Switching from Windows Mobile to EVO. Questions. - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I am a longtime Windows mobile user (started with the Cassiopeia in 1998), but I am ready for the switch to Android. Are there other former windows mobile users on this forum and , if so, how did the switch go. Any issues with Exchange Server sync? Also, I love using my WinMobile device (TouchPro2) as a USB drive. I have a briefcase folder on my storage card and can easily synchronize files within this folder with 2 PCs. Does Android offer similar functionality. Any other tips and pointers?

GermanGuy said:
Hi,
I am a longtime Windows mobile user (started with the Cassiopeia in 1998), but I am ready for the switch to Android. Are there other former windows mobile users on this forum and , if so, how did the switch go. Any issues with Exchange Server sync? Also, I love using my WinMobile device (TouchPro2) as a USB drive. I have a briefcase folder on my storage card and can easily synchronize files within this folder with 2 PCs. Does Android offer similar functionality. Any other tips and pointers?
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I made the switch a while ago from a whole slew of WM devices to a Hero. Trust me, you will never look back. There is nothing I ever used to do on my WM devices that I can't do on an Android. USB storage included. Plus, you'll actually ENJOY interacting with your device (especially the Evo) which was a very welcomed change for me. Do it.

GermanGuy said:
Hi,
I am a longtime Windows mobile user (started with the Cassiopeia in 1998), but I am ready for the switch to Android. Are there other former windows mobile users on this forum and , if so, how did the switch go. Any issues with Exchange Server sync? Also, I love using my WinMobile device (TouchPro2) as a USB drive. I have a briefcase folder on my storage card and can easily synchronize files within this folder with 2 PCs. Does Android offer similar functionality. Any other tips and pointers?
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Ha, just saw your Toten Hosen avatar. We used to listen to them in some of my german classes in High School...nice

I am a BIG WM user since inception. I have always enjoyed some of its features and definately its customization. The processors didn't catch up with the OS experience( in truth the WM OS needed a lot of tweaking ) but now with the newer processors the experience is much better but still not good enough for me to look back. I made the move the Android and will consider WP7 when it comes out. I live in and out of Routers and Windows Environments.
Exchange works great and I have moved a large group of clients over to the HTC Incredible and another group this week. They wanted the Apple IPHONE but without the potential of having an extra battery to carry around they had a problem with that. That was their decision not mine as I don't care either way as long as they pay me
They like the Exchange Sync and so do I. Is it perfect? No but it does work well. There are many ways to secure an Android to MS Exchange experience. They tested out the phones for 30 days and are more than happy to make the switch.
You won't regret it and if you do then you can always get the HD2 or HD2 T9193 that will support AT&T 3G.
Good luck and happy Androiding

if you want a good exchange experience, i recommend the app "touchdown". you have to pay for it, but it's far, far better than htc's exchange syncing support, and the dev frequently updates it.

Thank you for all the input.

I recently left VZW on a WiMo .5 on a xv6800 and totally love the Evo. It is SO MUCH FASTER and responsive.

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Sending Bulk SMS from PC through TP2

