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The point in rooting

Hi,
I am new to android. I came over from a htc hd2. Basicaly I was just wondering apart from being able to install apps2sd I can't really see much more to do with it. I know you can install custom ROMS, but I think the default that comes with the phone is just fine.
Could someone please tell me of any perks of rooting the desire.
Cheers
Ian

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675202

so am I missing something. where on that page does it tell you the benefits or rooting?
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I don't mean to be rude, but if you are not aware what you can do with a rooted android device, maybe you should just google around a little bit and find out what root access actually means. I find it helps a lot when you actually understand something before considering it.

Wifi-tether (once working), OpenVPN tunnels, chroot'ed Linux installs, kernel with PAE to use more ram (need to check this), CPU overclocking, LED Torch and other nerdy things we all like

cheers jayshah. probably be most interested in the WiFi tether myself. seems like some good stuff there then! I have rooted already just for the apps2sd, but it looks like that could be coming officially soon any way.
cheers
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abats. no problem. I'll have a dig around see what I can find. was just after a few good points.
cheers
Ian
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My best advice is don't do anything if you don't need to. Don't root just because you can. Think to yourself "am I happy with everything my phone can do NOW?" if yes, then leave it and enjoy your phone. If the answer is, no, I need it to do X, Y and Z, then you need to research. Can X, Y or Z be achieved with a third party app? If yes, then again, leave it and get the app. If no, then see if it IS possible, if you have Root access. Then and only then should you consider it.
I've personally not found anything compelling enough to Root yet, so I haven't.

Aitese said:
My best advice is don't do anything if you don't need to. Don't root just because you can. Think to yourself "am I happy with everything my phone can do NOW?" if yes, then leave it and enjoy your phone. If the answer is, no, I need it to do X, Y and Z, then you need to research. Can X, Y or Z be achieved with a third party app? If yes, then again, leave it and get the app. If no, then see if it IS possible, if you have Root access. Then and only then should you consider it.
I've personally not found anything compelling enough to Root yet, so I haven't.
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So far I'm happy enough with the system 'as is'

iang123 said:
cheers jayshah. probably be most interested in the WiFi tether myself. seems like some good stuff there then! I have rooted already just for the apps2sd, but it looks like that could be coming officially soon any way.
cheers
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Yeah, I heard that too but the Wifi tether is actually the main thing I need. That'll never become standard (given it's basically forbidden on at least T-Mo UK) so you'll always have to root.
I fully agree with what Aitese said. I really don't see the point in rooting, and taking the risk, if you won't use it. I've rebooted my device around 5 times in the last hour, making sure recovery works and installing Busybox as I'm not putting A2SD on it yet. Rooting isn't just something you should do because others have, it isn't for the faint hearted.

I think in the past devices have had to be rooted as early ROMS were crap on some early HTC devices. Its almost like when a new device comes out people now automatically race to get it rooted without really knowing why! For this device though, I dont see the point. Works well as is!

MarketEnabler? for people outside "authorized" zones, giving them the ability to get paid Apps.... wich is a huge downside atm

firedup said:
I think in the past devices have had to be rooted as early ROMS were crap on some early HTC devices. Its almost like when a new device comes out people now automatically race to get it rooted without really knowing why! For this device though, I dont see the point. Works well as is!
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Yeah, I think this device is spot on as is, just with the exception of only being able to install apps into main memory. The HD2 I felt needed custom ROMS found my self flashing a bit on that and had a much better ROM on then stock.
I can't beleive the difference between the 2 os's though it's a nice change from windows mobile, which was just horrible to be honest in my experience.
Cheers
Ian

Wifi-tether (once working), OpenVPN tunnels, chroot'ed Linux installs, kernel with PAE to use more ram (need to check this), CPU overclocking, LED Torch and other nerdy things we all like
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BTW - LED tourch doesn't require root on the Desire
Wifi tether is actually the main thing I need....
(given it's basically forbidden on at least T-Mo UK)
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Not so. Tmo UK are fine with it. HD2 supports it out of the box!

