Unlocked Update Question. - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi my orange phone is now unlocked and debranded. If an update comes out in the future will it just update as normal or will i have to use a goldcard and also will it stay unlocked.
thanks
Dion

Other threads suggest keep the Goldcard in when doing it but they also say you will get locked again...another reason to get unbranded handsets!!

So i take it the only way i can fix this is to install an orange update in future.
Yes? / No?

By the way, does anyone know when we are gonna see an orange Uk rom. Or is there one out there somewhere

If the unlock was done via the IMEI number I would think that, even if the update locked the phone, the unlock code would work again.
That's my hope anyway.

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Unlocking the Rogers bootloader?

I've been trying to unlock my Rogers Arc's bootloader for a while now and it doesn't seem to be working. I've flashed WWE firmware that wasn't Rogers branded and I still can't get into fastboot mode. Is there any other way of unlocking the Rogers Arc's bootloader?
By definition, Rogers branded phones can't have unlocked bootloaders (as I posted in the other thread, blagus is trying to work around this)
Just want to add that SIM-unlocking your phone won't make a difference either. I thought doing so along with un-branding it would allow me to unlock the bootloader, but I was wrong.
DemonicHawk said:
Just want to add that SIM-unlocking your phone won't make a difference either. I thought doing so along with un-branding it would allow me to unlock the bootloader, but I was wrong.
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Wish it were true, but it's also bad logic.
SIM/network unlocking is independent of any software/firmware/bootloader.
The bootloader is loaded before any firmware/ROM (i.e. generic/debranded) meaning that altering anything on top of it wouldn't have an affect.
Right now, there's almost no reason to unlock the bootloader anyways. There are no custom ROMs available yet so the only reason would be to root 2.3.3 which can't be rooted with Gingerbreak.
Maybe this can help you? I haven't tried yet, but will do soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115989

[Q] Will I lose sim unlock after OTA Update?

Hi, I have a T-Mobile branded Desire HD that I bought from Amazon. It´s sim unlocked because I´m using it right now with another carrier in Uruguay. In fact I never used it with T-Mobile.
I guess it was sim unlocked using a code because it shows the T-mobile splash screen when I turn it on and it is S-ON.
I recently received the gingerbread OTA notification and before applying it I would like to know if I could lose the sim unlock after applying the OTA, because in case I lose it, I don´t have the code to unlock it again.
The ROM I have is 1.72.111.2 and it says release-keys at the end of the compilation number.
Did someone lost sim unlock after applying an OTA update?
Thank you.
Not it will not be relocked if you update the firmware.
Rockjock007 said:
Not it will not be relocked if you update the firmware.
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Thanks Rockjock007 for your quick reply.
Just one other question. In case for some reason I do get my phone relocked after the OTA update, is it possible to downgrade from the gingerbread version so I can root it and unlock it again?.
Thank you.
Well since you can not have it relocked after the ota upgrade your question is unaswerable. Blokes have done the ota update, reflashed roms left right and center and no one has reported that it relocked itself. Enjoy your handset! thank your lucky stars you are not on WND! LOL
LOL!, great. I will give it a try then and post the result.
Thank you!.
I have just applied the gingerbread OTA and it all went great!. The phone is still unlocked and running gingerbread.
Thank you!.

Stuck at Boot. S-ON.

