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Is this the phone to get?

I currently have a Samsung Fascinate and planning to selling it because of lack of some features in Froyo and probably future updates in general.
Is this the phone to get as in terms of software development progress? (In verizon of course). Or is Droid 2 or X good as well? (not liking the X because it's too big).
I don't play games whatsoever on this phone. TBh, most important feature is just getting things done very quickly; Music, E-Mail, Browsing, GPS, SMS/MMS.
Thank you.

Nah, this isn't the phone to get. Verizon has a Powerhouse lineup coming out very soon including the thunderbolt and an LG smartphone ( and the iPhone, being announced tomorrow ).
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Of course I'm a little bias but yes, I think as of now this is the phone to have. The development community rocks, and it is a very quick phone. Now there are some awesome phones on the horizon; the HTC Thunderbolt, and the Moto Droid Bionic. But considering you can get a DInc at Best Buy for free (with a new contract or available upgrade of course) it is a sweet deal. As far as what's currently out I haven't checked the Droid 2 forums but I did check out the X just to see how it was coming, and it's nothing compared to what we have over here. Just my 2 cents, take it for what it's worth.

hkseo100 said:
Is this the phone to get as in terms of software development progress? (In verizon of course). Or is Droid 2 or X good as well? (not liking the X because it's too big).
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You said "(In verizon of course)." Are you thinking of running the stock ROM? Or plan to root and run some of the great ROMs the devs here put out?
Since you said 'Verizon', makes me think you're planning to run stock. If so, beware that even the Thunderbolt is shipping with Froyo. My guess is we won't see Gingerbread (officially) until spring or summer.
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thank you everyone for your reply!
I meant Verizon as in, I am restricted to phones that Verizon carries. I don't really stay stock, if I do, I'd at least have a ULV Kernel.
If I sell this now, I'll need to use a dumb phone until whatever phone I need comes out. I wonder if I can order the iPhone tomorrow on the website... kind of tempting.
Anyway, thanks everyone!

hkseo100 said:
thank you everyone for your reply!
I meant Verizon as in, I am restricted to phones that Verizon carries. I don't really stay stock, if I do, I'd at least have a ULV Kernel.
If I sell this now, I'll need to use a dumb phone until whatever phone I need comes out. I wonder if I can order the iPhone tomorrow on the website... kind of tempting.
Anyway, thanks everyone!
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I own both the Fascinate and the Incredible. I'd buy another Incredible over any other Verizon phone if I had to buy today. If I could wait I'd buy the Thunderbolt.

Im waiting for the bionic
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When are these coming out? I don't want to be without one of these things for more than a month or so...
The choice is basically Incredible, D2G, or D2X ($50, $150, $120 respectively from Amazon to upgrade on my brothers upgrade eligible line) if the iPhone reallyy comes out tomorrow, I'd have to think about this all over again -.-

hkseo100 said:
When are these coming out? I don't want to be without one of these things for more than a month or so...
The choice is basically Incredible, D2G, or D2X ($50, $150, $120 respectively from Amazon to upgrade on my brothers upgrade eligible line) if the iPhone reallyy comes out tomorrow, I'd have to think about this all over again -.-
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iPhone will be February at the soonest. It's being announced tomorrow

Personally it was the only choice for me. I think many of the new phones are getting toooooo big. Tho phone is the perfect size for me. If is also very very fast. I still have to get use to the screen keyboard. All my old phones had a keyboard. But that is not too bad.
So, my vote is yes. The size and speed makes it he best phone I have played with.
Thanks SoBBie
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Out of the phones you mentioned I would get an inc. Locked bootloaders + laggy stuttering stock launchers on motoblur devices make mad. Sense (especially the new sense) just feels really solid and polished
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There is a thread I made that shows all the ROMs (that are up to date with development) to show how awesome our dev community is. The incredible is an awesome phone. I am moving to the iPhone because I've wanted one since I switched to VZW, but if you want to stay with android and you are in the sub-4" market... go with the incredible. It is the heat.
The thread I mentioned is at the top of the droid incredible development page, as a sticky.

