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Okay, first timer here and I have a few questions. I just completed rooting my phone via Simple Root. My build number is now 1.17.651.1.
My questions are as follows:
1) Now that I am rooted, what installation files can I delete from my SD Card?
2) I see that I need to do a recovery flash, do I do this immediately? What one do you recommend?
3) After I do the flash, are there any others files I need to install before I do a custom rom?
4) Which custom rom do you recommend?
5) Am I leaving anything else out that I forgot?
Thank you so much in advance!
SHicks18 said:
Okay, first timer here and I have a few questions. I just completed rooting my phone via Simple Root. My build number is now 1.17.651.1.
My questions are as follows:
1) Now that I am rooted, what installation files can I delete from my SD Card?
2) I see that I need to do a recovery flash, do I do this immediately? What one do you recommend?
3) After I do the flash, are there any others files I need to install before I do a custom rom?
4) Which custom rom do you recommend?
5) Am I leaving anything else out that I forgot?
Thank you so much in advance!
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After you have rooted you can delete nearly anything you want, I wouldn't suggest doing it because I doubt you know what to do. But you do have the freedom to..
I would suggest you flash a recovery as soon as possible. It makes life easier. The two most common recovery are Amon Ra And clockwork.. I use amon Ra just because it had a better wipe feature but clockwork is used in rom manAger (look in to it).
After rooting you can look into upgrading your radio and your wimax and your kernal.
Custom roms are like sneakers, They all have different purpose and size. The most common ones are damagedcontrol and fresh. Do your research and experiment and find your sneaker. You can also just wait til the official stable cm6 comes out. For now I use fresh.
Try oUt some themes and different apps that are for rooted devices only. And there us always something neiw to do with your evo.
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I am in the same boat as OP. I managed to make my way through SimpleRoot. But I am having a heck of a time digging through the forums to figure out what to do next. I feel like kind of an idiot, but I have no idea how to set up my backup/recovery "amon ra" right? And then I'd like to install the rooted 1.47 build and update my radio and wimax. Any direction would be VERY appreciated.
Thanks for the reply. Mind pointing me in the right direction for the radio kernel and wimax?
I'm new to this too. Read up a lot first. Easy root looks to make it pretty easy, but I learned more doing it the hard way. Used the two part method in dev section, by toast I think, with adb, nand unlock and all. Helps to understand the odd file structure, and what different parts do. You have to try things too, and just hope you don't f up. Using cm6 now and its pretty cool. Have fun man.
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Liked he said read. And do a lot of it. Last thing you want is to brick your phone
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gangsterholla179 said:
I would suggest you flash a recovery as soon as possible. It makes life easier. The two most common recovery are Amon Ra And clockwork.. I use amon Ra just because it had a better wipe feature but clockwork is used in rom manAger (look in to it).
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What's wrong with Clockwork's wipe feature?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734564&highlight=clockwork
Also, as for flashing a recovery, if you install ROM Manager from the market, it will give you an option to flash either Clockwork or Amon RA. It will stay there even if you flash new ROMs later, though there's a quirk where a new ROM Manager install will ask you to flash recovery, but then if one is already there it won't really change it, it just needs to see it to believe it.
Installing new files won't make a difference if you switch ROMs. It wipes your data when you re-flash, so you'll lose it all anyway (unless you back up your apps with Titanium Backup or MyBackup). All you need is a recovery installed - and I actually recommend Clockwork, but only because I use it myself and I have no problems with it - and you can reboot into it, install a new ROM, and start playing. I've never flashed from ROM Manager, even though it gives the option, but I imagine it does the same thing, but runs it automatically after a recovery reboot.
Read the "favorite ROM" thread with the poll attached, lots of good ROM recommendations in there. I'll say it once more: I'm using Fresh 1.0.1 and netarchy's 3.7.3c kernel (Fresh-compatible version). It's so fast and smooth.
If you like your current setup but want to try a new ROM, use ROM Manager (or Clockwork as a recovery reboot) to do a Clockwork backup. That way you can return to your current state if you want to. It's basically a system image that you can restore.
Here's one helpful page to start with.
And have fun.
Back on fresh 0.5.3, clockwork was not doing a great job with the wipe, causing the boot to loop. I believe it wasn't completely wiping the dalik cache.
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I'm looking for CW 2.5.0.1(?) so I can flash radio and other files. It seems like 3.x "aborts" install with some files.
I have not been able to find the 2.5.x CW img for the Evo. Also, now that my phone is crippled (flashed a new ROM), how do I install the 2.5.x over the 3.x? ROM Manager does not give me the option to flash back to 2.5.x
Thanks for any quick help!
BTW, I'm not using RA because it doesn't seem to allow me to navigate the SD directory to chose files to flash. If there is something I'm missing, let me know.
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See post #7 below, it contains the file to get you back to 2.5.0.1!!
snovvman said:
I'm looking for CW 2.5.0.1(?) so I can flash radio and other files. It seems like 3.x "aborts" install with some files.
I have not been able to find the 2.5.x CW img for the Evo. Also, now that my phone is crippled (flashed a new ROM), how do I install the 2.5.x over the 3.x? ROM Manager does not give me the option to flash back to 2.5.x
I believe that the new clockwork is causing problems for a lot of people, myself included. I cant revert to an old clockwork like 2.5 either. I just had to flash RA 1.8 on my phone and my wife's Evo.
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Rom manager has an option at the very bottom called "all clockwork recoveries"... Use that and select whatever build you want.
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Justin.G11 said:
Rom manager has an option at the very bottom called "all clockwork recoveries"... Use that and select whatever build you want.
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For some reason that method isn't working for a lot of people, myself included. The thing that is working is to flash RA 1.8
I tried several times to revert to an old clockwork and kept getting an error.
go here... http://www.clockworkmod.com/download/recoveries/
click the supersonic recovery you want... make sure its the .zip file.
put on ur SD card and flash. hope this helps
Justin.G11 said:
Rom manager has an option at the very bottom called "all clockwork recoveries"... Use that and select whatever build you want.
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cbond007 said:
For some reason that method isn't working for a lot of people, myself included. The thing that is working is to flash RA 1.8
I tried several times to revert to an old clockwork and kept getting an error.
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Correct, the older versions in ROM Manager do not work for the Evo.
I ended up finding a pc36img.zip and flashed it. I am now back to 2.5.0.1. I don't use RA because I can't select files. It's a pain when I have a lot of files to flash.
Here is the Clockwork 2.5.0.1, packaged flashable.
Put it in the root of your SD, boot into bootloader, let it update, and life is good again...
Edit: Some additional info to save you some searching:
Make sure you flash using bootloader and NOT your current recovery. Power off, hold Vol Down, and Power On. Let it update the image, then reboot into recovery again. At that point, you should see 2.5.0.1.