@4m8 since you are the only guy here who knows best about HTC Desire 300.
Well my friend gave his Desire 300 to me for repair. i thought its going to be easy as like 1,2,3. but guess i was wrong.
I tried several options already.
USB DEBUGGING might be off as well since my friend doesnt know about flashing or unlocking bootloaders. i cant unlock the bootloader i think.
Its S-ON. (Dont know what it actually means).
I tried going to recovery but it shows me a PHONE with A RED ''DOWNLOAD MODE ARROW'' i think recovery is corrupted?
i tried already flashing boot.img and recovery.img over FASTBOOT. but it says ''failed remote signature verify fail''. its just isnt like my sony device which says OKAY all the time lol. those two files were found on a Google drive website.
i have no other options left to revive this phone.
Help will be a very good option :good: thanks in advance.
Well i read a lot of sites which says stuck at boot. and i cant find a Official Stock firmware for this device. is it that HTC didnt released one?
That sounds really bad. So let's recap to see if I understand your situation correctly:
Phone doesn't boot, can't enter recovery and will only load the bootloader. (b-loader status is S-ON Locked)
Now unless you are able to unlock the bootloader (which you aren't as you have stated) there is no way to flash a custom recovery.
The locked bootloader will prevent it because it requires anything you want to flash to be signed by HTC.
The only way out is to flash an actual official update by HTC which afaik is not available for this device.
To make matters worse, if the phone is branded you couldn't even revive it this way because some providers, like mine, actually force HTC
to prevent those phones from flashing an official HTC update that is not branded.
But there is a bright side to your situation. Since you weren't able to unlock the bootloader your friends warenty should still be intact.
And even if this was a branded phone try to claim a replacement from the manufacturer, that way you might have the chance to get
an unbranded device in return for the trouble you and your friend had to endure. :fingers-crossed:
Sorry if I had to shatter the last piece of hope that you were clinging on to but without an unlocked bootloader the only option that
remains is getting a replacement or begging HTC to release an update or the version that is installed by default as a RUU exe
PS:
Just to be certain, you did try the factory reset option in the bootloader before giving up, right?
4m8 said:
That sounds really bad. So let's recap to see if I understand your situation correctly:
Phone doesn't boot, can't enter recovery and will only load the bootloader. (b-loader status is S-ON Locked)
Now unless you are able to unlock the bootloader (which you aren't as you have stated) there is no way to flash a custom recovery.
The locked bootloader will prevent it because it requires anything you want to flash to be signed by HTC.
The only way out is to flash an actual official update by HTC which afaik is not available for this device.
To make matters worse, if the phone is branded you couldn't even revive it this way because some providers, like mine, actually force HTC
to prevent those phones from flashing an official HTC update that is not branded.
But there is a bright side to your situation. Since you weren't able to unlock the bootloader your friends warenty should still be intact.
And even if this was a branded phone try to claim a replacement from the manufacturer, that way you might have the chance to get
an unbranded device in return for the trouble you and your friend had to endure. :fingers-crossed:
Sorry if I had to shatter the last piece of hope that you were clinging on to but without an unlocked bootloader the only option that
remains is getting a replacement or begging HTC to release an update or the version that is installed by default as a RUU exe
PS:
Just to be certain, you did try the factory reset option in the bootloader before giving up, right?
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Yes i did. Factory reset. But still no luck.
Yes, i cant enter recovery as well.
Well it actually started ones it told me "Process System Not Responding". And on that point i knew the system files are corrupted.
My friend told me, he left the phone in deep sleep after that it didnt turned on again.
Thanks for your help @4m8 :laugh: :good: (IT ISNT MINE SO I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM) I will give this phone back to my friend.
*FACEPALM TO HTC FOR NOT RELEASING A OFFICIAL FIRMWARE*

Unlocking T-Mobile M9 phone?

