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Okay everyone, I feel like this a time for those of us that have to decide to renew our contract with Sprint...to make a real informed decision. I'm going to try and keep this short.
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I've been with every carrier EXCEPT Verizon and twice with Sprint. I always knew that Sprint's data network wasn't that great, but I found it usable (barely and often times frustrating). With my contract date ending on 5/3, I started looking at other carriers. I have friends on Verizon, TMo, and ATT. In a very non-scientific way, I decided to test the 3G & 4G speeds on those networks...later comparing them to Sprint. I always found my Sprint speeds to be the slowest...on both. Let me mention that I live in Kansas City...which is in Sprint's backyard...didn't even matter.
With the direction mobile technology is going...LTE is definitely here to stay. However, the battery powering the device is not improving (except for the Razr Maxx). And we all know that 4G...albeit LTE or WiMax, sucks the life out of the standard mAh battery in the device. Which is why, I use 3G most of the time...again, which is not that good on Sprint's network.
Even with the sexy Evo 4G LTE dropping soon, I am starting to reconsider my tenure with Sprint. Even with a good LTE network, 3G still plays a role...at least for me. Paired with my tests and the above article, it proves that Sprint needs to get their sh*t together. A great device means nothing on a sub par network.
I guess I'm angry right now and I don't plan to sit on the curb either. I really want to give Sprint a chance...have been for nearly 2 years. But, I don't want to be optimistic, only to be let down 2 more years later. So my question to my comrades is simple. Are you all going to stay with Sprint or look elsewhere?
Don't worry, I'm a big boy and I can take straight up responses. Sorry for the dissertation.
Regards,
sag
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You go to another carrier and get less data for more money, better speeds less quality. Sprints LTE roll out is bringing network vision with it which is enhanced 1x and 3g networks as well as LTE everywhere there is now 3g coverage within 2 years. I'll be sticking with sprint as I have been with every carrier and sprint has the best customer service and actually works with their customers. Vzw doesn't give a rats ass how badly they screw you and will even directly lie to your face to get you to change your plan, device, contract etc. ATT lte is spotty at best TMO is just a joke in alot of areas, and sprints network vision will far surpass all the other carriers by the end of 2014.
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I'm sticking with Sprint. The price plans for Verizon are so much more expensive than what I'm currently paying, and I'm not sure the benefits warrant the cost. Also, I'm optimistic that Sprint is at least trying to get better. Their venture into WiMAX set them back, but they've been moving to correct that. Lastly, I'll be spending the next four years in college where I'll have WiFi available nearly constantly.
See there are so many things I am weighing right now...in no particular order
Devices offered...to include future device offerings
Data Speeds
Customer service
Coverage
Rate Plans
Tethering (the XDA way ;-))
Time to upgrade
I have been following the development of Sprint's network and it really DOES look promising. However, I do not want to wait for nothing. I'm trying not to let impulse or frustration get the best of me right now...really difficult. I love my Evo and I am hoping the love will continue with the Evo LTE. I just want to love the network as well.
Thanks for responding and I hope this continues to create dialog.
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I'm sticking with Sprint. The price plans for Verizon are so much more expensive than what I'm currently paying, and I'm not sure the benefits warrant the cost. Also, I'm optimistic that Sprint is at least trying to get better. Their venture into WiMAX set them back, but they've been moving to correct that. Lastly, I'll be spending the next four years in college where I'll have WiFi available nearly constantly.
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By the time network vision is fully deployed sprint is targeted to have the best network in the country. HD voice, consistent 1.8-3mb 3g speeds and LTE with coverage everywhere they currently have 3g with the same signal quality and building penetration as the current 3g network means they will have LTE in a bigger market than any other carrier while having the same or better 3g as well and far superior voice quality, with the customer service they currently have sprint will be poised to be the top dog once again.