ROM Manager does not properly downgrade. 2.5.1.4/3, I have been told, is not for Evo. You will need to flash manully as I described.
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It seems like 3.x "aborts" install with some files.
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There's a more sinister problem with 3.0.0.1 (which appears to have now been retracted, as ROM Manager, after updating me to 3.0.0.1, is now showing "Latest Recovery: 3.0.0.0" at the time I write this).
It's only sheer chance that I had another unrelated problem, or I would have been screwed -- the Nandroid backup is broken in 3.0.0.1 (it completed the backup operation within about 2-3 seconds, clearly not having backed up everything!)
Edit: I checked in the backup directory, and the only files backed up by 3.0.0.1 were boot.img and recovery.img
Now that I reverted to 3.0.0.0, at least the backup takes a good long time and seems to be listing all the usual stuff, but I don't feel that I can trust 3.0 now.
I'm going back to what was working for me a couple of days ago (2.5.1.2) when I tried CyanogenMod (6.1.1) for the first time. ROM Manager and ClockworkMod Recovery handled it all so perfectly that I kicked it off with checkboxes enabled for the "back it up" and "wipe" options, got called away for about 1/2 hour, and when I returned, there was CM6 in all its beauty, even including the Google apps.
Is there an "official" place to report bugs for ClockworkMod Recovery? I noticed that the clockworkmod.com web site has gone poof (Google cache shows it intact on Dec 11th).
--tgi
HTC Supersonic / Sprint EVO 4G / Hardware 002
myn's Rooted Froyo 2.2 3.29.651.5 Radio 2.15.00.09.01 Kernel 2.6.32-ge2fb08e [email protected] #11
I'm sorry, but as an AR Recovery user, I see no reason to switch to Clockwork other than being able to browse folders other than the root of your memory card for ZIPs. AR seems much more stable and has had all of the features (except that one) that CW recently had added.
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There's a more sinister problem with 3.0.0.1 (which appears to have now been retracted, as ROM Manager, after updating me to 3.0.0.1, is now showing "Latest Recovery: 3.0.0.0" at the time I write this).
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When ROM Manager prompted me to update tonight, I got 3.0.0.2. I was able to complete a backup, including the WiMax partition. Going back to the advanced restore menu, I was given the option to backup WiMax and other partitions seperately.
Does flashing work properly now?
At this point I'm afraid to try.
Product F(RED) said:
Does flashing work properly now?
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Flashing works just fine with 2.5.0.1.
snovvman said:
Flashing works just fine with 2.5.0.1.
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snovvman said:
Here is the Clockwork 2.5.0.1, packaged flashable.
Put it in the root of your SD, boot into bootloader, let it update, and life is good again...
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I have a Root folder I made in sd card and put the image file in folder in bootloader now its not reading it. what to do?
Edit: I figured it out and works perfect!! Thanks Button..
Product F(RED) said:
I'm sorry, but as an AR Recovery user, I see no reason to switch to Clockwork other than being able to browse folders other than the root of your memory card for ZIPs. AR seems much more stable and has had all of the features (except that one) that CW recently had added.
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+1 on this I will have to admit other than folder search I see nothing better about CW over AR and AR has great wiping features and usb mode. But to each its own...
Product F(RED) said:
I'm sorry, but as an AR Recovery user, I see no reason to switch to Clockwork other than being able to browse folders other than the root of your memory card for ZIPs. AR seems much more stable and has had all of the features (except that one) that CW recently had added.
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playya said:
+1 on this I will have to admit other than folder search I see nothing better about CW over AR and AR has great wiping features and usb mode. But to each its own...
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Question for yoru guys: When you flash with RA (/AR), do you just rename the file and put it into the root of SD each time? Is there an easier way to flash with RA that I am not aware of?
snovvman said:
Here is the Clockwork 2.5.0.1, packaged flashable.
Put it in the root of your SD, boot into bootloader, let it update, and life is good again...
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I tried this it says it runs the recovery but after I reboot and run rom manager it says clockworkmod 3.0.0.2. Am I missing a step?
snovvman said:
Question for yoru guys: When you flash with RA (/AR), do you just rename the file and put it into the root of SD each time? Is there an easier way to flash with RA that I am not aware of?
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Not defending CW, but it does have USB Mode. It's just tucked away in the menu.
If I'm on my PC, I download and then just drag to the phone or I use Dropbox, then Astro to move it to the root. If I'm not, then I use Astro. I don't have to rename anything.
ARG! I flashed 2.5.0.1 and still non of my old backups work they all hang at the white htc boot screen. I am just booting into recovery and running restore should I be doing something first?
please feel free to direct me to any threads I might have missed - there is sooo many on here...
I have spent the last 2 to 3 weeks reading forums & articles (mostly from xda here once I found it or sites linked from here). I think I have a lot of things down and I even attempted to start my first root but after trying to use the adb shell I could not get a response from my phone. after reading and re-reading I determined that my EVO needs a factory reset before this will work (have not done this as of yet). I even confirmed this on another thread with someone else having a similar problem.
but before I dive in again I thought it wouldn't hurt to sign up here and ask questions (even repetitive dumb ones to some I'm sure) & get input. thanks for any help in advance.
and to let everyone know a little about me - I work on computers for a living and have for quite a few years now so I am alright with technical things and electronics. (more of a hardware guy but I install software & OS's etc.) I have flashed many motherboards also which flashing the phone sounds similar.
ok so on to my questions (these are in no order either just as I remember them)
as I said flashing a phone sounds similar but it sounds like there is approximately 4 different things to flash? is that right? a ROM, a recovery tool, you're wimax partition/key (might be saying this one technically wrong), and a kernel?
is a recovery tool (which is Amon_RA or clockwork - is that right to?) completely necessary? is there a stock version? also the HBOOT is just the boot loader right? nothing to do with the recovery tool if I understand correctly.
if necessary I want to use the Amon_RA from what I have read to. do I need to download and flash this separately? I thought I read it was part of the ROM package but I can not find where I read that at right now.
btw - I have saved all my phones info (software & hardware versions) if that would help with answers
before I go further I will try to keep it brief and give some information as to what I would like (I have read those threads to so I am pretty sure about this for now) - I am looking to go with the latest SprintLovers ROM. well I would actually luv gingerbread but I'm not ready for anything to "not" work. if I understand this correctly SprintLovers should have everything stock and be unlocked. I want what I have now including my 4G (I didn't see 4G listed as not working for this ROM) to work but I want what Sprint is keeping me from taking advantage of to - all the goodness built into Froyo but mainly full non-restricted wired & wireless tethering. I have also decided to go with the deodexed (sp?) version to have everything possibly necessary.
this will take up more room though on the built in memory right?
another question arises from the above - is it not possible to just root my phone and then continue using my stock ROM? or is the stock sprint ROM also locked in some manner to some degree (like being odexed if I understand the meaning correctly)? where I would not be able to use/install apps that require a rooted device
let's see
oh yes about doing a NANDROID backup - from everything I have read it seems like this backup occurs after the rooting AND flashing of a new ROM to the phone - am I right about this? if so that means I am just backing up my NEW ROM I just flashed? and not the stock one I had from the factory? if so is there no way to backup the stock ROM? or is that just completely unnecessary and being paranoid on my end as I have read about unrooting and using a stock RUU which I guess would be the same thing my phone has right now?
is it possible to just backup the wimax partition - root my phone - flash the SprintLovers ROM and be done without flashing a kernel or the wimax partition? (is that the right order?)
as for the kernel I have read many threads on that to and would just like to continue using the stock kernel for now.
one the threads I am going by and planning to follow is...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
but I do have a question - the instructions under "Lets Get Rooted!"