farnsbarns said:
Not so. Tmo UK are fine with it. HD2 supports it out of the box!
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I used my Desire on T-mo most of last week in the evening while working away. ~700MB went through it according to my T-mo account page, all listed as costing £0.00 No special software (i.e. PDAnet) just HTC sync installed, and to be honest don't know if that's even needed.

fredfox_uk said:
I used my Desire on T-mo most of last week in the evening while working away. ~700MB went through it according to my T-mo account page, all listed as costing £0.00 No special software (i.e. PDAnet) just HTC sync installed, and to be honest don't know if that's even needed.
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My point was that Tmo don't have an issue with WiFi tethering in general. They certainly can't detect / stop you doing it.

There's probably not enough reason to root until Froyo comes out.

farnsbarns said:
My point was that Tmo don't have an issue with WiFi tethering in general. They certainly can't detect / stop you doing it.
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Yes - sorry, I didn't make it clear - I'm agreeing with you Although I wasn't using WiFi, just the cable, I didn't know you could tether with WiFi.

fredfox_uk said:
Yes - sorry, I didn't make it clear - I'm agreeing with you Although I wasn't using WiFi, just the cable, I didn't know you could tether with WiFi.
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No no! I realized you were aggreeing with me! It was me that wasn't clear. I had realized you probably meant you had tethered using a cable and was just saying that Tmobile don't have a specific issue with WiFi Tethering as demonstrated by the fact that the HD2 supports it out of the box.

For me i need to be able to root in order to install language packs as i am stuck to europe, i can see chars etc but i do not get the keyboard. I rather use a default android keyboard than 3rd party

[Q] Desire rooting problems - Anyone had a similar experience??

Hi guys and gals
My mate got his HTC Desire about 4 days ago, he wasted no time in trying to root it but seems to have fu**ed up. According to his own words:
"I did the unlocker method (made the gold card), got into the boot loader but upon loading the custom and reboot I lost the screen. phone still works but no display, I am still trying various recoveries"
Has anyone had (or know of) any similar experiences? I been thinking about rooting my Desire but now I'm worried...not had mine long either.
Thanks!

DJ Anon said:
Hi guys and gals
My mate got his HTC Desire about 4 days ago, he wasted no time in trying to root it but seems to have fu**ed up. According to his own words:
"I did the unlocker method (made the gold card), got into the boot loader but upon loading the custom and reboot I lost the screen. phone still works but no display, I am still trying various recoveries"
Has anyone had (or know of) any similar experiences? I been thinking about rooting my Desire but now I'm worried...not had mine long either.
Thanks!
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sounds like your mate has an slcd screen and tried to downgrade his device too an incompatible hboot (f it doesn't mention amoled on the box you have slcd). this is completely recoverable. although a little tricky - see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748498&highlight=brick

Cheers!
Thanks debully,
Will pass on your comments to my mate.
I must say tho, his experience has sort of freaked me out a bit. I am looking to root my Desire (I wanna be able to connect with a Wii controller) but am feeling a bit aprehensive now...

Go for it man.. I just bought my telus desire last tuesday and by the end of thursday I had rooted and flashed LeeDroid to it.. and havent looked back since. While some of the instructions may seem complicated, once you actually do it, it's really quite easy. I originally used unrevoked without the SLCD support, and it still works, just shows a black screen when doing the updates. Earlier today I re-flashed unrevoked with the SLCD support and switched to Cyanogen 6 RC2, and it was a walk in the park! The advanages of the custom ROMS (and 2.2) far outweigh the chance of a scare. And if you still feel aprahensible about it, just check out the howardforums.com telus HSPA forums, there is a post with a REALLY easy walkthrough, and several success stories for our specific model of the phone.

