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Been using the hotspot from sprint a custom rom and it works great better than wireless tether for me. I was wondering if i can get charged by sprint for using their app or is it included in sprints $69.99 unlimited plan?
If you are using a rom that has cracked the sprint tethering program, you wont get charged. However, its still against sprint's policy to do that, and they could charge you for that at any time.
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If you are using a rom that has cracked the sprint tethering program, you wont get charged. However, its still against sprint's policy to do that, and they could charge you for that at any time.
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Signing up for tethering is a contractual agreement. If you have not signed up to use wireless tethering they could hardly charge you.
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bobzoz said:
Been using the hotspot from sprint a custom rom and it works great better than wireless tether for me. I was wondering if i can get charged by sprint for using their app or is it included in sprints $69.99 unlimited plan?
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Nah. They wont charge you. How would they even know that you are using the sprint wireless tether for free. As long as the Tom you are using has the cracked sprint hotspot app you should be alright.
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they cant charge you there is no way they could find out dont worry you never signed up for tethering so no worries
This seems to be one of those things where as long as you keep your data use reasonable I don't think Sprint will pay much attention. I remember reading a few stories about people tethering exorbitant amounts of data however and getting thousand dollar cellular bills thrown at them with the reason being basically you signed a contract saying you wouldn't tether.
Are you feeling lucky?
(99.9% chance nothing will happen)
As long as you keep downloading of any large files or streaming of video to when you are on Wifi, your usage should stay pretty low.
I use my phone A LOT to stream radio talk shows and surf the web away from home and my monthly usage isn't even 1GB.
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This seems to be one of those things where as long as you keep your data use reasonable I don't think Sprint will pay much attention. I remember reading a few stories about people tethering exorbitant amounts of data however and getting thousand dollar cellular bills thrown at them with the reason being basically you signed a contract saying you wouldn't tether.
Are you feeling lucky?
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But how would they even know you are tethering. There are ton of tethering apps in the market and there is one on code.Google.com so who's to say you are even using the sprint tether.all they know is that you are using lots of data. And well as an evo owner sprints says we pay an extra 10 bucks for unlimited data anyway. So technically they Fu*ked themselves.
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My understanding is that with PDANet, tethering looks like normal data use. Does Wireless Tether or the hacked Sprint Hotspot app (warm 2.2) also show up as normal data use or can Sprint tell you're tethering over wifi?
I ask because apparently AT&T has been sending letters to customers who use MyWi forcing them to either sign up for a tethering plan or stop tethering... Can (would?) Sprint do something similar?
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Sprint can't tell unless they use Deep Packet Inspection and see something like "Oh hey, what's all this encrypted traffic coming from Netflix's server?".
As for AT&T, they're just yelling at anyone with high amounts of data usage. Simple as that.
I dont think think they can. Just the other day, I went to the Sprint store and the guy noticed that my Evo "looked" different! He said "man how you do that!" I showed him the Rom and told him about rooting, tether and all. He said " "damm. show me how to do that on mines"....i told about Unrevoked and XDA. NOW Im sure he could be reading this thread!
i'm not sure if they can, but i think they stated publicly that they dont care. their paid one just works better, and on 3g and 4g, while consuming less battery than the rest. this is their response, and i think it works well. self-advertising while not angering devs. pretty good of them.
so once rooted, do i have to download wireless tether or can i use the hot spot app without being charged?
Evo13 said:
so once rooted, do i have to download wireless tether or can i use the hot spot app without being charged?
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if you switch roms, most have a hacked hospot to work on 3g. wifi tether app also works on 4g.
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so once rooted, do i have to download wireless tether or can i use the hot spot app without being charged?
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you can do both no charge.
Sprint mainly checks for users exceeding the 5Gb per month for data. Other than that, it is difficult to tell without users feeling that their privacy is being invaded. 5Gb comes up quickly if you are streaming movies or downloading outside the normal browsing or youtube.
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I dont think think they can. Just the other day, I went to the Sprint store and the guy noticed that my Evo "looked" different! He said "man how you do that!" I showed him the Rom and told him about rooting, tether and all. He said " "damm. show me how to do that on mines"....i told about Unrevoked and XDA. NOW Im sure he could be reading this thread!
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Yeah, but it wouldn't be a store employee checking anyway. Either way, seems like they don't care.
My evo was rooted with revoked, but still using the standard rom. I was able to use wireless tether without converting to any other rom. Be sure to use the security features (passphrase and access control) to prevent inadvertent use by others.