- well it states to push two files to the phone - PC36IMG.zip & PC36IMG-MR.zip then goes on to instruct on renaming the first to PC36IMG-ENG.zip and renaming the second to PC36IMG.zip and flashing both - why is this? what does MR stand for? I am guessing that is not 2 ROMs is it? if it is why would that be necessary? on that thread it also says he is using the SprintLovers ROM but if I go to the SprintLovers ROM thread the instructions there don't mention flashing PC36IMG.zip twice. the download I followed from the SprintLovers thread only linked me to download one PC36IMG.zip also (which I downloaded).
lastly (i think), how does my phone know to keep it's phone number or that it is still a sprint device and that it should talk to sprint to make phone calls and such? is that built in somewhere else or another part of the built in memory that does not get flashed?
thanks again to anyone and everyone who has time to help me. feel free to point me in the right direction if you have read my post and feel I am misunderstanding something. i look forward to learning some more & finally getting my phone rooted.
(sorry about the huge post & if I posted this in the wrong spot)
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thegh0st said:
please feel free to direct me to any threads I might have missed - there is sooo many on here...
I have spent the last 2 to 3 weeks reading forums & articles (mostly from xda here once I found it or sites linked from here). I think I have a lot of things down and I even attempted to start my first root but after trying to use the adb shell I could not get a response from my phone. after reading and re-reading I determined that my EVO needs a factory reset before this will work (have not done this as of yet). I even confirmed this on another thread with someone else having a similar problem. (factory reset is NOT needed to root)
but before I dive in again I thought it wouldn't hurt to sign up here and ask questions (even repetitive dumb ones to some I'm sure) & get input. thanks for any help in advance.
and to let everyone know a little about me - I work on computers for a living and have for quite a few years now so I am alright with technical things and electronics. (more of a hardware guy but I install software & OS's etc.) I have flashed many motherboards also which flashing the phone sounds similar.
ok so on to my questions (these are in no order either just as I remember them)
as I said flashing a phone sounds similar but it sounds like there is approximately 4 different things to flash? is that right? a ROM, a recovery tool, you're wimax partition/key (might be saying this one technically wrong), and a kernel?
(technically, you don't need to flash any of these to have root. You can use Unrevoked to obtain root and keep the stock rom, kernel and recovery. Do NOT mess with flashing anything for your Wimax UNLESS you absolutely have to; meaning it doesn't work)
is a recovery tool (which is Amon_RA or clockwork - is that right to?) completely necessary? is there a stock version? also the HBOOT is just the boot loader right? nothing to do with the recovery tool if I understand correctly.
(with a customer recovery, it will make things like flashing and creating NAND back-ups much easier. Download ROM Manager (I suggest the premium version), and once you have root with Unrevoked, you can flash either clockwork or Amon recovery using this app. Please remember if you create a NAND back up with Amon, you can only restore it with Amon recovery and vice versa)
if necessary I want to use the Amon_RA from what I have read to. do I need to download and flash this separately? I thought I read it was part of the ROM package but I can not find where I read that at right now.
(some roms may include a customer recovery, yes. However, you will need root AND an unlocked boot loader (meaning "s" is off or you have the engineering hboot) to flash a custom rom that would include a custom recovery.)
btw - I have saved all my phones info (software & hardware versions) if that would help with answers
before I go further I will try to keep it brief and give some information as to what I would like (I have read those threads to so I am pretty sure about this for now) - I am looking to go with the latest SprintLovers ROM. well I would actually luv gingerbread but I'm not ready for anything to "not" work. if I understand this correctly SprintLovers should have everything stock and be unlocked. I want what I have now including my 4G (I didn't see 4G listed as not working for this ROM) to work but I want what Sprint is keeping me from taking advantage of to - all the goodness built into Froyo but mainly full non-restricted wired & wireless tethering. I have also decided to go with the deodexed (sp?) version to have everything possibly necessary. (tethering is controlled by the kernel. If the Sprint Lover's rom is based off of a stock kernel, wireless tether will NOT work. You would need to flash a custom kernel that would allow for that.)
this will take up more room though on the built in memory right?
(not sure)
another question arises from the above - is it not possible to just root my phone and then continue using my stock ROM? or is the stock sprint ROM also locked in some manner to some degree (like being odexed if I understand the meaning correctly)? where I would not be able to use/install apps that require a rooted device
(yes, you can just root the stock rom and keep that.....a lot of people prefer it this way. It will be odexed, but you can find a deodexed version of the stock rom on here if it means that much to you.)
let's see
oh yes about doing a NANDROID backup - from everything I have read it seems like this backup occurs after the rooting AND flashing of a new ROM to the phone - am I right about this? if so that means I am just backing up my NEW ROM I just flashed? and not the stock one I had from the factory? if so is there no way to backup the stock ROM? or is that just completely unnecessary and being paranoid on my end as I have read about unrooting and using a stock RUU which I guess would be the same thing my phone has right now?
(no....you are backing up your current rom so you can go back to it should you get some kind of error while flashing the new rom)
is it possible to just backup the wimax partition - root my phone - flash the SprintLovers ROM and be done without flashing a kernel or the wimax partition? (is that the right order?)
(yes, you can root with Unrevoked Forever which gives you root and changes your hboot to s-off and then flash the Sprint Lovers rom without a kernel....again, don't mess with the Wimax unless it gets borked and you have to.)
as for the kernel I have read many threads on that to and would just like to continue using the stock kernel for now. (if you want wireless tether, a stock HTC kernel will not work. Again, depending on the kernel that comes on the rom you choose, you may or not be able to use this feature.)
one the threads I am going by and planning to follow is...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
but I do have a question - the instructions under "Lets Get Rooted!"
- well it states to push two files to the phone - PC36IMG.zip & PC36IMG-MR.zip then goes on to instruct on renaming the first to PC36IMG-ENG.zip and renaming the second to PC36IMG.zip and flashing both - why is this? what does MR stand for? I am guessing that is not 2 ROMs is it? if it is why would that be necessary? on that thread it also says he is using the SprintLovers ROM but if I go to the SprintLovers ROM thread the instructions there don't mention flashing PC36IMG.zip twice. the download I followed from the SprintLovers thread only linked me to download one PC36IMG.zip also (which I downloaded).