Ok so iPhone announced preorders begin Feb 3rd releases Feb 10th, if you want to stay Android get the Thunderbolt, Motorola does a horrible job with android phones and the Droid and Droid X community's are dead, if you get an Incredible your getting us, the great community but you could be getting the 4g LTE with the thunderbolt. In conclusion YOUR BETTER OFF GETTING THE THUNDERBOLT!
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What is the deal with upgrades at January 16th?
I have the discount pricing for additional family line (my little brother) available for use, that's why I was considering the 3 phones because they're not that pricey at Amazon.com or Newegg.com with contract.
Bloody hell, I would be stuck with a dumbphone until those new phones come out.. and I heard Verizon might do a more expensive plan for 4G phones?

lol iphone,, um negative.. hell im gonna leave verizon.. tired of paying out the arse.. lol gonna go to virgin mobile.. ( samsung intercept ) <----ya i know but for 27 bucks a month its worth it.. not to mention still have my DINC to play with over wifi...
I realized I didnt use alot of junk outside of facebook. last.f.m. and a few other apps. so the intercept will work just fine.. and still have 3g service..

hkseo100 said:
What is the deal with upgrades at January 16th?
I have the discount pricing for additional family line (my little brother) available for use, that's why I was considering the 3 phones because they're not that pricey at Amazon.com or Newegg.com with contract.
Bloody hell, I would be stuck with a dumbphone until those new phones come out.. and I heard Verizon might do a more expensive plan for 4G phones?
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I'm sure 4G would cost more.. it is 8x faster... but only 1/3 of their 3G is covered with 4G.. do us without have to pay.. if so, **** that. ill get a fascinate to be my play around phone then lol. 4g isn't that important to me, either is 2.3, nor 3.0.. i had 1.5 on my eris that was rock solid. ever since that freak hype for 2.1 it has ruined it for me. I will never let myself get that excited for an update again, esp considering how long that wait was for what felt like nothing. I think that is what the Thunderbolt is gunna be like, since 2/3 of the 3g population won't have 4g service it will basically be an incredible with a 4.3 screen, stand, sound, and second gen snapdragon or whatever.

supersobbie said:
Personally it was the only choice for me. I think many of the new phones are getting toooooo big. Tho phone is the perfect size for me. If is also very very fast. I still have to get use to the screen keyboard. All my old phones had a keyboard. But that is not too bad.
So, my vote is yes. The size and speed makes it he best phone I have played with.
Thanks SoBBie
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Same here.

i went from the fascinate to the Dinc for the same reasons you did, and couldn't be happier. There just wasn't a solid DEV community for that phone.. coming to the DINC was night and day.. so many choices, so much support.. I run the MIUI ROM and love it..

I left the D2 for the Incredible and have zero regrets. If you want to have custom ROMs and kernels, you have to stick with HTC. X/2 ROMs are really hamstrung by the locked bootloader.
The development scene on the Incredible is great and probably as good as it will get on Verizon for the foreseeable future. The Thunderbolt will get custom ROMs and kernels just the same, but public sentiment seems to indicate it won't be as popular - meaning a slightly smaller development community (though perhaps Incredible and EVO ports will be relatively simple).
All that said, I'm probably going to jump on the Thunderbolt the day its released

I love the inc, but i would also wait.
I would actually wait until I see a phone that has the dev support/community like the Inc.
For me, where the dev support goes is where I go.