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here are a few things floating in my mind on why to switching carriers ( other than having NO COVERAGE aka im runnin in airplane mode just to save battery cuz there is no point on leaving radio on unless i like looking at the x over my signal bars lol)
-boy do i miss sim cards it was WAYYY easier to switch phones imo (yea yea you can even switch sprint phones by talking to them online but still swap a sim and wait sounds like fun)
-i mean the faster speeds would be nice and the limits on amount of data might be hassle but... i really dont find myself downloading roms over the 3g/4g radio (well ok maybe 4g but i dont have that in my particular area either but i get that could be nice) and tethering could be an issue (and i mean by other means not the manufacturers app) since there are caps butttt yeah there is wifi so many places and at the rates the size of phones are coming who needs to tether a lappy lol
-i guess im so over customer service where unless it is really really really really really need im just gonna try to fix it myself just cuz.
andddd to be honest i know this sounds like a stupid thing or maybe just dumb but att has this 50 unlimited plan for the go phone (annnd a sim only costs like 4 bucks or something like that which means no need to hack away with cdma workshop to get my phone on boost or something). downside is yesss you have to buy a phone off plan and yes you still will get throttled (right ? wasnt that what they are doin to unlimited plans?) but id rather shell out for a phone i want that im not stuck with due to contract annnd have my 50 dollar plan throttled than a $100+ plan throttled lol anyways those are some of my thoughts just thought i'd share
Been a power user of smart phones since they've existed, unlocking modding, etc.
I have never had a phone with worse data reception period.
Owned the GS2 since launch. Tried everything. Every combination known to man to get signal consistency that even comes close to an HTC phone or even my original pocket pc from UT Starcomm...
I once streamed a broadcast of the CUSA BBall tourney in the mountains in Co in like 2003 or 4 on one of those bad boys ...
No way I could do it on this galaxy s2. Not unless I was sitting still with no other devices at sea level in a giant grassland.
The phone is gorgeous, screen near perfect, feels great in hand, great durability, best phone I've ever had in almost every area...
BUT when you can barely browse the web, or use banking apps because timeouts and disconnects and 4g sleeping/searching won't stop...
It may as well be a paper weight. Will never buy a Samsung again; never should have left HTC. Tried as hard as I could to believe and prove that this was the best phone you could buy. Signal issues kill it in a long term use review.
Buy HTC. Radio is most important thing on a phone period.
I've been noticing the same thing with the signal reception. If this phone had a better radio it would honestly be the best phone. I will never buy HTC again because of the lack of updates and the piss poor battery life. Also HTC sense is garbage. But yet again these are just my opinions. If HTC comes out with a good phone that's not a brick maybe I'll try it.
Agree, they are big bricks and die quick, but the reason may be that they lock onto that signal like the fat guy that lucked into the insecure 8 or 9.
Big time web browser. Trying to justify switch to evo lte. Long term phone user and I get big time value mod, etc because of the price. Hard to dump something less than a year in for me.
Don't worry both Samsung and Sprint has the fix for you. They will release the fix in the near future.
Its called the Galaxy S3
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Signal Strength on FD24, FD26 & FE07 Is Erratic. Yeppppppppp!
I cant remember it being this bad on GB...but my memory is horrible. This signal bullsh*t on ICS is KILLING my battery, and i cannot charge my phone where i work. I have to walk with an extra battery and a charging case for that battery.
Sprint & Samsung have until the OTA to fix this issue...if this OTA fails to make the phone live up to a reasonable use of its potential...im jumping to Verizon & the Droid Maxx.
Between the GPS...signal stability & 3G speeds....ive just about f*cking had it.
it took you this long to realize this? when i had my samsung moment replaced 4 times due to data loss and modem issues, i told myself i would never buy another samsung phone. look how that turned out.
samsung has terrible radio support. it's not just the phone radio, it's their GPS and wifi too.
I read these threads all the time... Never really post in them a lot though....
From what I've read its all about the area you live in. I live and work in Center City Philadelphia and get ok to good 3G & 4G signals and never really have any of these issue of timing out, slow downloads or issues with browsing.
I do count myself lucky though cause when I go to visit my family (they live in the sticks) its wifi only for me... So I do feel your guys pain.
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SouthPhilly said:
I read these threads all the time... Never really post in them a lot though....