(That thread is from November and very outdated. Do NOT try any of that because it will not work. Go here http://unrevoked.com/#evo and read. If you're tech inclined, this will be VERY easy for you to do.) Edit: I see this thread was updated 1/26. However, I am not familiar with this root method, so I prefer not to comment on it. Read, read and read. Also, check which software version your phone has and look for a root method for that particular software. Although I believe that Unrevoked currently works with all software version.)
lastly (i think), how does my phone know to keep it's phone number or that it is still a sprint device and that it should talk to sprint to make phone calls and such? is that built in somewhere else or another part of the built in memory that does not get flashed?
(How does the phone know? I don;t know, but you don't have to worry about this. You do not need to call Sprint and reactivate your phone after rooting or flashing.)
thanks again to anyone and everyone who has time to help me. feel free to point me in the right direction if you have read my post and feel I am misunderstanding something. i look forward to learning some more & finally getting my phone rooted.
(sorry about the huge post & if I posted this in the wrong spot)
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Ok, so TL;DR you are curious about rooting.
The absolute fastest and simplest way to root would be to use Unrevoked, just google unrevoked and read their guide, there is even a video tutorial step by step. Unrevoked has been updated to all versions of the EVO. When you root with Unrevoked, it automatically changes your recovery from the Stock unusable recovery to Clockwork mod 2.6.
When you flash a Rom, it comes already with a kernel, you can choose to change the Kernel but this is not required, Flashing wimax keys is not something you do, what you do is create a backup and this will backup your wimax keys. It is confirmed that Clockwork 2.6 makes a backup of your wimax keys.
You cannot make a backup of your unrooted stock rom, however as soon as you become rooted, you can make a backup of your stock rooted rom. Inregards to Clockwork vs Amon, If you root with Unrevoked you will have clockwork, if you wish to switch Ra recovery, you should follow the step by step instructions in the Ra Recovery thread in the development section.
Sprint Lovers is a Sense rom, which means it is 100% functional, the only 90% roms are AOSP(MIUI, CM, Gingerbread, ect..) if a rom is based on the 3.70 OTA Update it will be a sense rom, and be 100% functional. Before you Flash any rom, ALWAYS go into your recovery and Wipe Data, Wipe Cache, Wipe Dalvik Cache. Perform all wipes twice for best results. In Ra recovery these are all in the front page, in clockwork you need to go to advanced to access the dalvik wipe.
In regards to nandroid, you cannot do this without rooting, Once you root you will have a custom recovery, from inside your custom recovery you will select Nandroid(Clockwork), or Backup/Restore(Ra Recovery), and perform your backup. Both is these recoveries will make a backup of your Wimax keys, Ra Recovery is the only one that lets you select individual items to backup. Please also note, if you make a backup with clockwork it is only good with clockwork, and if you backup with RA it is only good with RA. So if you decide to change recoveries, you must redo your backups.
Your phone keeps its number because the only thing flashing changes is your software, it doesn't change your phones ID numbers that were activated on the sprint network.
Here are some Links for you.
Unrevoked Root Method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895208
Ra Recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
Sprint Lovers Rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830153
Again if you are new to all of this, Unrevoked is the fastest simplest method to rooting your phone.
I think you got two very good answers... Unrevoked by far easiest and trouble free rooting procedure IMO out there. I would just flash Amon recovery afterwards.
Also there is a nice program to help with other things called androidcommander.
Backing up your programs you can try MYBAckup
Like said previously no need to back up your rom but look into SPB Backup or Sprite Backup if you are still concerned
I think you have a pretty good handle on the phone stuff and the other answers you got were awesome...(gotta love the xda community!!)
My only gotchas you have to pay attention for are.
1. Having the correct drivers installed to use unrevoked. It is in the tutorials and in the instructions so you should be good
2. Getting the custom recovery (whther clockwork or amon ra) gives you great options to flash new stuff and backup existing installations, keeping backups is your friend!
3. I prefer Amon Ra over clockwork but clockwork is not a bad recovery, it's just preference (there are also certain posts out there that have clockwork being required to use for CM7, this may or may not be the case, I love me some Amon Ra)
4. at the bare minimum wipe cache and davlik in recovery when installing kernels, roms, and what not...I prefer a full wipe when switching between roms but if I'm just upgrading through betas or using the same devs roms I normally don't fully wipe.
5. Use Calkulins Format All.zip to do a full wipe, it just feels safer to use.
6. If something goes wrong don't get discouraged! restoring a nandroid or reflashing a rom will clear things up usually...
7. IMPORTANT - if you install new radios or PRIs or anything like this DO NOT PULL YOUR BATTERY IF IT TAKES A WHILE, just let it work...you will have problems...Using the sprint lovers all in one I feel is the safest route.
Forum advice
1. ignore the unfriendly people on the forums...they have nothing better to do than sit around and wait for people to ask dumb questions and get to use the same cliched links and jpegs to post to your question / thread...
2. Search and read and read and read before posting something that may have been covered.
Hope this helps, feel free to PM me, though I'm nowhere near the geniuses who are on these forums, so I'm closer to you than you think.
thanks for all the answers so far!
I am aware from all the reading and more reading not to mess with the wimax (RSA keys) as for flashing unless it is a last ditch effort to fix 4G. in my OP I just reference them to be sure on my understanding and how I am perceiving things to work. I believe the more I understand (basics, mechanics, etc.) the easier time I will have and the easier to trouble shoot.
oh and I have read and understand to backup the wimax/RSA keys also. that is made really clear in the threads I have read.
also I see everyone is saying to use unrevoked but from what I read here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204
...I was not really looking to go that way. it states in this thread for the 3rd option "Longer step by step version: - Complicated and more time consuming but easier to troubleshoot" which is the way I would like to go so I understand more and have a better way to trouble shoot. I wouldn't wanna one click and bork with nothing to understand if that makes sense.
now from what I have read SprintLovers ROM has a built in wireless tether I thought so I guess this ROM has it's own kernel then from the information everyone has provided me with so far. is that typical for a ROM to have it's own kernel built and flashed with the ROM the same way some ROM's have their own recovery tool? if so I can live with that.
btw - just in case this helps:
SUPERSONIC EVT2-3 SHIP s-ON
HBOOT-2.10.0001
TOUCH PANEL-ATMELC03_16ac
RADIO-2.15.00.11.19
OCT 15 2010, 12:07:00
Software information
Android version
2.2
Baseband version
2.15.00.11.19
Kernel version
2.6.32.17-gee557fd
[email protected] #15
Build number
3.70.651.1 CL294884 release-keys
Software number
3.70.651.1
Browser version
WebKit 3.1
PRI Version
1.90_003
PRL Version
60674
Hardware information
Hardware version
0003
- that is my current phone info (oh doh I was going to reference replies but I gotta wait 5 min first)
thegh0st said:
now from what I have read SprintLovers ROM has a built in wireless tether I thought so I guess this ROM has it's own kernel then from the information everyone has provided me with so far. is that typical for a ROM to have it's own kernel built and flashed with the ROM the same way some ROM's have their own recovery tool? if so I can live with that.
