How does the gmail app work? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

How does the default gmail app on Desire work? Does it download the mails to my phone, taking up phone space or SD space? Or are they only accessed through the net? Also the app doesn't seem to care about what setting i set under: POP Download under my gmail account, where you can alter what mails should be downloaded and such.

you decide. you can tell it to download the headers for x days, or grab the full emails for x days.

How? The sync says 4 days, but i can keep on scrolling down to access all my emails it seems.

in mine - menu>more>settings.
everything is in there

Only options i know of that may have something to do with what you mentioned is Labels under settings, in there i can choose "number of days to sync" and which label i want to sync. But even if i set my Inbox to say 4 days, i can still scroll further down and get mails that is over a month old.

Are you connected to internet while doing that ? If yes, the app might load the mails on-the-fly ...

It'll save to the internal storage. When space is approx.

thed0g said:
Are you connected to internet while doing that ? If yes, the app might load the mails on-the-fly ...
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Yes am connected to WIFI atm.
th3 said:
It'll save to the internal storage. When space is approx.
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What do you mean when "space is approx"?
Edit: Anyway, it looks like the default gmail app is directly connected to the account or something, as changes i do in the gmail app, also happens at gmail.com, even though i've said to "keep Gmails copy in inbox" it looks to move them if i click delete or archive in the gmail app.

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Gmail app or mail?

Currently im getting 2 notifications for the same email, the mail app lets me download the attachments i get , i cant seem to do that on the gmail app, just lets me preview the music i get sent and not download it for example.
so basically which of the two is better, can i stop getting two notifications at once, if i remember correctly the gmail app seems to always receive the mail 1st, is there away to download attachments from the gmail app?
If you check out my thread here, there are some problems with both the Gmail application and the Mail application.
If you have to pick one or the other to use exclusively, I would use the Mail application. (ie, can save attachments, can click links, can select text to copy to clipboard, can attach files other than photos)
You can stop getting 2 notifications at once. Do one of the below.
To stop Gmail notification:
Open Gmail application - Press Menu key - Tap "Settings" - Toggle "Email notifications"
To stop Mail notification:
Open Mail application - Press Menu key - Tap "More" - Tap "Notification settings" - Toggle "Email notifications"
you do realise that when you tap preview in the google app, it actually downloads the file anyway, right? well, for some files it does. Pictures are downloaded anyway. i would assume music should be the same.
you should then find it in downloads in the browser....
rhedgehog said:
you do realise that when you tap preview in the google app, it actually downloads the file anyway, right? well, for some files it does. Pictures are downloaded anyway. i would assume music should be the same.
you should then find it in downloads in the browser....
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This does not work for all files though. It annoys me that .zip files and basically every "unknown" format is not available for preview/download through the standard Gmail app. I have been using Gmail in the browser to download these earlier, but if it works in the default Mail program, its a godsent.