[Q] Upgrade to EVO yes/no poll

There are a couple of threads on this out there, but I wanted to make a Poll.
So, right now I'm using my old HTC Hero with CM 6.1, and I love it. Rooting my phone made me fall in love with my smartphone all over again (it's my first smartphone).
So for those of you Sprint people, they told me that I can upgrade right now or when my contract is up, it won't matter: I will get the Evo for $200 with a new contract.
Before we dive in, do you know if this is really the cheapest option from Sprint? I am aware I could probably just buy an Evo from Ebay or something of the sort, but I'm a bit worried about doing that. Anyone has experience getting Evo somewhere else and can share?
I use my phone for a lot of things.. internet, calling, texting, games, even as a flashlight sometimes. I got myself an extra battery for this phone but I assume I will need a new one for the EVO. I see people asked about battery life, but seriously, I don't expect my phone to stay alive for more than 8 hours or so with all these apps running.
Next, what I like about the EVO is the better camera, and the fact that it has flash (I use my phone for pictures). Front facing camera is nice, haven't used it before, is it really worth it? Is chatting with it smooth, or is it slow as sh*t?
Keyboard - I used to hate the touch keyboard because it would freeze for split seconds and writing something would be frustrating. I still find it annoying to use the touch screen for typing because the buttons are so small. I have a feeling the evo would help with that, but perhaps I should wait for something with a real keyboard? Anyone knows of a good model that's suppose to come out, and when?
4G - I live in New York city. Anyone from around here knows if 4G is really available, or it just exists in very specific locations? Is it much faster? How do you like the fact that you can maintain data connection while making a call, is it a big deal? I don't barely actually use my phone for talking. I count on Gchat and texting.
Speed - There are speed issues with my phone right, especially when I run intense apps (angry birds is very choppy, for example, and Pandora can hang the entire system up), does the Evo take care of that?
Size - It's a big phone. To be honest, the weight and the size do not attract me, but I do realize that a bigger screen will be better to work with and might aid with the keyboard issue. Thoughts?
Rooting - How hard is it? I think CM runs on the EVO if memory serves right. I Rooted my Hero so I assume doing it to the EVO would not be much harder. Thoughts?
So yeah, these are some points I'm considering. Should I get it? And is there a cheaper (good!) way to get it?
Thanks for reading!

you posted in evo forum, expect biased answers, that said
you will love an evo! I had a hero first, still do. the batteries are the same,
the keyboard on the hero wasn't very accurate so typing was frustrating, on the evo it is splendid,
rooting is a breeze with unrevoked
no slowdowns at all for any apps, in any situation, I've been downloading while streaming pandora and playing games with no issue,
I highly recommend it, the evo changed the way I think of smartphones

I would wait to the end of march and see what sprint announces
Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO

I would wait as well. Some new phones should be coming out shortly
Sent from my Evo while i should be working

I doubt an Evo 2 will come out anytime soon. So yes. The new phone coming out is most likely the HTC Arrive, which is the HTC 7 Pro. That aside, the Evo is just f*cking awesome. Also for individual line upgrade, Amazon says $180 with free 2-day shipping: http://wireless.amazon.com/dp/B003N9B3CY

CTIA is soon. Sprint announces new phones at CTIA. So I would wait. Unless you want to buy one off contract on Ebay.

WAIT for something better.. This bad ass brick will soon be replaced and become just a plain old acme brick soon

I have a bad feeling Sprint isn't gonna have much this year as far as Android devices go... we will see. An Evo 2 would be bad ass or a dual core Samsung.
Sent from my Evolutionized Evo!

I don't care if Samsung comes out with a quad-core phone. I'm not touching that **** after what happened with the Galaxy S line.

they better come out with something that will at least compete with others phones (like the droid x::evo) otherwise they will have many unhappy customers who cancel and leave... hell they charge $10 for a premium phone now, how premium will the HTC EVO be come this Spring? (I don't want to pay for a "premium phone" when its outdated)
anyways sorry for the semi rant.. im slightly upset with sprint and their actions right now.

CTIA is guaranteed to give us something good. I am hoping for a Galaxy S2 or something equivalent. But then again... Sprint has been known to let you down. Tough call.

masterfuel said:
they better come out with something that will at least compete with others phones (like the droid x::evo) otherwise they will have many unhappy customers who cancel and leave... hell they charge $10 for a premium phone now, how premium will the HTC EVO be come this Spring? (I don't want to pay for a "premium phone" when its outdated)
anyways sorry for the semi rant.. im slightly upset with sprint and their actions right now.
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You aren't paying $10 for a premium phone. You are paying the $10 for the premium data package, and All smartphones on the sprint network will be paying the exact same fee, its not isolated to the Evo, Shift, or Epic, it will encompass the blackberry's and all other android phones that sprint carries.

On topic of best deals for the EVO, check RadioShack's online wireless store. It's going for $149.99 with free activation on new/upgrade subs. Or in-store, they require a trade-in of any old working phone with a charger to get the $149.99 price (check with your local stores if the deal still available).
IMHO, with all the new phones coming out, I would wait. I love my Evo, but I wouldn't get locked into a new 2-yr sub on a phone that is around 4mos shy of being a year old.