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A lot of roms come with a 3rd party kernel already built into it. The OP of the thread you got the rom from says (or should say) if and what kernel was baked into the rom. Some devs will even recommend custom kernels that have been tested with their rom.
Tuffgong4 said:
1. Having the correct drivers installed to use unrevoked. It is in the tutorials and in the instructions so you should be good
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see above reply
4. at the bare minimum wipe cache and davlik in recovery when installing kernels, roms, and what not...I prefer a full wipe when switching between roms but if I'm just upgrading through betas or using the same devs roms I normally don't fully wipe.
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this can be done with the stock setup right?
5. Use Calkulins Format All.zip to do a full wipe, it just feels safer to use.
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so I would use this .zip and flash it like you flash a ROM or recovery etc.?
7. IMPORTANT - if you install new radios or PRIs or anything like this DO NOT PULL YOUR BATTERY IF IT TAKES A WHILE, just let it work...you will have problems...Using the sprint lovers all in one I feel is the safest route.
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thanks - good to keep in mind if I ever have to
Forum advice
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I am usually pretty good at letting the water slide off and I tend to think I won't know things if I don't ask
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promise I have read a lot!
Good information from everyone...just my two cents:
You can use Wireless Tether with the stock kernel; however, from what I understand you will not be able to use the naitive hotspot.
The link you posted for rooting is my favorite method. It works on HW 0004 and HW 0003, along with HBOOT 2.10
rugedraw said:
A lot of roms come with a 3rd party kernel already built into it. The OP of the thread you got the rom from says (or should say) if and what kernel was baked into the rom. Some devs will even recommend custom kernels that have been tested with their rom.
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thanks! I might have just missed that or forgotten (I will check that thread again) - i've got a jumble of info/things in my mind atm but once I actually do this and the more I do, well that usually straightens things out
1. As for rooting method there are a few but the easiest (at least to me) is unrevoked. Install drivers set your phone to charge only and wait a few minutes, voila! it's rooted.
4. It can be done with a custom recovery
5. Yes you flash it like a regular .zip like a rom or kernel (it's not 100% necessary but I like having it on my sd card and I normally combine it with a wipe from just the custom recovery
Khilbron said:
Ok, so TL;DR you are curious about rooting.
The absolute fastest and simplest way to root would be to use Unrevoked, just google unrevoked and read their guide, there is even a video tutorial step by step. Unrevoked has been updated to all versions of the EVO. When you root with Unrevoked, it automatically changes your recovery from the Stock unusable recovery to Clockwork mod 2.6.
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again see my reply - trying not to use the one click method
When you flash a Rom, it comes already with a kernel, you can choose to change the Kernel but this is not required, Flashing wimax keys is not something you do, what you do is create a backup and this will backup your wimax keys. It is confirmed that Clockwork 2.6 makes a backup of your wimax keys.
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doh! you answered one of my follow up questions right here lol so they do come with a kernel - gotcha! - and from all the reading I have done I understand about the wimax/RSA keys - I believe I read a thread and someone who answered said Amon_RA backs them up to but I will make a manual backup also to be sure
You cannot make a backup of your unrooted stock rom, however as soon as you become rooted, you can make a backup of your stock rooted rom.
In regards to nandroid, you cannot do this without rooting, Once you root you will have a custom recovery, from inside your custom recovery you will select Nandroid(Clockwork), or Backup/Restore(Ra Recovery), and perform your backup. Both is these recoveries will make a backup of your Wimax keys, Ra Recovery is the only one that lets you select individual items to backup. Please also note, if you make a backup with clockwork it is only good with clockwork, and if you backup with RA it is only good with RA. So if you decide to change recoveries, you must redo your backups.
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thanks for all this and the info on what the backups are actually called per recovery - that is some great info - it seems I was correct in thinking I could not do a nandroid without rooting but I could do a nandroid or Amon_RA backup before flashing a ROM & technically a nandroid is the backup term for clockwork. glad to know this and what Amon_RA is called - I mighta been wondering where I messed up going with Amon_RA and not finding a nandroid option.
now you say I will have a custom recovery once I root? but I the reply before yours states I can root and leave everything stock to?
This has helped me too, but I do have a couple extra questions:
1) Root
2) Nand backup using recovery of choice.
3) Flash a ROM
OK, if after #3 I find my 4g is borked and have lost my RSA keys, would flashing the backup made in #2 restore the lost keys correctly?
And, is restoring a Nand backup just like flashing a ROM?
Thanks,
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See my comments in red.
I think I have a lot of things down and I even attempted to start my first root but after trying to use the adb shell I could not get a response from my phone. after reading and re-reading I determined that my EVO needs a factory reset before this will work (have not done this as of yet). I even confirmed this on another thread with someone else having a similar problem. (factory reset is NOT needed to root)
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according the long method (this is the method I would prefer to use) this is required to use z4root (temp root) and get the phone to respond and is supported here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=891674&highlight=z4root - please let me know if I read that wrong or misunderstood
as I said flashing a phone sounds similar but it sounds like there is approximately 4 different things to flash? is that right? a ROM, a recovery tool, you're wimax partition/key (might be saying this one technically wrong), and a kernel?
(technically, you don't need to flash any of these to have root. You can use Unrevoked to obtain root and keep the stock rom, kernel and recovery. Do NOT mess with flashing anything for your Wimax UNLESS you absolutely have to; meaning it doesn't work)
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I was just making sure I understood how things work here - thank you though - and yes I know not to flash wimax/RSA keys - also about unrevoked see my other replies - not looking to use the one click method if possible
is a recovery tool (which is Amon_RA or clockwork - is that right to?) completely necessary? is there a stock version? also the HBOOT is just the boot loader right? nothing to do with the recovery tool if I understand correctly.
(with a customer recovery, it will make things like flashing and creating NAND back-ups much easier. Download ROM Manager (I suggest the premium version), and once you have root with Unrevoked, you can flash either clockwork or Amon recovery using this app. Please remember if you create a NAND back up with Amon, you can only restore it with Amon recovery and vice versa)
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thanks for this information to - very helpful - now about the ROM manager and using it to get a custom recovery I would do this after I get rooted right?
another question arises from the above - is it not possible to just root my phone and then continue using my stock ROM? or is the stock sprint ROM also locked in some manner to some degree (like being odexed if I understand the meaning correctly)? where I would not be able to use/install apps that require a rooted device
(yes, you can just root the stock rom and keep that.....a lot of people prefer it this way. It will be odexed, but you can find a deodexed version of the stock rom on here if it means that much to you.)
as for the kernel I have read many threads on that to and would just like to continue using the stock kernel for now. (if you want wireless tether, a stock HTC kernel will not work. Again, depending on the kernel that comes on the rom you choose, you may or not be able to use this feature.)
