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WM 5 is a piece of ****

It's very slow and it crashes all the time, plus it never sync my outlook well.

Don't you love intelligent conversation?

i like bouncy balls.

"It's very slow and it crashes all the time, plus it never sync my outlook well."
this is a fair comment, everyone is entitled to voice their opinions on windows.
Its just a shame that its so easy for people to make comments like this on WM2k5, I have to say, I am disapointed with overall speed. I think the swap into flash from RAM has contributed to this, but thats not the whole story.
My XDAII with 2k5 was faster than the universal. Bah. What did HTC or MS do wrong?

they dont have buzzzzz

Thats probably worryingly right.
Speaking of that, how did they "buy Buzz a Universal" fund come on?

excuse my language, but that thingy really piss me off.

Pyrofer said:
"It's very slow and it crashes all the time, plus it never sync my outlook well."
this is a fair comment, everyone is entitled to voice their opinions on windows.
Its just a shame that its so easy for people to make comments like this on WM2k5, I have to say, I am disapointed with overall speed. I think the swap into flash from RAM has contributed to this, but thats not the whole story.
My XDAII with 2k5 was faster than the universal. Bah. What did HTC or MS do wrong?
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Well, my calendar never gets synchronised properly. I only have my friday's activities every week when I told it synchronise everything. That's purely M$'s fault.

jackygurui said:
Pyrofer said:
"It's very slow and it crashes all the time, plus it never sync my outlook well."
this is a fair comment, everyone is entitled to voice their opinions on windows.
Its just a shame that its so easy for people to make comments like this on WM2k5, I have to say, I am disapointed with overall speed. I think the swap into flash from RAM has contributed to this, but thats not the whole story.
My XDAII with 2k5 was faster than the universal. Bah. What did HTC or MS do wrong?
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Well, my calendar never gets synchronised properly. I only have my friday's activities every week when I told it synchronise everything. That's purely M$'s fault.
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What version of Outlook are you using? And have you applied the latest service pack ?

Am I the only one to fnd that WM5 is a complete waste of time and not worth upgradong for let alone buying. It is in fact a huge step back from 2003.
First of all the flaky Activesync 4 which has had minimal testing on anything approaching a real world PC. How could any developer worth anything have not tested this on a machine with half-decent secruity measures, especially moving the sync protocol to use the TCP/IP stack. TCP/IP -> firewall -doh! (not the laughable toy Windows Firewall either).
Onto the operating system itself, where do I start?
1. The new "improved" memory management???? where is the improvement. How can you class something an improvement when it slows everything down, makes usability more difficult.
2. The communications manager. ....why???? a dumb interface hiding access to needed functions, especially when you are setting up a wireless access, why put on a pointless window just to be able to "switch on" a function???
3.GPRS why hide functionality again? Why remove the connect option from the icon on the top bar. Why do I have to start an internet explorer session just to connect to GPRS?
4.Messaging. Why remove the send/receive button? now we have to press menu then navigate to the send/receive function. So much easier to use...I think not... and why is Outlook email the default, we are not all corporate clones yet
5.Contacts. Where are all the customisation funtions, why can't i arrange the display to suit me. Why can't i select more than one contact at a time, which bright spark of an MS designer (whose only experience of the real world is the trip to the coffee machine) thought it was a good idea to only select one contact at a time....
6. Uninstall programmes, doesn't work properly, stupid error message about not being able to uninstall completley, then bits being left over even in soft reset, making a hard reset inevitable. double doh!!!
7.Installation failures, for example installing MS own voice command, warns not to install on anything but main memory but then when that is selected comes up with a classic null error message, and takes up over 50% of the program memory anyway.
For those of us who haven't got time to sit and devise brilliant technical workarounds, for us who have to deal with an irate user group having this approximation of an upgrade forced upon them. WM5 is a complete waste of space.

I THINK Buzz got given a Universal....

skearon said:
jackygurui said:
Pyrofer said:
"It's very slow and it crashes all the time, plus it never sync my outlook well."
this is a fair comment, everyone is entitled to voice their opinions on windows.
Its just a shame that its so easy for people to make comments like this on WM2k5, I have to say, I am disapointed with overall speed. I think the swap into flash from RAM has contributed to this, but thats not the whole story.
My XDAII with 2k5 was faster than the universal. Bah. What did HTC or MS do wrong?
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Well, my calendar never gets synchronised properly. I only have my friday's activities every week when I told it synchronise everything. That's purely M$'s fault.
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What version of Outlook are you using? And have you applied the latest service pack ?
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I have applied the latest patch and it is syncing just fine.