I would wait. EVO is nice but nothing compared to what other carriers are getting (Optimus). Hold out for a dual core device (hopefully from HTC).
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Product F(RED) said:
I don't care if Samsung comes out with a quad-core phone. I'm not touching that **** after what happened with the Galaxy S line.
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I agree with this. Samsung left a bad taste with me after having my epic with GPS issues, dropped keys and no 2.2 (till just recently)
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heck yea its amazing i was skeptical too till i played with one

I love my Evo. That said I think it would work perfect for everything you listed except for one. The Evo's camera pretty much sucks.
I have a release day Evo, so maybe the newer ones are a little better, but unless the pictures I have taken were in bright daylight they are almost unusable.

http://www.studentrate.com/STUDENTR...deals/Sprint-Student-Rate-Member-Discount--/0
Not sure if studentrate still offers $69.99 Evos.
ATM The Evo is the best phone for Sprint. If you want to wait for something better you can. Personally this is the best phone I've ever used. While it is on par or a little worse than some of the newer phones coming out, its been a year and they are finally catching up.
You also have to take into consideration how much longer the Evo is going to stay ahead or on par with these phones. We might be seeing Gingerbread and Sense 2.0 but that might be a long shot.
If you aren't having any issues with your Hero, I'd say stick with it for a few more months. See what comes out.

Thank you everyone, for the honest opinions. I got a lot of info.
Well, it's about a month later now, and I'm still on my HTC Hero. I just found out about the $10 extra, which I will be paying if I upgrade. My girlfriend has a big family plan on T-mobile, and after calculations, it seems I will be saving about $20 a month using a phone under her name, on T-mobile.
Of course, this means I need to ditch Sprint. I don't feel too bad after being on the Network for a year and being charged for extra if I want to upgrade. No serious official updates for their phones either, thank god I rooted mine, the best thing I've ever done to it.
I checked the T-mobile 2G today, and wasn't that impressed. I liked the keyboard, but the specs are not as good as the EVO. By the way, what are these issues I'm hearing about the EVO's camera? it's 8MP, how come it's so bad? I only have 5mp now, and so does the 2G. What are the specific issues you guys are having?
Right now I am going to find out just how much it will cost me to get out of Sprint, and if it's worth it (buying a new phone on T-mobile will cost me $100 extra over an upgrade in Sprint). What are some of the good T-mobile phones you guys think are good? Camera with flash is important to me, and so does screen size - two things I really like about the EVO. I do want a big screen. I would also like a keyboard if possible.
Anything changed in the market? New amazing Spring phones I'm not aware of, or T-Mobile? I am specifically interested in HTC, I'm not a big fan of Samsung or Motorola.

beholder121 said:
Thank you everyone, for the honest opinions. I got a lot of info.
Well, it's about a month later now, and I'm still on my HTC Hero. I just found out about the $10 extra, which I will be paying if I upgrade. My girlfriend has a big family plan on T-mobile, and after calculations, it seems I will be saving about $20 a month using a phone under her name, on T-mobile.
Of course, this means I need to ditch Sprint. I don't feel too bad after being on the Network for a year and being charged for extra if I want to upgrade. No serious official updates for their phones either, thank god I rooted mine, the best thing I've ever done to it.
I checked the T-mobile 2G today, and wasn't that impressed. I liked the keyboard, but the specs are not as good as the EVO. By the way, what are these issues I'm hearing about the EVO's camera? it's 8MP, how come it's so bad? I only have 5mp now, and so does the 2G. What are the specific issues you guys are having?
Right now I am going to find out just how much it will cost me to get out of Sprint, and if it's worth it (buying a new phone on T-mobile will cost me $100 extra over an upgrade in Sprint). What are some of the good T-mobile phones you guys think are good? Camera with flash is important to me, and so does screen size - two things I really like about the EVO. I do want a big screen. I would also like a keyboard if possible.
Anything changed in the market? New amazing Spring phones I'm not aware of, or T-Mobile? I am specifically interested in HTC, I'm not a big fan of Samsung or Motorola.
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See: http://www.androidcentral.com/sprin...ils-leaked-expect-evo-3d-evo-view-4g-and-xoom
CTIA is this coming Tuesday. Sprint's presentation is hours long. I'd be sure to keep your eye out on here and other tech news sites for what Sprint announces. If that Evo 3D becomes a reality, I'd imagine anyone would want to hold out for that instead of acquiring the Evo now only to have the Evo 3D replace it in months.
Furthremore, if looking into T-Mobile and leaving Sprint (which, as a biased member, I would be against!), keep in mind that at 3:15 PM EDT, a merger between AT&T and T-Mobile was announced, the former acquiring the latter.

