I have decided to root and I have configured all the necessities such as the adb. I was informed that the newest upgrade(ending in .6) could not be rooted, therefore I searched the thread about the downgrade and it appears as though the author claimed the method of downgrading obsolete and I can root the phone without downgrading. I'm at a loss here and would appreciate further information.
Bump... Someone help?
I'm running the .6 version and I rooted just fine. You do not need to downgrade. Just make sure in the future your do not download unedited updates from sprint because that might mess up your root.
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I been waiting forever and not doing any updates due to all the crazy wimax issues. Since the new OTA is rooted would it be safest to update my wimax by running the OTA and re root using the new root method? Please let me know if this isn't the way to go or not. Thanks so much devs for all your hard work. Mod if this is in the wrong section please move.
No, the new root method for the OTA just downgrades everything so you can get access again.
If you haven't done the OTA, I would suggest using the simple root .1 and then flashing something else. The idiot proof guide in the dev subforum is pretty helpful and has a lot of pictures if you prefer that method.
The "How to start over: Fully rooted stock 1.47..." method is very easy and worked great on my phone. As long as you already have root, NAND unlocked, and the Engineering HBOOT, I would go that route. (see thread for the details, Engineering HBOOT 76.2 is the real requirement.)
Yes I have root and nand. Currently running fresh 0.53. I wasn't sure what was the best method of updating the wixmax. Are the current methods out safe yet? Im comfortable in doing the radio. I was just wondering if the OTA updates the wimax differently from just flashing or somehow. Just a little bit worried of running into wimax issues since I do get 4g in my area.
By the question you can tell that i'm rather inexperienced at this, but a buddy of mine(who has a Droid on VZW) and i were debating whether or not doing an OTA update after you root would cause you to loose your ability to root forever.
I guess it's different on both devices, but he contends that he could unroot his droid, which is running a custom 2.2 ROM, install an OTA update, decide he doesn't like it, then just go back to a 2.1 RUU from VZW or Motorola, and then re-root.
Everything i have read here about the EVO indicates that if i am already rooted, and i accept an OTA update, then i will never be able to root again. Does never, really mean never? Or is it just mean that i won't be able to root using the current methods to root the phone?
What if i had never rooted and then accepted the OTA 2.2 from sprint that may be coming this week, would i then be able to root?
What exactly does the update do to remove the ability to get /root access to the phone? Something with the bootloader, HBOOT, or what?
Thanks for the information. Hopefully, this will settle this question for my friend and I.
Chris
OTA updates typically break any existing root methods, and disable any current root access.
Some OTA's also update the phone in a manner which prevents older official roms (that have working roots) from being reinstalled.
At that point, you have an updated rom with known roots removed, that can't be rolled back, so the only option is to wait until another root exploit is found and released. Which may or may not happen depending on the device and whoever is working on it.
Hope that helps.
You can take and accept as many updates as you want....you just have to modify that update by replacing the new hboot with the engineering one.....that way you can freely flash zip files
HTC is tricksy and they dont let you roll back after the OTA. Motorolla may not have this so your friend may in fact be able to roll back to 2.1 (however he may be misinformed as well).
To root basically they find a bug to exploit that allows us to gain access as a root user. when the OTA updates come out 99% of the time they will fix this bug. HTCat least blocks roll backs so now you are on a new version of the software that you can not go backwards and the bug to root is no longer there.
While there are normally other bugs that can be exploited to get root it is possible that there isnt one or that if there is no one can find it. if they cant find it then it could remove your ability to root permanently.
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You can take and accept as many updates as you want....you just have to modify that update by replacing the new hboot with the engineering one.....that way you can freely flash zip files
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while true accepting an OTA will not give you the chance to do this for most.
ok, that explains things a little better. thanks.
I'm new to all of this as well. My EVO has already been updated OTA by a Sprint employee while I was purchasing the phone. From what I've read it looks like I'm SOL until someone cracks 2.2. One quick question though... How long did it take people to be able to root the first software on the EVO's?
Hello all and thank you in advance for any help or suggestions.
I followed a lifehacker.com guide called the "always up to date" rooting guide.. Which led me to rooting my HTC T-Mobile G2 using the Visionary method via the XDA Post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
The process seemed to be succesfull, I have updated my ROM with Cyanogen's update-cm-7.0.3-vision-signed.zip, which is incredible, and all seems to be working well. My questions are:
1. Should I be looking in to 'undoing' my root with Visionary as it seems to be depreceiated, and if so how would I do that.
2. What will happen when T-Mobile pushes their officail OTA 2.3 update, which should be any time now.
This is a great time to say thanks to all of the dev's and people who put this stuff out there. Thanks!
