Poll: Sense vs NonSense - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I just want to get a feel for what peeps are using these days.
Do you Sesnse or NonSense ROM?
At first I like Sense when I bought the phone, but now I like nonSense better each day. Although, I still missed some of the widgets such as FriendStream from Sense though.

Ever since I started using Launcherpro, I don't think I can use Sense ever again. The only Sense App I miss the calendar lol.

I love the weather animation on the homescreen and most of the widgets

I like sense and the widgets, but I cannot believe that the evo didn't get the ability to have a landscape homescreen. I had been using Zen's MyTouch2 port on the hero and it has the ability to rotate the full sense homescreens.... Why they wouldn't include this for a phone that has a kickstand and is obviously going to spend time horizontal is beyond me.
Anyway, I prefer horizontal homescreen orientation for use in my car dock. I haven't had time to pull all the apps I don't want out of my Flipz build yet, but when I do I will probably switch back to Helix and delete all the sense apps and widgets...Until we get a sense build that rotates or until we get a real AOSP build. I would love to use a Cyanogen build with the 360 degree rotation built it, that is the coolest feature IMO.

I used to like Sense. Evo is my first Android phone. I thought Sense was great from watching reviews and such.
After a while, I started to get more and more into custom ROMs. I flashed the test build of Froyo on to the Evo and it was great.
I realized I never used any of the widgets except for the switches, and there are nonSense alternatives. I just like the nonSense 'feel', I guess. No real explanation, just a preference.

I loathe Sense. The rounded corners. The gimmicky widgets. I like a nice clean interface. adw.launcher is working pretty good on 2.1, but vanilla Froyo is the best.

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[Q] Hybrid ROM?

I would firstly like to express my gratitude to everyone involved in making the Incredible live up to its name.
I have cycled through various ROMs, and at one point I had SkyRaider 2.5.2 Vanilla. (This is my first Android-based device, so if I use n00b terminology don't flame me to death.) The homescreen looks to be stock android, as opposed to the Sense "Themes", but I must admit, the selection of widgets is awful. I really like the HTC homescreen widgets, like the flip-clock and weather widget.
Basically put, is there a way to get the HTC Sense widgets in a vanilla flavored ROM?
I know this would require running both Sense UI and whatever would be running the stock Android home screen. I downloaded the apks and I would get an error message saying "Application not installed" when I tried to put on the HTC widgets.
(Sorry, typically I would research what exact terms I'm looking to say but I'm feeling lazy today.)
Thanks in advance!
rmaccamr said:
I would firstly like to express my gratitude to everyone involved in making the Incredible live up to its name.
I have cycled through various ROMs, and at one point I had SkyRaider 2.5.2 Vanilla. (This is my first Android-based device, so if I use n00b terminology don't flame me to death.) The homescreen looks to be stock android, as opposed to the Sense "Themes", but I must admit, the selection of widgets is awful. I really like the HTC homescreen widgets, like the flip-clock and weather widget.
Basically put, is there a way to get the HTC Sense widgets in a vanilla flavored ROM?
I know this would require running both Sense UI and whatever would be running the stock Android home screen. I downloaded the apks and I would get an error message saying "Application not installed" when I tried to put on the HTC widgets.
(Sorry, typically I would research what exact terms I'm looking to say but I'm feeling lazy today.)
Thanks in advance!
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Beautiful widgets is a good place to start. It's in the Market.
Beautiful Widgets is nice and it's really customizable. I really only wanted the Sense style flip clock with the weather, so I went with Fancy Widget.
As far as getting Sense stuff in SR Vanilla, you can do it but it takes some monkeying around with what needs to be installed in order to make other stuff work. If you're wanting Sense stuff with Vanilla styling, the best thing to do is to get a Vanilla theme. I think someone had one called tainted vanilla or something. It should lay right over the top of Sense... You'll still have the Sense launcher, but you can add another launcher app (I use ADW.Launcher) to make it feel less like Sense.
Best option if you want sense-like widgets on a Vanilla ROM is to use LauncherPro Plus and Beautiful Widgets.
That'll cover just about everything.