I moved ovr to the mail app a few minutes ago, seems more comprehensive BUT I am a bit concerned about battery life as the sync logo in the notification is constantly on ...
Also if I use the Mail app with exchange to do calendar as well do I get the colour coded calendars as I like to know what belongs to what calendar ?
O and O said:
I moved ovr to the mail app a few minutes ago, seems more comprehensive BUT I am a bit concerned about battery life as the sync logo in the notification is constantly on ...
Also if I use the Mail app with exchange to do calendar as well do I get the colour coded calendars as I like to know what belongs to what calendar ?
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It is probably still syncing your mail. Let it be for a while.
I am wondering what uses most battery, Exchange Push from Gmail, or regular Gmail push?
Why would you use Exchange to sync you gCal? You get colour coding by default in the standard gCal sync. I have disabled the autosync of Gmail, and am now using Exchange Push instead.
No raeson for using the gCal to be honest, was just trying to extend battery.
Mail app seems quite comprehensive . I like it just need the bloody sync logo to stop!
Don't need to worry about the sync logo if it's not rotating. It's only actively syncing when it's rotating.
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NEW PROBLEM! I don't seem to get notifications yet they are turned on. Ican't check for sound as I am at work but I don't see anything in the notification bar ... not sure of light though ...
whats the advantages of using the xchange server? i just signed in regularly, and seem to get mail fast no issues, ?
also as google mail does not have a widit i have the normall mail program on one of my home screens, but the normal mail program recives mail once every 15 mins, the google one seems to recive instantly, can i set the htc mail program to get mail the same way google mail does?
You have to set it up as an ActiveSync Exchange account instead of a POP3/IMAP account to get push support
You then go in to the Mail settings and choose Push in the interval settings.
oh ok, is that easy to set up lol?
it keeps sayin authentication error, ami ment to write somthing in "Domain" , its a gmail email
TurkzZ said:
it keeps sayin authentication error, ami ment to write somthing in "Domain" , its a gmail email
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If you are using exchange then it is m.google.com
strange its saying my email or password is wrong lol :S
Back to GMail app ... GOOGLE UPDATE THE BLOODY APP!
The mail aoo is comprehensive but somewhat slow and doesn't update for me ...
O and O said:
Back to GMail app ... GOOGLE UPDATE THE BLOODY APP!
The mail aoo is comprehensive but somewhat slow and doesn't update for me ...
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yh hopfully gmail make a widget and update there app, lol, does anybody else have an issue with active sync? or is it just me
TurkzZ said:
yh hopfully gmail make a widget and update there app, lol, does anybody else have an issue with active sync? or is it just me
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It's just you. I've been syncing with Google's Exchange server ever since my Touch Diamond days. Follow the directions in the following link to the letter.
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
thanks man, the default server name was wrong, changed it to m.google and it worked thanks bro
should i turn off any gmail app settings to save battery or anything now? , on the settings>sync options i have both the same email on active sync and google syncing, can i turn the good one off?

