The title says it all. Is yours flush with the back of the case when it's folded in?
Mine protrudes ever so slightly. Its just barely noticeable enough to be a pain in the ass, but its less than a millimeter. I know my Evo had already been returned when I bought it, so it could just be my unit, but I don't know.
So anyways, weigh in in the poll!
What makes it a pain? Mine is barely too, but haven't really noticed until you made me look lol
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What makes it a pain? Mine is barely too, but haven't really noticed until you made me look lol
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Haha its not really an issue I guess, I'm just mega OCD, so when I run my hand over the back of the phone and feel that, it makes me wanna break things
All kidding aside, it doesn't effect anything I guess, but if it was just me I was gonna try and get a swap for another one. If it's on all of them, it doesn't matter, I just was wondering about it.
Mine also sticks out a bit, but I don't find it annoying. What I find annoying is the fact that it squeaks when I pop it out.
About a mm or so
I think they all do. Mine does.
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My wife's and mine are flush.
mine is flush. although i do not use it often, and when i do, it is for short periods of time. it could just be the weight of the device putting strain on and stretching out the kickstand and its spring or whatever mechanism makes it retract and come out. i also use some form of case armor as a cover that is on it all the time, and there is a little bit of space cut out for the kickstand, so if it was to protrude in the future, it would still be flush with the case, if not still a little embedded inside it
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mine is flush. although i do not use it often, and when i do, it is for short periods of time. it could just be the weight of the device putting strain on and stretching out the kickstand and its spring or whatever mechanism makes it retract and come out. i also use some form of case armor as a cover that is on it all the time, and there is a little bit of space cut out for the kickstand, so if it was to protrude in the future, it would still be flush with the case, if not still a little embedded inside it
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Nah its not been pushed out it was like this since I bought it. Like I said its not a big issue, but the lack of consistency with these devices is kinda scaring me. I am a big HTC fan, but wow.
Damn. This looks like another difference between the build versions. I may have to do a swap
This is no where serious enough to do a swap unless you were already going to swap for another reason. If it still functions as it's supposed to and isn't wobbly, why send the whole thing back?
Mine protrudes probably a half a mm out (just barely noticeable until you said something) but it definitely doesn't detract from the device at all. Works perfectly. No where near as distracting as light leakage.
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This is no where serious enough to do a swap unless you were already going to swap for another reason. If it still functions as it's supposed to and isn't wobbly, why send the whole thing back?
Mine protrudes probably a half a mm out (just barely noticeable until you said something) but it definitely doesn't detract from the device at all. Works perfectly. No where near as distracting as light leakage.
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No it doesn't interfere with the use, and it really isn't that serious. But, if not all of the units have this issue, and I'm going to be stuck with it for two years, then I would prefer to do a swap for a device without it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not being a whiny ***** about it, it all of them were like that I wouldn't care. But since there are units without it, and I'm paying to own the phone, I would rather get one that won't bother me each time I pick it up.
P.S: on the light leakage. I KNOW RIGHT! My iPhone 3G got swapped 3 times for a light leak, it's a huge issue in darker areas. Can't believe that slipped through, but I can live with it if I have to, since it seems like every unit has it.
theres a kickstand?
kidding ... mine sits completely flush. if you get a case it would eliminate that problem.
Perhaps it is not suppose to be flush and those with flush kickstands have defective units.
Mine is flush...
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...Don't get me wrong, I'm not being a whiny ***** about it...
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Really? Could've fooled me.
Which brings me to another point, does everyone's earpiece speaker grill have holes that are only halfway showing, or is it just me? It's really irritating, not that I'm complaining about it, but I may try to swap if mine's the only one.... <---Sarcasm if you missed it.
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Really? Could've fooled me.
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Dude chill. The point of this thread was to see if everyone had this issue or just me, since I knew my phone was a return when I bought it. Why even read through all the posts to find that if you were just gunna be a troll?
Mine protrudes slightly. Not a big deal IMO. But interesting to see some are flush.
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Dude chill. The point of this thread was to see if everyone had this issue or just me, since I knew my phone was a return when I bought it. Why even read through all the posts to find that if you were just gunna be a troll?
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Nothing to chill about... get real. I posted a sarcastic comment, doesn't make me a troll.
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Hey guys, I'm sure most of you have realized that the camera on the evo sticks out like crazy, so how do you rest it on the table? i'm always paranoid I'll mess up the camera
I'm 99% sure the kick stand would solve that dilemma. But hey I'm no genius
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I'm 99% sure the kick stand would solve that dilemma. But hey I'm no genius
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I don't want to pull out the kickstand every time I put down my phone, i'm likely just going to get two rubber bumpers to put up near the top corners.
Is it really that big of a pain to deploy the kickstand?
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Is it really that big of a pain to deploy the kickstand?
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EVERY SINGLE TIME, yes
Not to mention more chance of it getting broken
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I don't want to pull out the kickstand every time I put down my phone, i'm likely just going to get two rubber bumpers to put up near the top corners.
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~Agrees.