[Q] Cyanogen with sense

is it possible to get cyanogen's mod with the sense ui...basically the best of both worlds
In a short answer- No. What exactly do you need from sense ui (rosie) and cyanogen specifically? What do you want from one or the other? Deficitism and ihtfp69 have created roms that combine the best of both worlds one would say with Uncommon Sense and Skyraider Vanilla. So reply with what you specifically want in the rom...and I can better recommend things for you.
Add IncDoes Sense/AOSP "Best of Both Worlds" to that list. Its not fully stable but it might be something to watch. This is an AOSP rom with some sense elements integrated, like the camera, gallery and dialer (I think). However you wont find Rosie (the sense launcher) on any AOSP roms here yet. The two mentioned in the previous post are sense roms that have been trimmed down.
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well for sense widgets i really like the clock with the weather, favorites widget, and friend stream and i lock the lock screen too, but the vanilla on is nice because you can set phone to vibrate from there.
Sounds like Uncommon Sense may be the rom you want. It's got those things you've listed
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Use cyanogen.. get beautiful Widgets for the clock from the market. Get launcherpro and use the friends widget. The friend widget is the same as friendstream.
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Thanks for the help guys
At this point, koush or cyanogen woulden't put sense into CM. Thats what Makes CM a really good stock AOSP rom. For the Best of both worlds I would definitely try a Sky Raider rom. XD
Sac's Droid said:
is it possible to get cyanogen's mod with the sense ui...basically the best of both worlds
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=737602
This is probably the closest you'll get with AOSP. Other then that I'd recomment Skyraider Vanilla, which is based off sense so you get the sense goodies with the vanilla look.
If you want specifially Cyanogen, which is made to be Vanilla android, you can install the Black Notification bar which will put sense icons on top instead of the vanilla ones

HTC Flip clock on cyanogen?