How to disable google push mail

Hi Guys
Have some question
In order to use the market i had to define google email account.
I don't want to work in the push mode with the google email, so i disabled the google sync through "Accounts & sync", but i want to receive google emails every 4 hours.
So i defined the google email account under Mail and defined to receive email every 4 hours.
Problem:
The problem is that because the Google sync is disabled i can not get the google emails every 4 hours.
Question:
Is there any solutions to disable the push google mode and work with 4 hours
email check.
Thanks for the assistance.
alegator23 said:
Hi Guys
Have some question
In order to use the market i had to define google email account.
I don't want to work in the push mode with the google email, so i disabled the google sync through "Accounts & sync", but i want to receive google emails every 4 hours.
So i defined the google email account under Mail and defined to receive email every 4 hours.
Problem:
The problem is that because the Google sync is disabled i can not get the google emails every 4 hours.
Question:
Is there any solutions to disable the push google mode and work with 4 hours
email check.
Thanks for the assistance.
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Not too sure, but I would think receiving email every 4 hours would still require it to be running in push mode? Which would explain why you need sync to be turned on.
Not 100% sure, and would be interested to hear other opinions or solutions to your problem.
In addition i put attention on additional issue,
When my Google sync is ON i receiving emails in push mode to the gmail application , and the strange issue that these emails are not updated on the "MAIL" screen (where i configured the gmail account).
Hope the issue is clear ....
have you defined the gmail app in the mail app as POP, IMAP or Exchange?
DOn;t use POP.
But the sync in Gmail and the mail app should not be related to each other whatsoever. Mine works fine when i set it up to IMAP.
of course, make sure you have always on mobile turned on and have the internet enabled, otherwise all should be gravy....
alegator23 said:
In addition i put attention on additional issue,
When my Google sync is ON i receiving emails in push mode to the gmail application , and the strange issue that these emails are not updated on the "MAIL" screen (where i configured the gmail account).
Hope the issue is clear ....
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I actually get notifications of emails much faster in the Gmail app than I do in the default Mail app. Gmail would instantaneously notify me of any new mail as soon as one is sent. For the default Mail app, it takes at least 5-10 mins before it does that.
I'm not sure if it's because for the default Mail app, the shortest interval you can select for receiving data is 5mins, but for the Gmail app, it's either turned on or off, which might make it instantaneous.
rhedgehog said:
have you defined the gmail app in the mail app as POP, IMAP or Exchange?
DOn;t use POP.
But the sync in Gmail and the mail app should not be related to each other whatsoever. Mine works fine when i set it up to IMAP.
of course, make sure you have always on mobile turned on and have the internet enabled, otherwise all should be gravy....
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Of course the mobile connection is turned ON. (common )
The gmail accoun in the mail app is configured as IMAP.
Any other suggestions are welcome.
Thanks
midamsax said:
I actually get notifications of emails much faster in the Gmail app than I do in the default Mail app. Gmail would instantaneously notify me of any new mail as soon as one is sent. For the default Mail app, it takes at least 5-10 mins before it does that.
I'm not sure if it's because for the default Mail app, the shortest interval you can select for receiving data is 5mins, but for the Gmail app, it's either turned on or off, which might make it instantaneous.
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This is the issue that i don't want to use the push ( which is the fastest way to receive email), i just want simple gmail configuration which will connect to the mail server every 4 hours and download the messages.
BTW the push requires much battery use (not sure).
alegator23 said:
This is the issue that i don't want to use the push ( which is the fastest way to receive email), i just want simple gmail configuration which will connect to the mail server every 4 hours and download the messages.
BTW the push requires much battery use (not sure).
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I think for the Gmail app, it has to be push. Is there any reason you wouldn't want to use the default Mail app, sync to your gmail account, and set the retrieve interval to be 4 hours? That would solve your issue, would it?
Did the same. Just create an Exchange Acc - Sync every X mins/hours (or Push if you want to).
Eggcake said:
Did the same. Just create an Exchange Acc - Sync every X mins/hours (or Push if you want to).
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Pardon my ignorance, but how do you create an exchange account for google?
Eggcake said:
Did the same. Just create an Exchange Acc - Sync every X mins/hours (or Push if you want to).
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Pardon my ignorance, but how do you create an exchange account for google?
*Update*
I found some good instructions here:
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=138740
It's for the iphone but applies to android as well
alegator23 said:
BTW the push requires much battery use (not sure).
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I dont think this is true, due to push email, makes the server from google to basically push email, if there is no email, it doesnt use internet every 4 hours to connect to google server to look for new mail therefore saves battery, while downloading 1 by 1 when they come is equivalent to getting a lot of email at once, for example 1 email every hour = 4 email at once every 4 hours.
patasenko said:
I dont think this is true, due to push email, makes the server from google to basically push email, if there is no email, it doesnt use internet every 4 hours to connect to google server to look for new mail therefore saves battery, while downloading 1 by 1 when they come is equivalent to getting a lot of email at once, for example 1 email every hour = 4 email at once every 4 hours.
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I am not sure it's correct if you gets everyhour 1 email and you need to download it every hour, then i think it's better to connect once and download all the emails (once in 4 hours). But it's not important, i just want to be able to configure the mobile phone according to mine requirements.
Thanks for the respond.
The main reason to disable the push mail, is to disable the night emails.
Is there any possibility to disable the push during the night.
Thanks