That what i'd probably do. A very small one.
I kickstand it. It takes half a second to pop it out with my ring finger.
get a full-body case for the phone
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I kickstand it. It takes half a second to pop it out with my ring finger.
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That's what I thought. I'm sure I will do the same. The kickstand is aluminum, right? Little chance of breaking it...
Personally I bought a screen protector and set it face down. Everyone wins!
i probably won't kickstand it too often.. all u need is some dumbass to walk by, accidentally hit ur phone and send it flying.. good bye evo
I never kickstand it when I want to set it down. I just put yet on its back and even though the camera glass is touching the table it doesn't have any scratches.
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pretty much any case will wolve the problem, honestly, I'm probably going to cut out a circular protector for the glass on the camera, that way i both don't need a case, and I don't have to kickstand it ALL the time(most of the time i probably will just because the kickstand is awesome and i can use it as a clock if needed).
If the covering over the lens is real glass, then scratching will likely not happen. Glass used in these situations is extremely scratch-resistant.
I wont want to pull the stand out every time either. That would get to be a PITA. Im going to look at body gloves also
I saw one of best buy's demo models on dislay in the store and the camera didnt seem to poke out far enough to hit a surface. Of course this is based off of visual estimation. Plus I cant imagine the HTC developers would overlook something like that.
I'd just use the kickstand or put it back in the pocket.
I's just wanna show the kickstand off.. "Yeah, my phone can sit up... Whatever you know I get the best stuff..."
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Hey guys, I'm sure most of you have realized that the camera on the evo sticks out like crazy, so how do you rest it on the table? i'm always paranoid I'll mess up the camera
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Put it in a case
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I don't want to pull out the kickstand every time I put down my phone, i'm likely just going to get two rubber bumpers to put up near the top corners.
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I cut up some pieces of leftover bike tape (the stuff that goes on the handlebars) and made a little box around it, its soft and feels good in your hands, protects the EVO's (strangely unprotected) camera BUT does admittedly make it look a bit ... odd. As odd as it may look, it does completely put my mind at ease about messing up/scratching the lens.
HTC placed a kickstand at the back so you wouldn't worry about things like this. So I guess we should use it for it's intended purpose.
Okay here's the deal.. I currently have an HTC Desire, and I recently tried the SGSII.. My desire is a FREAKING TANK! I cant hurt it no matter what I do, including sending it flying across the room more times then I care to admit.. the glass has one tiny light scratch from when it spent a day in my pocket with my keys.. The SGSII on the other hand, I dropped it (rather gently) from my pocket the day I got it, and the case got a huge ugly gouge!
We've all seen the video of the guy taking his keys to the glass, which is what you should be able to do with any smartphone, but how does the actual case housing stand up? anyone got any stories of terrible incidents it survived unblemished?
I am hard on my phones.. I dont deny it, so I want something that will handle a beating and I'm kinda skeptical of Samsung after my experience with the SGSII.
P.S. my alternate is the Amaze
I too had a Desire and I have to say I am very pleased with the build quality of the GN. I can't say I've thrown my brand new phone across the room or even dropped it yet (I'm not the most accident prone) but it seems to be a sturdy piece of kit!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc5JjPU4Xh0
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We've all seen the video of the guy taking his keys to the glass, which is what you should be able to do with any smartphone, but how does the actual case housing stand up? anyone got any stories of terrible incidents it survived unblemished?
I am hard on my phones.. I dont deny it, so I want something that will handle a beating and I'm kinda skeptical of Samsung after my experience with the SGSII.
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If you were unimpressed by the build quality/durability of the SGSII casing, not much is going to change with your feelings on the GN. Its built pretty much out of the same materials. You're best off sticking with an extra case if you get it.
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Dropping it on carpet just proves that the screen/internals won't break from a hard fall. I think what OP is referring to in the case of his old SGSII is big gouges or scratches in the casing, which the GN will probably suffer from the same way.
I ordered this for good measure..lol
http://www.ebay.com/itm/26090122267...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3353wt_1072
Yes I was referring to actually dropping it.. Every other week my desire gets knocked off the living room table, or the like. I don't actively throw it or go out of my way to be rough, but we have an active house, And things happen. I guess I'll have to look into a very slim case, as I usually just toss it in my Jeans front pocket And go.
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I ordered this for good measure..lol
http://www.ebay.com/itm/26090122267...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3353wt_1072
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Good to know.. but with my luck, having an extra case on hand in case of a disaster would jinx me. Then if I dropped it the screen would probably shatter...lol
Well there was that thread where a guy cracked his screen.
The bit that worried me was when a second guy posted his cracked too. He put it in his pocket as normal, got to work and the screen was cracked :/
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The bit that worried me was when a second guy posted his cracked too. He put it in his pocket as normal, got to work and the screen was cracked :/
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Sounds like BS to me. There had to be something in his pocket putting a lot of pressure on the glass. And he must wear some skin tight jeans for that to happen... or something bashed his phone.