Dear all, I'm new to this forum and I'm looking for your qualified help.
I bought a short while ago a HTC TP2 with WM6.1. and I upgraded it to the WM6.5. using the original HTC ROM software. Before the Easter I've been trying to send several greetings sms to my friends, discovering the very limited sms capabilities of the TP2 (compared to my old Nokia N70) :-(((
1. I'm searching for a software application to install on both PC and TP2 to allow me typing SMS on my PC and sending them through the TouchPro2 (something similar to the Nokia PC Suite). Freeware is preferred of course. I've been googling for it, also doing a search on this beautiful forum, but I didn't spot anything reliable where TP2 is specified. Any good recommendation from your personal experience?
2. Actually cand someone point me to something similar to the Nokia PC Suite, does such a complete piece of software exist for Windows Mobile phones?
All the best to you all.
axelTP2 said:
2. Actually cand someone point me to something similar to the Nokia PC Suite, does such a complete piece of software exist for Windows Mobile phones?
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It looks like just using the features available in regular ol' ActiveSync/Windows Mobile Device Center would achieve everything Nokia's PC suite does
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It looks like just using the features available in regular ol' ActiveSync/Windows Mobile Device Center would achieve everything Nokia's PC suite does
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Thank you for the quick answer. I am using Win XP, therefore ActiveSync 4.5 is on the table. (I am unpleasantly surprised by the limited and decreasing capabilities of the AS 4.5 compared to much older versions like 3.7, but that's another story.)
Anyway, I am not aware of such a strong feature allowing me to type sms on my computer using the ActiveSync interface, therefore could you please give some details about this? I guess that I need more than that in terms of software and that's why asking on the forum. Thanks.
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Thank you for the quick answer. I am using Win XP, therefore ActiveSync 4.5 is on the table. (I am unpleasantly surprised by the limited and decreasing capabilities of the AS 4.5 compared to much older versions like 3.7, but that's another story.)
Anyway, I am not aware of such a strong feature allowing me to type sms on my computer using the ActiveSync interface, therefore could you please give some details about this? I guess that I need more than that in terms of software and that's why asking on the forum. Thanks.
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That's not a part of activesync natively, I was just covering everything I saw listed as a function of the Nokia PC suite...I didn't see that SMS was part of that.
I know there's a number of apps that will allow you to SMS via an ActiveSync'd TP2, the only one I happen to recall off the top of my head is Jeyo Mobile Companion. When I get home this evening I'll see if I can turn up any of the other ones I've run across. Jeyo's product is great, but not free.
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Thank you for the quick answer. I am using Win XP, therefore ActiveSync 4.5 is on the table. (I am unpleasantly surprised by the limited and decreasing capabilities of the AS 4.5 compared to much older versions like 3.7, but that's another story.)
Anyway, I am not aware of such a strong feature allowing me to type sms on my computer using the ActiveSync interface, therefore could you please give some details about this? I guess that I need more than that in terms of software and that's why asking on the forum. Thanks.
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I'm not aware of any such software available for TP2, though it seems Samsung has developed a similar ( like Nokia PC Suite) for the Omnia B7610 based on Active Sync, I'm not aware though if it will work on our handset.
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That's not a part of activesync natively, I was just covering everything I saw listed as a function of the Nokia PC suite...I didn't see that SMS was part of that.
I know there's a number of apps that will allow you to SMS via an ActiveSync'd TP2, the only one I happen to recall off the top of my head is Jeyo Mobile Companion. When I get home this evening I'll see if I can turn up any of the other ones I've run across. Jeyo's product is great, but not free.
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Sirphunkee, I was editting the post to give more details about the OS in use and about sms and probably that was the moment of your first answer. No harm done.
Thanks for the hints, I will see what Jeyo Mobile Companion can do. Of course other alternatives are most welcome.
With these limited sms capabilities of TP2 I feel like having 2 left hands :-((( Preparing a new sms one doesn't even get a view of the contacts list to click on the target name, but has to type the name. What about if having 5 or 10 persons to send to? Unbelievable unconfortable and unfriendly.
Sorry, the bitter comments are not addressed to you, but to the software designers which did not put themselves in the user's shoes.
Thanks for your open minded support.
axelTP2 said:
Sirphunkee, I was editting the post to give more details about the OS in use and about sms and probably that was the moment of your first answer. No harm done.
Thanks for the hints, I will see what Jeyo Mobile Companion can do. Of course other alternatives are most welcome.
With these limited sms capabilities of TP2 I feel like having 2 left hands :-((( Preparing a new sms one doesn't even get a view of the contacts list to click on the target name, but has to type the name. What about if having 5 or 10 persons to send to? Unbelievable unconfortable and unfriendly.
Sorry, the bitter comments are not addressed to you, but to the software designers which did not put themselves in the user's shoes.
Thanks for your open minded support.
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No problem