Mail versus GMail

I want to try using the Mail app instead of the GMail one, but is it actually possible to disable the GMail app without losing all the other functionality you get from logging into your Google account? - there seems to be a unified log in used by GMaps as well, for example. And when I try to remove the account in settings, it says I have to do a factory reset, this seems bonkers to me.
I couldn't manage to get my Google Mail account to sign into the Mail app...
patp said:
I want to try using the Mail app instead of the GMail one, but is it actually possible to disable the GMail app without losing all the other functionality you get from logging into your Google account? - there seems to be a unified log in used by GMaps as well, for example. And when I try to remove the account in settings, it says I have to do a factory reset, this seems bonkers to me.
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Turn off sync for Gmail under Settings->Accounts & sync.
You might also want to switch of notifications in the Gmail app too.
Regards,
Dave
Will the phone sync google mail contacts via imap on the mail app or do I need to stick to the gmail app for that?
foxmeister said:
Turn off sync for Gmail under Settings->Accounts & sync.
You might also want to switch of notifications in the Gmail app too.
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I think you must have a different version from mine. I have
Settings - Accounts& Sync
Background Data (tickbox)
AutoSync (tickbox)
Manage Accounts
Google
Stocks
Weather
If I tick Google I get a new screen:
Sync calendar
Sync contacts
Sync Google Mail
Sync Picassa Web Albums
(These all just trigger a sync)
At the bottom there are 2 buttons, Sync Now and Remove Account.
If I try remove account a box pops up warning that it will delete all the data, I say OK, then another box that says it can't do it, I have to factory reset because it is required by some applications.
I have been using the Google Mail app since I've had my phone, but today came across a problem - I could not copy & paste a tracking # from an email. I then quickly set up my gmail in the Mail app, & was able to perform this action very easily.
So my question is: has anyone used both apps extensively, & could they give me a quick "pro's & cons"?
thebosh said:
So my question is: has anyone used both apps extensively, & could they give me a quick "pro's & cons"?
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Here you go someone has already done that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6175293&postcount=43
The only thing that really annoys me is the fact that your Mail widget does not update the list of emails unless you open the Mail application.
Even if you already updated the email list in your GMail appl.
For example: I receive an email. I get a notification in the notification bar. I open it and it takes me to the Gmail appl (by default). I check my emails, read them, exit the application.
However, my HTCMail Widget (sitting on the desktop) does not show any updates. I have to open the HTCMail manually, sync (again!) and only then can I see the updated list.
Aaaargh!
I've been tempted to move to using the mail application over the gmail one as well.
I think ill setup the mail application with my other gmail account then compare the 2
I much prefer the gmail app. I think its quicker and easier to reply, and it syncs straight away unlike the mail app.
Only downside is the lack of widget, but with the number of apps I have on my homescreens, this isn't an issue.
I always feel it's worth mentioning k9mail at this point, if only because it supports IMAP IDLE.

[Q] email not actually deleting emails in gmail?

I wanted to use the GMAIL app for my phone, but since there is no way to set it NOT to push email (which is battery draining), I had to switch back to the stock email app. However, I am noticing that the stock app does not actually delete emails in my gmail, but instead sends them to a newly labeled folder called [imap]/trash.
Is there a way to stop this all from happening? I really don't want to have to go in and delete stuff twice all the time. Would anyone recommend any other (preferably free) email apps for an unrooted stock GS3?
Thanks!
EDIT: This also happens to sent emails. They go to ta [imap]/Sent folder instead of just my regular sent folder.
Uh, you can go into Accounts -> Sync and uncheck the Gmail sync option to stop it from syncing.
If you want to sync other things, and not gmail just uncheck the gmail option.
nest75068 said:
Uh, you can go into Accounts -> Sync and uncheck the Gmail sync option to stop it from syncing.
If you want to sync other things, and not gmail just uncheck the gmail option.
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i am aware of that. i like my email to check itself every hour or so (which i can do with the stock app), but not constantly. is that to much to ask? i could both delete from server, and check hourly, on the stock mail app on my iphone
slicetwo said:
i am aware of that. i like my email to check itself every hour or so (which i can do with the stock app), but not constantly. is that to much to ask? i could both delete from server, and check hourly, on the stock mail app on my iphone
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Ah see you didn't mention you wanted to have it limited based on a specific time frame.
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Ah see you didn't mention you wanted to have it limited based on a specific time frame.
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good point, sorry about that. yeah, i don't want my email constantly pushed, but i also would rather not have to check it on my own as i have 5 email accounts and prefer to just get notified hourly.
i'm trying the k-9 app, but it doesn't group threaded messages. i guess that's a small price to pay... meh.
Here is a list of some other options you may wnat to consider
http://www.tested.com/news/feature/3110-the-best-alternative-android-apps-to-manage-all-your-email/
nest75068 said:
Here is a list of some other options you may wnat to consider
http://www.tested.com/news/feature/3110-the-best-alternative-android-apps-to-manage-all-your-email/
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sweet. thanks!
Also, does anyone know if having multiple email accounts pushing vs. just one account pushing would drain the battery faster? does it matter how many you have going?