I agree with much that has been said above. Is their anyway of uninstalling M$ WM2k5 and going back to 2k3 2nd ed on a Universal (I-mate JASJAR)?
Chris H

Chris H said:
I agree with much that has been said above. Is their anyway of uninstalling M$ WM2k5 and going back to 2k3 2nd ed on a Universal (I-mate JASJAR)?
Chris H
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I don't think can be go back to 2k3 2nd ed because Universal just design for wm2k5 , same as BA runnig for 2k3 2nd ed , if MS don't had wm2k5 text verson in BA that we can't get wm2k5 in BA , as I knew HTC just install the ROM proved by MS.

Finance sofware...

Hello guys,
I have been searching around for applications that can automatically retrieve bank account information online, but haven't found anything that might be compatible with the Dash.
I used to use SplashMoney with my previous PDA (Sony PEG-UX50) and I loved it. It did exactly what I wanted. I was hoping there would be a similar program for WM5.0 out there. It would be neat to have it display your account balance on the Home Screen also.
Thanks in advance...

You might want to take a look at Microsoft Money.

I thought that was for desktops? Is there a smartphone version? I don't see it.

Have you ever heard of Handango.com...? Much of what you post would be answered by stopping by there, or any of the other major online retailers.
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I thought that was for desktops? Is there a smartphone version? I don't see it.
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I use FinPhone (http://subsembly.com/en/finphone.html) to retrieve account information and make payments via HBCI.

I haven't found anything yet that duplicates what Splash Money offers (no WinMo application available, but maybe in the next year based on an inquiry I placed into them). FinPhone looks interesting...is it available in English and does it work with US banks?

The best I found was SPB Finance, on my HTC Prophet. But I can't find anything close to that on the smartphone platform. I really need something to sync with Quicken.
I heard they were taking out a version of Pocket Quicken for Landscape smartphones. Maybe they will

FinPhone will work if and only if your bank supports the HBCI protocol (versions HBCI 2.0.1; HBCI 2.1; HBCI 2.2; FinTS 3.0). You need to check with your bank. At least in Germany, HBCI is quite widespread.
language: their site doesn't mention anything, so you might want to contact them directly.
As a side note, in my personal experience, if you are so inclined, using software in a foreign language is quite easy because all you need to look up are a few dozen menu entries, and that only once.

Anyone tried using StypeTap Platform on their Dash? It supposedly allows you to run Palm OS software on WM devices. Was wondering if we could get SplashMoney working on the Dash with this baby.
http://www.styletap.com/index.php

Try it out and let everyone know what you find.
.PoNeH said:
Anyone tried using StypeTap Platform on their Dash? It supposedly allows you to run Palm OS software on WM devices. Was wondering if we could get SplashMoney working on the Dash with this baby.
http://www.styletap.com/index.php
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WM6 vs. WM5

I'm ready to upgrade/flash my Dash, but just wondering, what exactly is the upside of WM6? I'm happy to be an early adopter and all that, but what will I notice to be improved?

if you haven't read every thread posted here about wm6 then you aren't ready to install it yet.
there are quite a few important changes you need to make imediately after installing.
the main advantages for me are the email enhancements and xt9 staying off pemanently. it also looks prettier. windows live seems to work better as well.
oh and the early adopters downloaded and installed it a month ago

lafester said:
if you haven't read every thread posted here about wm6 then you aren't ready to install it yet.
there are quite a few important changes you need to make imediately after installing.
the main advantages for me are the email enhancements and xt9 staying off pemanently. it also looks prettier. windows live seems to work better as well.
oh and the early adopters downloaded and installed it a month ago
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Thanks! Could you be more specific about the e-mail enhancements?

you can view HTML e-mail.

canadian student said:
you can view HTML e-mail.
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Is that it? How about alert customization depending on the account or something?

I have the files on my PC ready to go but I'm still using WM5 because I don't want my device phoning Microsoft or T-Mobile with my IMEI or other information. While you can disable it, the idea that your device phone's home should be kind of scary to you. Also, its BETA. I don't want my phone going crazy while I am on the road and I need it most.
JAmerican

its more then just html but that is nice.
you have the option to send mail when you hit send instead of having to hit send/receive as well.
you can keep mail on the server when you delete off the phone.
delete is moved to the left softkey instead of having to go into the menu.

