Hi all,
I've just got my XDAIIs and am just playing about with it before I start loading all my apps and syncing with outlook.
I've got the Wifi working with my home access point (with encryption).
When I try and use Terminal Service to remote desktop to my pc it trys to dial-up to O2 Active GPRS - why won't it use the wifi connection thats enabled? I can ping the pc via hostname and ip fine though.
By the way, the XDIIs is setup for use on O2 as standard (it's a brand new contract phone).
Any ideas? ANy help would be appreciated.
Many thanks
i think if you change the type of network from internet to work on the xda iis, then it might work.
I had a similar problem with activesync over wifi and had to set network card to work to get it to connect.
I tried that and it was still doing the same.
For atest I deleted all connection settings.
Then Terminal Services told me that I HAD to create a VPN connection setting for the server I'm connecting to. I did this but it kept faling when trying to connect with user/pass error.
I then thought I'd try the IP address of my machine instead of the hostname - This worked straight away!!
So does Terminal Services not like hostnames? I was hoping to connect to my server when I'm away from home using my no-ip address.
Does anyone have a similar setup or can shed any light on this?
Many thanks
DOH!
Just realised I should be using the fully qualified hostname rather than just the pc name.
i.e.
"server.uniquetouch.local" instead of just "server"
"athlon1400.uniquetouch.local" instead of just "athlon1400"
"pentium4.uniquetouch.local" instead of just "pentium4"
"dell.uniquetouch.local" instead of just "dell"
Now that I've got that bit working, I'm going to add the O2 GPRS connection settings back in and see if it still works.
Have you tried pocketVNC yet?? im just about to install it as i run vnc on all our system instead of terminal services
I also recommend VNC viewer.
It acts, amongst others, as a remote control to my windows media player & winamp on my media server.
You can find it all over the place, but here is 1 link:
http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html
When I startup the remote desktop application and try to connect to a server, I get an error message if I haven't already connected to the internet with another application. I've tried installing the wm6 terminal services client from several different downloads, but I haven't found one that will cause my 8525 to connect to the internet when you run it. The error message that shows up is this:
Connection status
Cannot connect. Likely reasons are:
1. Specified computer name or ip does not exist
2. A network error occurred while establishing the connection.
If I startup IE and browse to a website, it will work fine. Anyone know what I need to do to make the wm6 TS client initiate the internet connection?
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When I startup the remote desktop application and try to connect to a server, I get an error message if I haven't already connected to the internet with another application. I've tried installing the wm6 terminal services client from several different downloads, but I haven't found one that will cause my 8525 to connect to the internet when you run it. The error message that shows up is this:
Connection status
Cannot connect. Likely reasons are:
1. Specified computer name or ip does not exist
2. A network error occurred while establishing the connection.
If I startup IE and browse to a website, it will work fine. Anyone know what I need to do to make the wm6 TS client initiate the internet connection?
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It uses the "Programs that automatically connect to a private network should connect using:" setting in Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced -> Select Networks. You can set it to the preferred internet connection, and that should make it trigger on attempting to connect with remote desktop.
N2A said:
It uses the "Programs that automatically connect to a private network should connect using:" setting in Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced -> Select Networks. You can set it to the preferred internet connection, and that should make it trigger on attempting to connect with remote desktop.
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I changed the private network settings to media net, but it still won't trigger a connection. I also tried setting it to isp, but that didn't work either. Any other suggestions? I can't be the only one with this problem.
I'm having the same issue.
From what I've read, this is about as good as it gets in wm6 unless microsoft decidss to release the terminal services client as a stand alone install for wm6. They changed the licensing in wm6. In wm5, the rdp client was a required piece. In wm6, it's an optional licensed addon. That means that unless our wireless phone provider is willing to pay to license the rdp client for our devices, it isn't officially available for them and definitely not supported. Unfortunately, the new AT&T didn't bother to mention that they opted out of the rdp client for wm6 on the 8525 in their upgrade notes. It's a shame really. I won't be buying another windows mobile powered device until it comes with the rdp client again or microsoft decides to stop being stupid and just release a free download for it like they do for all their other platforms. For now, I just hope that logmein continues to remane free and available. Technically, it's a far better solution for our devices than rdp anyway.
thexman said:
From what I've read, this is about as good as it gets in wm6 unless microsoft decidss to release the terminal services client as a stand alone install for wm6. They changed the licensing in wm6. In wm5, the rdp client was a required piece. In wm6, it's an optional licensed addon. That means that unless our wireless phone provider is willing to pay to license the rdp client for our devices, it isn't officially available for them and definitely not supported. Unfortunately, the new AT&T didn't bother to mention that they opted out of the rdp client for wm6 on the 8525 in their upgrade notes. It's a shame really. I won't be buying another windows mobile powered device until it comes with the rdp client again or microsoft decides to stop being stupid and just release a free download for it like they do for all their other platforms. For now, I just hope that logmein continues to remane free and available. Technically, it's a far better solution for our devices than rdp anyway.
