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Can't boot into ROM or recovery

I have a rooted Desire on Orange UK and running LeeDroid. I have my main SD card and a spare (the spare is used for flashing any roms etc.). I've made both goldcards.
Recently I've had problems with my phone rebooting randomly and today it did the same (been meaning to get in touch with HTC for a motherboard replacement which I've read fixes it). Sometimes when this happens it gets stuck on the white HTC logo and the solution is to pull the battery and then wait a bit and turn on and then it's fine. However today I did just that and now I can't boot into the OS or recovery modes.
I had a generic RUU that I used to downgrade my bootloader previously so I thought running that to flash back to a generic rom would at least get me back to a starting position. However I'm getting the CID error running that, using both goldcards. This would suggest to me the goldcards aren't properly working now!
Obviously not being able to get into anything other than bootloader/fastboot I cannot connect via adb and I also can't attempt to remake a goldcard. The ideal solution would be to get it into recovery somehow just so I can re-flash a rom.
If my phone is buggered then will Orange/HTC be able to tell if it's rooted (I'm guessing they will have a way), or will they need to flash an Orange rom and thus remove the root when that happens? If I have no choice, who shall I contact Orange or HTC? If repair under warranty is unlikely I have insurance so luckily I am covered.
Any advice is welcome. Going to pop out for a bit to calm down my annoyance but will be online again later.
Simon.

Bump.
Will be returning via Phones4U today, unless anyone can come up with a last minute suggestion.

What errors do you get if you connect via USB and:
adb reboot recovery
...?
Did you run an undervolted/overvolted/overclocked ROM? If it wasn't stable, that will mess your phone up. Qualcomm can easily trace that, Orange can't, unless they refer back to them.
And yes, they will be able to tell if a device is still rooted. Not if you undo it with your stock RUU flash though.
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I get the CID error if I try to run an RUU.
I can't get into recovery and if I try to connect the phone using unrevoked/desire downgrade/adb through the command line it either says device not connected or please connect the device.
It wasn't under or over-volted.

Si Pie said:
I have a rooted Desire on Orange UK and running LeeDroid. I have my main SD card and a spare (the spare is used for flashing any roms etc.). I've made both goldcards.
Recently I've had problems with my phone rebooting randomly and today it did the same (been meaning to get in touch with HTC for a motherboard replacement which I've read fixes it). Sometimes when this happens it gets stuck on the white HTC logo and the solution is to pull the battery and then wait a bit and turn on and then it's fine. However today I did just that and now I can't boot into the OS or recovery modes.
I had a generic RUU that I used to downgrade my bootloader previously so I thought running that to flash back to a generic rom would at least get me back to a starting position. However I'm getting the CID error running that, using both goldcards. This would suggest to me the goldcards aren't properly working now!
Obviously not being able to get into anything other than bootloader/fastboot I cannot connect via adb and I also can't attempt to remake a goldcard. The ideal solution would be to get it into recovery somehow just so I can re-flash a rom.
If my phone is buggered then will Orange/HTC be able to tell if it's rooted (I'm guessing they will have a way), or will they need to flash an Orange rom and thus remove the root when that happens? If I have no choice, who shall I contact Orange or HTC? If repair under warranty is unlikely I have insurance so luckily I am covered.
Any advice is welcome. Going to pop out for a bit to calm down my annoyance but will be online again later.
Simon.
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the creating golden card is now obsoleted method. It better, that you use unrevoked method to make new HDBOOT from www.unrevoked.com with following instructions. You can root easy and do everything you need only on rooted phone. I will reccomend also and make S-Off for full access in your phone. Everything in one place - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
Enjoy!

Thanks both.
I can't use unrevoked it says please connect the device.

Si Pie said:
Thanks both.
I can't use unrevoked it says please connect the device.
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it means, the drivers are not installed. you can take it from
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install
and you must read faq http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3

I've used unrevoked before without issue. Tried re-installing the drivers and it didn't work.
Is it because I can only get into fastboot/bootloader?

Si Pie said:
I've used unrevoked before without issue. Tried re-installing the drivers and it didn't work.
Is it because I can only get into fastboot/bootloader?
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Nope. Unrevoked will work if your PC can see the phone. So you have a connection error caused either by a incomplete/faulty setup on the PC, or with your USB attachment (cable/connectors/ports).
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Thanks for everyone's help. I don't know why Unrevoked could not see the phone then. Had ensured the drivers were installed correctly in device manager etc.
I also have no idea why I would be getting CID failure when this has never caused me a problem previously. My suspicion is a hardware fault so I've sent to HTC for repair.