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so if root my phone & I stay with stock (ROM & kernel) then I can install some root requiring apps but I wouldn't be able to get tethering? is that right? I don't care if it is sprint's hotspot or an after market app. I just would like one that works
and thank you very much again for all the information and answers!
topdawgn8 said:
Good information from everyone...just my two cents:
You can use Wireless Tether with the stock kernel; however, from what I understand you will not be able to use the naitive hotspot.
The link you posted for rooting is my favorite method. It works on HW 0004 and HW 0003, along with HBOOT 2.10
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thanks! I am definitely not worried about the native built in hotspot - just a wireless tether (and wired) that works - third party/after market - which ever
sounds like something to try at least before completely flashing the ROM
n00bhackin said:
This has helped me too, but I do have a couple extra questions:
1) Root
2) Nand backup using recovery of choice.
3) Flash a ROM
OK, if after #3 I find my 4g is borked and have lost my RSA keys, would flashing the backup made in #2 restore the lost keys correctly?
And, is restoring a Nand backup just like flashing a ROM?
Thanks,
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I am hardly the one to be answering for sure but from all the reading I have done I believe I did read at the very least a couple of times that you rename your backup file as PC36IMG.zip and flash it so I would think it is like just flashing a ROM but we would be flashing our backups.
hopefully someone with more knowledge will answer and confirm our thoughts
as for if that brings the wimax/RSA keys - good question
n00bhackin said:
This has helped me too, but I do have a couple extra questions:
1) Root
2) Nand backup using recovery of choice.
3) Flash a ROM
OK, if after #3 I find my 4g is borked and have lost my RSA keys, would flashing the backup made in #2 restore the lost keys correctly?
And, is restoring a Nand backup just like flashing a ROM?
Thanks,
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Only if you backed up your wimax.img. In Amon Ra's backup you can select Wimax as one of the items to back up during a nandroid. I'm not sure about Clockwork recovery but in Amon Ra's it is not on by default. I created it once and haven't done it again as I have it backed up to my pc.
Yup, would make sure I had everything backed up before I went flashing ROMs. Just want to make sure that I can recover everything using the nand backup (inc Keys) if something flashes wrong.
I live and travel in 4G areas, and don't want to lose that access.
So as I hear it I back up with Clock or RA w/ all options check, and if I needed to restore just rename to PC36IMG.zip and flash on that.
Thanks for the info,
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Yup, would make sure I had everything backed up before I went flashing ROMs. Just want to make sure that I can recover everything using the nand backup (inc Keys) if something flashes wrong.
I live and travel in 4G areas, and don't want to lose that access.
So as I hear it I back up with Clock or RA w/ all options check, and if I needed to restore just rename to PC36IMG.zip and flash on that.
Thanks for the info,
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Actually just do a nandroid restore in the recovery and everything comes back. I have never used the PC36IMG.zip method. I also don't suggest restoring the wimax.img unless you have 4g problems, there is no reason otherwise...I suggest doing the backup and then saving the img in a safe place...
You can do a restore without certain .imgs in it.
Sweet...thanks so much, that just upped my confidence level to root. Needed to know I could and how to restore back to a starting point. Looks like I got a project now for this weekend...Root here I come....
Now I just gotta choose from all the great ROMs out there. Decisions decisions decisions.
I flashed 6.1.1 of ARHD, enjoying it now . Is it that after you flash it, it will override CWM recovery and give you back the old white bootloader, or am I doing something wrong. I have Eng S-OFF and Radio S-OFF, so I flashed both the radio and the rom. Thanks in advance.
I don't thing you should get either back. Im not sure on this one.
Or maybe I should phase it in this way. Should I redownload Rom Manager to get back CWM Recovery after I flash ARHD and its recommended Radio?
The superwipe script for ARHD flashes 4Ext recovery. Theres not too much difference between Clockwork Mod Recovery and 4Ext as far as i can see. But im not looking too hard lol. If you want Clockwork Mod back you will have to install Rom Manager again and reflash the recovery. But do you really need clockwork mod and is it really worth the effort?
Edit:Oh youre not doing anything wrong. Just use vol + and - to navigate to recovery option in bootloader and it will take you to 4Ext recovery
the boot loader remains. its from there you have to select recovery ,and if you have flashed arhd then you now have 4ext as you recovery and there is no need for you to get clockwork mod back as 4ext does the same job and kinda works the same way too in terms of navigating through the options
Thanks guys for the help. I found it already.. Guess it was called clockworkmod RECOVERY for a reason.. So if I want to flash a battery (framework) mod, and they say use CWM, I just need to use 4xt instead?
Edit: if I flashed the radio before the rom, will it be wiped due to the full wipe script.
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Yes use text instead it does the samething . I'm not sure if Flashing New radio will remove battery framework mod
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Running ARHD
lzhikai1994 said:
Thanks guys for the help. I found it already.. Guess it was called clockworkmod RECOVERY for a reason.. So if I want to flash a battery (framework) mod, and they say use CWM, I just need to use 4xt instead?
Edit: if I flashed the radio before the rom, will it be wiped due to the full wipe script.
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No the radio will not be affected. However make sure the Rom contains the matching ril. Otherwise you will have to flash the correct ril.
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radixon said:
No the radio will not be affected. However make sure the Rom contains the matching ril. Otherwise you will have to flash the correct ril.
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Thanks for all your help, guys. This is a great forum!
I guess I will stick to my current theme.. I'm scared that I might brick my device.
By my reckoning, your more likely to brick your DHD during the rooting process than flashing a new Rom. I'm changing my Rom daily at the moment trying to find my favorite and I've had no trouble at all
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Maybe tonight I should try flashing a theme. Changing roms is irritating in a way that I have to backup and restore my contacts again, and I haven't got the hang of using TB.
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Someone feel free to chime in, but I dont think TB backs up your contacts. If it does, it hasnt been for me. Anyways, just get a contacts backup app off the market. SMS&Contacts Backup works well for me. I dont use the SMS part of it though. although there are plenty of others available.
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The superwipe script for ARHD flashes 4Ext recovery. Theres not too much difference between Clockwork Mod Recovery and 4Ext as far as i can see. But im not looking too hard lol. If you want Clockwork Mod back you will have to install Rom Manager again and reflash the recovery. But do you really need clockwork mod and is it really worth the effort?