I always put my phones in my jeans pocket. OG Droid, and Nexus S. Always keep that pocket empty but my phone.
so, i've got way too much time on my hands and was looking for a brushed aluminum style back cover to match our cameras online. I could find nothing. i started looking into the process of melting aluminum, which is surprisingly easy, as is creating the brushed effect. as of right now i currently have my back cover pushed into some drywall mud (no modeling clay) and drying so that i can form the second half of my mold. just thought i would inform you guys of my insanity!
TL;DR : trying to make an aluminum back cover from scratch.
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so, i've got way too much time on my hands and was looking for a brushed aluminum style back cover to match our cameras online. I could find nothing. i started looking into the process of melting aluminum, which is surprisingly easy, as is creating the brushed effect. as of right now i currently have my back cover pushed into some drywall mud (no modeling clay) and drying so that i can form the second half of my mold. just thought i would inform you guys of my insanity!
TL;DR : trying to make an aluminum back cover from scratch.
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I wonder how that will work as far as cooling is concerned. Post some pics when you've got it all set.
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I wonder how that will work as far as cooling is concerned. Post some pics when you've got it all set.
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I think antenna reception would be a bigger concern. Still, I would totally plunk down some cash to buy one, if you figure out how to do something easily repeatable...
Keep us posted, this sounds like a really cool idea!
i'll definitely let you guys know how it goes. good to know people care because it will keep me from stopping half-way through. haha. i'll probably do most of it this weekend. the drywall mud was pretty dumb, im probably going to use a greensand mold and see what i can do with that. ill just do the dividing line along the back of the back cover.
the bad news: greensand is hard as hell to find at stores or anything
good news: i have scrap aluminum, and i can borrow my girlfriend's dad's propane torch. i went out and bought plaster of paris tonight. Going to set up the mold tomorrow morning and once it is hardened i can start the process of melting+pouring+setting the aluminum in the mold.
turns out walmart sells plaster of paris in a big purple box covered in flowers, which made it somewhat difficult to find considering nobody there knew what it was....
bottom half of the mold is set and drying. here's hoping i can get it back out. haha.
Looks like it might be kinda hard making sure the holes for the speaker are cut out properly!
i made sure the plaster got far enough into the holes to make an imprint, but not far enough to seal the back to the mold.
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i made sure the plaster got far enough into the holes to make an imprint, but not far enough to seal the back to the mold.
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thats good! Do you have a dremel or something else to smoothen out edges? Molds typically create a lot of extra garbage on the side that needs to be cut off... Your using aluminum right?
If yours comes out good and doesnt hinder the signal quality too bad, i think i might do the same
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thats good! Do you have a dremel or something else to smoothen out edges? Molds typically create a lot of extra garbage on the side that needs to be cut off... Your using aluminum right?
If yours comes out good and doesnt hinder the signal quality too bad, i think i might do the same
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yeah, i've got plenty of tools and scrap aluminum. depending on how well it turns out/how it affects the phone i may offer to sell them to people on here.
that isnt to say that buying one will be the only way to get one. I will be sure to post a full and detailed tutorial when i am finished for anyone adventurous enough to attempt it.
No to be a pessimist but did you notice that there is something on the original cover that seems to be taped in the cover? I figure an antenna?
How will you do it?
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I've noticed no difference in signal quality with the back cover removed so I don't think the back cover's antenna helps a whole lot lol.
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No to be a pessimist but did you notice that there is something on the original cover that seems to be taped in the cover? I figure an antenna?
How will you do it?
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i've been without a back cover while it is setting for about a day now and haven't noticed any adverse effects.
bottom mold is done, and looking pretty good besides a few air bubbles that i need to fill.
You may want to look at the back cover a little more closely. The warning message to not scratch the sheet makes me think the back cover also helps to serve as an antenna possibly??? Not sure, but it seems odd to have the warning.
About the sticker being an antennae, that never crossed my mind. For some reason I always assumed it was something to distribute heat away from the battery.
Both possibilities seem very plausible though.
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You may want to look at the back cover a little more closely. The warning message to not scratch the sheet makes me think the back cover also helps to serve as an antenna possibly??? Not sure, but it seems odd to have the warning.
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it crossed my mind. however, like i said earlier, i was using the phone without a back for over a day and a half and didnt notice any adverse side effects (aside from the battery falling out.)
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You may want to look at the back cover a little more closely. The warning message to not scratch the sheet makes me think the back cover also helps to serve as an antenna possibly??? Not sure, but it seems odd to have the warning.
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I think thats for NFC
nfc would be nice. How do we use it if its there?
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I got my note 4 days ago. At first everything was ok, but yesterday I noticed my device is terribly creaking. Almost every time I touch the back it sounds like the plastic would break a little bit (Although I don't think it would actually break).
Do you have the same issues? Or should I sent it back and get a new one, since it's really annoying me...?
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Nope.
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This ^
ArticFox918 said:
This ^
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This x2.
yanni_puffin said:
I got my note 4 days ago. At first everything was ok, but yesterday I noticed my device is terribly creaking. Almost every time I touch the back it sounds like the plastic would break a little bit (Although I don't think it would actually break).