Got my phone back from HTC today, motherboard replaced

Debranding guidance needed from the very expert Guru

Hi Gurus,
Since the last two weeks , I have tried almost all the options to debrand the Htc Desire Orange UK version, but not success, Below was my cell stock information when I purchased it.
Htc Desire Black Edition (PVT1) not brown one
Froyo 2.2
Hboot = 0.93.0001
Radio = 5.10
CID=ORANG001
I wanted to debrand it to generic from the Orange then I rooted it with UnRevoked and S-Off through AlphaRev and executed the file "RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.exe" from shipped Roms.
After that I got the Radio V2 Fail, When I restarted the cell, there was no display, even the charging light was off.
I contacted a person that has RiffBox, he flashed it and changed the CID from ORANG001 to HTC__001.
My cell new configuration is as below :
Hboot=0.930001
Radio=4.06
CID=HTC__001
Right now I have only fastboot and hboot access with no ROM in cell phone .
After that I tried almost all the Roms from the shipped-roms's bravo secton, they gives 2 types of error upon executing :
1. partition update failed (error on Radio v2 pu fail)
2. signature verification failed.
I want to debrand my cell to generic one , so that I can get rid of Orange stuff.
I am stuck at that point, needed the expert guidance to pass through this situation.
Thanks

No Guru answered till yet !!!

Given that you are s-off and rooted why would you not just install one of the stock rooted ROMs from the second post in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
I personally would not have changed the CID, can you install your stock RUU anymore?

Thanks 'welshbloke70' for reply.
Well, After having flashed with RiffBox my cell is no longer rooted or s-off.
Currently I have just fastboot and only hboot menu access. RECOVERY is not operational now.
When I turned on the cell, it directly comes to fastboot menu due to no
ROM in cell after flashing. So in this case I can only install from RUU or PB99IMG.zip, the xda link you gave have all the the ROMS but for rooted cell phones.
As now I have changed CID (HTC__001) which is the generic one, so I dont get any CID error upon installing generic RUU.
Any other suggestion would be appreciated.
Thanks,
welshbloke70 said:
Given that you are s-off and rooted why would you not just install one of the stock rooted ROMs from the second post in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
I personally would not have changed the CID, can you install your stock RUU anymore?
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alidsd said:
No Guru answered till yet !!!
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I guess the forum is out of gurus so you're stuck with us lot. Try this thread to solve your problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796975

Hi Paul,
I think the Gurus/expert are there are too much busy thats why they can not respond.
Well I saw your given link. It requires clockworkmod or Armon recovery, currently I am not rooted, so can not use the roms there.
Thanks,
paul.c said:
I guess the forum is out of gurus so you're stuck with us lot. Try this thread to solve your problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796975
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Do you have a Gold Card??? Cause your problem sounds pretty bad. Since you aren't rooted and you don't have a recovery, it is pretty obvious that you can't install a custom ROM.
I guess you tried also the latest version of RUU which is 2.29.405.5 if you are from EUROPE.
From what I've read you can flash an branded RUU or another RUU on a branded phone only if you have a Gold Card. Now I don't know if this applies to you since you are no longer branded, but you can give it a shot if you haven't tried yet.
I think there is a tutorial on how to make a Gold Card even if you can't access the phone or see the screen. I'll look for it and post it here.
Hope this helps you.

UsManyDead said:
Do you have a Gold Card??? Cause your problem sounds pretty bad. Since you aren't rooted and you don't have a recovery, it is pretty obvious that you can't install a custom ROM.
I guess you tried also the latest version of RUU which is 2.29.405.5 if you are from EUROPE.
From what I've read you can flash an branded RUU or another RUU on a branded phone only if you have a Gold Card. Now I don't know if this applies to you since you are no longer branded, but you can give it a shot if you haven't tried yet.
I think there is a tutorial on how to make a Gold Card even if you can't access the phone or see the screen. I'll look for it and post it here.
Hope this helps you.
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Thanks 'UsManyDead' for taking interest in my case. The answers are as below :
1. Yes, I have gold card, for now its useless. Because as I know we need the gold card only if we are going to install a rom that is different from the current cell CID.
In my case I have already changed my CID from ORANG001 to HTC__001 and any generic RUU supports HTC__001 so there is no need of gold card in my case.
2. Any custom rom can not be installed due to fact that cell is no more rooted.
Only PB***.zip or Ruu can solve the problem. I have tried almost all the roms and ruu from shipped-roms. but they give 2 types of errors as I mentioned in my first post. I have also tried 2.29.405.5 many times but no success.
I know the options are becoming very few , but I hope that I will pass through this failure from you and xda community users.
Any other advice will be welcomed.
Thanks

