Ok, so I have scoured the threads and learned a lot, but I'm still a noob at this development process. What I'm trying to do is reconstruct an nbh from an nTelos rom from the stock. I have created a backup with all 4 raws and even reconstructed it using several methods, namely the raphael method posted with juggler raphael rom kitchen. This is probably the reason I'm getting the errors.
After reconstructing it to nbh, I flash and get a code 244 Invalid Model.
I am posting my backup with hopes someone can help in anyway. If someone could give me a few pointers, I'd appreciate it.
meanngreen04 said:
Ok, so I have scoured the threads and learned a lot, but I'm still a noob at this development process. What I'm trying to do is reconstruct an nbh from an nTelos rom from the stock. I have created a backup with all 4 raws and even reconstructed it using several methods, namely the raphael method posted with juggler raphael rom kitchen. This is probably the reason I'm getting the errors.
After reconstructing it to nbh, I flash and get a code 244 Invalid Model.
I am posting my backup with hopes someone can help in anyway. If someone could give me a few pointers, I'd appreciate it.
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I don't think you should be using a kitchen for other devices (namely Raphael). Head over to Chef Central and you will certainly get more support there. You could try to use EVK to cook, which is a generic kitchen with support for the Vogue (Ondraster's kitchen works very well too!)
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Newbie question. I don't understand, what is difference between a kitchen and tools like mamaich's ? At first I thought they were the same but now I'm not sure because I keep seeing references that don't make sense.
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Post removed? That's it? Pardon me....Look, I know this is a newbie question but I am honestly confused as to what the definition of kitchen is. If I use mamaich's tools to prepare, view, etc. I end up with what seems, to me, to be a similar thing as a kitchen. Are they the same? Is there something about a "kitchen" that is fundamentally different than only using the tools? I have read many, many pages here and I'm honestly trying to understand. Please point me in the right direction. Thank you.
edit: sorry, I thought "post removed" in the earlier post meant I got my message removed from the forum by an admin, anyway, my question still stands.
Since the unhelpful member above failed to give you a decent answer, I will help you. Tools are either a program or a set of programs designed to do a task with the roms (for example, Mammich's tools are designed to help you edit the imgfs part of the rom). A kitchen is a set of tools (made by various people) designed to edit the whole rom or most of the rom and build your own custom roms.For future reference, if you ever have any other questions about rom building, let me know and I will help you out as much as I can.
Thank you very much Steven855 and I appreciate the offer to help.
I originally gave an inadequate answer - thus the removed post. Home ill with the flu, Nyquilled up and forgot which section I was in (thought I was in the Kaiser specific section and gave an answer associated with that). No ill intentions, so to speak.
What I will say is the various tools are something a newbie should probably feel comfortable using. Before using a kitchen, read, learn and flash a number of others' custom ROMs. While the great developers here have made cooking custom ROMs very easy with the kitchens, you can cause a lot of problems with your device if you don't know what you're doing.
No ill intentions taken. Like I said, at first I misunderstood and thought my post got nixed by an admin. btw notwithstanding Steven855's helpful answer, I had my question answered earlier on another thread when the same question came up.
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My understanding is the kitchen implies each module (with its associated registry - RGU - files and dlls etc.) is explicitly separated so it can be incrementally and selectively combined. What we are doing here is taking an existing set of ROMs and combining the dlls, exe etc. by hand - there isn't a handy gui where you can select which module you want. Also, the registry is necessarily hand crafted too. So by using the extract/rebuild tools, we are making a ROM, but it isn't a kitchen, more a roadside burger van!
Thanks again, really enjoying this site, and learning alot.
Steven855 said:
Since the unhelpful member above failed to give you a decent answer, I will help you. Tools are either a program or a set of programs designed to do a task with the roms (for example, Mammich's tools are designed to help you edit the imgfs part of the rom). A kitchen is a set of tools (made by various people) designed to edit the whole rom or most of the rom and build your own custom roms.For future reference, if you ever have any other questions about rom building, let me know and I will help you out as much as I can.