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Sprint mainly checks for users exceeding the 5Gb per month for data. Other than that, it is difficult to tell without users feeling that their privacy is being invaded. 5Gb comes up quickly if you are streaming movies or downloading outside the normal browsing or youtube.
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Sprint doesn't have a 5gb limit on smartphone plans, that is only on data cards on the 3g network. I just watched a commercial yesterday with Dan Hess stating that Sprints unlimited plans have no limits, unlike Verizon and AT&T.
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Sprint doesn't have a 5gb limit on smartphone plans, that is only on data cards on the 3g network. I just watched a commercial yesterday with Dan Hess stating that Sprints unlimited plans have no limits, unlike Verizon and AT&T.
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they dont have a throttle, they just look into it if you pull that much. like somebody said earlier, if you're pulling 8 gigs from netflix's server, there is only one explanation.
Anybody know of any specific examples of customers getting called out for excessive data use or wifi tethering? I assume there would've been an outrage on XDA and I would've heard about it... I don't think it's happened yet.
I get it that Sprint says they're truly unlimited but I have a nagging suspicion that they're eventually going to crack down on unauthorized tethering. Not that that's going to stop me in the mean time!
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I'd have to dig through the contract and T&C but technically speaking wouldn't tethering without a plan be a contract violation? I'm not claiming to be Mr. Innocent here. I've done the free tethering and have had tethering plans. Just seems to me that since we all signed contracts legally speaking the carriers have more of a leg to stand on than we do.
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I think with the sale of tmobile to at&t, Sprint will increase their user base with people bailing either one. Maybe, hopefully not, they'll begin to check our usage.
Then again, they'll be moving to LTE. Which means those of us with wimax devices, yours truly, will be left to use our data to our desires. At least I hope so.
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I use over 20 gigs a month downloading files(ROMs, files for work, etc) and streaming videos to my phone and have for almost two years. Not once have I been throttled or warned.
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So it sounds like the takeaway is that if Sprint wanted to, they could tell that you're tethering, but there is no evidence that they've ever done it or taken any action against customers... Cool.
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Sprint is a member of the open handset alliance. They don't care.
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
I use Slingplayer daily for hours sometimes, then I'll tether my iPad 2 and watch movies from my computer while traveling around via AirVideo. I am currently at 10GB of usage this month which is average, they never throttled me or anything.
I've hit over 12GB of usage regularly with no complaints from Sprint. YMMV.
Wireless Tether for Root Users (hereinafter WTFRU) was the holy grail of free apps while I was on my rooted droid incredible. I routinely ran every piece of tech off my phone FLAWLESSLY (xbox live, PC, and touchpad)
Today I picked up a VZW Galaxy Nexus and root as soon as I got home. Much to my dismay, WTFRU didn't work (2.0.7). Tried the 3.1 Betas and even the experimental and it's no dice.
The closest I can get to running it is on 3.1-beta7 and selecting the Galaxy SII in device profiles. Tethering fails to start due to one error in the log, which reads: Activating WiFi interface.....FAILED"
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This is a huge let down. If you are like me and depend on this app follow this thread for updates.
stock tethering option works fine for 10 minutes .. then i have to re-turn it on again
i think its a bug in ICS 4.0.1 and will be fixed
Azdian said:
stock tethering option works fine for 10 minutes .. then i have to re-turn it on again
i think its a bug in ICS 4.0.1 and will be fixed
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I installed the OTA pretty early this morning so when I tried the built in tether option I got a pop up saying I needed to subscribe to service
Does the stock tethering app only work with the tethering plan? Wireless tether for root was one of the number one reasons why I went with android
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This is a huge let down. If you are like me and depend on this app follow this thread for updates.
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Followed. I used it all the time on my Droid to get wifi on my XOOM. Hopefully it'll be fixed soon now that the unicorn is out in the wild.
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That's a tall Nexus, dude.
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Followed. I used it all the time on my Droid to get wifi on my XOOM. Hopefully it'll be fixed soon now that the unicorn is out in the wild.
That's a tall Nexus, dude.
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Haha, well I'm 6'7" so I got mine custom made to keep things proportional
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Haha, well I'm 6'7" so I got mine custom made to keep things proportional
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♩ ♬ Well, I'm a long, tall Nexan...I wear a ten gallon hat... ♪ ♫
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Does the stock tethering app only work with the tethering plan? Wireless tether for root was one of the number one reasons why I went with android
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Yeah, I'm fairly certain to use the native tethering you must be signed for that $30 p/month nonsense that VZW offers wherein you're limited to 5GB of data No thanks. I was grandfathered into unlimited data - unlimited data + wireless tether =
I REALLY hope the dev gets on this issue. Here's a link to the support section and the open issue:
code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/issues/detail?id=1257
Maybe if more people star the issue and write comments it'll light the proverbial fire under his ass.