Do you have the same issues? Or should I sent it back and get a new one, since it's really annoying me...?
Thank you )
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Mine creaks a little in the bottom right corner. Everything else is fine. I think it's the plastic back giving a bit. I had this on the Nexus 10 as well.
Creaking is for Hollween not for my Tablet!
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I got my note 4 days ago. At first everything was ok, but yesterday I noticed my device is terribly creaking. Almost every time I touch the back it sounds like the plastic would break a little bit (Although I don't think it would actually break).
Do you have the same issues? Or should I sent it back and get a new one, since it's really annoying me...?
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Yes, When I held the tablet with my left hand to touch the screen with my right it creaked like a rock band with bad music! Geeish.....the silver chrome or whatever the material is wasn't tight and it just bend. I returned it right away. I really didn't want to return it. However, I paid full price and not second hand money so I expect the performance to be right, that means no noise. When listening to music or watching a movie it seems as if someone was moving around and that can be pretty annoying. I tried holding it different ways with no change. So back it went. Let Samsung sell. This I know imagine you trying to sell it to the next person, what do you think they might say and how much will the value go down?
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yanni_puffin said:
I got my note 4 days ago. At first everything was ok, but yesterday I noticed my device is terribly creaking. Almost every time I touch the back it sounds like the plastic would break a little bit (Although I don't think it would actually break).
Do you have the same issues? Or should I sent it back and get a new one, since it's really annoying me...?
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Yes, As soon as I opened the package, I noticed the bottom right hand corner was creaking an popping. It is not like I was looking for it. That made me investigate if the rest of the trim was doing the same. If you put your mind into into it, you can get some creaking from other ends of the trim but nothing like the bottom right hand corner. Every time I pick it up, it is annoying me so much that I feel I should take it back. I am not sure the guys at PCWorld would accept this as a reason for full money back or replacement claim. I do like the tablet, but do not want a noisy plastic in my hands.
Is this enough of a reason to ask for a replacement?
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Yes, As soon as I opened the package, I noticed the bottom right hand corner was creaking an popping. It is not like I was looking for it. That made me investigate if the rest of the trim was doing the same. If you put your mind into into it, you can get some creaking from other ends of the trim but nothing like the bottom right hand corner. Every time I pick it up, it is annoying me so much that I feel I should take it back. I am not sure the guys at PCWorld would accept this as a reason for full money back or replacement claim. I do like the tablet, but do not want a noisy plastic in my hands.
Is this enough of a reason to ask for a replacement?
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Sadly I dont think it is (pure guess so dont take my word for it) BUT I can 100% say that your Tablet will have a little bit of lightbleed along the bottom and sides....this alone is a good enough reason for them to accept and exchange - Good luck.
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Sadly I dont think it is (pure guess so dont take my word for it) BUT I can 100% say that your Tablet will have a little bit of lightbleed along the bottom and sides....this alone is a good enough reason for them to accept and exchange - Good luck.
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Hi,
Could you please elaborate on the light bleed issue. How do you determine if you have a light bleed and what is the significance of it.
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kashbg said:
Hi,
Could you please elaborate on the light bleed issue. How do you determine if you have a light bleed and what is the significance of it.
Regards,
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Put screen britghness to 100% and open this http://www.net-tracker.net/android/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/black_bg_1024x768.png, make sure it covers the entire screen inc notifications part and then switch off your lights in your room and you will then see light bleed, Its nothing major and common on LCD'S but it is a valid reason for a return/exchange.
I had lightbleeding on my first note but I found it to be acceptable however on my 2nd tablet I found the bleeding to be excessive and off putting so I got a refund from John Lewis,
Anyways this thread should give you an idea too - best of luck :good: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554094
Geordie Affy said:
Put screen britghness to 100% and open this http://www.net-tracker.net/android/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/black_bg_1024x768.png, make sure it covers the entire screen inc notifications part and then switch off your lights in your room and you will then see light bleed, Its nothing major and common on LCD'S but it is a valid reason for a return/exchange.
I had lightbleeding on my first note but I found it to be acceptable however on my 2nd tablet I found the bleeding to be excessive and off putting so I got a refund from John Lewis,
Anyways this thread should give you an idea too - best of luck :good: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554094
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Thanks,
Nope, no creaking and barely any noticeable light bleed (Just 2 spots on the bottom i have to tilt to see)
Eric214 said:
Nope, no creaking and barely any noticeable light bleed (Just 2 spots on the bottom i have to tilt to see)
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mine creaking along left side
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mine creaking along left side
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same here
Got mine 2 weeks ago, and it sounds like a bowl of snap, crackel, and pop, sitting on bubble wrap.
If i look at it wrong, it makes noises. I might take it back and have them look at it... see if that warrants an exchange.
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Nope, no creaking and barely any noticeable light bleed (Just 2 spots on the bottom i have to tilt to see)
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If your one is not creaking then this definitely should be a rightful exchange claim for all those unfortunate to pick up badly put together tablets.