And we'll gladly add your opinions about how SMS is lacking on winmo to the pile that's already accumulated around here
Group SMS does not text from the pc but it DOES allow for mass sms. Also it is not free. That said, I use it to mass text people and it gets the job done nicely...you simply set up groups, check off the boxes of those you want it sent to, type your text and send.
http://www.handster.com/skb_group_sms_and_scheduler_52_best_selling_sms_application.html
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Group SMS does not text from the pc but it DOES allow for mass sms. Also it is not free. That said, I use it to mass text people and it gets the job done nicely...you simply set up groups, check off the boxes of those you want it sent to, type your text and send.
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Thank you akashastrega!
Yet I am a bit confused as you mentioned that Group SMS does not text from the pc, but, following your link, at the bottom of the page it says Skb Group SMS and Scheduler 5.2 does a PC application. May be there is a new version, if so I'll be most than happy. Also HTC TP2 is not shown in the Compatibility devices list, may be the list is old.
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It looks like just using the features available in regular ol' ActiveSync/Windows Mobile Device Center would achieve everything Nokia's PC suite does
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Not really .. I admit that I do miss the ability to send SMS/MMS from my PC thru my old Nokia. PCSuite also allowed you to view/delete your messages on your PC, selecting which you needed to keep and which could be discarded. I honestly expected some kind of PC software to come with my TP2 and was disappointed to learn AS was the answer.
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I'm not aware of any such software available for TP2, though it seems Samsung has developed a similar ( like Nokia PC Suite) for the Omnia B7610 based on Active Sync, I'm not aware though if it will work on our handset.
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Thank you for the hint. I installed the Samsung New PC Studio v 1.4.0 for Omnia, it looks nice and similar as functions to the Nokia PC Suite, but as expected it does not recognize my TP2 phone as connected (USB). A matter of drivers I would say, but how to solve it? Thanks anyway, I forgot that Samsung put on the market WM phones.
camell0ndosequis said:
Not really .. I admit that I do miss the ability to send SMS/MMS from my PC thru my old Nokia. PCSuite also allowed you to view/delete your messages on your PC, selecting which you needed to keep and which could be discarded. I honestly expected some kind of PC software to come with my TP2 and was disappointed to learn AS was the answer.
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I fully agree with you. All the major phone manufacturers are supporting their phones with a free PC Suite, I am disappointed that HTC didn't cover the WM phones. Active Sync is a very poor solution with very limited features. I know there is a HTC PC Suite for the G1 nad Hero Android phones, but not for the winmo phones.
Btw, I wonder if anybody asked HTC about a PC Suite for the WM phones, with TP2 in particular, and what was the HTC answer?
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Thank you akashastrega!
Yet I am a bit confused as you mentioned that Group SMS does not text from the pc, but, following your link, at the bottom of the page it says Skb Group SMS and Scheduler 5.2 does a PC application. May be there is a new version, if so I'll be most than happy. Also HTC TP2 is not shown in the Compatibility devices list, may be the list is old.
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This is a newer version from what I have, which did not have pc linking...apparently they have changed that, but to what extent I do not know. I run version 5.0 on my TP2 without any issues and it does a fantastic job!! I am pretty sure that if an older version runs good on my TP2, this updated version will work just fine.
Hi again. These days I managed to install and test both the Jeyo Mobile Companion and the Skb Group SMS and Scheduler 5.2. Both are nice and doing what they are supposed to do, but I consider the Jeyo Mobile Companion more user friendly, looking closer to the Nokia PC Suite I am used to and therefore more appropriate to my needs. So I will buy this one. The only drawback is that is doing only sms and not mms, but is good enough for me for the time being.
Thanks everyone for the good advice.
Sending Bulk SMS through TP2
You can enter multiple recipients manually or create a group where you add members and send bulk SMS like that. You can also search (or scroll if you don't want to type) through your contacts to add them to an SMS. You mentioned that you are not able to do this.
Can you tell me what limitations you've discovered in TP2's SMS?
Just curious.
Thanks!
I have been using PowerSMS and My Mobiler to bulk sms from my phone via PC. Although I do have a bit of lag when typing, but that may be the Fuze vs TP2.
Also, Google Voice can do this for you too. I won't get into the setup needed but you can bulk sms from that interface.
I've used Efficasoft mobile Express (free), but since upgrading to latest 6.5 ROM, I'm having a problem with SMS remaining in 'outbox'. I have emailed them and they're working in a fix.
Just thought of an application which could allow me to "bulk-text-message", and after reading here, I am giving PowerSMS a go...
My carrier here in Norway has a program I can install and use from Outlook. It syncs perfectly, of course, and I can just click all the contacts I want to send the SMS to and click send.
Maybe your carrier has something like it?
bym007 said:
Just thought of an application which could allow me to "bulk-text-message", and after reading here, I am giving PowerSMS a go...
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I enjoy using it. During NFL season I burn through thousands of texts to Fantasy league members, family, etc. I still haven't figured out a way to backup the Lists that I create so I end up having to recreate them after each flash.