Edit:Oh youre not doing anything wrong. Just use vol + and - to navigate to recovery option in bootloader and it will take you to 4Ext recovery
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hi, i want to flash ARHD6.1.1 too, now using ARHD3.3 with cwm 3.0.0.6.
mike writes, you need at least cwm 3.0.2.x.
how is it then? can i flash 6.1.1. with my current cwm and i'll get a new one??
ridethisbike said:
Someone feel free to chime in, but I dont think TB backs up your contacts. If it does, it hasnt been for me. Anyways, just get a contacts backup app off the market. SMS&Contacts Backup works well for me. I dont use the SMS part of it though. although there are plenty of others available.
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I just realised that you could use the Backup options in People App, if you just want to keep the contacts.
Just flashed a none compatible lockring yesterday, luckily I had my backup of the rom done haha...
stoffan said:
hi, i want to flash ARHD6.1.1 too, now using ARHD3.3 with cwm 3.0.0.6.
mike writes, you need at least cwm 3.0.2.x.
how is it then? can i flash 6.1.1. with my current cwm and i'll get a new one??
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You should probably create a new thread here, as this does not attract answers for your question as this is about CWM Good luck though, this 6.1.1 I flashed from stock, so I cannot help you .
EDIT: Check this page out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1293468
lzhikai1994 said:
I just realised that you could use the Backup options in People App, if you just want to keep the contacts.
Just flashed a none compatible lockring yesterday, luckily I had my backup of the rom done haha...
EDIT: Check this page out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1293468
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doh!! :faceslap figures.... lol every phone in the world with an SD cards lets you back up your contacts.... why in the hell did i think i needed a 3rd party app???? sometimes i think i'm too smart () for my own damn good haha
I did the same thing the other day, sort of.... I tried to mod the lockscreen icons to get rid of them entirely (funny cuz now i actually use them), rebooted the phone and the whole ring/icon set were gone... i effectively locked myself out of the phone... thank god i kept a back up of the APK i was messing with and figured out adb, cuz i DIDNT have a back up of the rom...
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doh!! :faceslap figures.... lol every phone in the world with an SD cards lets you back up your contacts.... why in the hell did i think i needed a 3rd party app???? sometimes i think i'm too smart () for my own damn good haha
I did the same thing the other day, sort of.... I tried to mod the lockscreen icons to get rid of them entirely (funny cuz now i actually use them), rebooted the phone and the whole ring/icon set were gone... i effectively locked myself out of the phone... thank god i kept a back up of the APK i was messing with and figured out adb, cuz i DIDNT have a back up of the rom...
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How do you restore that APK? I restored my backup when I had the same problem as you, just to realise that that backup was the one I made, when I first flashed the ROM. Then I was like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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How do you restore that APK? I restored my backup when I had the same problem as you, just to realise that that backup was the one I made, when I first flashed the ROM. Then I was like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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assuming you made a backup of the apk itself, its pretty easy.
what i did was boot the phone up normally (I sincerely hope you have USB Debugging enabled before you altered that file...), opened a command prompt then i did the following:
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adb devices (make sure my phone is being recognized by adb, if it is, it'll show
"List of devices attached" and then show the s/n of your phone, if not,
it'll show "List of devices attached" and then be blank)
cd c:\droid (this is where i had the backup of Idlescreen_base.apk so i dont
have to type the full directory when i push)
adb remount /system (mounts /system so i can mess around in there)
adb push Idlescreen_base.apk /system/app
adb reboot
when i did it, i didnt know about the reboot command, so i did a battery pull. you asking me how i did it made me dig around a little bit because i couldnt remember exactly how i did it, i could've SWORN i did it from either hboot or fastboot, but when i tried just now to send a txt file to /system i couldnt get the phone to even be recognized by adb. I'm glad i verified everything i did instead of just start rattling it all off, because it would've been wrong as hell lol. hope this helps you out, any questions, just ask
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assuming you made a backup of the apk itself, its pretty easy.
what i did was boot the phone up normally (I sincerely hope you have USB Debugging enabled before you altered that file...), opened a command prompt then i did the following:
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adb devices (make sure my phone is being recognized by adb, if it is, it'll show
"List of devices attached" and then show the s/n of your phone, if not,
it'll show "List of devices attached" and then be blank)
cd c:\droid (this is where i had the backup of Idlescreen_base.apk so i dont
have to type the full directory when i push)
adb remount /system (mounts /system so i can mess around in there)
adb push Idlescreen_base.apk /system/app
adb reboot
when i did it, i didnt know about the reboot command, so i did a battery pull. you asking me how i did it made me dig around a little bit because i couldnt remember exactly how i did it, i could've SWORN i did it from either hboot or fastboot, but when i tried just now to send a txt file to /system i couldnt get the phone to even be recognized by adb. I'm glad i verified everything i did instead of just start rattling it all off, because it would've been wrong as hell lol. hope this helps you out, any questions, just ask
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OMG, you deserve many thanks for that man! The problem, is, how do I know which .apk I have to backup. Do I open the Flashable zip to check everything inside, then backup all the apks in my phone. And which apps to you use to backup? You used a file manager to navigate in your phone then copy the files to the memory card then to your PC?
lzhikai1994 said:
OMG, you deserve many thanks for that man! The problem, is, how do I know which .apk I have to backup. Do I open the Flashable zip to check everything inside, then backup all the apks in my phone. And which apps to you use to backup? You used a file manager to navigate in your phone then copy the files to the memory card then to your PC?
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thats exactly what I did.
I was trying to remove the icons from the lock screen, and that only required me to mess with one file, Idlescreen_base.apk i'm not sure what file the lock ring is in, maybe ask one of the themers?
EDIT: downloaded a random lockring zip, looks like the only apk's it flashes are Idlescreen_base.apk and fusion.apk (thats the 2.3.3 lockrings), the 2.3.4 lockrings only flash fusion.apk which are both located in /system/app
alternatively, why dont you just download a compatible lockring and flash it? that SHOULD fix your problem as well. What version of GB are you running? also, lets take this to PM, we're WAY off topic right now
hello, i just got my first android phone so I'm new to this sort of stuff, though I love being able to unlock hidden potential of different devices, so naturally I discovered the ability to root smart phones and all that good stuff.
The model I have is the Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660M. It's running 2.3.4. Gingerbread version.
I've been reading a lot of guides and for the most part rooting and adding additional utilities like flash, etc. seems pretty simple. However, I have not yet been able to find out how to create a back of up of my stock firmware when I bought the phone in case I end up bricking it, or decide I want to return to stock.
I've read many guides that claim to show how to create back ups and recovery points, but I'm still having trouble understanding it.
To be more specific, I would like to create as opposed to download, a back up of the phone in it's current state which is, as I said earlier, stock. I did a factory reset since I had some stuff installed while I was fiddling with it for the first time.
thx
You have to root it before you can back up stock rom so, firstly you root it (you can find guides here on xda)
Then install clockworkmod recovery: warning: DON'T EVER USE ROM MANAGER TO INSTALL CLOCKWORKMOD ON YOUR GIO, IT WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE!! use one of the recoveries found in xda, you will also find guides to install them there.