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wtf...well anyways the client is around on the forums, so why worry about MS, and it has nothing to do with that, set your data connection to always on, and you wont have to initiate the connection with IE, Resco FTP, and the old aim client are the same way..
Built most of my site from behind the wm6 client, seems to work fine here.
RDP does not work with VPN
I have an 8525 with WM6.0. I am able to connect to the VPN through GPRS. However I am unable to use RDP. I have installed Remote Desktop Mobile but it will not connect to my terminal server running window server 2k. Does any one have any ideas?
Hello everyone,
I am looking into the idea of being able to run an SSH or VNC server on the Windows Mobile, specifically our Rhodium, platform over cellular (3G). I know for a fact Tmobile can assign a 'route-able' IP address to a phone here in the USA (this has been tested). I can ping this IP address from any computer on the internet (albeit with some substantial latency). Perhaps there is a way to use the Tmobile allowed "pinging your device" to tunnel SSH or VNC traffic.
I would like to figure out a way to reach an SSH or VNC server on my phone using this method. We would need to somehow "open" an inbound port to the phone (this would function like basic port forwarding).
All of this works perfectly over WiFi, of course, but the goal is to get this working over cellular 3G (in particular, Tmobile). I see this as a technical challenge we can overcome as a group.
Does anyone have any ideas on this?
Folks, someone must have some ideas on this!
Here's a few links I came across:
http://kar1107.blogspot.com/2006/03/running-servers-on-cell-phones.html
http://digg.com/software/Run_a_web_server_from_your_phone
it isnt possible they close all ports except if you use port 80 on your phone for the server then you can run vnc server mobile
Antonius123,
So you're saying I can run a vnc server on port 80 on Tmobile? I have tried to run a web server on port 80 with no success.
Which mobile VNC server allows you to set the listening port?
its a program that is in alpha mode.
you can get your ip adress from your mobile phone trough php it is sending the real ip and not the fake.
But you must be aware that ip changes every time you get tro a difrent tower (gsm tower).
create a php page on a webserver with this code
PHP:
<?php
echo $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'];
?>
Thanks for your reply, but I have additional questions.
I am able to get my real IP address from the phone by using VxUtil. This application tells me my IP address. Remember, I am able to have Tmobile assign me a 'route-able' IP address.
What is this program you speak of, which is in "alpha mode"?
The PHP code you provided, as I understand it, will simply give me my IP address, which VxUtil is able to do.
Were you able to somehow successfully access your device using the cellular connection? Which VNC software did you use, or did you use a different protocol?
It's interesting to note that when I check connectivity to my phone by doing "telnet IP_ADDRESS_HERE 80" I do not get a failure, the screen does hang as expected (Telnet can be used to see if ports are open without having a Telnet service running on my phone).
Can anyone please provide input?
Is there some tutorial/help on using hte Remote Desktop Mobile to connect to a PC? I haven't been able to connect TP 2 to my PC running Vista. I put in the Computer name, User name, password, and domain and when I clicked "Connect", it returned an error:
Cannot connect. Likely reasons are:
1. specified computer name or ip does not exist.
2. A network error occured while establishing connection.
I tried both domain name and ip. Made no difference.
I also tried both on 3G as well as WiFi but it made no difference.
You'll need to set up two things:
set the vista machine to accept the remote connections
http://howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/turn-on-remote-desktop-in-windows-vista/
forward port 3389 on your router if you have one
http://portforward.com/
Then you should be up and running!
'tunes
Thanks, mad-tunes. Got it working now, at least when connected by WiFi. And when the phone and the PC are on the same Wifi network, I can connect simply by putting in the computer ip address. No domain is required and no port configuring required too.
Lord_BlackAdder said:
Thanks, mad-tunes. Got it working now, at least when connected by WiFi. And when the phone and the PC are on the same Wifi network, I can connect simply by putting in the computer ip address. No domain is required and no port configuring required too.
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Good stuff, glad it helped a bit....
If you can't connect from the outside world (ie, using GPRS), then it's most probably a port forward thing...
If you want to get this bit working: How's the machine you're trying to RDP to connected to the 'net exactly?
(ADSL modem, router etc?)
mad_tunes said:
Good stuff, glad it helped a bit....
If you can't connect from the outside world (ie, using GPRS), then it's most probably a port forward thing...
If you want to get this bit working: How's the machine you're trying to RDP to connected to the 'net exactly?
(ADSL modem, router etc?)
