a limited data plan. I was just curious. If it was a really good app, it might be worth to use in the event that I need it in an emergency. If it's no better than A-B though, why bother. Thanks for the input guys.
Message from the developer
Hi guys,
I´m the developer of Silver Navigator. Thanks a lot for your comments.
Any question or suggestion is really welcome.
SN do not pretend to be a perfect replacement for full GPS navigation devices like TomTom, etc, but I think for the price it´s a very useful option, when no TomTom is available.
In addition to that, it´s able to calculate your aprox. position from cell tower triangulation, pretty useful when no GPS reception is available. I´m also already adapting it to Mango (next release of Windows Phone), which will include digital compass and a much more precise calculation of position and orientation. It works perfectly, and it´s particularly useful for navigation when walking, as you don´t need to move to know what direction you are headed.
Later this week, I´m releasing v 1.2, which includes many more improvements. Among others:
Local Searches (business, shops, etc), improved user interface, "clear route" function included, improved GPS accuracy, voices volume increased, etc.
You can follow SN progress at Facebook. Just search for "Silver Navigator".
Thanks !!!!
Needs orientation via the compass, ie like tomtom, google nav, in order to be useful while driving.
As it is its unusable while in a car unfortunately.
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In addition to that, it´s able to calculate your aprox. position from cell tower triangulation, pretty useful when no GPS reception is available.
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How about "no cell tower reception" (for me it's happened much more frequently; GPS signal is available everywhere except downtowns with skyscrapers)? And did you tested your app with cell tower triangulation in places like a downtowns of big cities?
I just tried it this morning (Birmingham UK)
I have a good data connection but the map downloading is way too slow to be used for driving. All I had was a yellow arrow against a blurry background.
It could really do with being able to cache map data possibly via WiFi before you set off to avoid these issues.
Also the screen was North up instead of being track up and the unfortunately the quality of the speech/instructions was very poor.
But it does work and apart from buying Navigon this is the only other real sat nav application for WP7. I have seen posts for A-to-B but you cant download from the marketplace so hopefully it will improve.
It seems that when mango is released that more turn-by-turn apps will come out.
Nice
I have used this for a month now and like it. I suggest that the triangle indicating the cars position point in the direction and orientation of the phone, and that there be an option for the display to point either north or in the direction of travel. Just a suggestion to improve an already good application.
This really does look to be one of the better nav programs available right now. I'd by this if it had support for 3d view much like tomtom, navigon, magellen etc. A - B had this and it was by far the best angle to get directions in when driving.
Any plans on adding this feature and if so is there a timeline?
Can I be really picky and ask for a slicker looking tile?
@ GraphicDNA
Very nice work..!
will do you a view 3D with this program of style A to B..?
maybe a multilanguage too..?
Just heard from the developers of Drive on.... they arent implementing the 3D driving mode for at least 4 months... here's hoping Silver Nav gets it WAY sooner!
INTRODUCTORY SPECIAL OFFER - COPILOT LIVE PREMIUM 50% OFF FOR 7 DAYS ONLY
As it says special offer i just paid £12.49 for UK and Ireland version via the Android market .
jje
Thanks for the heads up. Could anyone explain the difference between Premium and the normal one?
Anyone know how this compares to navigon?
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JJEgan said:
INTRODUCTORY SPECIAL OFFER - COPILOT LIVE PREMIUM 50% OFF FOR 7 DAYS ONLY
As it says special offer i just paid £12.49 for UK and Ireland version via the Android market .
jje
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Thanks for the heads up. Any differences you noticed compared to "regular" version?
Save your money and buy something that's worth it. CoPilot is worst navigation system I have ever seen!
I bought the full European version for £29.99 instead of £60.
It does annoy me that the USA Version is only £2 for Standard and £6 for Premium!
Navigon is a sack of sh1t compared to this (IMHO).
Each to their own, personally I think it rocks and for the money you cannot complain!
I bought CoPilot v8 at the beginning of May, when I got my S2. It cost me just over £20.
ALK have confirmed there is no upgrade path and all they will provide existing users (along with everyone else) is this 7 day, 50% discount.
After having a quick look at what this new 'Premium' versions offers, I think I'll be saving my money and wait for v10.