From what I've read its all about the area you live in. I live and work in Center City Philadelphia and get ok to good 3G & 4G signals and never really have any of these issue of timing out, slow downloads or issues with browsing.
I do count myself lucky though cause when I go to visit my family (they live in the sticks) its wifi only for me... So I do feel your guys pain.
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nope it's not the area you live in. having traveled to just about every major city in the US in the last 5-6 years, my moment and the e4gt have always lost signal completely multiple times. while travelling, my htc evo never once experienced those problems, and gps lock was always instant.
i dont believe it's an area/location problem at all. i think it's more like samsung has terrible cdma support. you dont hear much about their gsm phones having these issues.
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nope it's not the area you live in. having traveled to just about every major city in the US in the last 5-6 years, my moment and the e4gt have always lost signal completely multiple times. while travelling, my htc evo never once experienced those problems, and gps lock was always instant.
i dont believe it's an area/location problem at all. i think it's more like samsung has terrible cdma support. you dont hear much about their gsm phones having these issues.
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Yea its my job to travel weekly to multiple cities....and my HTC NEVER had such issues with the radio.
Yep never had a issue with any signal or gps on ANY of my HTC phones.
Samsung wireless radios are POS!
Waiting on user reviews to see if I'll get the EVO 4G LTE
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I live in Houston, TX the #1 coverage city for Sprint. First Samsung I've owned. Hardware was just so killer vs the then market leading (regardless of whether or not you liked the gimmick) evo 3d it wasn't close. Never knew signal issues could be crippling because I owned HTCs, so I never had issues.
The issues I did have... Build quality, shaky early sense, camera quality, screen quality... ALL don't even matter if you can't load a webpage, upload a photo, etc.
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Dose anyone even know if the S3 will carry the same radio the S2 has? many times the phone manufacture will use same hardware ie gps Bluetooth to same money.
Wow I must be really lucky. I live in Reno and I have never ever had any signal issues. sure it goes from full to 2 bars from time to time but I have never lost signal.
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Wow I must be really lucky. I live in Reno and I have never ever had any signal issues. sure it goes from full to 2 bars from time to time but I have never lost signal.
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Same here and I live in Alabama, nowhere near the areas that will see 4G or LTE first.
The OG evo has one of the best antennas on a cell phone, ever. You can't make a blanket statement that HTC is awesome when plenty of their phones have ****ty antennas. Have you used an Evo 3D or design? You would be complaining there too. God forbid you get an iPhone, which has the worst antenna I've ever seen. My store is literally across the street from a tower, and iPhones get 2 bars and horrible data speeda where my ET is pegged and gets 1.5mbit down on 3g.
You probably got your gs2 at about the same time the iPhone came out, when the 3g network got saturated with all the morons "upgrading" front 4g android phones or poor souls upgrading from blackberries with 1x. This phone has performed exactly as I expected it to.
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Wow......no "Cool Story Bro" posts yet? I'm proud of you guys.
Let's hope it stays like this.
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Wow......no "Cool Story Bro" posts yet? I'm proud of you guys.
Let's hope it stays like this.
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Stool Corey Bro /runs
PS: As much as i hate to admit this, its all true. I was playing with a friends photon the other day....this was getting amazing reception where as i get NONE at my house :\
Well first off I do agree that the E4GT does have a horrible modem/radio. The worst i have ever had on a smartphone. Don't get me wrong this is the best phone I have ever had but I get a GPS lock half the time I try and after a minute or 2. Its just pathetic. Ya I know some people say my GPS works great but my dad and 2 friends have this same phone and all have the same GPS and poor signal problems. So if your GPS works great you are very lucky. As for the data speeds I have ran speedtest side by side on the E4GT OG EVo and 4s side by side. E4GT>4s>OG Evo by not to much though(at least that is the results I got).
I think the biggest culprit here though with data speeds is sprints ****tastic network. I usually average 300kbs. I'm sorry but im not paying $180 a month for those kinds of speeds when VZW and ATT 3g speeds are 6-8 times better than that(not to even mention 4g and lte). Also VZW and ATT are not even more expensive. For the same thing Im getting on sprint I can get at ATT(3gb monthly data) for the SAME price. On VZW(4 gb monthly data) its 10 bucks more. I realized unlimited data means nothing if you have crappy speeds. If you alive in a sprint area were your lucky to get 4g or lte soon more power to ya.