I am even considering getting my money back and going the Apple way. Excellent build quality, and I know that because I got some for the kids.
yeah maybe idk. Sammy is also known for build issues lately so you have to really inspect before you take home. The Note 3 home button is all wonky and wobbly on a lot of units.
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yeah maybe idk.
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Sorry for the question, but what is "idk" in your post?
Having a creaking case, would that get worse in terms of speading all around the tablet's trim?
Any experiences but no guesses please!
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Sorry for the question, but what is "idk" in your post?
Having a creaking case, would that get worse in terms of speading all around the tablet's trim?
Any experiences but no guesses please!
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"IDK" means "I Dont Know".
I guess if the creaking was coming from say a loose glass to the digitizer i think it could be something that spreads. Since if the glass isn't glued down well enough i could see slight dust getting in there and causing more separation over time. I doubt this is the case as you'd see bubbling at the edges if that was happening.
Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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Since the day or so after the initial recall I decided for once in my life I'll throw caution to the wind and take the plunge of no case or screen protector on my phone, It made me a little sick to my stomach to peel off the screen protector and case and take off for a busy day of work and school with nothing protecting my phone from damage. I figured I'd see a plethora of scratches by the end of the day, and I was able to try this test out because of the recall and Samsung promising to take the phone back regardless of the condition. To my surprise, nothing, not a single scratch, day 2, same and so on.
Fast forward a few weeks, recall phone is traded - STILL IN PERFECT CONDITION, not a screen protector or case has touched it in weeks. Granted I still coddled it, but no different than I would any phone I've had, and I treated the phone like it had a Screen Protector and case on it. Threw it in my pocket, laid it on my desk at work, sat it in my center console in my truck etc. Not a single scratch or dent.
Trade the phone in on Sept 21st and got my new "Safe" Note7, decided that I finally felt comfortable with going "Naked" on my phone after the recall device and have since, so about another week with my "Safe" device and still not a single mark or scratch to be found. I'm actually in the process of getting a replacement for my replacement through Samsung, nothing major, just a lack of quality control on Samsung's part that I have an issue with with this replacement device and Samsung is giving me no hassle about it. I assume my phone suffered from the rush of trying to fix the recall ... but who knows.
Anyways, I will continue going "naked" on this phone, I have no reason not to. And a screen protector just destroys the feeling of this beautiful phones feel and functionality, and really so does a case. i own the LED Wallet case which I love and plan to use here and there, and I probably own around 20 other various cases that I'm sure I will use for fun here and there, But for the most part I've felt the "Naked" feeling and there's no going back lol.
Point of this thread is, I'm not sure how people that are complaining about this phone being "easily scratched" are treating their phones, or if they maybe got defective glass or something. I haven't had a single problem, and when i say I'm anal about my phones it's an understatement, and I feel 100% confident in using this phone protection-free on a daily basis. Obviously you still have to take care of this phone and be extremely careful .... it's made of glass after all. And I cant endorse its drop capabilities lol, That i have no idea of, and hope i never do. But for anyone wondering how this phone holds up with no protection and a pretty active daily use ... so far with my Note7 ... perfectly fine, still looks like the day I opened it.
What issues did you have with your replacement that has caused them to replace the replacement?
This is an interesting test to run - i still have my original one, and the replacement, because Samsung decided the closest drop-off location for me is about 3.5-4 hours away without traffic... I'll be waiting until they call and give me another method to return it. Think I might carry it around and see how it holds up... would be an interesting test, as I'm pretty hard on my devices.
really good to hear your note 7 not scratching easily, I think most ef the people posting geting scratches out of the blue, were careless, honestly not remembering what could have probably scratched their phone, it just takes 2 or 3 people reporting the same thing to drive many others real paranoid, I got my note7 on 29th Aug, and not a single scratch, I treat my phone as any other one, if you spend a sizeable ammount of money, the best way to do is use common sense, and normal level of care
I've never used a screen protector on my original and now replacement Note and all is fine. Now I definitely use a case cause i find this phone too slippery without one... I do take caution, always put it down/away if distracted with something else and never place it in my pocket with anything else like your supposed to.
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What issues did you have with your replacement that has caused them to replace the replacement?
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The metal bezel on the left hand side of the phone is sharp, like almost razor-blade sharp. You cant see if from looking at it, but you can scrap your hand off it and it feels sharp and uncomfortable to hold. and the corners of the phone where the back glass meet the metal is also sharp on all 4 corners, the right side of the phone is smooth as silk though. very weird, but almost seems like it was clued together fast and off centered and shipped out to meet demand. $900 for a phone i HAS to be as perfect as possible, but this one wasn't forgivable.