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Yeah, I'm fairly certain to use the native tethering you must be signed for that $30 p/month nonsense that VZW offers wherein you're limited to 5GB of data No thanks. I was grandfathered into unlimited data - unlimited data + wireless tether
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I'm grandfathered into unlimited, and nowhere on my $30($24 after discount) tethering plan does it state I'm limited to 5GB.
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Mean Bro Greene said:
I'm grandfathered into unlimited, and nowhere on my $30($24 after discount) tethering plan does it state I'm limited to 5GB.
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Oh, alright. Well, that's news to me! I briefly signed up for the service in 2009 when I had a Motorola Q. Back then I was told I was limited to 5GB....then I discovered PDAnet
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Followed. I used it all the time on my Droid to get wifi on my XOOM. Hopefully it'll be fixed soon now that the unicorn is out in the wild.
That's a tall Nexus, dude.
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Lol hilarious
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A contributor is already asking for some help from us. Going to get him the build.prop and whatever else he needs.
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Tethering working flawless on at&t GSM Galaxy nexus . Been using everyday for weeks now not one issue . Sounds like verizon has there hands all up in that cdma phone , hopfully cm9 fix the lockdown verizon has
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Tethering working flawless on at&t GSM Galaxy nexus . Been using everyday for weeks now not one issue . Sounds like verizon has there hands all up in that cdma phone , hopfully cm9 fix the lockdown verizon has
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*tears of frustration
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Yeah, I'm fairly certain to use the native tethering you must be signed for that $30 p/month nonsense that VZW offers wherein you're limited to 5GB of data No thanks. I was grandfathered into unlimited data - unlimited data + wireless tether =
I REALLY hope the dev gets on this issue. Here's a link to the support section and the open issue:
code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/issues/detail?id=1257
Maybe if more people star the issue and write comments it'll light the proverbial fire under his ass.
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You're only limited to 5gb a month on 3g phones. Oddly enough, if you have an LTE phone you have unlimited data with the mobile hotspot subscription.
Tethering is built into os....
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Some of us prefer to use other tethering apps, which on Verizon 4G is perfectly legal, thanks to Google's input in the FCC auction awhile ago.
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You're only limited to 5gb a month on 3g phones. Oddly enough, if you have an LTE phone you have unlimited data with the mobile hotspot subscription.
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That is helpful. I can justify $24 a month ( with my discount ) knowing that I will be getting unlimited tethering. I'll keep an eye out on the rooted apps before I make the plunge though.
Hoping that there will be a kernel released soon with both wired and wifi tether baked in. I use my Droid, not all the time, but if home or work internet goes down I wire tether. Wifi tether is great on trips to let my tablet get signal to watch Netflix or what not.
I have faith that it will easily get done.
Wifi Tether for Root Users is working again!
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Is there a trick or app that will let me tether my phone without att charging me?
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Is there a trick or app that will let me tether my phone without att charging me?
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Did you check in the development section?
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Im referring to a stock phone not rooted
Why not root your phone and tether? Not hard.
Use FoxFi if you don't want to root.. you'll have to download the apk HERE.
At&t won't let you download from the market.
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Use FoxFi if you don't want to root.. you'll have to download the apk HERE.
At&t won't let you download from the market.
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Good find
TBayTom said:
Use FoxFi if you don't want to root.. you'll have to download the apk HERE.
At&t won't let you download from the market.
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Thanks as well! :thumbup:
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Att won't let you download it? Is that recent? Cuz I downloaded it not rooted.
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They used to ban all tethering apps but maybe it's changed since the last time I tried.
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Foxfi doesnt show up in market for me on ATT, However verizon did get slapped by the FCC for blocking tethering apps because a deal they had with the FCC for the portion of networks they use, so maybe ATT will copy them since the two compainies copy eachother all the time anyway.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/31/...ettles-with-fcc-for-1/?a_dgi=aolshare_twitter
I personally don't tether. But i know a lot of people that do, some pay for the service from att, some don't. if att is forced to cease blocking tether apps it would almost guarantee a severe enforcement of their policy on"illegal"tethering.
I also wanted to use Foxfi before I rooted, but I couldn't find it in the market. I'm now rooted, so I used the CWM " Tether and Cell Standby Fix" from the MODs section from this thread. It works fine, but I'd be nice if there was a home screen shortcut to enable/disable it quickly.