As for buying a samsung phone? Its possible but not until 1) They stop making there phones ugly (not the sII but the sIII is butt ugly IMO) 2)get better modem/radio/GPS 3) change from pentile display. At least in online pictures the sIII's display looks worse than our phone.
HTC One X here I come!!! (sooo excited)
/end rant lol sorry/
I live on LI Ny, and the coverage is horrible here, I work in Queens, it's the only time I can actually brows the Web, besides wifi.. And no 4G on LI..
Bobby O's Epic Touch..
I have noticed that if you have your bluetooth connected and then enable gps, I don't get a gps lock until I disable gps, then bluetooth, and then enable gps. It's been like that on every ICS rom I have tried.
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This is something I just discovered the other day and it kinda bugged me out cause as far as I knew data while on voice wasn't possible on CDMA.. But I was inside a cafe getting lunch, and while on the phone I had to look up something on ticketmaster and was amazed that I was actually able to surf the web while on the phone. I have had blackberries, WM phones and an Evo prior to this and it was never possible (unless on wifi) I'm in NYC so there is no LTE available yet.. Has anyone who is in a non-LTE market able to do this?
I've seen this mentioned before by some others. Here's a link to one such thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764756
Thanks! When I saw this I kissed my phone, LOL.. But really this is why this phone is so damn amazing.. It makes it so much easier to quickly look something up then to have to say "lemme look this up real quick I'm gonna call you back".
Yep it's great isn't it. The newer phones on Sprint or at least Galaxy 3 and Evo LTE are svdo capable aka simultaneous voice and data. Thank God cdma networks can now do this (Sprint, Verizon) as the gsm networks (TMobile, and AT&T) have been able to do this for a long time.
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Yup! And don't forget the LG Viper it was the first LTE phone to bring the feature. Kinda messed up the Galaxy Nexus is the only LTE phone that don't support it.
yeah, I found this out today and I about screamed out of joy!. I was downloading G Maps and had to call my wife, so I called her and realized the 3G icon didn't go away, like it does on the Epic 4G (my last phone). And I had to tell my wife "hold on" and went back to my notifications and realizeed GMaps was still downloading. What a great feature on a CDMA phone. One more reason to love my GSIII I wish i could find out who thought of this, so I could buy him/her a beer. Peace!
i never even paid attention... usually the only time im using data while on the phone is at home with wifi or occasionally when im on 4g which of course is not cdma... never new this feature was implemented... good to know gsm no longer has the one up on us...
Does this chipset use a different 3G technology?
I remember when the Thunderbolt came out for Verizon everyone was amazed that it could do this and the reason was Verizon/Thunderbolt's Chipset was using some different type of EVDO revision that allowed it to work or something. Maybe I'm wrong on the technical details lol, but the general idea is right.....
Maybe I missed this but I didn't think that Sprints 3G service allowed for simultaneous voice and data.
I'm in Canton, Ohio and I just noticed that today I'm able to both use the phone and browse the Web at the same time without WIFI.
I can only assume that this is a network vision thing. LTE isn't in my future for a little while but I thought this was a good sign. Anyone else notice this?
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I noticed this in STL over the weekend, I am not sure how long it has been this way because like you I "knew" it didn't work so never tried it. I just happened to get an email while on a call.
SVDO isn't a network feature or capability. It's only dependent on the phone having multiple data and voice antennas, and the Galaxy S3 does.
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SVDO isn't a network feature or capability. It's only dependent on the phone having multiple data and voice antennas, and the Galaxy S3 does.
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So I can use data while on the phone with my Galaxy SIII??? Wow, that's AWESOME!:good:
Going to have to try this out once I'm in an area that isn't being 'visioned'.....right now I don't have connectivity even though my phone says that I do.
I found out the same way you guys did (im in Tampa) and did some reading and was really surprised to find out that our phones did out the box....made me love the phone even more.