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really good to hear your note 7 not scratching easily, I think most ef the people posting geting scratches out of the blue, were careless, honestly not remembering what could have probably scratched their phone, it just takes 2 or 3 people reporting the same thing to drive many others real paranoid, I got my note7 on 29th Aug, and not a single scratch, I treat my phone as any other one, if you spend a sizeable ammount of money, the best way to do is use common sense, and normal level of care
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Yep, just be careful, life happens and that's not up to you, but if you're careful and conscious of your phone on you you should be alright, my wife is horrible about that, I drive a beefed up semi-lifted truck and EVERY time she goes anywhere with me, she places her phone on her lap and then hops out of my truck forgetting the phone was sitting on her lap. Drives me nuts. Her Note 4 has seen some shxt in its day, but still looks good and functions perfect, she wants to upgrade to a Note 7 which i hope she does, but shes gonna have to start paying more attention, because one of those falls out of my truck is going to destroy a Note 7 lol. Clumsiness for the most part can be prevented, just being aware, my phone is the most expensive thing I carry on me, so I always make sure its protected, and to be honest I've seen people smash phones wrapped in tempered glass screen protectors and otter-boxes, stuff happens, but I do my best to avoid it.
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I've never used a screen protector on my original and now replacement Note and all is fine. Now I definitely use a case cause i find this phone too slippery without one... I do take caution, always put it down/away if distracted with something else and never place it in my pocket with anything else like your supposed to.
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Oh this phone naked is like holding a wet bar of soap, its horribly slippery, But I guess that's the price you pay for a beautiful glass device lol I enjoy the way the glass looks and feels, but I do fear the slipperiness of it, so for me again anytime I pull mine out of my pocket I always ensure my grip is on point, anytime I feel the need to "whip" my phone out really fast I take a breath and realize that i don't actually need to lol, and when I hold the phone, i comfortably hold it with my pinkie finger under it so the phone rests on my finger. Bottom line ... take care of your stuff and be mindful and you should be alright, people treat phones like crap then complain that it cant take a beating ... drives me nuts ... its glass. Treat it like a $900 piece of glass lol.
Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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At least you have a replacement! I put a clear skin on the front and back of mine before I ever powered it on. I'm OCD and any scratches would annoy me and plus I want to keep it in mint condition so if I ever go to sell it on swappa it will be in like new condition. Even with the skin on it, I'm still babying it. What's crazy is my mother had an S4 and she is not easy on phones and after almost 2 years of use on that phone the sides and screen had not a scratch, not even a slight one (I know because I just sold it on swappa and inspected it very close). The screen and edges were still in like new mint condition. Only the removable plastic back had signs of wear. That's kind of sad when you think that a 3+ year old device made by the same company as the note 7 has a more durable screen. I replaced my V10 with the Note 7 and after months of use on my V10 with no protection it still looks new. I stopped using screen protectors and cases 3 years ago because I just hate the added bulk but unfortunately I'm not taking the chance with the Note 7. The clear skin doesn't really bother me though. And I'm thinking about also getting a calicase.
Anyway, thanks for the update. I'm glad I read all the post and not just the first one lol. I think you should edit post 1 so others who are lazy and only read post one don't go and take off their protection and then end up with scratched phones
P.S. I almost forgot. I'm actually on my second note 7 because the first one never made it out the store without getting scratched up. I had them put a screen protector on it for me and they took my phone in the back of the store for like 20 minutes and then come out with a poorly attached protector and then I inspected the phone and they had scratched the back up bad. So I made them replace it.
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At least you have a replacement! I put a clear skin on the front and back of mine before I ever powered it on. I'm OCD and any scratches would annoy me and plus I want to keep it in mint condition so if I ever go to sell it on swappa it will be in like new condition. Even with the skin on it, I'm still babying it. What's crazy is my mother had an S4 and she is not easy on phones and after almost 2 years of use on that phone the sides and screen had not a scratch, not even a slight one (I know because I just sold it on swappa and inspected it very close). The screen and edges were still in like new mint condition. Only the removable plastic back had signs of wear. That's kind of sad when you think that a 3+ year old device made by the same company as the note 7 has a more durable screen. I replaced my V10 with the Note 7 and after months of use on my V10 with no protection it still looks new. I stopped using screen protectors and cases 3 years ago because I just hate the added bulk but unfortunately I'm not taking the chance with the Note 7. The clear skin doesn't really bother me though. And I'm thinking about also getting a calicase.
Anyway, thanks for the update. I'm glad I read all the post and not just the first one lol. I think you should edit post 1 so others who are lazy and only read post one don't go and take off their protection and then end up with scratched phones
P.S. I almost forgot. I'm actually on my second note 7 because the first one never made it out the store without getting scratched up. I had them put a screen protector on it for me and they took my phone in the back of the store for like 20 minutes and then come out with a poorly attached protector and then I inspected the phone and they had scratched the back up bad. So I made them replace it.
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Lol good point, I updated the first post. And yeah I'm ridiculously anal with my devices, But i'm wondering if I need to start loosening up lol. I keep these phones pristine for a year then trade them in (AT&T) my last phone the S6 Edge + (Miss that phone) was M-I-N-T when I turned it in, protector on the front and back, which looking back at it now I realized that i suffered not having the full feel of the phone so that AT&T can sell it top dollar and the next person gets a great deal on a mint phone, who for all I know will; not care and destroy it. Now I'm not saying I'm gonna start being rough with my phone, gonna use my LED case more, and I just ordered a Skinomi Full body protector (we'll see how that goes, I don't have much faith in it) and if it feels like shxt, it's coming off and I'm gonna enjoy the phone as I have been, and get my moneys worth, and AT&T can figure out to do with it when I upgrade.