Then third; backup in clockworkmod using "backup and restore"
Sent from my GT-S5660
iok1 said:
You have to root it before you can back up stock rom so, firstly you root it (you can find guides here on xda)
Then install clockworkmod recovery: warning: DON'T EVER USE ROM MANAGER TO INSTALL CLOCKWORKMOD ON YOUR GIO, IT WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE!! use one of the recoveries found in xda, you will also find guides to install them there.
Then third; backup in clockworkmod using "backup and restore"
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so first of all, what I'm looking for is called a ROM right?
what I don't get though is how come I need to modify the device before creating the backup. Isn't the phone modified at that point? Or is the stock configuration being stored somewhere on the phone that I can't see without clockwork?
You cannot create a backup without the recovery mod CWM Clockwork Recovery Mod. But to install this you need your device rooted (modified so you can modify and view system files)
gfyrdr said:
so first of all, what I'm looking for is called a ROM right?
what I don't get though is how come I need to modify the device before creating the backup. Isn't the phone modified at that point? Or is the stock configuration being stored somewhere on the phone that I can't see without clockwork?
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1 - you don't need to search for a rom to backup your stock rom
2 - you need to root your phone in order to be able to backup your rom
3 - you need to install a more advanced recovery (program "similar" to pc BIOS) in order to do a nandroid backup
4 - after you flash that more advanced recovery (aka CWM -> ClockWorkMod), you backup your rom in "backup and restore" menu, backup. It will then store your rom in a folder.
5 - you should strongly consider after that, to install a custom rom made by many of the devs here on XDA in order to have a better experience with your phone...
0M3G4_ said:
1 - you don't need to search for a rom to backup your stock rom
2 - you need to root your phone in order to be able to backup your rom
3 - you need to install a more advanced recovery (program "similar" to pc BIOS) in order to do a nandroid backup
4 - after you flash that more advanced recovery (aka CWM -> ClockWorkMod), you backup your rom in "backup and restore" menu, backup. It will then store your rom in a folder.
5 - you should strongly consider after that, to install a custom rom made by many of the devs here on XDA in order to have a better experience with your phone...
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+1 That was what I wanted to say
I've already uploaded a stock ROM backup last fall of the same Gingerbread ROM you're running, along with instructions on how to make one yourself or flash mine.
The best advice I can give you is: research, research, and more research.
Good luck,
Darkshado
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA
What software do you recommend to clockworkmod Gio with?
s!mon said:
What software do you recommend to clockworkmod Gio with?
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I use px-cwm-v2.zip recovery.
You flash it using stock recovery.
thx for the replies. I will give it a try.
Darkshadow, whats the thread's name where you posted the ROM and instructions? I'd like to check that out too.
Also, whats a good rom to consider upgrading to? Something that has the ability to play flash videos.
EDIT:
If I understand correctly, roms are basically whole operating systems that have been customized by the developer. So a rom can be already rooted and have clockwork as well as other custom stuff, and I just need to flash it. The alternative to this is to do everything manualy... root the current OS, add clockwork and whatever else. Correct?
Also, I'm not sure yet if a rooted phone has any extra options on it's own, or if it's only a set up that's sole purpose is to allow other applications to be installed who then will give the user better control over his device.
I've run into a little problem.
I'm following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16963172&postcount=1
I've got Odin and the tar downloaded, but when I go into download mode with my phone and connect it to the PC, it says that the device driver was not successfuly installed, and I get no confirmation in Odin that a connection has been made between the phone and the program.
What am I missing?
Thx.
EDIT:
Nevermind, I needed to install Kies. Don't even need to run it. Apparently it has the driver that's needed.
Okay, I've rooted my phone successfully. Now the next step is to install Clockwork and create a back up.
Now that I understand a little bit the way Odin and flashing ROM works, I think it would be better to just download a stock ROM and in case something goes wrong, I can just flash it the way I flashed the rooted one.
(I think I saw a completely stock ROM somewhere for my model but I don't remember where. A link would be appreciated if it exists.)
Correct me if I'm wrong pls.
Also, if I do that, then is there any reason to install Clockwork since I've read that many ppl have issues with installing it and it's riskier than rooting or installing other software.
Right now I think what I'm most interested in is installing Adobe Flash Player 11 or something of the sort that can play flash videos and streams.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19623732&postcount=1
taken from the sticky
i'm also thinking of installing cwm
looking at the sticky, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20397988&postcount=8
how outdated is this cwm?
I'm using Opera as my browser so from what I've learned, flash doesn't work with it period. Is skyfire a good alternative?
Also, like I said, I don't think I need the clockwork if I can get a clean stock ROM that I can just flash if something goes wrong. As I don't intend to download many apps or add many phone numbers (memorized instead), a backup isn't really needed.
nvmd, i just went ahead and installed the cwm in that link, there's a 5.0.2.7 though if that is even the newest one
now, i cant seem to backup my phone
it says it cannot mount /system
try dolphin browser
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nvmd, i just went ahead and installed the cwm in that link, there's a 5.0.2.7 though if that is even the newest one
now, i cant seem to backup my phone
it says it cannot mount /system
try dolphin browser
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Did you pick the ext4 + rfs version?
Sent from my GT-S5660
Clockwork is not riskier than other things you do. Just follow steps and you see no problems.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19623732&postcount=1
i'm also thinking of installing cwm
looking at the sticky, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20397988&postcount=8
how outdated is this cwm?
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its an older version, its 5.0.2.7, theres also 5.0.2.8 but these give some problems after installing/wiping, so some people still use the older version.
Hello guys,
I'm new here. I have the same problem as anonxlg. It says can't mount system. I also used the version from the big thread for new users. Can anyone enlighten me on what to do? I've been searching the forum and google, but can't make it work. I feel like a compleet noob now, and I don't feel special about it.
RJ88
Edit: I kept searching, and finally found a working 5.0.2.7 version. First I had another 5.0.2.7 version, but when I tried to install it didn't work. I finally found "signed_cwm-5.0.2.7-flashablezip-ext4+rfs.zip (Flash from Recovery)" on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421650 (through google actually. I have to get used to this site), and I'm making my backup now.
thanks RJA88, backup worked
edit/update
i used the cwm linked and backup worked, i tried installing cm9 beta8 (galaxyics), and it would get stuck after samsung bootscreen (it flashes a white pick or soemthing before full back screen)
i tried restoring backup i made, and it didnt work, some mount error again
i reverted back to 5.0.2.6 and did the restore backup again, and this time it goes up the the galaxy gio gt5660m screen and just stop..
note that i do not know what the rfs/ext4 is for for the gio if that is what is causing problems