What's your next phone?

As the Incredible comes up on its birthday, I've started thinking about other phones to move to. The Thunderbolt is an obvious consideration, as well as the Incredible S. I'm assuming that both will be supported by ROM developers fairly - maybe not to the extent that the Inc is supported, but I think there will be a few choices.
I used another upgrade on my family plan to get the Incredible, so I have an upgrade waiting for whenever I find a phone that's compelling enough to upgrade to (or I break the Incredible...). The Thunderbolt is looking a little more appealing than the Incredible S now, especially because its only a little bit bigger and has 4g for the same data price as the Inc S (at least as i understand it... $30/mo for unlimited LTE, which I assume includes 3g as well?)
Just wondering what you guys had in mind in terms of upgrading. Thoughts?

I'm not planning on changing anytime soon, if they seriously work out a lot of the issues in the TB *maybe* but I doubt it.
The only reason I'd want to upgrade is for 4G, and it's going to be a year or 2 before it gets to my area. To be honest, 3G speeds are perfectly fine for me. Can stream youtube flawless as well as hulu. More speed the better, but no push for me to upgrade.

I think ill get the iPhone 6... JK, I'm on a 2yr contract with my Incredible started 4/29/2010 (got on launch day). So whatever is out in 2012 I guess. Hopefully my dinc will last another year. Surprised I haven't broken it yet.
But how do you go about upgrading to another phone out of contract? Like the thunderbolt, would I just pay the retail price in full (rumored @ $750) and keep the current contract?
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But how do you go about upgrading to another phone out of contract? Like the thunderbolt, would I just pay the retail price in full (rumored @ $750) and keep the current contract?
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Pretty much. I bought the Droid 2 when I came over to Verizon and after a few months bought an Incredible full price (the Droid 2 almost covered it via eBay). You just change your device on the website and it doesn't affect your contract.

Thunderbolt For Me!!!

It looks like a lot of devs are going towards the TB. That will probably be the biggest factor in my decision making.

I'll probably use this last annual upgrade to get the TB on a one year contract. With any luck, those getting the TB now will be grandfathered with the $29.99 unlimited LTE for future equipment upgrades.

I will likely upgrade on 1yr contract with TB also. I am not up for upgrade until August, but an account rep approved an early upgrade. The way things are shaping up, it really could be 3rd quarter before anything significantly better drops on VZW. At that point, I could sell the TB and buy the next great phone at retail.

Id just love to have gingerbread with sense, dont need a new phone as my dinc has been great since release date!
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I just couldn't imagine giving up my Dinc
Probably go with the TB when available... but I'll want to see teh DEV support before jumping ship...
The support on the Incredible has been... well.... Incredible

Thunderbolt. I'm not switching providers for a decent android phone.
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I just couldn't imagine giving up my Dinc
Probably go with the TB when available... but I'll want to see teh DEV support before jumping ship...
The support on the Incredible has been... well.... Incredible
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I have a DX and a DINC,
I honestly do not see much of a reason to upgrade just yet. with the exception of 4G and front facing cameras, these new phones are not exactly blowing the doors off of the previous models. I love my DINC, and I plan on waiting at least for a while until this winter/next spring..I'm hoping that by then the new phones will be a bit more of an upgrade.
Besides, I at least need to wait to see which devices will or will not have locked bootloaders.