The Note 7 was designed to be naked, no doubt about it ... but the execution was botched and going naked comes with a price, which sucks, but again the fact is, this isn't my phone in the end, and as much as I love it, I know i wont pay it off once the Note 8 rears its head next year lol so screw it, I'll give the Skinomi Protector a shot, if it's crap, them I'm not gonna sweat the phone getting light scratches ... I'm having a bit of an anxiety attack just typing that, But i'll just have to work at it and get through it lol
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Lol good point, I updated the first post. And yeah I'm ridiculously anal with my devices, But i'm wondering if I need to start loosening up lol. I keep these phones pristine for a year then trade them in (AT&T) my last phone the S6 Edge + (Miss that phone) was M-I-N-T when I turned it in, protector on the front and back, which looking back at it now I realized that i suffered not having the full feel of the phone so that AT&T can sell it top dollar and the next person gets a great deal on a mint phone, who for all I know will; not care and destroy it. Now I'm not saying I'm gonna start being rough with my phone, gonna use my LED case more, and I just ordered a Skinomi Full body protector (we'll see how that goes, I don't have much faith in it) and if it feels like shxt, it's coming off and I'm gonna enjoy the phone as I have been, and get my moneys worth, and AT&T can figure out to do with it when I upgrade.
The Note 7 was designed to be naked, no doubt about it ... but the execution was botched and going naked comes with a price, which sucks, but again the fact is, this isn't my phone in the end, and as much as I love it, I know i wont pay it off once the Note 8 rears its head next year lol so screw it, I'll give the Skinomi Protector a shot, if it's crap, them I'm not gonna sweat the phone getting light scratches ... I'm having a bit of an anxiety attack just typing that, But i'll just have to work at it and get through it lol
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I got the Skinomi clear skin and its been great so far. After you attach it give it a day to settle onto the phone because at first it doesn't look good but after a few hours I noticed it looked a lot better and the next day it looked perfect. The only problem I had was getting the sides to stick. I even used a blow dryer and I just couldn't get them to stay down but I ended up using the top burners on my stove to heat the edges up and then they stuck and they haven't come up since. The s-pen still slides smooth as well with the white inserts. It does have a bit of a texture which I could see would annoy some people but it doesn't really bother me.
What material are your pockets made out of, sandpaper? My original Note 7 (recall replacement arrives today) has never seen a case or screen protector and is completely unscathed. I have not even been as gentle as you described. So weird.
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Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see.
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I certainly believe your report of your observations and recollections, but your experience differs sharply from my own. I've been using unprotected Note 7s heavily (pre- and post-recall) for about a month, and I've acquired no scratches whatsoever.
When I check for scratches, I always use direct sunlight or a comparably bright source, and I rotate the phone through a range of angles in order to see any subtle defects. It sounds like that's not something you've been doing routinely, but rather something that just recently happened by chance. If that's the case, you may not really know when your scratches arose (or even whether your previous devices might have had similar scratches), which may complicate the diagnosis of how they occurred.
I trust we agree that the careful treatment you described could not have scratched even ordinary glass, let alone Gorilla Glass 5. So there are several possibilities. Perhaps the phone scraped against something sharp (even while it was in your pocket) without your noticing. Perhaps the process of applying or removing the case or screen protector scratched it somehow. Perhaps it came with subtle, hard-to-notice scratches already on it. Or could it even be that the phone isn't scratched, but rather has some sort of residue that rubbed off on it? (Have you tried washing it off with a wet paper towel and substantial pressure?)
Again, I trust your observations, but I'm curious as to how your scratches arose, and how your experience diverged from my own. I appreciate your taking the time to update everyone on your situation. And regardless of how the scratches happened, I'm glad you're getting a replacement.
Like i said, being so anal i looked at the phone everyday after naked use, never noticed any scratches, but last night I caught direct light at a side angle and saw the back bottom scratched, from 2 feet away from your eyes looking straight at the phone, looks perfect, up close and examining it with angled light it's def scratched.
When i say im careful, I'm careful... I got the cold sweats when i saw the scratches lol I've coddled thus phone with mittens since i got it, like i said I lay it on tbings and then move that whenever I set my phobe on my desk for no otger reason but to avoid sliding my phone on any surfaces ... pocket always empty and clean, I don't play in the dirt or go to the beach, pockets feel like normal clean pockets lol. I mean people can make excuses for tge glass, he'll i did too when i saw the initial scratch posts, even started a thread praising the scratch resistance ... I seriously don't know how much more careful you can be with a phone as i have been with this one and it still scuffed. I'll grab some pictures with the wife's phone and post them.
It almost seems like theres a raised lips right before the glass dipps down.