Hello once again. I just read a little more about your problem, which is very rare but found some good threads you should read and try.
REMEMBER TO READ THEM IN FULL ( FROM FIRST PAGE TILL THE LAST ONE ) and maybe post your problem there, might be easier to get help.
First thread: ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880268 ( even if it is for bricked SLCD, something in there might actually help, for example how to get the PB99IMG.zip from a RUU file)
Second thread (a continuation of the first): ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831734
Third thread (where I actually found your exact problem): ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000385 . Someone explains some kind of "voodoo" to be done to repair the error you get, and there are positive results, and I think you can use the first 2 thread to get the PB99IMG.zip.
Give it a try and remember to read them in full to understand. Hope this helps. Good luck.
Image of what you get : ht tp://www.imageupload.org/?d=4D9499D01

Can you still get in to fastboot?
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

Hi mate don't know if this can help you....i got usb bricked with my rooted and s-off desire. I flashed a an RUU thinking it would solve my issue but of course it just left me with a USB Brick unrooted! You can't write to that and no access with Adb. I got great help from Unrevoked page which fixed me by getting me back to root.
I summarised the process here:
="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14459375&postcount=520"Here
Hope you might have success with your issue. If this does not help directly you might follow the link to the help page on UnRevoked.....
Sent with Desire.

Thank all of you for taking interest in my problem.
At the end I have got success BUT with failure. Here is my story.
1. Erased and Flashed with RiffBox with CID=11111111 (super id)
2. Kept cell phone in refrigerator for only 5 minutes.
3. Installed the new ROM from PB99IMG.zip (PB99IMG_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.zip ) without any error.
4. Kept cell phone again in refrigerator for only 5 minutes.
5. Started the cell phone for the first time and executed setup and went till the Home screen fine.
6. Tried some games and flash intensive web sites, and ohhh the phone rebooted.
It rebooted again and again. Untill I pulled out the battery and put it again after 30 minutes, but was unable to reach home screen.
Again kept the cell phone in refrigerator and phone works for a short time before it starts reboot loop.
So the main problem is rebooting now.
I spent nearly 16 hours on net , reading forums/posts for solution but at the end found that there is no solution except the motherboard replacement.
I am in PK and here is no HTC service center. I bought it second hand so dont have any warranty card/info with me.
So its just like a piece of scrape for me.
Anyways again thank you all for the great help. May be this refrigerator solution could work for anyone.
Thanks,
Ali

Have you tried changing cid back to orange and flashing correct ruu?
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No, I didn't try to change the CID to orange. And there is no orange related PB** or RUU on shipped roms.
I dont think Orange have done some customization in kernel or any other part.
I have seen threads running the generic version on orange brand phone. So it shouldn't be a issue, however bootloop problem is not related to either generic or orange brand rom , its related to motherboard.
Have you seen any post in which generic rom is initiating bootloop while the orange rom solved it ?
Thanks,
Ali

No Ali, I haven't. Seeing that you are in the dead end, I think that its worth trying everything from scratch. Don't know much about cid change, but could it be that cid is in a few places and now that you've changed it it sort of fights itself ? Will have a look into all this a bit later, I'm far from guru, but with a bit of luck should be able to find some info.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

Hi tinky1,
Well, I have complete nandroid backup (boot, data, recovery and system images). I did it when I was rooted by unrevoked (clockworkmod).
Currently I have installed stock rom '2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_ release_159811', so how can I restore my earlier backup (i will again change the CID to orange, no issue) ?
Please remember i can not root now due to boot loop problem.
Any suggestion ?
Ali

So what do you actually have working? Bootloader, fastboot, recovery? Does phone bootloop when (if you can) you go into one of these?

Currently I have working fastboot and hboot. Recovery is not working , it stuck on HTC green logo.
Normal phone startup is also not functional, it reboots itself before it reaches 'Quietly Brilliant' logo.

I have managed to install Cyanogenmod 7 but the bootloop problem still exist. Analyzing the problem.
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Help - Desire stuck on boot

Has anyone ever seen this? Got this phone cheap and would like to fix it.
Can't get into bootloader, just goes to this screen and keeps rebooting ever so often.
Cheers for any help

Ok an update, it seems the volume- button is broken but back key + power worked and I got into the boot menu. Here's a pic.
Where should I go from here?
Is there a way of knowing if the phone is branded and what brand or unlocked so I can try flashing a WWE RUU?

