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I was wondering when I have upgraded my Himalaya with Magneto. Too many bugs made me worry. The 2 biggest was:
-ActiveSync wasn't working...
-Too many applications that I was using with Diamond cannot install...
Can anyone explain me WHY is this incompatibility there? I don't understand WHY Magneto is not able to install/run applications that on 2003SE are working perfectly.
Thanx.

oh oh oh ...
imagine , you've got a pc , with windows98 and a lot of software installed ....
and , you install windows xp sp2 on your pc , but you install all the old soft you have installed on your windows 98 ...
Do you really think that all your old soft run fine with win xp sp2 ???
Nooooo
it's the same with wm2005
wm2005 is a new os , and like with news , some old softwares don't run anymore

Yes I thing...
...and I know that's normal. This is a wrong example,because all the old PC soft that I have in my comp works fine in XP. Upgraded from '98. In XP you can run also new MS-DOS apps. WM2k3se/2k5 is not like 98/XP in PC.
Ex:Intellipad is not working in 2003,but only in 2003se! Therefore I thing,that's relatively new software. However this soft is not running in Magneto. I say it once again. WHY this uncompatibility? It's a wrong step for Microsoft.

hard to say for sure who is to blame
if it's the 3th party programmers who are cutting corners and making hacks in their programs and those hacks then are not compatible when ms make their os more "stable" or deside to inforce the rules more strictly
or if it's ms who change the stk and how things are don in the os because they feel like it and dont care if it means that 3th party programs will have issues
or if ms are doing the 3th party programmers a favour by making sure they can sell upgrades / new versions of their software

XM5
It's called MONEY.
If you upgrade your OS then in some (not all cases) you have to upgrade the software - and that costs you money.
Their viewpoint is:-
Why should the companies who write the software for one OS in particular have to cough up to make changes to that software when a new OS version comes out?
It is hard to make software forward compatible when you don't know what/when it is coming out.
Upgrade OS at your own peril.

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A little bit crazy...
MS WinXP supports the applications for Win98...
Then why not the same issue by mobile devices?
I don't understand coz it is not too much apps designated especially for Magneto. All the old software(even though it is very good) is then unusable...[/quote]

TomasNM said:
I was wondering when I have upgraded my Himalaya with Magneto. Too many bugs made me worry. The 2 biggest was:
-ActiveSync wasn't working...
-Too many applications that I was using with Diamond cannot install...
Can anyone explain me WHY is this incompatibility there? I don't understand WHY Magneto is not able to install/run applications that on 2003SE are working perfectly.
Thanx.
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Hi,
ActiveSync works perfectly in all possible ways: over irda, over bluetooth and over cradle (usb/com)
Did you install ActiveSync4???

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Yes I did it. I have tried up to 3 hours,have readed all the forums,did everything that's possible and no success to connection. I don't have IrDA in my laptop,but have built-in Bluetooth. No success also. Yes I couldn't connect that time via BT also with 2003se which works perfectly. Now I can connect via BT to AS,therefore it can't be so big problem. But the non-working applications made me worry. Shame... So good OS is the Magneto,but useless...

Don't get desperate!!
First things first, remember that this version of Magneto that you used to upgrade is not final. Hence, it will have bugs and compatibility issues. This is why most developers don't suggest people to install anything that is not final unless they absolutely need to.
As for the Windows XP vs 98 part of the thread, even though it is true that some 98 applications run flawlwessly on XP, you gotta remember what happened when XP first came out. Most (if not all) software and hardware to be installed warned you that you may have problems if you proceeded with the installation. Service packs and Windows updates knocked most of those issues out, which is why most 98 applications now run on XP. I hope this clarifies things

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Thanx. I didn't watch the PCOS Windows evolution and therefore I didn't know,that XP was the same example as Magneto. If the final version of WM 5.0 will be as the WinXP and the old-applications friendly,then it will be very good piece of software.

How to run software for PDAs on Smartphones

Hi everyone,
I have just recently switched from Qtek 9100(identical to I-mate K-JAM, 02 mini S and MDA Vario) to Qtek 8310 (identical to I-mate SP5 and O2 Orion). None of the programs I used to work with can install on my new phone. I have heard that maybe you have to emulate touchscreen in order for them to work.
Can somebody help with thi problem?
Thank you

Smartphone OS lacks lots of functions/features that are present on a PocketPC. Not only the touchscreen is missing, search microsoft.com for the complete list of differences. Generally it is impossible to force any complex PocketPC app to work on smartphone. But the reverse process is not difficult - most of smartphone apps can be patched to run on a PocketPC.

recall something about wm2005 being able to run smartphone applications
not sure if wm2005 for smartP's can also do pda applications
there is also the issue of smartphones being much less powerfull then pda's to think about

Maybe there is an option, or.... ?
Thanks guys, as for the hardware specs of the phone they are the same as my previous PDA - CPU is TI OMAP 200Mhz, 64ROM, 128 RAM, I have also inserted 1GB mini SD card and the OS is Windows Mobile 5.0.
If anyone can help with this I am still hoping to find a solution

Using an XDA IIs just as a wi-fi pda?

Hi,
I have an old XDA IIs that I don't use as my phone anymore. I just want to use it in the house on the wi-fi for net, skype and pda stuff.
What I'm wondering is, if I don't have to worry about the carrier (O2) because I'm not using it as a phone, then can I hack it a bit and improve the OS or is there something that you would recommend I do with it to maximize it's potential for non-phone use?
I guess if there is, then I have a few questions!
1. Would an alternative OS "find" all the features of the hardware? ie. camera/record/contacts/calendar etc. buttons and the keyboard?
2. Would it be worthwhile to install WM6? Would it be able to handle it? Is it possible?
I guess I'd just like to get the most out of it as it's a great device that could be put to good use instead of gathering dust in a drawer.
Many thanks for any replies in advance.
Cheers,
Rob.