Yes. Today. I received a call while downloading and it still downloading...nice.
Not like my Epic4g downloading a file 100mb and on 92mb some call you to say Hi!
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This statement isn't exactly true. It is both a phone and network feature. The towers need to accept multiple connections from the same phone id, as well as the phone needs to have the multi channel capabilities. Sprint used to block this, but doesn't anymore.
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Maybe I missed this but I didn't think that Sprints 3G service allowed for simultaneous voice and data.
I'm in Canton, Ohio and I just noticed that today I'm able to both use the phone and browse the Web at the same time without WIFI.
I can only assume that this is a network vision thing. LTE isn't in my future for a little while but I thought this was a good sign. Anyone else notice this?
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Reading this thread I thought you have all gone bonkers, but since my sgs3 is not connected yet I couldn't test this myself. Well my coworker has the evo lte.....hmm they have the same internals so I got him to try, it certainly does work. This feature is not advertised, would be hilarious if sprint didn't even know this.
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Reading this thread I thought you have all gone bonkers, but since my sgs3 is not connected yet I couldn't test this myself. Well my coworker has the evo lte.....hmm they have the same internals so I got him to try, it certainly does work. This feature is not advertised, would be hilarious if sprint didn't even know this.
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I noticed it just today as well, and lo and behold here's this thread! So I called sprint here a few minutes ago and asked the rep if they knew of it working.
They didn't. ROFL!
$MyName said:
I noticed it just today as well, and lo and behold here's this thread! So I called sprint here a few minutes ago and asked the rep if they knew of it working.
They didn't. ROFL!
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lmfao...another thought is this is not a part of the vision upgrade, just something to do with the s4 soc , I bet Verizons sgs3 along wIth other snapdragon powered phones can do it as well
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Reading this thread I thought you have all gone bonkers, but since my sgs3 is not connected yet I couldn't test this myself. Well my coworker has the evo lte.....hmm they have the same internals so I got him to try, it certainly does work. This feature is not advertised, would be hilarious if sprint didn't even know this.
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I don't know anything about Samsung ads, but the SVDO capability is listed in all the spec sheets I've seen. Sprint had to request the capability from Samsung, so Sprint must know the feature is included.
This was discussed many times since this phone was released. Shows how much people search and or research their own phone.
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This was discussed many times since this phone was released. Shows how much people search and or research their own phone.
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Ha. When Sprint activates HD Voice, I anticipate a ton of threads with people asking why voice calls don't sound better on the S3. Then, they'll throw a fit when they're told the S3 doesn't support it. It's just like all the people in non-LTE areas asking why their 4G no longer works even though they had full signal on their Evo or Epic 4G. No one wants to spend time researching their purchases.
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I have to admin that when I finally switched from my blackberry to the S3, I was so used to having wifi on that when I was on a call and my email was still coming in or I was able to launch a browser and look things up, I nearly went crazy. Being in IT I never looked up the phone specs to be honest other than being highly anxious to install applications from the Play Store and do things I couldn't do with my old device. Now I'm just looking for a good rom to root the device for wifi, lol.
I've been driving iSheep off the iphone5 with specifically this feature (not that there aren't at least a dozen more. I think that with the financial future of Sprint in the hands of Apple and the sales of iPhones the lack of dual antennas because it has a 'dynamic antenna' is going to cripple anyone who needs/wants that feature. To me SVDO is something that killed me when we didn't have it and now that I do I can never go without it.
Is anybody can explain then why when streaming the radio if I receive a text massage the radio stops (I know because of that ring) but it goes to buffer and chokes till start streaming again. This is the same as any other phone before so SVDS no benefit here.
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dito33 said:
Is anybody can explain then why when streaming the radio if I receive a text massage the radio stops (I know because of that ring) but it goes to buffer and chokes till start streaming again. This is the same as any other phone before so SVDS no benefit here.
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Mine doesnt choke after resuming pandora but at other times it chokes. Its just pandora not anything related svdo
Anyone know if the Sprint
Galaxy S4 will also do simultaneous voice and data on 3G like the S3 does?