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Hi Steven. I was wondering if you knew about ROM cooking for Verizon CDMA devices..ie the i730? I was looking around to see where I would be able to find the bootloader for it but I haven't found any answers yet. Thanks.
Sorry! Unfortunately, I don't know anything about rom cooking for pocket pc phones (yet). I'm still trying to get the hang of this rom building stuff myself (after 2 failed attemps to make an updated rom for the axim X50(mid)).
Hey guys,
I've been trolling the forums for some time now, and I have yet to find the answer that I am looking for in regards to cooking my own ROMs - specifically for the HTC Vogue (Bell). I have looked through all sorts of stickies/readmes, but I still cannot figure out how to put it all together...
I've got a stock ROM from Bell, it has been extracted (so I have the bootloader, .nbh file and so on)...
Now HOW do I extract the .nbf, or even edit it for that matter? The only solution that I have found is the UNIX-based one, but I'll be honest, PERL and I dont get along well...is there a GUI or commandline based solution for WIN32?
I feel dumb for asking, but if someone could help me figure out the editing/compiling/flashing aspect, I'd be forever grateful
Thanks.
Most of the kitchens will take that nbh and parse it out in to the OEM and SYS folders you need.
I would suggest you search for DogGuy's command-line kitchen, and use that as a learning tool as he has batch files that automate most everything, and yet you can go through them to better understand what is happening.
Good luck!
Also some recent threads at ppcgeeks on this topic with useful info.
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Hey guys,
I've been trolling the forums for some time now, and I have yet to find the answer that I am looking for in regards to cooking my own ROMs - specifically for the HTC Vogue (Bell). I have looked through all sorts of stickies/readmes, but I still cannot figure out how to put it all together...
I've got a stock ROM from Bell, it has been extracted (so I have the bootloader, .nbh file and so on)...
Now HOW do I extract the .nbf, or even edit it for that matter? The only solution that I have found is the UNIX-based one, but I'll be honest, PERL and I dont get along well...is there a GUI or commandline based solution for WIN32?
I feel dumb for asking, but if someone could help me figure out the editing/compiling/flashing aspect, I'd be forever grateful
Thanks.
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Here is the link: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20550
Follow JD's instructions.....Test.....Test.......Test the ROM to make sure its stable before posting for others to use
Thanks D
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Here is the link: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20550
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Yeah, I did check that post, however, it seemed that they were a step ahead of me...the tools that were provided did not (both gave application errors on launch...?).
Thanks for the replies, any one else have other tips, pointers, etc?
PPCGeeks.com is the answer...I still haven't found it yet...there's too much info on that site. Have you seen this thread:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=18745
By following that method its a TON of work...and that's using a 'kitchen' someone already made. What you and I want to do is create our own kitchen by stripping a stock rom...and there aren't any guides on how to do that...I'm assuming because that's even MORE work. So basically a (TON of work x MORE work) = Fu%$ that.
If you find a somewhat easy way to do this before I do, post it for us!
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PPCGeeks.com is the answer...I still haven't found it yet...there's too much info on that site. Have you seen this thread:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=18745
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Hey, I didn't see that thread yet, looks interesting, thanks!
Now, I can't wait 'till I get home from work...
What is the tool set needed for creation of custom ROMs?
Is there a good FAQ anywhere on the subject?
There are a lot of pieces of information here and there but it seems to be hard to find one place that would simply enumerate the tools and basic steps involved.
obender said:
What is the tool set needed for creation of custom ROMs?
Is there a good FAQ anywhere on the subject?
There are a lot of pieces of information here and there but it seems to be hard to find one place that would simply enumerate the tools and basic steps involved.
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Go to the xda wiki, and read in the Kaiser coking section.
The procedures are almost the same, except for the kitchen.
You should use Juggler's or better yet, Surface's kitchen.
Maybe bepe will release his kitchen sometime soon too.