Ok so the phone is branded T Mobile since a Tmob RUU worked just fine but with WWE ROMs I get a CID mismatch.
Made a goldcard with 2 sd cards but it doesn't work since I get a CID error mismatch again.
I should mention that after a T Mobile RUU flash that phone was still getting stuck on that same screen in post 1.
I've tried several things but still no luck with getting anywhere.
Thoughts?
EDIT: Made a successful goldcard using a different method and was able to flash the latest WWE RUU but the phone is still stuck on boot, the difference is that now it's the white screen with HTC in the middle.
So the phone doesn't even get into boot.
Can somebody help me with this??

Ruu really should Fix it. If it doesn't, first port of call should be warranty. Does ruu give no error?
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

As I've mentioned, I got this phone for cheap so no warranty.
Nope, no errors with goldcard. Also I should mention I can't get into recovery, it just goes back into boot loop.
I suspect some partition somewhere must be corrupted.
If the phone had S-OFF it would make things so much easier.

Ok so an update, for anyone who runs into this problem.
After trying basically everything (even trying to unlock bootloader with a HTC Unlocker device with no success, probably due to action key not working) I was going to go and try to unlock the official way.
To unlock the official way I had to update the ROM so I just used the latest update which is 2.3.3 and after flashing I was finally able to boot!! So it seems like the problem was not hardware related at all.
Next I used Revolutionary to S-OFF, flashed CWM Touch and used root.zip for root access. Now I'm happy I got it all going and it's time for a sandwich, the ice cream variant
Peace!

RUU problems - staying up all night - help appreciated :)

I tried to unroot my desire, its being collected tomorrow for warranty repairs. I seem to be stuck with the 4 exclamation marks and the htc logo
when I try and flash the vodafone RUU which I thought my phone was, I get CustomerID error.
I tried a couple of other Europe and WWE roms and I get 140 bootloader error - I dont think Ill be able to make a gold card from here (can I)
any suggestions late night people?

L1ndon said:
I tried to unroot my desire, its being collected tomorrow for warranty repairs. I seem to be stuck with the 4 exclamation marks and the htc logo
when I try and flash the vodafone RUU which I thought my phone was, I get CustomerID error.
I tried a couple of other Europe and WWE roms and I get 140 bootloader error - I dont think Ill be able to make a gold card from here (can I)
any suggestions late night people?
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bortak's useful troubleshooting guide

Thanks for the link - its a great guide, I could have done with it in the wee hours last night.
So I fixed it this morning, with only 40 mins to spare until collection time for warranty repair.
Here's what happened in case its of use to anyone else, same kind of problems
I didnt know you had to downgrade your alpharev s-off before returning to stock , I was running cm7 r2 version. (I still cant find the definitive answer on this, but I think you do - I only vaguley know what it does, enough to get in trouble)...
When I tried to run the RUU uk vodafone, without downgrading s-off, I got an error saying the RUU file was corrupt or it couldnt write the file. (Maybe because the Ram was distributed differently not enough space)...anyway it didnt work and I got stuck at the screen with four exclamation marks (4 !) in the corner, though when I unplugged it went to the white bootloader screen, which said bootloader version 0.00.000
I read somewhere to change s-off and managed to do that via fastboot commander, but then when I tried the RUU it stopped because Customer ID was wrong.
I tried several different RUU's just in case, but most of them gave an Incorrect bootloader error, and the vodafone ones gave the CID error.
I couldnt make a goldcard easily because I no longer had a phone, but by morning I found someone with an android phone... and managed to make a goldcard (which certainly wasnt without its difficulties, but was worth it). Just in case you find yourself in the same position, to make a goldcard the easy way, you need a phone, BUT ANY ANDROID will do, it dosent have to be your own, the numbers needed are from the sd card not the phone.
I then tried the early vodafone RUU again, same bootloader error, presumably something to do with how early a version it was, then tried a later version, and it worked.
I've never been so happy to see an electronic device booting up... 40 mins before the collection man was due (he still hasnt come though lol - 4 hours later)
I wrote this just to close the thread, and in case anyone had similar difficulties.

[Q] Attempting to flash shipped ROM onto a Desire Z (Vodafone NL)