Hate to go off topic, but in my Captivate I use MarketAccess to emulate the T-Mobile market. This allow me to install Foxfi directly from the Android market from my rooted AT&T Captivate. I can not get MarketAccess to emulate the T-Mobile Market on the SGS3. Is there a replacement or fix for MarketAccess or a hack to emulate the T-Mobile Market from an AT&T SGS3?
So if i use foxfi att wont charge me for tethering right?
I have unlimited data on virgin in Canada but my plan does not include tethering and they charge a high rate per mb for tether usage, if i installed a custom rom that enabled tethering would they charge me? they dont when i use apps like clockworkmod tether
Recent at&t customer here, pardon my ignorance...but I'm on the 5gb plan and I thought that it included tethering? Is this not true for all the plans? Seems to me if you pay for 2gb 5gb or a million GB you should be able to use it however you please......
The 5gb plan on ATT does not include tethering unless you pay for it which is an extra $40/month last I checked. If you use tethering apps with ATT and you dont pay for the plan they will send you a test and email stating if you dont stop that they will add the tethering plan to your account automatically.
They are quick on catching you now too. Last time I tethered I used about 200mb of data and I got the email, took a week or so after to get it and yes they can detect you. There are ways to not be detected but they usually can.
About the guy saying you should be able to use it how you want is so true. Verizon just lost a class action lawsuit over this and now have to allow tether apps (which are not illegal) because we should beable to use our data and apps anyway we want without our carrier telling us how. We did buy our devices and pay for the service.
So maybe now other carriers will back off so they dont get sued. Because it was a nice chunk of change Verizon had to let go.
The 5GB plan does include tethering. Using the WiFi hotspot now mad posting this.
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The 5GB plan does include tethering. Using the WiFi hotspot now mad posting this.
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Unless they've changed their policy in the last two weeks the AT&T 5GB plan does NOT include tethering. I'm a ex-AT&T IT employee with their now defunct unlimited data plan still in effect as they cannot pull it from me. On my old old rooted and ROM'd Samsung Captivate i'd tether constantly without issue. Since I got the Galaxy S3 (a month ago & still stock) I tried it two weeks ago and the message came up telling me to call AT&T. I called and was told it's a $50 add-on data plan for hotspotting. Hell with that, FoxFi it is, let them tell me I can't do it. it's my data plan and it's unlimited no matter how I use it.
Can anyone tell me if they're able to use the built in hotspot for free with unlimited data on Verizon, or perhaps an app that allows wifi tether without root on this phone?
Really want the Note 4. Don't mind waiting for root, or even if it never comes, but I have to have hotspot immediately.
Looks like Foxfi doesn't work on tmobile or Sprint Note 4 yet. They can use Bluetooth or usb but no wifi tether. Give Foxfi a few weeks and they should have it fixed.
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Looks like Foxfi doesn't work on tmobile or Sprint Note 4 yet. They can use Bluetooth or usb but no wifi tether. Give Foxfi a few weeks and they should have it fixed.
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Hmm yea that's what I'm afraid of. Need it day 1, not weeks. Will have to wait to order until there is a confirmed method.
I could be wrong as I've been out of the foxfi loop for a year or so but I thought KitKat and beyond broke that capability without unlocking through the carrier..... I bought tether by clockworkmod and use USB tether which works great. I wish WiFi tether worked as I'm in unlimited as well but I believe you need root otherwise to somehow disable the carrier subscription check. Anybody confirm this?
Foxfi works fine on unrooted Note 3 with Kitkat.
http://pdanet.co/help/devices.php
Hope they can work their magic on the GN4.
Look here for working Foxfi on Verizon Note 4. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56188053
I got my Verizon note 4. Activated the Sim it came with. I can verify that foxfi works....
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I got my Verizon note 4. Activated the Sim it came with. I can verify that foxfi works....
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Thanks for the confirmation. I am sooooo buying a Verizon Note 4!
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I got my Verizon note 4. Activated the Sim it came with. I can verify that foxfi works....
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Cool, put my order in. Will get it Monday!
I can also verify that it works. The FoxFi app walks you through the steps, you need to add a certificate, and every time you turn it on, you have to go into the system settings and turn it on there also.
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I can also verify that it works. The FoxFi app walks you through the steps, you need to add a certificate, and every time you turn it on, you have to go into the system settings and turn it on there also.
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Foxfi installed 3rd party spy ware certificate warning after rebooting be careful!!!
I don't know about FoxFi, but if you pay Verizon $30/month to add the WiFi tethering feature to your plan, you can legally use the Mobile Hotspot feature built into Android with your unlimited data plan. What's even better is you don't run the risk of Verizon catching you breaching their Terms of Service: if you're paying them for the privilege, then you are fully within your rights to avail yourself of that privilege. So even if Verizon is looking at all my packets and going "hmm, that looks a lot like Windows Update... wait, our phones don't use Windows Update!" they can't do anything to me. They would have no cause to terminate my contract.