EVO 4G on Windows Mobile

When are we gonna see a ROM flashable on the EVO 4G with Windows Mobile? People say WinMo is going out but Andriod has too many limits for me right now.
never
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Why not get an HD2?
For the love of god I hope we will never see such a horrendous thing. Good god man.
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ninja_unmatched said:
When are we gonna see a ROM flashable on the EVO 4G with Windows Mobile? People say WinMo is going out but Andriod has too many limits for me right now.
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What limits? I'm curious...
lets see here... I can choose an MP3 song as a ringtone and not have it get cut off.
I can find and download a lot of games and not have to pay 4 it. I can use remote desktop with not a lot of configuration and 3rd party apps. Should I go on????
You can do all that with android dude...
Something tells me no one is going to try to do this. WinMo is about as bad as Blackberry OS IMO.
As someone else said, why didn't you get an HD2? It's the almost same phone but it also has the WinMo from 1999 that you love so much.
Sounds more like you are just too comfortable with WinMo, and are afraid to step outside of your box and really learn Android. I'll take Android over WinMo anyday. Talk about limitations... not to mention lack of reliability.
As someone who owns a HD2 and a Evo, I have no idea why you would want to use WinMo, 6.5 is as glitchy as 5.0 was as CE was years ago when the MDA and pre-MDA devices were the new and upcoming thing. Whatever I was able to do on a WinMo device I can do on an Android device, you just have to google it.
Aren't we still waiting on a decent media player for Android?
I've been using TuneWiki, works fine for me.
You probably right but the HD2 is totally out since it is for T-mobile. I have Sprint. I had my GF get the EVO and it is a really nice phone but you cannot do everything you could do in WinMo.
I've gotten really good at the internet searching thing and hasnt been anything I could not find. From what I can see I love the phone the EVO.
What people forget is that phones are just small PCs. And Microsoft never changes. Explanation: Microsoft has long come out with OSs that were resource hogs=too much for the systems of the times. It is this reason I see why there is always more issues (in a lot of cases as well as user error) on the Windows platform. It is no different in Windows Mobile. I find my phone behaves like every PC I have worked on and the fixes have been the same. i.e. virus removal maybe, free up used resources, add more space, remove certain 3rd party apps (this is to a large extent a problem for WinMo. If software code was written bad it can cause issues in the OS.) , or total refresh.
WinMo is only bad cause we like to put alot of stuff on our phones. Also no 1 created like 1 good solution for certain problems. 4 instances media playback. You had to find several solutions in order to be able to play all the Video formats....by the way this has not changed with Android. Also as of now if you like having movies on phone will need even more space if you using Android due the being limited to playing mp4/h264 vids. Mp4 is still good but Xvid still has better compression/quallity ratio.
Since using my GF's EVO and having to install numerous apps to do stuff she got used to in WinMo I notice a performance difference so really the game has not changed. Android is what...Linux right.
I know linux too and it does have lower overhead to run but linux still after being around for awhile still has work to do. Ever has to deal with Kernel changes? Can be a real pain in anus when you get your Linux nice with cube running and everything and that new better kernel comes out and 80% if not 100% of the time you have to start over.
Linux is more ideal for smaller devices because of its smaller footprint but as devices are now getting better.......I've seen linux being used in vending machines (ever unplug 1 and plug back in and see it boot up on the screen?)
Having had both WinMo and Android, I cannot tell you how many times I had to reboot my WinMo devices (not from having too many apps either), versus my Android devices due to system freezes. Simply put, I can count on one hand how many times I've had to reboot my Android devices involuntarily, and still have a couple of fingers to spare.
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Having had both WinMo and Android, I cannot tell you how many times I had to reboot my WinMo devices (not from having too many apps either), versus my Android devices due to system freezes. Simply put, I can count on one hand how many times I've had to reboot my Android devices involuntarily, and still have a couple of fingers to spare.
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I wonder if the sampling rate is appropriate here: android devices have much more power and RAM than the older WinMo devices. My Uni is awesome, but slow. My Supersonic (EVO) is awesome and fast, but is it the OS, or 5 years of hardware advancements and the gobs of RAM?
AllanonMage said:
Aren't we still waiting on a decent media player for Android?
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whats wrong with MixZing?
EDIT: MortPlayer from WinMo even has an equvilent app in the Market.
Negrito said:
whats wrong with MixZing?
EDIT: MortPlayer from WinMo even has an equvilent app in the Market.
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idk, I'm just regurgitating something I read on another post here on XDA, that androind was still waiting for a TCMP type media player that handles it all.
As a new user to the Android OS, the ONLY thing I feel the platform is lacking is a good music player that has at least a 10 band equalizer like what's on TCPMP on my other phones. Until Android gets that, I'll continue to use my Palm Treo 700p as my MP3 player.
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idk, I'm just regurgitating something I read on another post here on XDA, that androind was still waiting for a TCMP type media player that handles it all.
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ah regurgitating is such a strong word...
AllanonMage said:
ah regurgitating is such a strong word...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699824