A reviewer wrote:
Stick with V8. Glad this wasn’t an upgrade!! V9 seems to have forgotten what SATNAV is for. Suggested routes are ridiculous. Every route needs editing, not good when at the roadside and all you want is to get from A-B. No routing prefs Shortest, Quickest etc. Road prefs if not on neutral make things worse. No town\city location display. Often looses gps fix. Display on Wildfire has grey pixelated areas and chopped off icons. ‘Not fit for purpose’ in many areas. Needs to be fixed – quick or Refund please!
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I will be honest i have yet to use any Sat Nav as i have yet to need one .
I know where i am going and dont get lost .Its there a s a maybe just in case .
jje
Anybody know if map updates are free (and for how long time)?
Does Copilot Live Premium support Danish menus and voice?
Thanks
Mittaa said:
Anybody know if map updates are free (and for how long time)?
Does Copilot Live Premium support Danish menus and voice?
Thanks
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Maps for the region your purchased are free. E.g. I bought UK and Ireland version (those maps are free). I can additionally purchase maps for other regions (e.g. Western Europe).
Regarding the voice, screenshot attached.
Overall this version is great. The UI is epic compared to the last version.
nobnut said:
Maps for the region your purchased are free. E.g. I bought UK and Ireland version (those maps are free). I can additionally purchase maps for other regions (e.g. Western Europe).
Regarding the voice, screenshot attached.
Overall this version is great. The UI is epic compared to the last version.
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Thanks a lot
I have been told that maps update should be free for 1 year.
Found a thread in Androidforums with a very useful user reviews of Copilot Live Premium ... scroll down to post from jalan94
http://androidforums.com/android-applications/363484-copilot-live-premium-released.html
Mittaa said:
Thanks a lot
I have been told that maps update should be free for 1 year.
Found a thread in Androidforums with a very useful user reviews of Copilot Live Premium ... scroll down to post from jalan94
http://androidforums.com/android-applications/363484-copilot-live-premium-released.html
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That is a very fair review I would say.
As for the maps, that may be true, I am not sure, but I don't believe it is. I think the cost of the Copilot app includes the maps.
There are additonal 'bolt ons' available within v9.0 which cost extra. I have paid for Traffic (£9.99 per annum), I would have paid for Fuel Prices (4.99 per annum) but it is not available in the UK presently.
The best part for me is the upgraded registration process. In v8.0 it was a nightmare and if you wanted to change from one device to another, it could quite literally make your brain bleed. It is easy in v9.0.
Overall, I am very happy, I am just jealous that I do not live in the US where this is extremely cheap. The cost of maps must be less for Copilot over there I guess.
Someone told me that CoPilot do not integrate with Android Contact
This should mean that it isn't possible to invoke navigation from an Contact address ... is this a fact (or a joke)?
If you're talking about selecting a contact in Android's Contacts app & navigating to it via CoPilot, that doesn't seem to be an option -- instead of opening CoPilot, it takes you into Google Maps. It may be the case that Android doesn't provide the hooks to allow third-party apps to be called from within their Contacts app; Google wrote the OS, so they set the rules.
However, you can select your Android contacts from within CoPilot.
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If you're talking about selecting a contact in Android's Contacts app & navigating to it via CoPilot, that doesn't seem to be an option -- instead of opening CoPilot, it takes you into Google Maps. It may be the case that Android doesn't provide the hooks to allow third-party apps to be called from within their Contacts app; Google wrote the OS, so they set the rules.
However, you can select your Android contacts from within CoPilot.
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Android do provide the hooks to allow third-party apps to be called from within their Contacts app. IGO My Way is one confirmed example.
Is Copilot as good or reliable as tomtom? Tbh, I still find myself using my htc touch diamond for satnav since it has tomtom navigator on it. Honestly, all the other satnavs around are crap from what I've tried. They all have some fancy features or graphics which are nice or better in some way (like I use google satnav sometimes and it speaks actual road names which is cool, but no speed camera warnings) but overall, tomtom is the only one I trust and feel comfortable with and which holds my hand down every road. Can't wait till tomtom hits android.
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Is Copilot as good or reliable as tomtom? Tbh, I still find myself using my htc touch diamond for satnav since it has tomtom navigator on it. Honestly, all the other satnavs around are crap from what I've tried. They all have some fancy features or graphics which are nice or better in some way (like I use google satnav sometimes and it speaks actual road names which is cool, but no speed camera warnings) but overall, tomtom is the only one I trust and feel comfortable with and which holds my hand down every road. Can't wait till tomtom hits android.