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Yes, the PC is behind the router. So probably woould need to do port forward as you have suggested. Having tested it yet. Would try this out later this week.
I was wondering, is theres a way to do this if youre on a home edition of windows?
the home edition I dont believe has remote desktop.
Remote desktop mobile using 3G connection
Has anyone gotten remote desktop mobile to work using only a 3G connection? I've got it working perfectly using wifi but can't for the life of me figure out how to do it over 3G. I searched and the closest thing I could find to being helpful was the following:
I had the same problem till I created two VPN connections. One for internal use (WiFi) and one for extenal use (3G).
The internal one uses the internal IP address of the VPN server and the external one uses the external IP address.
You have to sleect which connection you want to use before starting the connection depending on whether u r using WiFi or 3G.
Hope that makes sense. It works 4 me.
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This makes sense but it's confusing about what to change in the VPN connection settings. Can anyone explain in more detail?
Thank you very much
squirtpunk said:
I was wondering, is theres a way to do this if youre on a home edition of windows?
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No. You can only use third party solutions like VNC. RDP host is not included in Home Edition.
You have to go into your router and set up a port forward so that 3389 goes to internal IP address of the system you want to remote into. If you have port forwarding/triggering, you can have a different port (eg, 3390) trigger to 3389 internally. If you don't have port forwarding, you can change the listening port from the default 3389 to, eg, 3390 and then you can create a port forward to remote in that way. To access, add :3390 to the end of the remote address (eg, 64.246.222.91:3390). The registry path to the listening port is:
HLKM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Terminal Server\WinStations\RDP-Tcp\PortNumber
You must reboot after changing the setting.
If you have a domain, it is incredibly useful to set up DNS for this, then you can simply enter the DNS name in the client. This works internally as well.
Update: So i just went to a Starbucks and tried using the wifi there to connect to my remote desktop and it couldn't connect!? But it can connect when I'm using the same wifi router as my remote computer does this mean I don't have the router properly port forwarded? Or is it some other issue? Any advice would be great.
Thanks
When you use your wifi at home, it ends up in the same IP subnet as the remote computer, so all you need to do is to enter the computer name.
When you're at a hotspot, you need to enter the public IP address for your router and step up port forwarding. Wifi outside of your home is no different from using EVDO as far as IP addressing is concerned. You must enter via public IP.
If you don't know what your public IP address is, open a browser from any computer at home and go to this URL:
http://whatismyip.com
It will tell you what the public IP is.
Cheap Loop-Hole
I got Remote Desktop to work on 3G.
First open Opera (or what ever your default browser is) set a home page to something that takes at least 5-10 second to load (if longer, even better), like an email account or m.myspace.com. Simple sites like m.google.com won't work because they load to quickly.
Close OPERA: I mean make sure its closed not just minimized.
This next part needs to be done rather quickly, so I advise making Remote Desktop a top icon in your Start Menu.
So Launch opera, and quickly launch Remote Desktop and hit connect.
Remote Desktop will piggy back off the Opera browser connection to get out to your computer.
Note: (make sure remote desktop works at home first, either by wifi, blue tooth, or direct usb, and by checking it from a computer outside of your network) once you know it works you should be able to connect to it.
Also note: as some one stated above, make sure that proper ports have been open on the computer and router than you should be good to go.
I'm sure their is a registry fix to get the remote desktop working without doing this, but this is the only way I've been able to do it for now..
Hope this helps...
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Thanks a lot guys! It's working just fine now (on both wifi and 3G!) turns out I didn't have the router properly port forwarded.
just started trying to figure this out today. spent about 15 minutes but couldnt get it going.
just installed windows7 on my old pc and im trying to get my htc tp2 (rhodium) to work with the preinstalled Remote Desktop Mobile application. i forwarded port 3389 on both tcp and udp since i didnt know which was necessary.
is a static ip necessary to get this setup by going into the ipv4 settings? also, what is the application looking for with the input for "domain"? - subnet mask? default gateway for my home network?
so far i have tried the following inputs in my tp2 for Remote Desktop Moble:
Computer: public ip
User Name: windows7 login name
password: windows 7 login password
domain: ???
any help is appreciated. going to try this more when i get home from work.
apathyps said:
just started trying to figure this out today. spent about 15 minutes but couldnt get it going.
just installed windows7 on my old pc and im trying to get my htc tp2 (rhodium) to work with the preinstalled Remote Desktop Mobile application. i forwarded port 3389 on both tcp and udp since i didnt know which was necessary.
is a static ip necessary to get this setup by going into the ipv4 settings? also, what is the application looking for with the input for "domain"? - subnet mask? default gateway for my home network?
so far i have tried the following inputs in my tp2 for Remote Desktop Moble:
Computer: public ip
User Name: windows7 login name
password: windows 7 login password
domain: ???
any help is appreciated. going to try this more when i get home from work.