windows vs android

i just have to say even though i am living with my desire and android if you think windows was worse with all its faults it wasnt, i so fed up with how poor android is that i have to come and say android is **** as **** as windows ever was so ram a sock in it ahh feel better.
Seems like you wouldnt get along with ANY operating system... maybe even iOS is too hard to handle for you.
Solution: Get a Dynatac 8000 by Motorola. It was the first of all MobilePhones and should totally cover your needs
Seriously, learn to give some arguments when you already decided to post some bul*s#@t
Greets Mate
Windows better!
I assume you are talking about your windows double glazing of your home, if that is the case Andriod is useless in comparison and I agree!
If you are talking about Windows Pocket PC in comparison then I can only assume you have not turned your Desire on yet!
Sam
elburna said:
Seems like you wouldnt get along with ANY operating system... maybe even iOS is too hard to handle for you.
Solution: Get a Dynatac 8000 by Motorola. It was the first of all MobilePhones and should totally cover your needs
Seriously, learn to give some arguments when you already decided to post some bul*s#@t
Greets Mate
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Off topic.
I'm loving that Motorola
Just imagine the hardware they could fit in that if someone had the balls to make a phone that big today?
I have a Dynatac 8000 on my mantle peice .
The one on there dynatec 8000 is perfect.
Could we please get some pertinent, on-topic comments here? I am also interested in a realistic comparison between these two OS, cause I am about to switch from WM to Android and I'm not sure I will have the same functionality...
Thanks in advance.
Conrad
Well, I switched from WinMo 6.1 on an HTC Touch Cruise. It had a nice custom ROM and worked very well.
The Desire is just fabulous to hold and play with, but it doesn't do any more than the Win phone. Desire screen is beautiful and so much more responsive than the old one. Internet surfing is much better.
Having flashed the old phone's ROM many times, you might think that I'd jump in to doing the same with the Desire, particularly as it only has 2.1 not Froyo yet.
But, I'm nervous about it ..... all this talk of rooting drives me up the wall!
And, I have to buy sat nav all over again - Middle east, Europe and South Africa - there goes 200 Euros! (no, Google directions don't work here).
Sorry to ramble on.
HTH.
Right. I miss my Pocket PC. I miss how ActiveSync would lose the partnership every so often. And how I had duplicates everywhere in Outlook after I re-created the partnership.
Are you for real? Android wins over WinMo 6.5 anytime. I have used a WinMo device for over 2 years and Android is a hell lot better then WinMo, and no, it is not even as unstable as WinMo.
I love android but i find it so unstable, unrooted stock. Killed the original sd card, my new sd card is partly corrupt. Stupid apps issue no space (i know u can root but u shouldnt have to).
Otherwise android has loads of pros against winmo and id choose android any day.
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(taking about stock android, not htc stuff on top of it)
Missing loads of stuff from good winmo. Also missing customer support (non existent for android).
Missing a proper bluetooth stack.
Missing a robust email client
Missing a sync that doesn't pixelate pictures
Missing a functional gallery
Missing the birthday and anniversary field
Missing a call recording app
Missing proper gsm/wav support
Missing a real install to sdcard function
Missing a real integration with Office
Missing the fact that however limited, winmo worked out of the box, android is a permanently beta product, needing hacks or waiting for updates
Missing a stylus (hehe)
Missing a properly moderated forum and a more mature audience
But I agree that htc sense on top of android is miles ahead of manila on top of winmo, especially since you are comparing winmo devices quite older than desire & co.
You can't compare the two. It's like comparing an amiga 2000 to a pentium powered PC
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what have you got against the Amiga 2000 !! >:d
I went with android because I believe Google is slightly less evil than Microsoft.
As far as the os is concerned they both have pros and cons, its down to personal preference in the end.
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what have you got against the Amiga 2000 !! >:d
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Nothing ! It was actually a praise
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Missing loads of stuff from good winmo. Also missing customer support (non existent for android). - did ms give you customer support for winmo??
Missing a proper bluetooth stack. - no its not get your facts straight
Missing a robust email client - yet again no its not lol
Missing a sync that doesn't pixelate pictures - oh no thats a deal breaker lol
Missing a functional gallery - erm ok if ya say so pal
Missing the birthday and anniversary field - no its not duh
Missing a call recording app - only a perv needs to record calls lol
Missing proper gsm/wav support - yes just what we all need a hasbeen audio codec lol
Missing a real install to sdcard function - nand chips are big enough these days this isnt needed....
Missing a real integration with Office - it neva guna happen end of the day use your head
Missing the fact that however limited, winmo worked out of the box, android is a permanently beta product, needing hacks or waiting for updates - just because google updates the os and microsoft dosent, hows that bad? the udate function was just for show on winmo cuz ms are lazy
Missing a stylus (hehe) - not even worth a retort lol
Missing a properly moderated forum and a more mature audience - from your last post its also missing an educated audience
Missing loads of stuff from good winmo. Also missing customer support (non existent for android). - did ms give you customer support for winmo??
Yes, there was an email address and a phone number.android has forum support, which is non existent
Missing a proper bluetooth stack. - no its not get your facts straight
Android bluetooth stack is really poor and unstable
Missing a robust email client - yet again no its not lol
Gmail client has only recently fixed some major bugs about quotation and links. Stock email client is lacking a lot of functions
Missing a sync that doesn't pixelate pictures - oh no thats a deal breaker lol
Yes it is
Missing a functional gallery - erm ok if ya say so pal
3D android gallery is slow, dodgy and has an awful crop function for contacts
Missing the birthday and anniversary field - no its not duh
Stock android contacts don't have those fields
Missing a call recording app - only a perv needs to record calls lol
I won't even comment that
Missing proper gsm/wav support - yes just what we all need a hasbeen audio codec lol
Most voip answering machines send messages as attachments in that format.
Missing a real install to sdcard function - nand chips are big enough these days this isnt needed....
Funny you have a desire with 120 MB for applications...
Missing a real integration with Office - it neva guna happen end of the day use your head
Use what ? Have you ever worked in a professional environment?
Missing the fact that however limited, winmo worked out of the box, android is a permanently beta product, needing hacks or waiting for updates - just because google updates the os and microsoft dosent, hows that bad? the udate function was just for show on winmo cuz ms are lazy
Yeah right
Missing a stylus (hehe) - not even worth a retort lol
Whew
Missing a properly moderated forum and a more mature audience - from your last post its also missing an educated audience
What else to say...half your post has spelling errors, the other half is a "lol"
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I forsee in the future an new all encompassing OS called WinDroid mwuahahahaaa *cough*
I've used both, WinMo 6.5 on a hd2, and Android 2.2 on a Desire. The Desire I found is brilliant and really shows how much both Android devices and the Android operating system have come on since the initial release (my first android was a htc Hero running cupcake).
WinMo is good, i just find Android does better, the things I require from a mobile device. I guess its the apps that are streets ahead on Android, and the amount of free ones available. Windows mobile app development has pretty much come to a grinding holt, and even the apps that are available for both platforms, they seem so much better on Android (facebook app is a good example).
Also its interesting using the touch screen on WinMo 6.5 on the hd2 and also using it on Android on the hd2 also. Its like your using a different handset? The screen is so much more responsive using Android its unreal.
I really like the hd2 but after using the desire aswell, the Desire running 2.2 is my weapon of choice.
Of course the desire has my preference at the moment, of course it's also one generation ahead of my old touch hd.
My post was to point out some aspect of the immaturity and - at times - non-professional aspects of android.
It isn't out yet, but give me wp7 over the same desire hardware and I'm not so 100% sure which I will choose between htc sense and wp7. Give me stock android vs wp7 and I will choose wp7 blindly. Give me winmo 6.5.3 vs stock android and I will choose stock android very reluctantly.
I don't give so much importance if android has 20000 games, 30000 cool apps, etc. I only need 10-20 well made programs.
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[Discussion] Satisfied with Windows Phone (and the coming Apollo Update)?