Well I wouldn't say you used Visionary to root your phone. I followed same method and G-free was used to root your phone. Visionary was just there to give you temp root access. I'd get rid of Visionary at this point as its of no use anymore and could do more harm than good.
As far as unrooting, I wouldn't worry about it too much. The only situation you may wanna consider unrooting is if you run into some hardware issue and need to get a replacement, and even then its not always necessary. The OTA that is forthcoming is something you probably don't want to mess with. It can be found on this site in the untouched form, but it will unroot your phone and bring stronger security, so you would be unable to root your phone again using the method you used or any of the other widely used methods. I'm not sure if rooted phones actually get official OTAs pushed to them. I had a rooted MT3G and got a notification saying an update to Froyo was coming, but it never got pushed out to my handset. (Which was a good thing)
You don't want to accept any OTA updates if your rooted. The best procedure to follow for root would be in the wiki with "rage" and "G-Free" here is a link to the wiki: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
Thanks for the reply's and info, I will definitely not accept any OTA updates, and I feel pretty good with this setup. Now on to exploring some ROM features..
Thanks again.
Hi guys I have another question and I am thinking I may be able to acheieve re-root by using unrevoked, but I am unsure.
My system:
Version -2.15
PRI -2.15
Software version 5053-651-1
System - 2.3.3
Kernel version - 2.6.35.10-g13578ee
The above is the current information on my phone which has an update available but I haven't performed that task yet. My question I know there is a new root for those which have upgraded to the new gingerbread, but if am correct I don't thing my replace phone has been upgraded yet with the above information listed. Since I knew I was getting a replacement phone i assumed the software info would show it as ver 2.16 which requires the new rooting method? Am I correct in this assumpstion? Also since my system hasn't been updated yet can I still use UNrevoked3 to re-root? I know it seems lenghtly but I was attempting to be clear as possible to get the best answer before I proceeded with either the rooting method or the update.
Only way is for you to root is to use revolutionary.io only way for gingerbread
Should I update my phone before I root then?
Hey,
Yeah you will need to use revolutionary, but dont worry just google it you will get youtube videos walking you how to do it.
No do not update your phone, updates can always patch things and make rooting impossible (Sadface), just jump right in follow the instructions and you will be rooted and flashing roms in no time! just one piece of advice when you are rooted NEVER EVER accept an OTA update otherwise you might just kill your root, or worse D:!
Goodluck my friend! if you need anything just pm me!
Stevo
RamesisX said:
Should I update my phone before I root then?
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You could root then just flash the latest stock rooted rom. Its up to you really I would just root now instead of updating
Yes I too learned that you must root first, a few months ago i accepted the Gingerbread update - mistake. Oh well, now im rooted using revolutionary.io
It was so easy, literally a few settings in the phone, install the driver, start rev.io, plug in your phone, type in your license key, done. reboot and ROM that *****
Happy ROMming
I had rooted my SGS3 while on 4.0.4 using the stock Samsung rom and Odin without issue no custom ROMS were installed just root access. Early August of 2013 the OTA for 4.1.2 was rolled out and I had accepted the update which was installed without issue, which apparently should not have been the case (everything I can find says OTAs will fail if you have root access, but this was not the case). I now want to either return to a full stock to get the 4.3.3 update at which point I may remain unrooted, or gain root again and update to 4.3.3 with root. I'm cautious about how to proceed here since I've read about a lot of people bricking their phones while attempting to root after 4.3.3. My primary concern is that my flash counter is tripped at 1, but I don't have root access and am not sure how to proceed with out potentially damaging my phone. So I'm essentially getting the worst of both worlds (unable to receive stock updates from carrier, no root access to update otherwise.) and don't want to be stuck on 4.1.2 for the life of this phone. I still have SuperSU installed, but when I open it it says "There is no SuperSU Binary installed and Super SU cannot install it. This is a problem!"
I have searched these forums and a few related to it, and from what I can gather I should just reroot the phone following instructions for 4.1.2, but if I want to make the jump to 4.3.3 I wasn't clear if this would be needed or not, but none of the threads I could find directly addressed the issue for the ATT SGS3 i747. The closest I found was a thread posted last month where the OP was directed to the CF Root procedures, but there was no followup after that. I'm just a little leery about what might happen if I reroot with another method and end up with duplicate files/.apks etc related to the root process on my phone.
I also wanted to be sure that rerooting using a different method wouldn't somehow damage my phone.
Can someone with some experience please advise of the safest best practice for me to either recover root and update, or remove root and update so I can start fresh later? From what I can gather this should be an easy fix, but I would prefer to rely on the expertise of someone more knowledgable as opposed to winging it on a gut feeling I will be ok.