I have a question and could find an answer, well maybe a few... First if you have an unlocked version of the m9 directly brought from HTC all updates come from them not any carriers? With that being said if you by a T-Mobile version and get an unlock code from them will updates still come from them or HTC?
madskills843 said:
I have a question and could find an answer, well maybe a few... First if you have an unlocked version of the m9 directly brought from HTC all updates come from them not any carriers? With that being said if you by a T-Mobile version and get an unlock code from them will updates still come from them or HTC?
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HTC updates the phones sold through HTC. Any phone with carrier branding has HTC submitting their software to the carrier, and then it's released after carrier approval. It makes no difference if the phone is locked, unlocked, used on a different network, etc.
The only way you can go about getting updates directly from HTC in the past is through S-Off and a CID change, effectively changing your device ID, but A: I'm not sure if this is still the case and B: If you're asking the question that you asked, this is going to be a bit too complicated for me to explain at the moment. So the simple answer is No.
madskills843 said:
I have a question and could find an answer, well maybe a few... First if you have an unlocked version of the m9 directly brought from HTC all updates come from them not any carriers? With that being said if you by a T-Mobile version and get an unlock code from them will updates still come from them or HTC?
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If you unlock the phone you will have to manually update the phone. If you stay stock you will get updates from T-Mobile, although they will lag the official (and XDA unofficial) releases by a substantial time.
Most folks unlock because they want to flash a custom ROM anyway, and will get updates on that ROM, rather than HTC or T-Mobile.
stevedebi said:
If you unlock the phone you will have to manually update the phone. If you stay stock you will get updates from T-Mobile, although they will lag the official (and XDA unofficial) releases by a substantial time.
Most folks unlock because they want to flash a custom ROM anyway, and will get updates on that ROM, rather than HTC or T-Mobile.
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hmmmmm actually depends on which UNLOCK. If he meant unlocking it to make it carrier free but leaving everything stock then it'll update automatically. If he unlocks the bootloader but still remains stock without changing anything then it'll be auto still. I believe the only time you need to manually update is when you alter the recovery partition of the phone (installing custom recovery CWM/TWRP/etc) which means you'll probably run a custom rom, which also prevents automatic updates.
Teo032 said:
hmmmmm actually depends on which UNLOCK. If he meant unlocking it to make it carrier free but leaving everything stock then it'll update automatically. If he unlocks the bootloader but still remains stock without changing anything then it'll be auto still. I believe the only time you need to manually update is when you alter the recovery partition of the phone (installing custom recovery CWM/TWRP/etc) which means you'll probably run a custom rom, which also prevents automatic updates.
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I'm assuming he meant unlock the bootloader, not the carrier. But I personally would not go to the trouble of unlocking the bootloader unless I was going to go custom ROM.
stevedebi said:
I'm assuming he meant unlock the bootloader, not the carrier. But I personally would not go to the trouble of unlocking the bootloader unless I was going to go custom ROM.
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yeah I got that, but he said unlock code and from T-mobile so I deduced it to carrier unlocking lol.
Well I actually already unlocked the boot loader and using custom ROMs so not that be of a deal more so for my understanding. So if everything was stock and just got an unlock code from T-Mobile to unlock the device and say used the phone on AT&T or Verizon where would the updates come from ? The carrier you are on at the time or HTC?
By the way that's for the help and responses guys!
madskills843 said:
Well I actually already unlocked the boot loader and using custom ROMs so not that be of a deal more so for my understanding. So if everything was stock and just got an unlock code from T-Mobile to unlock the device and say used the phone on AT&T or Verizon where would the updates come from ? The carrier you are on at the time or HTC?
By the way that's for the help and responses guys!
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You are not going to get updates for a T-Mobile phone while on an AT&T network, even if you stayed stock. I don't think the download would work, and even if it did the ROM would not work with your variant. I think they will detect that your phone is not AT&T and not even offer the update.
It sounds like you have installed a custom ROM. In that case you won't get OTA at all, from anywhere; you simply update the ROM when the developer releases a new version.
stevedebi said:
You are not going to get updates for a T-Mobile phone while on an AT&T network, even if you stayed stock. I don't think the download would work, and even if it did the ROM would not work with your variant. I think they will detect that your phone is not AT&T and not even offer the update.
It sounds like you have installed a custom ROM. In that case you won't get OTA at all, from anywhere; you simply update the ROM when the developer releases a new version.
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Yea I got that part was more just to understand how that process works thanks for the help
LOck again?
madskills843 said:
Yea I got that part was more just to understand how that process works thanks for the help
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sorry for my bad English , I unlocked my htc m9 tmobile changing the original rom, then I could enter the unlock code and it works with other networks , my question is , if I ever install the original version of tmobile is it blocked again ?
chamosolano said:
sorry for my bad English , I unlocked my htc m9 tmobile changing the original rom, then I could enter the unlock code and it works with other networks , my question is , if I ever install the original version of tmobile is it blocked again ?
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Who did you buy your unlock code from?and how much did it cost. Thanks
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18 dolar but your need change original software
You can get an unlock code from T-Mobile if you meet their requirements
Who did you buy your unlock code from?Do you have a link? Thanks
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chamosolano said:
sorry for my bad English , I unlocked my htc m9 tmobile changing the original rom, then I could enter the unlock code and it works with other networks , my question is , if I ever install the original version of tmobile is it blocked again ?
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SO did you have to root your m9 before you could enter your unlock code?please explain how you did it.I have the unlock code for my m9.I just can't get it to come up on the key pad to say enter unlock code.I put a Att sim card in my device.please explain what I need to do. Thanks
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chamosolano said:
sorry for my bad English , I unlocked my htc m9 tmobile changing the original rom, then I could enter the unlock code and it works with other networks , my question is , if I ever install the original version of tmobile is it blocked again ?
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Yes did the same and still unlocked after restoring my stock rooted T-Mobile nandroid