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I know how you feel ... I'm on my way to France on a 2x1800 km trip ...
Hate all this Facebook/Twitter **** on Copilot Live Premium, and just hope the navigation part will work!
IGO8 on Windows Mobile is the best satnav I ever have used, so I'll take my old Windows Mobile phone with me in case Copilot let me down.
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Android do provide the hooks to allow third-party apps to be called from within their Contacts app. IGO My Way is one confirmed example.
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Thanks for the correction -- good to know that. I've been on Android for only a month or so, after having used WinMo since Windows CE 1.0 back in 1996.
BTW, I've seen several people mention IGO My Way on Android. However, I can't find any reference to it on Android Market, nor can I find an Android version on the IGO website. How does one get the software?
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Thanks for the correction -- good to know that. I've been on Android for only a month or so, after having used WinMo since Windows CE 1.0 back in 1996.
BTW, I've seen several people mention IGO My Way on Android. However, I can't find any reference to it on Android Market, nor can I find an Android version on the IGO website. How does one get the software?
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Problems - just me?
Hello all
I'm having real problems with mine at the moment. It locks up constantly usually when a planning a route but often when navigating and sometimes it hangs the phone too.
Mine's a very standard installation, not rooted and the phone is stable otherwise.
It might just be me but if not I'd say it's a long way from being release worthy.
Hi!
I want to know some advice aboult Navigation APP.
I tryed Sygic, but i realy dont like it.
just tell me the APP name, i will serach if it have maps to my country.
Thank you guys!
Ndrive 11 simple, easy to use and great maps
google maps?
I've just switched from Sygic to Copilot, and finding it a huge improvement - wish I'd done it before.
Thank you guys. I will give a try.
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My favourite on both the S2 and iPhone is Navigon.
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Co-Pilot. Have tried a number over the years. Co-Pilot is not the cheapest available today, but definitely worth the outlay. Fast for routing, re-routing, good clear maps, good screen set up,good clear voice direction and quite modifiable to personal tastes.
Umi
Navigon
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tried few navi apps but for me google navi is still the best
Jep Navigon is the best one in my opinion.
free_umi said:
Co-Pilot. Have tried a number over the years. Co-Pilot is not the cheapest available today, but definitely worth the outlay. Fast for routing, re-routing, good clear maps, good screen set up,good clear voice direction and quite modifiable to personal tastes.
Umi
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I am trying Co-Pilot, but having problems!
It works fine, finds plenty of satellites (even indoors) but when I run it in the car, the screen saver switches it off
Is there a fix for this?
Thanks
try ZANavi from the android market. the application is free, and works pretty good
IGO is pretty good too. Can you tell me guys about any other gps app with a detailed map of Romania except google maps?
Happy Easter to everybody!
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I use Samsung Navigator and I really like it.
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I use Samsung Navigator and I really like it.
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I'm using Co-Pilot Live Premium.
First version had a lot of bugs and it was difficult getting in touch with the company.
But it's slowly getting better and better
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From where did you get Samsung Navigator.
On Garmin's homepage they claim that the product is discontinued...
And what about updating maps?
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Mittaa said:
From where did you get Samsung Navigator.
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Right here: http://surl.dk/aib/
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Right here: http://surl.dk/aib/
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What did you pay for on screen directions?
Samsung Navigator is an award-winning navigation app with maps and search function. Wisepilot is very flexible and you choose how you want to use it.
- You can just use the free functions, for example. search, map, directions and sharing.
- Or you can extend the experience with additional features that can be purchased via the app, eg. navigation message every time you turn, and information about speed cameras. Prices depend on the time period.
Mittaa said:
What did you pay for on screen directions?
Samsung Navigator is an award-winning navigation app with maps and search function. Wisepilot is very flexible and you choose how you want to use it.
- You can just use the free functions, for example. search, map, directions and sharing.
- Or you can extend the experience with additional features that can be purchased via the app, eg. navigation message every time you turn, and information about speed cameras. Prices depend on the time period.
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Not yet all was/(is?) free for six months.
jellywobbles said:
I am trying Co-Pilot, but having problems!
It works fine, finds plenty of satellites (even indoors) but when I run it in the car, the screen saver switches it off
Is there a fix for this?
Thanks
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In CoPilot's Settings dialog, under Power Saving, select "Always on" for the backlight option.
google is pretty good !! only thing missing imo is redlight and speedcamera warning