Thanks mikeandjaimie
i'm gonna go ahead and be a lazy bas**rd, could you please provide a link to this forum u speak of?
Thanks!

try to avoid over the air upgrades to froyo as this throws a nasty spanner in the works should you wish to get root afterwards. Lots of screen presses on a blank screen - not for the faint hearted. Stick with 2.1 and its quite a bit easier to root, then upgrade to froyo via a custom rom.
I only know this because I did an OTA update within minutes of getting out of the box, only to find that this has practically ruined my chances of rooting my device, for the time being at least, until some bright bugger finds a reasonable way round it.

debully said:
try to avoid over the air upgrades to froyo as this throws a nasty spanner in the works should you wish to get root afterwards. Lots of screen presses on a blank screen - not for the faint hearted. Stick with 2.1 and its quite a bit easier to root, then upgrade to froyo via a custom rom.
I only know this because I did an OTA update within minutes of getting out of the box, only to find that this has practically ruined my chances of rooting my device, for the time being at least, until some bright bugger finds a reasonable way round it.
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I hear you mate. I updated my Android OS to Froyo 2.2 almost on the same day I got the phone. However there are some guides on how to downgrade your Android OS to 0.83 or lower before rooting it so I'll be giving it a try shortly.

Please let me know how you get on and save the links to the guides you use - if you don't mind.
Good luck
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Yes another Newbie sorry

Hi,
All just got my HTC Desire this morning and eager to go, but not sure how to start.
Can someone let me know in what order I should begin?
My phone is locked to T Mobile and I have 8gb memory card and would like to have gold card, A2SD+ and Froyo 2.2.
Hope I aint sounding too amibitious for a newbie, just want to do things in the right order.
Please asume I a total numbskull (wife does)
Reagrds

I'd wait for UnrEVOked 3.2 to be reposted (it has been removed for a short while to sort out some issues).
If it works for you, you won't need a gold card which makes the whole process much easier.
Regards,
Dave

first thing is just use the phone, get used to it, enjoy it. If you then feel you need to look into custom ROMs then read the posts from the Chefs and see which one is right for you. TBH, stock 2.2 is more than adequate unless you wanna install an obscene amounts of apps

EddyOS said:
first thing is just use the phone, get used to it, enjoy it. If you then feel you need to look into custom ROMs then read the posts from the Chefs and see which one is right for you. TBH, stock 2.2 is more than adequate unless you wanna install an obscene amounts of apps
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True that, just enjoy the phone! Right now you havnt really got a reason for upgrading, unless you really want 720p.. 2.1 is just as fast, just dont mess with the phone too kuch for now.. do you have an amoled or an slcd version?!
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cheers Guys,
Guess I am too eager and my son dont help either with his new iphone4, showing off all the time!!
Version is amoled.
Regards

Jazyt said:
cheers Guys,
Guess I am too eager and my son dont help either with his new iphone4, showing off all the time!!
Version is amoled.
Regards
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new Desire and AMOLED eh? does it just say that on the box or you have checked ?? there are alot of posts so do that or youtube

Jazyt said:
cheers Guys,
Guess I am too eager and my son dont help either with his new iphone4, showing off all the time!!
Version is amoled.
Regards
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Don't worry about the iPhone4, the desire is better imo. Even if it is unrooted, and the iphoney is jb-ed.At least you can hold your phone and call at the same time ;-).
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Ik Desire said:
Don't worry about the iPhone4, the desire is better imo. Even if it is unrooted, and the iphoney is jb-ed.At least you can hold your phone and call at the same time ;-).
Haha, unless your name is Chuck Norris haha..
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I also have to agree with EddyOS.
And keep in mind, most applications coming out now including updated applications have the option to be moved to SD.

So Unrevoked 3.2 will root my desire which was updated OTA with stock froyo 2.2? I have unbranded device btw. Software number is 2.09.405.8, and HBOOT is 0.92.0001

me too has chosen the HTC desire for enleghten my contract with T mobile,.its not a tmobile phone but my provider is ,.i started searching some themes last night ,. and found out i need to root ,. and put a new Rom on it like Leedroid or cyanogen rom for applying some stunning Themes ,. so i dig in deeper all day long today founding out there is not 1 program yet except for unrevoked 3.2(wich is taken due some bugs) that would possible root my android 2.2 phone ,.tho i came across many links from this site,. and enjoy the loads of info on here .