On my blog, I recently wrote an article about some of the reasons why Windows Mobile 6.5 is still useful even with Windows Phone 7(.5) out. So with all of the news about Mango coming soon, do you think that Windows Phone 7(.x) has enough features to go ahead and completely replace Windows Mobile 6.5 or is there a reason why you still use Windows Mobile 6.5? For me (even though I do use Windows Phone 7.x), it's games and customization.
link to blog post: http://catholictechgeek.blogspot.com/2011/06/why-i-still-have-windows-phone-65-even.html
Update: I just got a part 2 of my article online and here's the link: http://catholictechgeek.blogspot.com/2011/06/why-i-still-have-windows-phone-65-even_07.html. Feel free to check out some of the other articles I have on the site as well. If you want, you can follow me on twitter too (link to my profile is @rctechgeek).
Update (6-25-2012): After a long while, I have finally updated my article with part 3, which includes the Windows Phone 7.5 "Mango" update (with a look at what has changed and what hasn't). Here is the link to part 3: http://bit.ly/LLsS7k
Update (6-28-2012): Part 4 is now up, continuing from where part 3 left off, for your reading pleasure. The link to part 4 is: http://bit.ly/NRzQdh
Yes, and yes. Im satisfied when Mango comes, but im not unhappy now ether. I recently sold my HD2 as my goodbye to WM. Keept my BA and some other old WM devices out of nostalgia, but there in there boxes now.
ditched my winmo as soon as windows phone was released and I didn't look back
Love WP7 as an OS, miss WM for it's eye candy/customizable.
One thing I don't like about WP7 is the Metro UI. While it is clean & what ever, it's missing the eye candy & ability to customize that WM or Android has. I understand a lot of people like it, but keep in mind that is an opinion. Not a fact & in my opinion, it's kind of dull looking.
All that said, I'll never look back at WM or Android. I just love how smooth WP7 is & the games/apps.
Yes n Yes. What I am missing most is garmin GPS (I live in indonesia and garmin is the only good gps with mapping system and POI here) and ability to search contact just like pc outlook, which will be sorted next update I believe
When I migrated from WM6 to WP7, I kept my old phone charged and ready for the first few weeks, because I wasn't sure I would be able to get by without some of the features it offered. Truth be told, it's now been sitting (uncharged) in a drawer for the past 5 months, and it will soon be sold. WM has nothing on WP7 in my book.
If, for some reason, it became necessary for me to leave WP7, I still wouldn't go back to WM, I'd go with one of the other modern smartphone OSes.
Yes...and hell yes!
Since the first day I used wp7 on my old hd2 I loved it....but then Android pulled me back in cuz hd2 didn't run it perfectly. And Android since then became annoying to me. iPhone was my first smartphone, and I found my self loading my screen with colorful icons I never touched. Android is good.....BUT even with a bloody dualcore it will lag and can't touch any wp7 device in scrolling. Wp7 is only getting better, and I can't imagine how wp8 will be plus windows 8 tabs.....God bless Microsoft!
Edit: I forgeot WM lol....it was cool for the few weeks i used it.
I have been a WM user for years... and I was excited when WP7 came out. I bought the surround Nov. 18th and it has been my primary phone. I also have some android devices I use for development and if it wasn't for the Zune media player and Zune Pass, I would be using android every day. I sure hope that Mango brings everything we as a group have been waiting for... Like multitasking and video MMS and......
Otherwise I am going to get an android phone for my daily driver and wait until WP7 matures some more.
But man do I love the Zune player and pass!
Though I love WP7 there are things that tick me off. Mango will correct them of course I just wish that MS gets to it fast and we do not see the cluster bang that we saw with NoDo. the problem really is twofold. MS really needs to push this OS and educate people on it. in metro Boston there is nothing on WP7 yet tons of stuff we see for android and ios. Secondly go into say a T-MO store and ask to see a wp7 device and get told why would you want that? we have this nice new samsung android here blah blah... MS needs to really step it up and get adverts out there that shows the OS and what it can do..instead of showing a bunch of peeps falling down or dropping devices in urinals’
I just converted from Android and I will not look back I love wm phone better than the other os out there I just wish they had two apps my bank chase and navigon or Tom Tom come on get onto this os it is great .