gio2005 said:
I have a DX and a DINC,
I honestly do not see much of a reason to upgrade just yet. with the exception of 4G and front facing cameras, these new phones are not exactly blowing the doors off of the previous models. I love my DINC, and I plan on waiting at least for a while until this winter/next spring..I'm hoping that by then the new phones will be a bit more of an upgrade.
Besides, I at least need to wait to see which devices will or will not have locked bootloaders.
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Which phone do you prefer Incredible or X?
I just bought my Incredible a week ago, I love the dev support and how smooth the phone is, hate the battery life.
I really like the huge DX screen.... Not sure if it would be a good idea to trade.
Thanks

jenna728 said:
Which phone do you prefer Incredible or X?
I just bought my Incredible a week ago, I love the dev support and how smooth the phone is, hate the battery life.
I really like the huge DX screen.... Not sure if it would be a good idea to trade.
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The screen was nice and the size wasn't bad...but it can't touch the inc.
Stock it was loaded with so much bloat that it lagged horribly. There were some great roms for it though.
Overall my experience is that I had to rom my X to make it as fast as a stock inc.
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I'm waiting for an HTC Dual-Core phone. The TB isn't enough of an upgrade for me to leave the comfort of my beloved DINC. My dream would be for an HTC Tegra 2 phone but I know it will never happen due to HTC's relationship with Qualcomm. So something Pyramid-esq I'm guessing that'll be coming out this summer.

gio2005 said:
The screen was nice and the size wasn't bad...but it can't touch the inc.
Stock it was loaded with so much bloat that it lagged horribly. There were some great roms for it though.
Overall my experience is that I had to rom my X to make it as fast as a stock inc.
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Thanks for the reply. I guess I will stick with the Incredible then.

my next phone is the thunderbolt. i'm really excited to wait in line at 8:30 am for it tomorrow.
i'm upgrading to 4g for the same reason i upgraded to 802.11n. the population density in the city is just too high. all the cells are just overloaded. verizon's not bad, but AT&T is just horrendous. i actually got AT&T to waive the ETF on my iPhone plan so i could move to VZW and get an OG Droid. anyway, back when i had an 802.11g router my signal strength was fine, but the speeds were just terrible. a 20 second kismac scan just now reveals 45 different wireless networks coursing through my apartment. after moving to wireless n the difference was huge and i'm hoping the same effect will be seen after moving to LTE. i'm also hoping that my signal strength will be better on the 700 mHz band. my office in the Financial District has a not-very-good signal and i hear 700 mHz penetrates further into the built environment.
finally, i'm really stoked to go to a 4.3" screen. i bought an HD2 and took it abroad so i could have a phone with a local sim while traveling. although mobile data speeds in india and bangladesh were pretty awful, i really enjoyed using android on that giant HD2 display. a higher resolution screen would be nice, but i'm ready to move on from my DInc so that's not a requirement for me.
see you in the thunderbolt forums.

I really want the galaxy s 2, hopefully it will come out on Verizon by June 18th
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For all of you that want the Thunderbolt:
Save $70 and use it for the extended battery; Amazon will be selling them at midnight for $179 with a 2 year contract
http://wireless.amazon.com/dp/B004M5HB6U
http://www.androidcentral.com/amazon-will-sell-you-htc-thunderbolt-180-goes-sale-midnight

thinking of selling my bolt

You read the title. It's rooted, running gingerbread never had any issues. This is my first htc device and while it has its +'s I'm not happy with it. I've had it since may. Thinking of selling it so I can buy a bionic or tablet. I don't know what a realistic price is, but I'm thinking somewhere between upgrade and full retail.

A) This shouldn't be in accessories.
B)You'll get about $375 for it if its perfect.
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Are you posting this because your soliciting offers, or do you want us to talk you back down to earth?
We here in the TB subthread are a hearty bunch who very much like our somewhat maligned smartphone
$375 would be optimistic, and definitely not including eBay/Paypal fees (google for a calculator to get a good idea of how much they take).
What is not doing it for you on the TB? Have you tried some of the slimmed roms?

Well to put it bluntly, I hate sense. Fixed that with launcher pro, but that doesn't let me use the sense elements I do like. The signal is crap (where I am), no 4g here yet. I only got it to be grandfathered in before the tiered data plans. Now that they are extended I'm thinking of other options. It's a ford chevy thing. You can argue it all day and no one is right or wrong. My droid x was more reliable in my area, and usability is most important to me.

Can't blame a man for that...you'll get no flaming from me.
I have a great VZW signal and LTE where I'm at. I completely understand where you are coming from.
Have you tried, for S&G, another Tbolt just to see if you could get better reception?
I'm with you on tiered data...I just got my girl her iPhone 4 Saturday (I could not convince her to come to the dark side...sorry..lol)
My advice is to try a replacement first before you sign off...but I understand if you do, regardless. Best of luck...