OK I am going to sound really stupid now.
In my eagerness to download apps (some do not have the option to send to SD card) I have used the internal memory up.
How do I configure the phone that all apps get moved to the SD as routine?
Yep a totally dumbo I know, you can beat me up later

Jazyt said:
OK I am going to sound really stupid now.
In my eagerness to download apps (some do not have the option to send to SD card) I have used the internal memory up.
How do I configure the phone that all apps get moved to the SD as routine?
Yep a totally dumbo I know, you can beat me up later
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Yes, you are dumb. Not for downloading too many apps, but because you don't understand that almost every forum has a search function. Even asking the almighty google would have given you the answer without being flamed.
Apps2sd. The app in the marked, not the root-mod. But don't put widgets on sd.
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k4rl0 said:
So Unrevoked 3.2 will root my desire which was updated OTA with stock froyo 2.2? I have unbranded device btw. Software number is 2.09.405.8, and HBOOT is 0.92.0001
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Yes, just rooted my phone on 2.10.405.2/HBOOT 0.93 and it completed fine (got leaked version of 3.2)

Cheers,
Let the beats begin, damn hate being a silver surfer too old to understand this new aged machines.
Bring back the ababacus

[Q] To root or not to root that is the Question

I am seriously agonizing over whether or not to root my HOX, I have had a desire and rooted and flashed it to within an inch of its life and never had an issue, and its still going strong and running Shaky153's new ICS Sense rom.
My only concern is that I am unsure whether the HOX is as technically or physically robust as the Desire, and I keep getting the impression that it could breakdown at anytime, I'm not too bothered about physical damage as the phone is insured, but if it has to be returned to HTC I'm F*!£^%.
Please someone help me make this decision, should I root, if so why?
If not why?

Its totally up to you mate, but I will say that I had my HOX rooted a couple hours after purchasing it! And I love it!!

your decision mate...or wait for S-OFF..if you have a solid handset and no defects or issues with software then i would unlock it as by rooting this bad boy is the whole point of getting this phone. just do not forget about the bad stuff like voiding warranty though there is a couple of threads regarding this issue in the general section have a read through before unlocking...
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I am seriously agonizing over whether or not to root my HOX, I have had a desire and rooted and flashed it to within an inch of its life and never had an issue, and its still going strong and running Shaky153's new ICS Sense rom.
My only concern is that I am unsure whether the HOX is as technically or physically robust as the Desire, and I keep getting the impression that it could breakdown at anytime, I'm not too bothered about physical damage as the phone is insured, but if it has to be returned to HTC I'm F*!£^%.
Please someone help me make this decision, should I root, if so why?
If not why?
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I would wait for s-off. I'm not going to fiddle with mine until that is achieved. In the meantime, my desire will handle my flash addiction .

Jonnibravo said:
If not why?
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You do know that it voids warranty, right ??
If you just got it, then wait at least a week, test everything properly and make sure there aren't any hardware faults/manufacturing defects.

I have always rooted my devices after few hours of purchases. Except this one x. I actually cant wait to try custom roms and use root apps like i always do but sense 4 is beautiful and enough to keep me away from modifying it. So i think, i can wait for s-off. Plus, hearing the defects here and there, it would actually worth it to wait. I only have this device for 5 days so nothing to be rushed.
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I would
It's totally up to you but I would root just for some root apps (completely remove system apps, etc.). You should always be able to unroot.

cronus101 said:
will handle my flash addiction .
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I'm starting to have withdrawals.....lol. My head is just going... I need to flash, I need to flash, and it's really getting hard not to be tempted and wait for S-OFF.

I wasn't planning to root but I'm tempted to now just for the sake of 2 things, the 3dot menu remover patch and the font changer.
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iximages said:
Its totally up to you mate, but I will say that I had my HOX rooted a couple hours after purchasing it! And I love it!!
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hahaha. same here. I'm still new to the flashing rom even using android phones (Coming from iOS) and yet i took the risk of rooting it and applying custom roms. ARHD is the best!!!

Do not root your phone...