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Anyone know if the Sprint
Galaxy S4 will also do simultaneous voice and data on 3G like the S3 does?
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No. The chipset does not support the SVDO capability.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-343-a-short-time-from-now-in-a-galaxy-not-far-away/
As for simultaneous voice and data, the Galaxy S4 does support SVLTE but is the latest in a long line of Sprint LTE handsets now to forgo SVDO. Realistically, this comes as no great surprise, as we have not seen SVDO capability in any new handset since last summer. Either this is a limitation of the Qualcomm MDM9615 baseband modem that has become standard equipment or SVDO is no longer a strong priority as Sprint LTE coverage grows weekly. Regardless, CDMA1X and EV-DO share a transmit path (indicated in the FCC OET diagram above); hence, simultaneous CDMA1X voice and EV-DO data is not supported.
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Since I purchased the phone in October I figured it was normal to NOT be able to talk and use your data... Wifi worked fine but I could never browse when I am on a call (4g etc), which was frustrating while trying to use maps. My phone was literally the first in the door at my store.
This was pre-root, and even now after Root and custom (Jedi Rom). Other than that my phone works flawless, not problems ever.
Now I may have to flash to stock rom, Reset my counter and unroot my device (such a hassle)
I am on the Monthly 4G plan with T-mo ($60)
Suggestions?
Any basic tests should I run?
Can Technical service tell I am rooted if I call them up?
Are you sure you're not on EDGE?
EDGE doesn't support simultaneous voice and data.
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This is the first time I've ever heard of this since I've been able to talk and use data even since the G1 days. I thought the only one who couldn't do that was Verizon.
Are you sure you were on EDGE back in those days?
Do a little Google search, there's hundreds of pages saying the same thing. There's even an ATT FAQ addressing it.
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This is the first time I've ever heard of this since I've been able to talk and use data even since the G1 days. I thought the only one who couldn't do that was Verizon.
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+1 been doing it since the mt3g phone after the g1 if you don't know lol I think its funny seeing those lame at&t iPhone commercials talking about surfing the web and talking at the same time... Been doing it for years you guys are a little behind lol
Was able to do this back on my g2x, usually be able to use Internet for couple minutes while on a call and then I guess the network would eventually "catch me" and it would stop working..
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Nice working just fine for me, stock un rooted. I thought AT&T was the only company that had this?
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Nice working just fine for me, stock un rooted. I thought AT&T was the only company that had this?
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Not to be a jerk but made me laugh lol we've had this for many many years.... I'm sure it worked with the g1 can't confirm cause I didn't own it but it worked with the original mytouch3g basically a g1 with no keyboard. Been talking on speaker and googling at the same time for years... Can even use the multi window and talk and surf if you wish to do it that way ...
I always thought the difference was in the technology the carrier used,
it was my impression that companies that relied on CDMA technologies, such as sprint, verizon, boost, etc, couldn't, but GSM companies could, i.e. at&t, t-mobile.
either way, if it never worked for me, i would just flash the stock rom available in the forums and hop on the phone to have a nice long conversation about what we would do to rectify this situation.
You're all missing the point, all the phones you're talking about are 3g phones, Even the venerable old G1 was 3g.
3g phones can talk and data at the same time as long as the data is on the 3g network. If you're in an area without any data service available besides edge, you will not be able to talk and do data simultaneously, whatever phone you have. That's true on any GSM network, unless you have some kind of phone that has multiple radios.
The reason the original non 3g iPhone could not do voice and data simultaneously was because it didn't have 3g. It was an edge only device. Nothing to do with being AT&T or anything like that. CDMA phones have some more limitations until the recent inclusion of multiple radios in the device, which I think started with the Thunderbolt.
The original iPhone was an amazing device for its time, big screen, no keyboard. I was happy to have one for years, but when the Nexus One came out Android has pulled studly ahead and never looked back.
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Yup. Even the g1 that I had could talk and use data at the same time. I was excited when I got the g2 because it had 4g ...until I realized the location I had moved to only got edge. Lol.
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You're all missing the point, all the phones you're talking about are 3g phones, Even the venerable old G1 was 3g.