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There are some things I can't do, or things I can't run on WP7 that I was able to run on 6.5... But WP7, pre-nodo and now with nodo was slick enough for me to make the full change and simply adapt to it... I found it that good...
Mango will simply make it much much better...
The apps I miss off ole 6.5 are TomTom and Garmin... But Turn-By-Turn is filling the gap for now...
I first tried WP7 on my HD2 and the HD2 came alive and ran quick like it always could... 6.5 hobbled it...
The simple things done on the phone each day, like checking messages and emails and such is much quicker on WP7... Zip in, do what ya gotta do, zip out... Its the OS for the serious user...
Users who want a lot of fart apps stick with haemorrhoid and igroan!
Hi everyone. I have another article up with some more reasons that I keep a Windows Mobile 6.5 device handy. Most of them have to do with bluetooth, but not all.
link: http://catholictechgeek.blogspot.com/2011/06/why-i-still-have-windows-phone-65-even_07.html
For those of us who like games, you have to admit that Microsoft would make things a lot better if they made it easier to get console emulators on Windows Phone 7, right (you can run emulators under Windows Mobile 6.5)?
Steven855 said:
For those of us who like games, you have to admit that Microsoft would make things a lot better if they made it easier to get console emulators on Windows Phone 7, right (you can run emulators under Windows Mobile 6.5)?
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er...no...
I'm curious to know how many people actually used contact transfer via bluetooth in Windows Mobile 6.5. It seems to me that was a handy feature.
Steven855 said:
I'm curious to know how many people actually used contact transfer via bluetooth in Windows Mobile 6.5. It seems to me that was a handy feature.
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I didn't I just sent my contacts to my SIM card and copied them that way. How ever I will not be giving up my 6.5 HTC TP2. Not until MS installs a "windows" explorer allowing me to truly use my device as I see fit.
As for the apps I know people are working very hard on them and they are coming, no different than WinMo 5-6.5 when it first came out. In three years time I'm sure there will be tons of stuff we have created.
I had the touch pro, touch pro 2, and imagio so i was pretty seasoned in windows mobile. I just recently got the HTC Trophy and im satisfied with WP7. No more lag, a browser thats dependable and can play most videos while browsing and not worrying about the videos making the browser close in the background because of too much memory being used, being able to open text messages without lags and freezes and reply instantly, much better keyboard and music player
theres only a few things that somewhat piss me off tho, no file explorer, no custom ringtones (coming in mango), no usb mass storage mode, no wifi tethering at the moment, and on winmo i use to download albums single mp3's through the web browser and i was able to add those files to my library on the go without being tied down to using a computer and syncing.
but other than those gripes i love wp7 and realize its still within its first year and i dont expect it to have everything right off the bat but i love the os and willing to wait things out its going to be exciting watching this platform grow.
WP7 is ok, I like its simplicity, but I really miss the openness of WinMo.
I can't stand the absence of USB mass storage, I can't stand to be bound to Zune, I can't stand to be bound to my PC, I cannot stand the absence of file management with file explorer...
I cannot stand not to able to play quickly my DivX|AVI movie files, after a simple drag & drop.
I cannot stand the lack of decent storage (no swappable SD card, no slot for SD card, pathetic 8GB only devices...)
In September I will probably move to a high end Android device.
All my friends that used to have WinMo have now moved to Android and they all so satisfied
I realize I cannot stand locked down OS like iPhone and WP7
I thought Mango would bring some flexibility and openess... But it didn't
WM is nothing in front of WP.. if someone has both WM and WP and chooses to use WM instead of WP, he/she obviously has some kind of problem in his life..
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WM is nothing in front of WP.. if someone has both WM and WP and chooses to use WM instead of WP, he/she obviously has some kind of problem in his life..
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Or maybe, more reasonably, he just needs a flexible and open OS, without missing features.