1. only roms custom made for a pda will work unlike pc windows which include many many many various drivers then windows mobile only! have the drivers it needs and requires to work and or boot at all
2. yes http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=386

Hi again,
I've tried installing Windows Mobile 6 but I get this:
ERROR 100: MODEL ID ERROR
The ROM image that you are trying to use is not designed to work on your device. Please check the vendor website and download the correct ROM update.
Is there a way around this? Anyone experience this?
The XDA IIs is currently running: Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition Version 4.21.1088 (Build 15045.2.6.0)
Processor: Intel(r) PXA263
Memory: 125.77 MB
Should I just keep it at that, can I expect any better from an alternative/updated OS?
Thanks again,
Rob.

module id errror is typicaly if one try to install wm6 from another device then the one you own
"Should I just keep it at that, can I expect any better from an alternative/updated OS?"
there are only such a thing called alternative blue angel (the htc name of xdaIIs) os's no other will work
not sure what you mean by better i sugest you read the XDA-wiki and the blue angel wm6 forums for what people exp with these later roms
in terms of issues of incompatiblity and stablity
asking in those blue angel forums will also be a surden way of getting people who own the same device as you do to reply

Thanks for that Rudegar, I'll check it out!
Rob.

want to change my rom on my iclone any help plzzzzz!

hey im very new and looking to mod my iclone m99i from china, it uses wm6 but all these new roms that are out look and seem so much better, also user friendly. i i havent done anything like this before except upgrading my rom on my tmo wing using there download for their support page and active sync.
im no sure what my phone is running or what al this means:
windows mobile 6 professional
ce os 5.2.1711(build 18165.0.5.0)
2007 microsoft corporation
all rights reserved
this program is protected by
u.s. and international copy right laws
processor ARM926T OMAP850
memory 49.58 mb
expansion slot : not in use
could anyone point me into the right direction

this site is for htc devices....... you won't find anything here. you have to get a rom made for your device.

Uniwersal downgrade to WM 2003 ?

Hi all,
as in title, is it possible to downgrade HTC Uniwersal to Windows Mobile 2003?

No, WM5 only

Heniek_W said:
Hi all,
as in title, is it possible to downgrade HTC Uniwersal to Windows Mobile 2003?
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Why you want to downgraded to wm2003?

Heniek_W said:
Hi all,
as in title, is it possible to downgrade HTC Uniwersal to Windows Mobile 2003?
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It's like going back to windows 95 in your computer....
Uni came in with wm5 so you can not go before that, and there is no wm2003 roms for uni so NO...

tomal said:
Why you want to downgraded to wm2003?
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Yea, Why do you want to downgrade from wm5/6/6.1/6.5/6.5.1?

Cause everyone says, that Win 2003 was the best of Windows Mobile ever. So I want to try it

Haha, everyone who?
Yes, it was the best Windows Mobile ever....6 years ago.

yeah, but look
WM 5 was the slowest
WM 6 was qiute good, 6.1 too
WM 6.5 well......
And now I want try WM 2003 on my Uniwersal, cause for exemple 2003 for BlueAngel, as everyone says, is the best

Or maybe there is a Win CE for uniwersal?

i don't mean to bump this, however this needs to be said.
i wish there was a wm2003 for the universal. or at least a clean working vga wm5.
I got a universal a few days ago, i slapped wm6 realvga on it. res was great, loved it. speed? i couldnt even answer a phone call. Thats how slow WM6+ is. changing screen orientation caused me to miss phone calls. I've since downgraded to swat4's wm5, which lacks vga but overall is much much faster lmfao.
so.
wm2003(entire OS in ram, how can it not be faster?)>wm5>wm6.0>wm6.1>wm6.5.
if only i could figure out how to use ramfilesystem for wm5. that'd be fantastic.

Dpends which WM6 you use. Most of us have found a version we love and runs extremely fast, and would only revert to WM5 if we needed Video Call.
On that subject, I see fring is doing video call. It would be good if that comes over to WM devices

Just until recently I had HP hw6515 the beetle with 64 mb ram, PXA270 312 MHz and WM2003SE. And it was not better at all. The delay and lag was awful when you were about to receive call while doing something else, surfing for example. The only advantage was the old memory allocation where you could just slide the bar and decide what amount will be available for programs and what for storage.
I wouldnt trade id for WM6 or even 5.

Heniek_W said:
yeah, but look
WM 5 was the slowest
WM 6 was qiute good, 6.1 too
WM 6.5 well......
And now I want try WM 2003 on my Uniwersal, cause for exemple 2003 for BlueAngel, as everyone says, is the best
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WM5 was slower than WM2003 for other reasons than just the OS. This was when the WM platform switched from NOR to NAND flash chips. NOR is faster and allows programs to be executed directly without copying to RAM first. NAND flash operates more like disk and programs have to be copied to RAM before execution. This slows down the OS. NAND has other advantages though (cost, life expectancy).

http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/5870.html
hmm interesting
wm 2003 in this uni

Oh i'm also interested in the wm2003 - from the pictures, there should be an official wm2003 rom for the UNI but not available to the public...the article also mentionned 128 MB of RAM...Rom it should have said I guess.

I miss my old PDA2's system. it would be great to have it back on this Uni.