3g phones can talk and data at the same time as long as the data is on the 3g network. If you're in an area without any data service available besides edge, you will not be able to talk and do data simultaneously, whatever phone you have. That's true on any GSM network, unless you have some kind of phone that has multiple radios.
The reason the original non 3g iPhone could not do voice and data simultaneously was because it didn't have 3g. It was an edge only device. Nothing to do with being AT&T or anything like that. CDMA phones have some more limitations until the recent inclusion of multiple radios in the device, which I think started with the Thunderbolt.
The original iPhone was an amazing device for its time, big screen, no keyboard. I was happy to have one for years, but when the Nexus One came out Android has pulled studly ahead and never looked back.
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Yes we know we are talking about 3g phones android had it right to begin with unlike apple... I did though have the first iPhone till I dropped it and half the screen decided to stop working... Lame crap! all in all we could talk and surf web for a long time and when phones were made with only edge there was not many devices that had worthy web browsing capabilities anyway. Don't think I'll ever go to CDMA I enjoy my sim cards and not relying on calling customer service to switch phones...
skater4690 said:
Not to be a jerk but made me laugh lol we've had this for many many years.... I'm sure it worked with the g1 can't confirm cause I didn't own it but it worked with the original mytouch3g basically a g1 with no keyboard. Been talking on speaker and googling at the same time for years... Can even use the multi window and talk and surf if you wish to do it that way ...
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You're not being a jerk I could care less everyone's entitled to their own opinion. Other then my GS3 I've only ever used iPhones with TMobile, and running on edge I know for a fact that never worked because I've tried it. This is the first time I tried it since I've been away from the iPhone
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skater4690 said:
Yes we know we are talking about 3g phones android had it right to begin with unlike apple... I did though have the first iPhone till I dropped it and half the screen decided to stop working... Lame crap! all in all we could talk and surf web for a long time and when phones were made with only edge there was not many devices that had worthy web browsing capabilities anyway. Don't think I'll ever go to CDMA I enjoy my sim cards and not relying on calling customer service to switch phones...
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The G1, the first Android powered phone, wasn't released until 15 months after the first iPhone; it better have done things better with that much longer time to market, don't you think? iPhone users were happily using large screen, thin form factor phones for a very long time while Android was just a dream. Your also not up to speed on VZW's current phones it seems. While they do use CDMA for the voice, the data side of the phone is GSM (LTE), and you no longer need to call customer service to switch your phone as long as you're on an LTE device, which all their newer phones are. I routinely swap SIMs among multiple VZW phones, it works just like GSM, number and account go with the SIM, not the phone.
You're still missing the point. The original post complains of not being able to talk and data simultaneously. I asked if he was sure he wasn't on EDGE, then the thread devolved into a bunch of "iPhone and AT&T sucks because my old 3G phone has always been able to do voice and data simultaneously." Totally irrelevant, even if you think iPhone and AT&T suck, because it has nothing to do with the original problem. Great, your old G1 did talk/data same time, how does that help the OP fix his problem?
As for all the Apple/AT&T hate from others, whatever blows your skirt up, I guess. AT&T has its faults, and its wins. Their network is a hell of a lot better at pushing a signal into every large building/mall/structure I go to here in Los Angeles' suburbs; most of them I get ZERO signal with my T-Mo Note 2. Verizon beats both, you pay a premium, but if you need a signal, VZW is best at getting it to you. I have high-end active phones on all three networks, and often do side-by-side compares. In my office building in Santa Clarita I have to use my VZW GS3 as a hotspot to get data flowing to my Note 2!
Re: the iPhone original being EDGE only. As I recall, in 2006 when the iPhone was being developed, and in 2007 when it was launched, 3G was only in a few major markets; releasing a 3G phone then would only have benefited a lesser portion of the customer. Apple tends to play it safe on a newer, more power hungry technologies to save battery. It's a design choice that most of their customers are happy with.
Anyways, back to the original post, technical support can tell you're on a different ROM if they ask questions about software details from the About screen and they don't match what the non-root phone should have.