I'm pretty sure the "base" Terms of Service for the unlimited data plan contract has a clause about tethering not being allowed. That restriction is lifted, of course, if you pay for the mobile hotspot feature. And no, turning on the mobile hotspot feature does not change your plan, so you don't lose your unlimited data by enabling it!
I'd rather not take the risk with something that you literally cannot get back if they take it away.
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I don't know about FoxFi, but if you pay Verizon $30/month to add the WiFi tethering feature to your plan, you can legally use the Mobile Hotspot feature built into Android with your unlimited data plan. What's even better is you don't run the risk of Verizon catching you breaching their Terms of Service: if you're paying them for the privilege, then you are fully within your rights to avail yourself of that privilege. So even if Verizon is looking at all my packets and going "hmm, that looks a lot like Windows Update... wait, our phones don't use Windows Update!" they can't do anything to me. They would have no cause to terminate my contract.
I'm pretty sure the "base" Terms of Service for the unlimited data plan contract has a clause about tethering not being allowed. That restriction is lifted, of course, if you pay for the mobile hotspot feature. And no, turning on the mobile hotspot feature does not change your plan, so you don't lose your unlimited data by enabling it!
I'd rather not take the risk with something that you literally cannot get back if they take it away.
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Maybe, instead of guessing and giving people the wrong information you can refer the the agreement Verizon has with the FCC. They are not allowed to block tethering.
http://www.cnet.com/news/what-verizons-fcc-tethering-settlement-means-to-you-faq/
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Maybe, instead of guessing and giving people the wrong information you can refer the the agreement Verizon has with the FCC. They are not allowed to block tethering.
http://www.cnet.com/news/what-verizons-fcc-tethering-settlement-means-to-you-faq/
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Maybe, if you had read the article you just linked me to, you'd see this gem:
Unfortunately, the answer to this question is no. Verizon says that customers under the unlimited plan are required by the company's terms of service to pay an additional fee to tether their device.
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So, two things:
1. As I said in my first post, Verizon would be entitled to cancel your service at any time if they discover you are breaching their Terms of Service (ToS). Irrespective of what Federal law says, they can write anything they want into their ToS, and terminate your contract at any time, for any reason. If Verizon thinks it is against their ToS that you're tethering on an unlimited plan without paying them $30/month, and you're doing it, then Verizon can cancel your subscription to their services, and there's nothing you as "the little guy" can do. This has nothing to do with the law, and just what Verizon is willing to accept, and what you agreed to when you signed up with them.
2. If you violate the Terms of Service, you could technically be liable for civil (non-criminal) penalties if Verizon can prove that you somehow caused them harm. I'm not sure if they'd bother trying to sue you, but it's possible.
Again, I stated that I choose this particular method because I do not want to take the risk that Verizon might have cause to cancel my services with them. That would be a very severe blow to me and I would have to search long and hard to find a viable replacement for the things I do (using lots of data on the road, for instance). It doesn't matter if what you're doing is legal or not. If Verizon doesn't want to offer you service because of something you did, they can cancel your service, and you have absolutely no say about it. I prefer to give them as few things to complain about as possible, to maximize my chances that my use of unlimited data will continue as long as possible.
The reality of it is that carriers still have us users by the balls, and they will never, ever be held liable in any way for refusing or canceling service to a customer for any reason. Since this is a service that is no longer offered to new customers and is highly valued, we have a lot of motivation to hang on to what we have.
Other people are free to take the risk, of course. That's their own decision.
I totally agree with you! I added Hotspot to my plan and love being able to do it legally. A large company like Verizon if they decide to cancel you for illegally tethering I'm sure nothing could be done.
You know what... you are absolutly right. I shall eat my delicious shoe. I did call customer service for clairifaction and oddly enough the rep I spoke with said tether away. They won't stop you for doing it. There are not that many unlimited subscribers left (out of 100mil, I don't know what not a lot means) but I asked them to note my account with those notes just in case.
I know I'm glad to be able to get tethering legally. I had such a hard time with AT&T grandfathered data. They definitely can tell if you bypassing their system. When I tethered the browser would redirect to a subscription page even though they don't have unlimited data with tethering. I switched to tmobile and could get around tethering block but coverage sucked, and dropped calls with full bars. I'm sure Verizon could block illegal tethering easily if they wanted to, I just want to be ahead of the game if they decide too.