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network-wise what you need to do depends on how your PC's connected to the 'net...
if it's connected directly via something like a USB ADSL model or Virgin media cable box, then you'll only need to let 3389 through your PCs firewall.
If it's connected via anything like a router, then you'll also have to allow 3389 through your routers firewall, as well as forwarding port 3389 to your machine inside your network.
it's the port forwarding which needs the internal IP of your PC, so a static one's a good idea (otherwise, if your PCs internal IP address changes it'll stop working). you could set your router to always hand the same IP to your PC MAC address, which can be the best of both worlds (and how I do it).
http://www.portforward.coms a good place to start to find how to forward ports for your router if you're using one..
You also have to go to control panel>system>advanced system settings>remote and set things as you need in the 'remote desktop' section.
if you don't have the 'remote desktop' section, then you're running one of the home versions of the OS which doesn't support Remote desktop conenctions (out of the box )
re domains...if its a normal home PC and nothing to do with a business, then you wont have to enter one at all.
Once you're at home, get your TP2 on your internal network (wifi), and then try to rdp to your machine using its INTERNAL ip (192.168.*.*) and see if that works.
if it does, the PC end's fine and it's your router config you need to get right. if it doesnt, then its something at the PC..
post back here if you still have trouble..
ok, so connecting with the tp2 via 192.xxx.x.x works fine from within the network at home on wifi.
however, once i try and connect with the public ip, it doesnt work. did the port forwarding thing.
i setup the static ip, i tried putting the host pc in the dmz, and still nothing. i tried disabling the host pc's firewall, and nothing.
in remote desktop mobile, im putting in the public ip of the host pc, and have tried filling in the username and password fields, and also tried leaving them blank.
any ideas?
apathyps said:
ok, so connecting with the tp2 via 192.xxx.x.x works fine from within the network at home on wifi.
however, once i try and connect with the public ip, it doesnt work. did the port forwarding thing.
i setup the static ip, i tried putting the host pc in the dmz, and still nothing. i tried disabling the host pc's firewall, and nothing.
in remote desktop mobile, im putting in the public ip of the host pc, and have tried filling in the username and password fields, and also tried leaving them blank.
any ideas?
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if its workin from inside your network, your PCs set just fine...so it must be the firewall or port forward on your router...
double-check that 3389s alowed through its firewall
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the forwards set to point UPD+TCP on port 3389 to the current internal IP of your PC.
tbh, I cant think of much else but let me know how you get on
ah, got it working. had to forward from ANY -> 3389, not 3389->3389. duh. works now.
thanks guys
Strange, you shouldn't have had to. RDP defaults to 3389 so the client should be using that from the word go (I know mine do!)...it could be a wierd router thing.
Depending on the exact option(s) you had to change to get it going though, it's making your machine a little more open to the outside world. but maybe not in a huge way....
(so, is it now AnyIP:AnyPort>YourIP:3389 or AnyIp:AnyPort>YourIP:AnyPort? I think forwarding all ports to 3389 would wreck eMule!)
It's probably worth changing the port used from the default though tbh.
Your change it in the PCs registry and add ortno to the end of what you enter into the client.
(so it'd be something like 192.168.0.1:3390, for example)
Then change the rules on the router to match, of course.
'tunes
I just bought a program called Remote Desktop Client (by Xtralogic) and installed it.
However, when I tried to connect to my work, I get a notification 'Socket Is Not Connected'. I called the helpdesk of my work and they say it is not possible to have the server running on my mobile device......
The address I m trying to connect to is 172.20.20.20 with domain 'flexinet.local'. I used the correct username and password.
Maybe you guys can help me on my way?
First...I wouldn't go sticking those IP details up for the world to see. I'm sure it's safe enough but still. Next, have you checked not only the IP but the ports are correct? Then you should ensure that those ports are forwarded from the external domain you're connecting to.
Another thing you may want to check is if this app needs the prefix, i.e. http://YourDomain.com etc.
Lastly...are you attempting to connect from outside the network? Are you connected to the network via WiFi or are you attempting to connect via 3G from a remote location?
172.20.20.20 is a private address... 10.x.x.x, 192.x.x.x and 172.16.x.x to 172.30.x.x are private ranges and not valid on the internet - you'd need the external ip address or the fully qualified domain name (FQDN)... RDP uses port 3389 (if it's not been changed on the server) so your firewall will also need to be open and the transport you use to connect will also need to allow 3389 (WIFI / 3G)...
That is assuming you're trying to get to your server from outside your local network...
Did you try connecting to your work vpn (if you have one) so you can get inside your work network, then use the rdp client to connect to your machine?
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