Happy cooking.
Hello all I am new to this forum but I hope I can find the answers to my problems here. First off I have looked all over the site for NFO to a solution, but I only found bits and pieces, or information that was a little over my head.
This is my problem: I have a an HTC 6800 through US Cellular, I want to upgrade Windows Mobile to the most current version (6.1) I believe, but HTC does not have the upgrade for the USCC version of this phone on their site, and USCC will give me no tangible information either. Plus I would like to enable the GPS. Are there any step by step, easy to follow articles on doing both of these upgrades? Remember I am new to this so the easier to follow the better. Thank you all for any assistance on this and for providing this wonderful forum.
The Titan section of the forums will be where you want to go.
I used this guide (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24511) to upgrade mine.
Beginners guide for the Titan - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TitanForBeginners
The XDA Titan wiki: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Titan
Some other useful info I've compiled: http://sites.google.com/site/victorbush/htc-6800-1
Hope this points you in the right direction!
The directions say to use Titan_No2Chem_5060_WM6.1. Where do I get this and how do I use it in BuildOS?
Actually using the builds that came with BuildOS (like WM6.1 20931) worked for me.
If you're interested ftp://up.ppcgeeks.com/Titan/Users/No2Chem/ has No2Chem's stuff. The kitchen RARs are in the Basekit folder. You'll put that in the BuildOS\Kitchens folder. You'll also want to extract the selections text file from the basekit rar and put it in the projects folder. You may have to tinker with the selections file a bit to get it working properly.
Here's the first 7 lines of the no2chem selections file i used for 5060 (i didn't try any others):
SelectionsVersion=.90.04
KitchenDir=Kitchens\basekit 5060.rar:
ModuleDir=Kitchens\PPCkitchen_OEM.rar:
ModuleDir=Kitchens\PPCkitchen_OEM_VGA.rar:
ModuleDir=Kitchens\PPCkitchen_Addition.rar:
ModuleDir=Kitchens\Generic_OEM.rar:
ModuleDir=USER_OEM
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Again I thank you vicbush. When I installed BuildOS and then patched it, the first time I opened it it gave me no options in the new project screen, after I updated it again then it gave me some options but none of the ones you have shown me. So I am reinstalling BuildOS and I will let you know if that helps.
Vicbush, I thank you. With all your help and your tutorials on changing carrier name and getting data back up, I am now the proud owner of a USCC HTC 6800 running WM6.1. Again thank you so very much.
With some help from me, manelscout4life dumped his LG Expo.
Links here:
Part00 and Part01: http://rapidshare.com/files/330408837/part0.zip.html
Part02: http://rapidshare.com/files/330404062/Part02.zip.html
Enjoy!
(don't forget to vote against XDA's stance of only doing HTC! )
MIRRORS:
Part00 and Part01: http://rapidshare.com/files/334116367/part00and01.zip
Part02: http://rapidshare.com/files/334116370/part02.zip
awesome work guys! if i hadnt been at a funeral id have been on there helpin out. nonethe less... fantastic work!
i just hope to see some custom roms soon!
we'll i think we might need to focus on getting the phone's SSPL or Hard SPL so continuous flashing is possible eh?
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(don't forget to vote against XDA's stance of only doing HTC! )
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Where is the vote? Not to hijack the thread, but it's known that we're going to go 6 months without anything better than the HD2 from HTC meanwhile LG, Samsung and Acer are pumping out WM phones yet there's no XDA support so they will inevitably lack the same base support as we continue to salivate over HTC and it continues to pump out Android phones...We'd all be better off if XDA moved with the industry.
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Where is the vote? Not to hijack the thread, but it's known that we're going to go 6 months without anything better than the HD2 from HTC meanwhile LG, Samsung and Acer are pumping out WM phones yet there's no XDA support so they will inevitably lack the same base support as we continue to salivate over HTC and it continues to pump out Android phones...We'd all be better off if XDA moved with the industry.
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wouldn't we all be better off if we just got along?