PC Software –How to Run on Win Mobile?

I was wondering, tht when buying a new smartphone if I go with windows based OS on mobile, will I be able to run any software tht can run on windows based desktop computer? If not, such functionality is expected to come with forthcoming Windows 8 mobile?
PS: I wana run my live stock market terminal on mobile phone.
Since ver 7, the os is no longer called windows mobile; its now called windows phone. but to answer your question, no you can't run desktop applications on windows phone (or windows mobile for that matter) and this is unlikely to change.
That said I'm sure you can find another application to achieve whatever it is that you're after on the marketplace...
:-( my all needs are getting completed with an smartphone, but i guess eventually i will have to buy a laptop as well... just to run my stockmarket software.... Damn and they are telling smartphones (Like SGS2 etc.) are quickly replacing laptops...
PS: Wht is the latest ver. of windows phone called and, what is the windows phone marketplace url (Kind of new to smartphones)
Well for a lot of people smartphones or tablets can replace computers, most people aren't stockbrokers!
The latest version of Windows Phone is 7.5 Mango, which is currently at RTM stage - i.e. released to OEMs pending approval for new devices and upgrades to existing devices.
The Windows Phone Marketplace can only be accessed via the phone or via the Zune desktop software. The Zune software comes highly recommended from me, it's a very, very good media management software and I can't live without the wireless sync function anymore!
You can browse the marketplace through Zune without owning a Windows Phone device.
Perhaps you could let the community know what it is exactly that you need to do and someone might be able to suggest something?
EDIT: As you're new to smartphones, from a usability perspective Windows Phone 7 would be an excellent choice for you - it is simply brilliant to use, the interface is understated and elegant and the lack of pointless graphics makes it both simple and quick. Microsoft have clearly put massive effort into making Windows Phone highly usable and have surpassed pretty much all expectations, especially with the 7.5 update, which brings in a huge amount of functionality. A lot of people try and put Windows Phone down having never used it, because it's one of those things that needs you to spend 10 minutes with it to understand - but once you've spent 9 minutes with it, everything else just seems ridiculously complicated.
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:-( my all needs are getting completed with an smartphone, but i guess eventually i will have to buy a laptop as well... just to run my stockmarket software.... Damn and they are telling smartphones (Like SGS2 etc.) are quickly replacing laptops...
PS: Wht is the latest ver. of windows phone called and, what is the windows phone marketplace url (Kind of new to smartphones)
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Silverlight in Windows
Hi
Silverlight apps are currently available in Windows and I think that the concept being put out there at the moment is that Windows 8 will run the same apps as Windows Mobile 8.
Nobody knows if this will become a reality or not.
Cheers
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olivespin said:
I was wondering, tht when buying a new smartphone if I go with windows based OS on mobile, will I be able to run any software tht can run on windows based desktop computer? If not, such functionality is expected to come with forthcoming Windows 8 mobile?
PS: I wana run my live stock market terminal on mobile phone.
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The best thing for you to do would be to find a mobile version of the software you are trying to run. Then get the device that runs that particular software.
The closest you'll come to running your "exact" software on a mobile device is to get a Windows based tablet or laptop. But to run your stock software on a smartphone, you will need the "mobile" version of that software, if it exists.
Also, check to see if your stock-terminal application is web-based. If it is, you may be able to access what you need with ANY smartphone through the smartphone's web browser. That means your "stock terminal" would work on Windows Phone, iPhone, Android, etc.

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