I want to get cyanogen, but I LOVE the look of sense. Honestly, its the only reason I still run stock sense on my Dinc. The weather animations are just awesome.
Is there a way to get a functioning HTC flip clock on cyanogen, with weather animations and everything?
hybrid86 said:
I want to get cyanogen, but I LOVE the look of sense. Honestly, its the only reason I still run stock sense on my Dinc. The weather animations are just awesome.
Is there a way to get a functioning HTC flip clock on cyanogen, with weather animations and everything?
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Nope, sense only
It's built into the framework
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hybrid86 said:
I want to get cyanogen, but I LOVE the look of sense. Honestly, its the only reason I still run stock sense on my Dinc. The weather animations are just awesome.
Is there a way to get a functioning HTC flip clock on cyanogen, with weather animations and everything?
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As someone who once loved the clock, seriously ditch it and come over to Cyanogen (they have bacon!).
For ~$2 you can buy Beautiful Widgets which work perfectly on Cyanogen and can be skinned to look like the HTC Clock. Get away from Stock man, there's so much more to be had.
Zoon0n said:
As someone who once loved the clock, seriously ditch it and come over to Cyanogen (they have bacon!).
For ~$2 you can buy Beautiful Widgets which work perfectly on Cyanogen and can be skinned to look like the HTC Clock. Get away from Stock man, there's so much more to be had.
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Really? I've seen the beautiful widget clock, and its kind of gross. I love the launcher pro plus widgets, but they need launcher pro to run (I think?), and stock cyanogen launcher is more functional.
hybrid86 said:
Really? I've seen the beautiful widget clock, and its kind of gross. I love the launcher pro plus widgets, but they need launcher pro to run (I think?), and stock cyanogen launcher is more functional.
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There are several dozen different skins you can download and apply. Also another good one is Fancy widget. That's pretty similar. I don't think either do the weather animations though...someone correct me if I'm wrong.
For ~$2 you can buy Beautiful Widgets which work perfectly on Cyanogen and can be skinned to look like the HTC Clock. Get away from Stock man, there's so much more to be had.
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While Beautiful Widgets and Fancy Widget try to mimic sense, they are still not the same. The real sense widgets are still the best IMO.
I don't think it's necessary to "get away from stock" with the Incredible. Between TouchWiz, Blur, Sense, etc, I think Sense is BY FAR the best and the smoothest interface and framework.
With that being said, I do run CM7. But I miss Sense every day, it is a tough decision for me and I cannot just say hands down that AOSP is better than Sense. I do encourage modding, and if you like Sense, at least get a Sense based ROM.
Hypcrsy said:
There are several dozen different skins you can download and apply. Also another good one is Fancy widget. That's pretty similar
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I tried them all. They all look vastly inferior to the real thing. They all look significantly less sharp and they never get the proportions right (all look stretched).
I'm still hoping for a near identical knockoff someday.
erack said:
I tried them all. They all look vastly inferior to the real thing. They all look significantly less sharp and they never get the proportions right (all look stretched).
I'm still hoping for a near identical knockoff someday.
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You won't get a near identical one anytime. All the ones that looked like it had HTC come after them, telling them it had to change.
SynbiosVyse said:
I don't think it's necessary to "get away from stock" with the Incredible. Between TouchWiz, Blur, Sense, etc, I think Sense is BY FAR the best and the smoothest interface and framework.
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You forgot acer's liquid... which I think is the best by far. I can't stand sense anymore, it's too business-y for me. I like myn's though, that's about as far as my love for sense goes though.
There's an older version of Fancy Widget with an identical Sense look floating around the interwebs. Google it.
Also, Beautiful Widgets does do unlock animations but not quite as smooth as Sense.
karnovaran said:
There's an older version of Fancy Widget with an identical Sense look floating around the interwebs. Google it.
Also, Beautiful Widgets does do unlock animations but not quite as smooth as Sense.
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Looks just like the HTC one, but doesn't do weather animations or flip animations. I'll live without that...I just like the look of that clock haha. Using it with CM7 now.
Definitely switch to CM7 and LPP. It's my setup now and I love it. I've flashed other ROMs but I honestly can't make it through the day without flashing back to gingerbread.
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There's an older version of Fancy Widget with an identical Sense look floating around the interwebs. Google it.
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Wow, it really is identical! Thanks for the tip.
Look up stoney666 in the theme section. He has some kick ass clocks in there.
Not sure how I sent this??
Jes7er said:
Definitely switch to CM7 and LPP. It's my setup now and I love it. I've flashed other ROMs but I honestly can't make it through the day without flashing back to gingerbread.
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I agree while I do love Sense and I enjoy using the Sense based ROMs, I always want to go back to gingerbread.
I think CM is the way to go if you always want the latest version of Android.
Personally, I like ADW a lot better than LP though. At least the most recent versions of ADW I really like.
Why dont you try skyraider sense 3.5...you can install a custom theme over it to look almost like stock android, and plus you get to have all the htc widgets and the htc apps...see, i have mine with skyraider sense and a a gingerbread theme
---i still prefer the beautiful widgets clock though
I use the newest Fancy Widget Pro with the H7C skin. Looks identical to sense clock!
I just compared Fancy Widgets H7C skins vs the stock sense (remember to change to flip clock) and they look pretty damn spot on. Only thing different is the weather animations were a little better on the sense, but you're just being picky if you want to complain about that.
schwartzman93 said:
Why dont you try skyraider sense 3.5...you can install a custom theme over it to look almost like stock android, and plus you get to have all the htc widgets and the htc apps...see, i have mine with skyraider sense and a a gingerbread theme
---i still prefer the beautiful widgets clock though
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What is the widget you are using here for the forecast? I've never seen that before. Is that sense?
I said in my post that its beadutiful Widgets..but with skyraider sense you can use all the HTC stuff
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I said in my post that its beadutiful Widgets..but with skyraider sense you can use all the HTC stuff
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Beautiful Widgets is one of the many ones I tried, it was a lot blurrier than Fancy Widgets 1.3

sense vs gingerbread

I just installed the Amethyst gingerbread port... wow. It is so amazingly quick and responsive.. and some of the features are amazing.. I particularly like the music player.
but I miss the Sense experience.
so does anyone know of a *great* theme going round that offers a decent looking clock and weather widget? I'd rather avoid paying, but I will if necessary.
Install this:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ru6m0w
It's a direct copy of the HTC clock/weather widget that was removed from the Market. It was always free so I'm not breaking any rules posting this, btw
cool, thanks.
can you think of anything else worth adding to bring back that familiar feeling?
Not really, other than the Sense Live wallpaper
oh thought of something.. do you know of any htc widgets floating around on the net?
LauncherPro has some sense-like widgets but in full version only.
Sense widgets, funnily enough, only work with Sense
I really miss the 2D Sense gallery, manual focus from Sense Camera and HTC Facebook sync...
This features make me always come back to Sense (HD)...

Why is HTC Sense 3.0 better than GO Launcher?