Yea a thunderbolt without 4g is nothing but a dinc 2. You really liked your droid x? I hated that phone, no matter OC or rom, it always was mega laggy throughout the UI. The hdmi out was nice though.

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You read the title. It's rooted, running gingerbread never had any issues. This is my first htc device and while it has its +'s I'm not happy with it. I've had it since may. Thinking of selling it so I can buy a bionic or tablet. I don't know what a realistic price is, but I'm thinking somewhere between upgrade and full retail.
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I will give $250 (including shipping) for it.

I know the TB has no HDMI, but what do you guys use that feature for anyway?
I went from the Droid to TB and other than the battery life I love the TB! I've got 4G in my area and get 16mb download which is simply awesome. The 3 hour battery life or 5 hour if I turn off LTE sucks big time.

When does the bionic come out anyway? Im not too crazy for moto after the X and D2 days with the locked boot loaders. Even tho there were ways around it, it still sucked. Hopefully the Bionic is not the same.

I agree, different strokes for different fokes. I had the Droid X and after having the TB, I haven't looked back once. I liked my X until I didn't. I'm in Portland Oregon where there isn't 4g either so I'm on 3g and I still would take my TB over the X. but thats just my opinion.

not trying to diss the OP but the tbolt is the most solid phone verizon carries. i mean yeah sense sucks but i just use launcherpro + the sense 3.0 lockscreen. i mean come on man there are tons of alternative launchers on the market and xda. sounds as if he just is making excuses to dump the phone.
no offense but i think you would be happier sticking to this one as both samsung & moto phones are not the best and do not get as many updates as htc phones. trust me as ive owned almost every brand out there.

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I will give $250 (including shipping) for it.
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i wouldn't except anything under $300 for this phone.

I'll give you a BAMFed Nook Color for it : D

Im not understanding how rooted users are getting terrible battery life. 1GHz is plenty fast for anything a phone will do leave it there and underclock it when its off, I got another 6-8 hours of battery life out of my TB and no lag what so ever.
I completely understand if you don't have 4G because if it wasn't for my awesome 4G I would have probably gotten rid of it and just waited for the galaxy s2. But the amount of dev support already for the TB has made me stick with it.

Noooooo don't selllllllll
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I don't understand why ppl don't like sense. It's slippery slick on BAMF! The battery life is not that bad if not good. It's a great phone. I dont have 4g and I still happy. Just sell it and move on to whatever...
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I wouldn't sell it. The bolt is just at the point of infancy with development so who knows what other ROMs will come out
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I appreciate all of your input, but it's not the ui. It's the equipment. When I'm in charlotte this phone is awesome. But when I'm not its data usage is about as useful as my old lg voyager. It has a weak ant. This is my second one, rooted tried all radios and several roms. Other than the signal issue, great phone. I'm not hating, it just won't work for my situation. Once I have 4g it wouldn't be an issue, but that's not slated until mid 2012 in my area.

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I appreciate all of your input, but it's not the ui. It's the equipment. When I'm in charlotte this phone is awesome. But when I'm not its data usage is about as useful as my old lg voyager. It has a weak ant. This is my second one, rooted tried all radios and several roms. Other than the signal issue, great phone. I'm not hating, it just won't work for my situation. Once I have 4g it wouldn't be an issue, but that's not slated until mid 2012 in my area.
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I'm with you on this. If you wanna sell it, sell it. You shouldn't come to a forum so strangers can agree or disagree with you on that matter. I personally wish you the best of luck in your voyage on selling the device. I'd do it sooner than later considering as each day passes by, the phone you own right now is depreciating in value quickly. Hold onto the money until the next great phone comes out. Maybe the Galaxy S2 (Function). I know I'm as lost as everyone else is about that phone's specs for verizon, but I think it's going to be CDMA only w/o LTE. I'm personally waiting for that to come out before I start thinking about ditching my bolt which works great for me

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I agree, different strokes for different fokes. I had the Droid X and after having the TB, I haven't looked back once. I liked my X until I didn't. I'm in Portland Oregon where there isn't 4g either so I'm on 3g and I still would take my TB over the X. but thats just my opinion.
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You need to turn on your 4G bud. It's been up and running in Portland, OR for at least a few weeks now. I know that it hasn't been "announced." But it's working... I live here.
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[Q] Tired Of Bugs with EVO.. What Should I Trade for?