Google pixel xl unlock bootloader and flash factory OS. Germany

So I'm unboxing my xl in Germany. I know the bootloader can be unlocked. I want to flash the oem os from the Google.developer site. Don't want to have to wait for t-mobile to approve updates from Google first. Here are my question 's
Idiot guide to ulocking the bootloader. I know I need to do something with adb. Dow loaded fastboot and adb to my PC
Which Rom should I flash. There are 3 different marlin Roms available. All with a different letter at the end.
Sorry for the noob questions.
Thanks
As this is a developer forum I guess we can expect you to use at least the search engine for bootloader unlocking and flashing the firmware,ain't we?
For now everything looks like Deutsche Telekom didn't change anything at the running firmware and you're good to go by doing nothing at all but unlocking the bootloader.
Yes I searched and think I figured out the bootloader part. I was just wanting to make sure I wasn't overthinking it.
With that being said, I've also researched that they haven't changed anything firmware wise. Yet the community still says I wouldn't get the updates released from Google until tmobile released them....
So to complete the noob mayhem
If I'm not flashing a new firmware why am I unlocking the bootloader .....
I'm lost. Lol
I also got my device from the Deutsche Telekom and I'll just wait until the first Majorupdate (probably Android O) from Google. If the Telekom wants to do their "special quality assurance whatever thing" and need x months to released the update, I can still flash a factory image.
silencertk said:
Yes I searched and think I figured out the bootloader part. I was just wanting to make sure I wasn't overthinking it.
With that being said, I've also researched that they haven't changed anything firmware wise. Yet the community still says I wouldn't get the updates released from Google until tmobile released them....
So to complete the noob mayhem
If I'm not flashing a new firmware why am I unlocking the bootloader .....
I'm lost. Lol
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Some people believe if you unlock the bootloader, then your phone ever fails to boot, say after a bad flash, then you are not locked out from being able to reflash your phone to recover it. If your phone ever fails to boot, and the bootloader is still locked, you will not be able to unlock it to flash it.
I choose to leave my bootloader locked until I know I'm going to reflash a factory image (I typically do for a major release). I can still flash OTA updates through adb. Plus I'm reading that Android Pay is disabled when the bootloader is unlocked (that's a future for me here in Canada).
Read around and make your own decision.
Ahhhhh makes sense now. I'm expecting the tap to wake ota update to be out pretty son. So......... no idea
But thanks for clatyring things a bit more. So maybe I just won't mess with it for right now.
Still does anyone know what the difference between the three different marlin versions are ?
Afaik there are two hardwareversions: One is the US version which supports CDMA Bands and the other is the international version without CDMA.

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