I've got a rooted and deodexed Inc2 running Virtuous Unitity 2.39. Ihave the HTC Sense 3.0 it comes with as well as GO Launcher...and have Home Switcher App to change from one to the other.
It seems to me that having the 5 button selection bar on the bottom (that can be swiped and added to unlimited times) is so much more efficient use of space and provides better choice that it removes any rationale to have anything like HTC Sense with it's standard three choices (and only two which are really used much).
What am I missing? Why can't others have the great lower selection choices of GO Launcher (is it correct calling this the Rosie bar?)? What does the HTC Sense give me that is more functional and useable?
The VU2.3.9 runs fine and was a clean and easy install.
If you change the launcher from Sense to something else, don't you lose the other Sense add-ons like the Weather Widget, Lock Screen and Themes?
You do lose the sense Widgets but like go and launcher pro they have built in Widgets. The lockscreen is an additional apk. Themes will stick as far as status bar goes. Also launcher pro, adw, and go launcher have downloadable themes.
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If you change the launcher from Sense to something else, don't you lose the other Sense add-ons like the Weather Widget, Lock Screen and Themes?
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No with launcher pro plus
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The only reason I use Sense 3.0 is for the gadgets and the purdy interface, I would have switch to something else like the gingervanilla, other AOSP or RMK debloated stock rom if I were to use Go launcher.
You do lose some Sense widgets, but the lockout screen stays tied to Sense. For example, I have the weather on the lockout screen, but even when I switch to GO, the lockout screen after has the fancy weather animation.
I get a "sense" that there is not really a reason to deal with the HTC Sense launcher other than looks, but if I am wrong, let me know where.
I do know that I love having the 5 button rosie which I can spin to more 5 button rosies at the bottom. Much better use of screen real estate.
Sense is nice and its all preference
Can you know to me what's this your theme ?
i like the battery...Im using ROM BAMF...so Can I use this theme?
knipp21 said:
No with launcher pro plus
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Are you sayin that running LauncherPro Plus over Sense you can still load the Sense widgets, and they work?
TheAtheistReverend said:
Are you sayin that running LauncherPro Plus over Sense you can still load the Sense widgets, and they work?
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No launcher pro plus has the "sense" widgets built into the launcher. They are look alike
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I didn't like the sense-like Widgets. They didn't have the same feel as the real thing. But I do still prefer LP to anything else including Sense (most of the time)
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I think that is a loaded question. My thinking is Sense is for people that like Sense and AOSP roms are for people that don't care for it. I'm just trying to make things simple.
IMO, sense feels more professional, while anything else is for enthusiasts. And the Widgets in lpp are cool and all, but really they are a joke compared to the sense Widgets. And the intergration is nice too, something aosp hasn't done yet.
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devator22 said:
IMO, sense feels more professional, while anything else is for enthusiasts. And the Widgets in lpp are cool and all, but really they are a joke compared to the sense Widgets. And the intergration is nice too, something aosp hasn't done yet.
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I actually don't care for the Sense widgets or the Rosie launcher at all. I use the Pure Messenger widget from the Market, and while it's not as pretty as a Sense widget, it combines e-mail, text/sms messages, phone calls, facebook and twitter into a single messaging widget as opposed to Sense's separate widgets for each.
As for the launcher, I just can't justify dedicating the whole bottom of the screen to 2 buttons - the app drawer and the phone button. The customize button is stupid, once you have the phone set up the way you like, that button is largely useless.
Of course, these are just my opinions, but to me, Sense is far from superior/more professional than anything else.
The Clock with weather is the main reason most stick to Sense, it has a cleaned look/feel that add to the homescreen. I personally can't do AOSP I miss the weather clock from sense until I switch back, I love unlocking my phone to a new animation
Weselers said:
The Clock with weather is the main reason most stick to Sense, it has a cleaned look/feel that add to the homescreen. I personally can't do AOSP I miss the weather clock from sense until I switch back, I love unlocking my phone to a new animation
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Fancy widget pro is better than the sense clock, you can get the senseclock, plus tons of different themed clocks, that is what i use. I like the sense photo album widget, which is pretty much the only widget that doesn't have a replacement app. I can't say i enjoy sense when very much and i usually run an AOSP rom (omfgb currently) but have a couple nice sense rom backups on my phone for when I'm itching to use sense.

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