I need an Obi-wan here. I'm a noob -- though I've gotten a solid four day education
hacking at this problem.
My wife's Android Desire Z - Stock ROM, S-ON, got stuck looping with a failed
android.process.acore message and after trying a cache clear that didn't help
I set out to factory reset it. Figured the nuclear option would be dead simple. Nope.
Factory Reset from the Hboot menu simply froze the phone
at the HTC menu for an hour. Not good.
From there dozens of resets and reboots and fastboots would sometimes successfully boot
to my wife's setup (so nothing was reset at all), only to get stuck in the acore loop again.
I was once quick enough to put it into
airplane mode and that stopped the error message loops. YAY! I could try a reset
via software! But when I attempted
Settings > SD & phone storage > Factory data reset it rebooted to HTC screen, Vodafone
screen, HTC screen, vodafone screen. ANOTHER loop.
OK, next try was to flash the ROM with an original shipped version.
Couple forums in Dutch said the shipped ROM for the Vodafone Desire z in NL was Bravo/Froyo World Wide English
so I located this file:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.2_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_151783_
signed.exe
and attempted reset by running that on a pc.
But the USB connection failed after the unit reset: Error 171, Error 170.
Tried installing HTC Sync AND the Universal boot drivers
and the Android Booloader Driver, as per the helpful advice from Bob Denny at Phandroid. (As a noob, I can't post links here, sorry)
And yep, I disabled anti-virus, had a fully charged phone (I'm hoping you get
the picture here -- I've done my due dilligence and googling before asking for help.) but
nada. RUU rebooted the phone, waited for the bootoader, and either the phone never pings the USB
port to say it's there or the PC doesn't see it.
FINE. I can put a PC10IMG.ZIP on the SD card and dispense with the frustration of messing with windows, right? Well, no.
I extracted ROM.ZIP from the RUU renamed it PC10IMG.ZIP and slapped it in the root
directory of the SD card. I booted to Hboot with the volume down and power buttons, chose
Fastboot and watched the the Zip load (blue verticle progress bar upper right of screen),
check it (brown progress bar upper right), then NOTHING -- back to the Hboot menu.
No error message, and no invitation to
update. Reboot takes me back to screen loop. Normal power-on does the same.
Further searches make me question if this is the right shipped ROM.
The RUU reports that I'm running version 2.42.161.22
(of what? Vision Gingerbread?) and the Bravo/Froyo WWE Rom reported itself to be version 1.59 something.
As this is an S-ON phone, I know I can't roll back to earlier ROMS, and can only install
the exact version as shipped.
So the questions I THINK I need answered:
1. Does anyone know for certain, or know where I can find out, which ROM
shipped with the Vodafone NL Desire-Z in 2010? I can get Kernel source for it at the HTCDev site,
but I see no compiled ROM there -- anything I can do with kernel source?
2. Anyone know where can I get the right PC10IMG.ZIP file to flash the unit from the SD Card? (I tried Shipped-Roms.com and
dozens of google permutations)
3. Is my methodology for flashing the SD Card right or is there anything in the
description above that lends anyone to believe my problem or solution is anything
other than the one I'm obsessing over?
Any help deeply appreciated.
Info from Hboot screen:
VISION PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.05.0013
MICROP-0425
RADIO-26.10.51.26
eMMC-BOOT
Apr 11 2011, 23:36:27
Image CRC:
osbl: 0x1B4C7A4C
amss: 0xEF10821B
hboot: 0xCCCC4C36
recovery: 0x9627D8E8
system: 0xB6CE69CE
Please tell me I'm a stupid Noob and I've missed something so obvious I'll leave a
facepalm scar on my forehead, then tell me what it is so I can fix this dang phone and
get my life back. I'd be one appreciative noob.
-b

Try again with the PC10IMG.zip, this time don't extract the rom image, flash the entire zip. If this doesn't work you may need to make a goldcard. This means you will need to boot the phone and get into setting to turn debugging on and will will also need to get the proper window drivers up and running in order to use adb. (Try holding the s key on the key pad while powering on, this may keep the bootloop away)
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demkantor said:
Try again with the PC10IMG.zip, this time don't extract the rom image, flash the entire zip.
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Yeah, sorry wasn't clear I extracted the zip from the RUU, not the rom itself, so I've tried this one already.
Safe boot doesn't boot -- gets me the HTC screen and freezes there. I'll keep trying, as I think gettting debugging on and going gold card may be my only hope if the problem isn't incorrect ROM (or if there's no finding the correct one).

Here's a simpler question: If in my hboot screen I see
VISION PVT SHIP S-ON
Does that mean the shipped ROM was vision gingerbread and that's the only one to try,
or could my wife's "system updates" upgraded the phone from a Bravo shipped ROM?
And when I get a CID Incorrect error on a Vision Gingerbread ROM, does that mean the WWE Vision Gingerbread ROM I tried to install isn't good because it's not Vodafone, or because it's not the shipped ROM?
Any help will be thankfully appreciated!

Sorry it took so long to get back,
ship s-on is referring to you have a shipped bootloader and your security flags are on, that line is not specific to any version of the desire z
You won't be able to flash any ROM like that unless it is an upgrade from current version. I believe if you go to HTC website the latest ruu was not released as an ota and may work for you as its probably newer. If it doesn't work then you will need to get super cid in order to flash something older, which means you need to get adb working
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