Attached is a pic illustrating the damage on my phone almost exactly (until i can grab a few pics) ... and also attached is why I think its happening.
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Attached is a pic illustrating the damage on my phone almost exactly (until i can grab a few pics) ... and also attached is why I think its happening.
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You just wanted to use the fancy s-pen features and that drawing was your excuse. ;P
And I don't blame you :laugh:
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Like i said, being so anal i looked at the phone everyday after naked use, never noticed any scratches, but last night I caught direct light at a side angle and saw the back bottom scratched, from 2 feet away from your eyes looking straight at the phone, looks perfect, up close and examining it with angled light it's def scratched.
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Right, that was my point. Until last night, your inspections didn't include checking the surfaces through a wide range of different illumination angles. As a result, subtle scratches went unnoticed and you don't know when they happened (or even if the phone came with them).
When i say im careful, I'm careful...
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I believe you. But something nevertheless scratched your phone--any idea what it could have been? You and I are both careful with our phones, yet only one of us acquired any scratches. There has to be some explanation for that difference. Figuring out what it is might help us, and others, to avoid scratches in the future.
It almost seems like theres a raised lips right before the glass dipps down.
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Hm, I don't see that on mine. May I ask what kind of screen protector(s) you had been using? If liquid, could it have left a residue? If solid, could the protector itself have scratched the glass that it was in contact with?
Or another possibility: if you used a case initially, could a few sand or grit particles have gotten lodged between the case and the phone? It looks as though the scratches may have been in areas that a case would have contact with. That's one of several reasons that I'd be reluctant to use a case with an all-glass phone.
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Right, that was my point. Until last night, your inspections didn't include checking the surfaces through a wide range of different illumination angles. As a result, subtle scratches went unnoticed and you don't know when they happened (or even if the phone came with them).
I believe you. But something nevertheless scratched your phone--any idea what it could have been? You and I are both careful with our phones, yet only one of us acquired any scratches. There has to be some explanation for that difference. Figuring out what it is might help us, and others, to avoid scratches in the future.
Hm, I don't see that on mine. May I ask what kind of screen protector(s) you had been using? If liquid, could it have left a residue? If solid, could the protector itself have scratched the glass that it was in contact with?
Or another possibility: if you used a case initially, could a few sand or grit particles have gotten lodged between the case and the phone? It looks as though the scratches may have been in areas that a case would have contact with. That's one of several reasons that I'd be reluctant to use a case with an all-glass phone.
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No case or screen protectors since I got this phone last Sunday (Oct 25th) I didn't recall any scratches on my recalled unit so I didn't bother with protecting the replacement. But regardless, I don't recalled a single incident in which would result in these scratches, so they must have happened during light use of the phone, how they happened? I don't know ... but they did .... The glass just seems soft and easily scratch-able. It shouldn't be, but unfortunately it is. And agreed, I've seen scratches come up from case use on my phones before so that is always a concern, but I didn't use a case on this phone, and I never sat the phone down on a hard surface, and never in a pocket with anything else, and the weird isolated scratched areas don't show signs of "pocket damage" ... they came from somewhere I get that, but wherever they came from, they happened with no effort or force.
Inspected my new phone that came in yesterday. Not a single scratch to be found in any light ... Screen protector should be in today so it'll get wrapped before I even use it and we'll try again ... I recommend to anyone who has a Note 7, wrap it up and keep it clean, this issue just may not be avoidable with everyday use.
Is GG5 on the back as well as the front? My rear is scratched only after 2 weeks replacement and general it wears a case. NOT impressed.
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But regardless, I don't recalled a single incident in which would result in these scratches, so they must have happened during light use of the phone
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Well, the phone wasn't scratched by the skin of your hand, the cloth of your pocket, or the piece of paper you rested it on, so there must have been some other contact that you're unaware of. (I'll occasionally notice a small cut or bruise on my arm without recalling what contact was responsible. It happens.)
Regardless, thanks again for the update you posted, and good luck with your new Note 7. If my Note 7 ever suffers the slightest scratch, I will follow your example and post an update here too. So far, a month of heavy, unprotected use has not resulted in any visible imperfection.
I don't get why people are nitpicking this. I get this tone of "maybe you were careful but not careful enough". It sounds like we are discussing handling an egg.
The physics of it are simple and irrefutable, this thing will scratch, there is no way around it. And just because one hasn't scratched yet, or appears that way, doesn't mean it won't.
At this point, regardless of what anyone says or who wants to debate, it's safe to say yhe phone WILL scratch with normal, even careful use. I was one who thought "well the people with scratches must be abusing their phones" but as i type this on a scuffed, yet coddled Note7 I stand corrected. It doesn't affect my love for the phone but it should be noted that it WILL scratch easily regardless of how you treat it, i wish it didn't ... but it does. And I don't think it's batched based, pretty sure maybe even if you dont see any scratches there are probably some on your phone as I found by badically doing a microscopic forensic look at my phone the other day, the shinyness of thr glass seems to hide a lot of imperfections.