Awesome that you were able to dump the eXpo rom, but we can't do anything with just a dump. We had this problem with the Incite. We had to wait for an official rom because the way LG makes their roms. The format is a .dz file and there are parts of this file that is needed to cook a rom which is not found with a dump.
We would need the actual dz file in order to deconstruct it, dump the contents, cook, and then reconstruct the dz file. Without the dz file we can't flash.
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Awesome that you were able to dump the eXpo rom, but we can't do anything with just a dump. We had this problem with the Incite. We had to wait for an official rom because the way LG makes their roms. The format is a .dz file and there are parts of this file that is needed to cook a rom which is not found with a dump.
We would need the actual dz file in order to deconstruct it, dump the contents, cook, and then reconstruct the dz file. Without the dz file we can't flash.
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Right the dz file will be helpful but this is nice for just hacking up the phone we have now or porting the apps as well. With the dump there can be driver hacks made and all kinds of other fun goodies its a start...
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we'll i think we might need to focus on getting the phone's SSPL or Hard SPL so continuous flashing is possible eh?
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But we dont even know yet if we will need one we need an spl dump so we can check to see if it needs a signed image or not
This is def. very exciting and I very much look forward to seeing things getting ported from this phone to all of our other WM phones!! So we can have pieces of this phones apps/programs running in our phones to play with!!
GREAT JOB NOW LET THE FUN BEGIN
meh
that was faster than I expected. Great work!
Dark9781 said:
Awesome that you were able to dump the eXpo rom, but we can't do anything with just a dump. We had this problem with the Incite. We had to wait for an official rom because the way LG makes their roms. The format is a .dz file and there are parts of this file that is needed to cook a rom which is not found with a dump.
We would need the actual dz file in order to deconstruct it, dump the contents, cook, and then reconstruct the dz file. Without the dz file we can't flash.
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Just because you can't do anything with a dump because it doesn't give you all the stuff you need, doesn't mean it isn't useful for other purposes.
Apps porting, driver research, etc. I am personally not interested in flashing the LG Expo (mainly because I don't have one) but I was in need of the dumps.
So... shortsighted much?
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This is great!!!
I tried to dump my LG IQ which is the Canadian version of this phone, but didnt work too long at it, and I fail because the phone said device not ready in the dumping process.
If you want to PM me with how you did it, and give me a bit of advice, I would be willing to try again.
The Telus and AT&T versions are slightly different, one difference being that the Telus phone has a slightly newer version of windows ce on it.
Telus 5.2.21868.5.0.69
AT&T 5.2.21749..don't know the rest
Awesome job......
Installing this CAB on your phone and rebooting should get rid of that pesky error:
http://www.jongma.org/tmp/MultASync_Security_Policies.cab
(Taken from MultASync project)
Aside from that, it's just pdocread / raw dump as usual ...
For an example of the commands, see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501871
As a fellow user of the LG Expo, would be more than happy to help out as I can.
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Installing this CAB on your phone and rebooting should get rid of that pesky error:
http://www.jongma.org/tmp/MultASync_Security_Policies.cab
(Taken from MultASync project)
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Sorry to say, it didn't work for me
tried installing the cab, and tried editing the reg manually to the values in the cab....
any other ideas?
Not really... all we did is hook up the device correctly, install that cab, excute the commands and we had a dump ...
Thank you Chainfire! Telus IQ ROM dump
OK I am now feeling like an idiot.
Yes, the disk on the IQ is called DSK1: not FLASHDR
Yes, this cost me being at least two weeks later than I needed to be.
Yes, I goter dun tonight....
rofl
Easy mistake to make: but rest assured, everyone only makes this mistake but once, and probably every dumper once made it
Sorry, I should of been a bit clearer, but when I said we can't do anything with just a dump I was referring to cooking. Someone had mentioned seeing custom roms soon so I was just pointing out that that wouldn't be possible until we get a base rom to work with. If I confused anyone it was not my intention.