Contacts Sync

Just got my Fire Phone a couple of days ago and I knew exactly what I was getting into when I bought it. First thing I did was install Play Store along with all the apks are are important from Google.
But as the title suggests, I am just curious on if there is a way to sync Google Contacts quickly. My Contacts apps syncs fine with my Gmail, but it takes every bit of hour for them to sync. Whereas as when you add a contact in Gmail on the computer they sync immediately with an Android Phone. We have tried the different syncs options on the Fire Phone but to no avail. Just more curious than anything. If there isnt a way, it really doesnt bother me to much instead of being more a nuisance than anything.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
beeson76 said:
Just got my Fire Phone a couple of days ago and I knew exactly what I was getting into when I bought it. First thing I did was install Play Store along with all the apks are are important from Google.
But as the title suggests, I am just curious on if there is a way to sync Google Contacts quickly. My Contacts apps syncs fine with my Gmail, but it takes every bit of hour for them to sync. Whereas as when you add a contact in Gmail on the computer they sync immediately with an Android Phone. We have tried the different syncs options on the Fire Phone but to no avail. Just more curious than anything. If there isnt a way, it really doesnt bother me to much instead of being more a nuisance than anything.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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How did you get them to sync? My contacts app doesnt show any contacts I have on Google. :/
rjmohit said:
How did you get them to sync? My contacts app doesnt show any contacts I have on Google. :/
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I had to set up the Fire Email app with my Gmail address to get the contacts & calendar to sync. I actually like the email app more than I thought I would but can't seem to find two critical things:
-Notify once for emails (not every email)
-Different notification sounds for different accounts
Am I missing a setting somewhere?
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How did you get them to sync? My contacts app doesnt show any contacts I have on Google. :/
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It was pretty automatic for me. I logged in using my gmail account. I will try to help you though but you prolly already have all the correct settings. When you open your email app from the OS (not some installed app from the store), left swipe to get to your settings. In my email app, the only email I have as an account is Gmail. Go to settings in the menu. Bottom option. On next screen click Contacts Settings. From there you have an option to Synchronize contacts. Make sure that is set to on. Try that and let us know what happens. This is where is may take to up to an hour for it to sync. My original question here was if there is a faster option to get the contacts to sync because many times I need the contact sync immediately.
It prolly just built into the OS to sync at a certain time frame.
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I had to set up the Fire Email app with my Gmail address to get the contacts & calendar to sync. I actually like the email app more than I thought I would but can't seem to find two critical things:
-Notify once for emails (not every email)
-Different notification sounds for different accounts
Am I missing a setting somewhere?
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beeson76 said:
It was pretty automatic for me. I logged in using my gmail account. I will try to help you though but you prolly already have all the correct settings. When you open your email app from the OS (not some installed app from the store), left swipe to get to your settings. In my email app, the only email I have as an account is Gmail. Go to settings in the menu. Bottom option. On next screen click Contacts Settings. From there you have an option to Synchronize contacts. Make sure that is set to on. Try that and let us know what happens. This is where is may take to up to an hour for it to sync. My original question here was if there is a faster option to get the contacts to sync because many times I need the contact sync immediately.
It prolly just built into the OS to sync at a certain time frame.
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Gotcha!! I basically disabled the built in email app and installed googlecontactssyncadapter.apk in an effort to sync contacts. Unsuccessful, I moved to using CM11 and loving it!! Thanks for the detailed explanations!
I disabled most of the amazon apps as well, and noticed that my contacts stopped syncing. Looked into it a little more and saw that it was tied to the email app. The email app is okay, but it doesn't have any of my gmail labels so that was out, and it was using too much juice as was so I had to find an alternative. This app will connect to google, or a number of other contact sync services, and you can set the sync rate on it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dmfs.carddav.sync

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