Have been around for a while now, and my best advice is leave your phone as it is out of the box. If you are not a developer or you know what you are doing. Rooting your phone can get expensive since you give up all warranty on software you also hand htc a reason to not help you if they have a hardware issue. Every little thing can be blamed on software even dead pixels. I just bought a one x it is now back at the shop as DOA, and I will receive a new phone. If I had rooted that device be damb sure they would have pinned me with a bill for the work. So I will not root my one x before I know that there is no bugs screen errors speakers or any other hardware faults in it. Rooting just ain't worth it if want too use the phone on a daily basis
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I have rooted some phones over the years and I personally prefer to leave stock as well. I am not worried about warrantee since software can be reflashed and never had a tech sweat that so much as to hold bad software against me. It's an easy fix and anything easy to fix is easy points on their repair exchange ratio. Any tech blaming bad pixels on software makes me wonder.
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I know it is idiotic too blame dead pixels on software. But I have two htc phones that has dead pixels and I don't get a new screen cause they are rooted this is one of them. Further this phone reboots randomly and I can't seem get rid of it with different roms. And a tech told me that there is a hardware bug in the motherboard of the phone, but I can not get it fixed cause the phone is unlocked... No regret tho cause I love this phone and playing around with it are fun :-D But it will not ever be my day to day phone, and that is why I wrote this. Unlocking and rooting it might render the phone into a toy and not a reliable phone
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OrjanTonder said:
Have been around for a while now, and my best advice is leave your phone as it is out of the box. If you are not a developer or you know what you are doing. Rooting your phone can get expensive since you give up all warranty on software you also hand htc a reason to not help you if they have a hardware issue. Every little thing can be blamed on software even dead pixels. I just bought a one x it is now back at the shop as DOA, and I will receive a new phone. If I had rooted that device be damb sure they would have pinned me with a bill for the work. So I will not root my one x before I know that there is no bugs screen errors speakers or any other hardware faults in it. Rooting just ain't worth it if want too use the phone on a daily basis
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No your post is stupid. You can unroot your device before you send it in. Rooting is easy as **** and makes your phone better
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Og silly me, I forgot that you can lock your phone after you have unlocked it with htc dev
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ian1 said:
No your post is stupid. You can unroot your device before you send it in. Rooting is easy as **** and makes your phone better
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Nothing stupid about his post at all, when you relock the phone they know anyway!

ian1 said:
No your post is stupid. You can unroot your device before you send it in. Rooting is easy as **** and makes your phone better
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No, your post is stupid. Do some research on bootloader unlocking then edit your post.

ian1 said:
No your post is stupid. You can unroot your device before you send it in. Rooting is easy as **** and makes your phone better
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You can NOT unroot your phone...

srashedian said:
You can NOT unroot your phone...
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Technically you can, you can relock the bootloader, this will unroot the phone, however it will leave you with a phone that has a "relocked bootloader" which means what is says, not that it's still rooted.
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azazin said:
Technically you can, you can relock the bootloader, this will unroot the phone, however it will leave you with a phone that has a "relocked bootloader" which means what is says, not that it's still rooted.
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Thank you, Yes, that is what I meant (You can not return your phone to factory default situation to get warranty)
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Og silly me, I forgot that you can lock your phone after you have unlocked it with htc dev
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After locking boot-loader it will show "RE-LOCK" not lock, so you can't get warranty by simply re-locking your phone again... And you're right, you shouldn't unlock-root your phone unless you are completely satisfied with the device itself, and even after that rooting is a dangerous procedure (although it is easy to do)

Hence why it is better to wait for S-OFF.
However it's a risk and individuals have to decide whether the risk is worth taking or not to unlock via HTC Dev.
I took the risk and all is fine, no HW issues to speak off if anything happens in the future I full well know that I took the risk and will have to take the gamble on whether warranty gets honored or not. Touch wood I have no problems but with technology anything can go wrong anytime.

I think its down to the individual. If the extra cost of repairs is not thing you can afford then maybe stay away. Most of of us are on here because we like to play around with our tech and rooting is one way to customise it so its worth the risk. Even with unrooting technically being easy to spot.