My Evo has been having issues with text messages and all sorts of things. I am quite tired of it all and I am considering taking it in for maintenance. Back in the day I had an HTC Touch Pro (Raphael), one of the most buggy phones ever released, and I had to take it back twice. The second time, Sprint told me I could trade it for any phone that my plan accepted. I traded up to a Touch Pro2 (Rhodium) which was probably my favorite phone ever. After a year and a half with that phone, I bought an EVO on an upgrade just 3 days before the 3D was announced to the public (my life sucks lol). I still used the EVO when it arrived even though I had 30 days to return it. However I am having multiple issues with the EVO Running out of space for no reason and it not loading simple Apps or even making calls sometimes. I've tried rooting it and using different ROMs but it seems to be an internal issue of some kind. This phone is in amazing condition, Otterbox and Zagg Skins have been on it since unboxing and it has been dropped in the Otterbox maybe one time. If I take it in, what should/can I switch to? I'd love a new EVO 3D lol but I would take an EvoShift if I had to so I could have the battery life and the keyboard as well as Sense 2.1. I am just wondering if anyone else has run into my issue and would be willing to share what their best option ended up being. Thanks to all who reply with helpful input.

I am also curious about this. I absolutely loved this phone but a few issues have me wanting to throw this thing into a wall. I have been having reception issues lately (getting terrible/no signal in an area i know i have good coverage), and a bug that popped up randomly a few months ago that causes extremely high display usage on any sense rom (causing horrible battery life), it does not happen with aosp and I'm not switching to aosp because it has too many bugs.
Basically, i want to know if i take my phone in for an insurance claim (ill crack the screen or something), if i can get a nexus s 4g. I don't see why not since they stopped making the evo and may not even have any in stock, and the nexus is of the same value if not cheaper. Can anyone chime in on this?
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I am with you. The Nexus S looks way better to me right now. Or even the Shift. It got the update to Sense 2.1. It seems as though we have been left behind with our Evo's. I just unrooted and I am going to go to the store and see what they'll offer me as a trade. As far as them being out of stock, I highly doubt it. Just because they've stopped production doesn't mean they don't have a warehouse full of refurbished EVO's somewhere. I am ready to abandon this device and move on to something more powerful.

The nexus s 4G has no notification light or micro SD slot. Keep that in mind.
sent from my 7/23 iNfEcTeD EVO 4G

droiddawg said:
The nexus s 4G has no notification light or micro SD slot. Keep that in mind.
sent from my 7/23 iNfEcTeD EVO 4G
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True... What about the Shift? I know there is no front camera but I don't use the one on my Evo anyway.

I say go with the Zack Morris Shoe Phone lol
I take it nobody likes the Photon?

lol nice. The Photon is alright, but I doubt Sprint would let me exchange my EVO for the Photon on a TEP claim.

nickelghandi said:
lol nice. The Photon is alright, but I doubt Sprint would let me exchange my EVO for the Photon on a TEP claim.
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are you rooted? if not give that a try and if you are then get a new phone and sell it on craigslist or ebay and purchase a Nexus, Evo3d, Photon or Galaxy II those are your only real choices

you can not go wrong with two soup cans and a hundred feet of string at least it comes with a great data plan and life time warranty

delman420 said:
you can not go wrong with two soup cans and a hundred feet of string at least it comes with a great data plan and life time warranty
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Ahahaha too funny

playya said:
are you rooted? if not give that a try and if you are then get a new phone and sell it on craigslist or ebay and purchase a Nexus, Evo3d, Photon or Galaxy II those are your only real choices
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Read the OP. I am rooted. Let me clear things up.. I am taking my Evo in to have it replaced because it is "faulty." In the past Sprint has let me exchange my phone (whatever it was) for one that was of equal or lesser value. I am wondering what my best choice would be. I am locked in contract until 2013 so buying a new phone is just about out of the question. I am thinking of trading my Evo for either a Nexus S or an EvoShift. I'd like to exchange it for a newer phone if I can.