I see too many in here, that actually breaks the phone. I can afford breaking my phone, but when it comes down to my day to day phone. I really need it too be just that a phone, and flashing it always brings me more hassle.
And one x is still fresh of the block, and those I know have had to return the phone at least one time. So unlocking this phone is more of a gamble than a older brand that has been around for a while.
I am not looking at developers and people that are used to unlocking and fiddling, but at those that are new to this.
The warning that you break the warranty is real. And after you have stepped over that line there is no way back.
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OrjanTonder said:
I see too many in here, that actually breaks the phone. I can afford breaking my phone, but when it comes down to my day to day phone. I really need it too be just that a phone, and flashing it always brings me more hassle.
And one x is still fresh of the block, and those I know have had to return the phone at least one time. So unlocking this phone is more of a gamble than a older brand that has been around for a while.
I am not looking at developers and people that are used to unlocking and fiddling, but at those that are new to this.
The warning that you break the warranty is real. And after you have stepped over that line there is no way back.
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There are several people here who have gotten their phone fixed under warranty even though their phones have been re locked. As long as you return it to stock I don't see why HTC shouldn't fix your phone, given that you haven't caused the problem.
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LOL, really？ coming on xda without any itentions of rooting...that s kinda weird to me...my friend who dont wanna root, have never ever came on xda, even when i told them how good it is.
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Kevin Ma said:
LOL, really？ coming on xda without any itentions of rooting...that s kinda weird to me...my friend who dont wanna root, have never ever came on xda, even when i told them how good it is.
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Heh there is more on this site than just rooting your phone. ;-) it is actually a very good site too find out what is coming look at beats among other. Why do you think beats are added to the one x? I have been on Unix systems since I was twelve, and done kernel work. So being able to see android form is fascinating. And maybe your friends just don't want to know how it works, just as long as it works.
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All the OP did was warn us. He said if you ain't a developer don't . His subjective opinion. I ain't a developer but I still root every phone I own and that is a lot. I am comfortable with ADB and fast boot. Someone else like me will disregard this post.
The most the OP will do is scare off a new comer from rooting. Whether this is good or bad is unknown. He may have well just prevent two "help I've bricked my phone" posts or on the flip side prevented the next Chainfire from being realized.
I can't say I disapprove with the entire post but a few elements shouldn't be added. Remember this is a tech site. Saying not to for anything unless its proven to be harmful goes against what XDA stands for.
Just try and be more responsible when you post. Not everyone is savvy. People do come here to learn.

Jagerzero said:
All the OP did was warn us. He said if you ain't a developer don't . His subjective opinion. I ain't a developer but I still root every phone I own and that is a lot. I am comfortable with ADB and fast boot. Someone else like me will disregard this post.
The most the OP will do is scare off a new comer from rooting. Whether this is good or bad is unknown. He may have well just prevent two "help I've bricked my phone" posts or on the flip side prevented the next Chainfire from being realized.
I can't say I disapprove with the entire post but a few elements shouldn't be added. Remember this is a tech site. Saying not to for anything unless its proven to be harmful goes against what XDA stands for.
Just try and be more responsible when you post. Not everyone is savvy. People do come here to learn.
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I second that.
Its always good to test out the phone thoroughly before you root the phone. Rooting is not difficult..if done right it can really help you get the most out of your device.

I think that Android phone with out ROOT is very stupid.
1) The simplest proof of this - the inability to remove unneeded applications.
2) Your GPS is bad because of an incorrect region. And you can solve it in two ways. ROOT or RST Phone(+about 8 thousands of rubles)
3) Android without ROOT is the same as Windows without the system administrator)

FiReDoGGi said:
I think that Android phone with out ROOT is very stupid.
1) The simplest proof of this - the inability to remove unneeded applications.
2) Your GPS is bad because of an incorrect region. And you can solve it in two ways. ROOT or RST Phone(+about 8 thousands of rubles)
3) Android without ROOT is the same as Windows without the system administrator)
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lol, just so u know though, ios doesnt let u install all of the stuff as well, say for on android, at least AFTER.i root, i can unstall htc locations and stocks..but even after you jailbreak, uninstalling system apps is a lain in the ass.
for ios users, jailbreaking doesnt make as much difference as it does when rooting on android
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