I'm using WM6 on two devices, and although I wouldn't go back to the previous version, WM6 is JUST LIKE WM5. It's just that the majority of the applications have something or another that makes it that much more usable.
What I mean is, there are quite a few little features (and a couple additional applications) that make it an "upgrade." It's just like how WM5 was an upgrade to WM2003. It isn't an upgrade as much as it's update, if that makes any sense...
I'm pretty sure WM6 doesn't "phone home" or anything. I imagine this would have been found out by this point.

installation process
But, it sounds like upgrading is a whole lot more complicated than just running RUU_Excalibur... on my unlocked T-Mobile Dash. I then have to do a bunch of other mysterious steps?

richy240 said:
I'm pretty sure WM6 doesn't "phone home" or anything. I imagine this would have been found out by this point.
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He's talking about the app on the t-mobile beta wm6 rom which sends an SMS to a UK number frequently thus running up a high phone bill. Once that app is uninstalled it appears to be ok.

indiekiduk said:
He's talking about the app on the t-mobile beta wm6 rom which sends an SMS to a UK number frequently thus running up a high phone bill. Once that app is uninstalled it appears to be ok.
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Ugh... What app is that?!? Gotta make sure I uninstall that one...

rocky2 said:
But, it sounds like upgrading is a whole lot more complicated than just running RUU_Excalibur... on my unlocked T-Mobile Dash. I then have to do a bunch of other mysterious steps?
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they aren't mysterious. they are all well documented here.

lafester said:
they aren't mysterious. they are all well documented here.
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But there isn't exactly a step by step guide, at least none I found on a search.

You could write one...

I am using WM6 since first HERMES build appear.
PRO
Faster
Nice grafic presentation
Some applets (office mobile for smartphone could be one)
Windows LIVE (but is also available ad WM5 add-on)
CON
Is at least a RTM bur still some beta's DLL and drivers are out, meaning unpredictable results with some appz
No big improvements, I am using smartphone notes and documents to go and I HAVE a better office sute, having even some PPT editing, nice word usability and formatting
Needs to be patched just to work normally
HTML e-mail works ONLY with exchange server 2007
Conclusion
The Excalibur HTC ROM is fast and stable (we are talking STABLE in terms of a windows system ). Documents to go is much better than WM6 office, no compatibility for both with office 2007 doc formats, nothing really improved having the WM6 Rom at this stage .
WM6 is a MS business to boost VISTA compatibility and exchange server 2005 sales (all important new features are available ONLY uif you use exchange server 2005)
From user point of view better graphic is the only real enhancement

WM6 really shines when you are a corporate user with Exchange 2007 airsync. You have stuff like rights management, sharepoint proxy, calendaring enhancements and better office integration (with lates office clients you can also use new formats). There is much more info on the M$FT website.

Videochat software?

Ok, windows Live messenger mobile doesn't support it, neither skype... so the frontal cam of the trinity is useless?
Is it possible that the only way to make a video connection is a videocall? Doesn't really exist any software able to establish a videochat messenger like?

You can't say "it is useless except for video call" since this is exactly what it was designed for: 3G video call.
I understand that you prefer to use it for free, or cheaper through wifi connexion etc. and I wish I could do the same too.
Nevertheless, as far as I know, there is so far, only one sof which can allow you to make 'Instant messaging with video' on PPC, it is called Microsoft portrait. Something between Live Messenger and net-meeting...
There are two things which are not going to make you happy though.
1)
Video go through the rear camera, not the front one.
2)
Sounds as for other messengers, go through back speaker, not the ear-piece.
I had it installed a year ago on my wizard, but since I knew nobody using the same soft, I've never been able to test it out so far.
I'm ready to reinstall it on if you or anyone on this forum is willing to make some tests with me.
There is a version for PC, of course, so it is possible to test it on your PC too.
I heard it can work along with MSN, but both sides must have both softwares installed Live Messenger AND Microsoft Portrait.
You may ask: so what is the big deal about this software? the big deal is that this soft is optimised to use a very small amount of band-width, either 9600 kb (regular gsm connexion) wich gives a quite grey image, or broad band, wich gives you then full colors effect.
http://research.microsoft.com/resea...37d6-b663-45c3-ad4f-a1a500562c9d/details.aspx

maybe ms will change that in a later msg release
maybe in 2009 or 2010
with the efford they put into the platform :S

Rudegar said:
maybe ms will change that in a later msg release
maybe in 2009 or 2010
with the efford they put into the platform :S
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Actually, technically, it is already possible in a messenger application, from Tencent in China: QQ2007. And it uses the front camera.
The problem is that Tencent want to make a living out of this service, therefore, you have to be connected through the 3G service of a Chinese Telecom Operator, otherwise, it doesn't allow you to sign in...
Unlike previous version of QQ, when you are connected through wifi it doesn't work on the windows mobile version. There is a walk-around for nokia version, but nothing for windows mobile...
It's really a pity cause the technology is there, it's just a matter of that they don't want to provide it for free.

There are a freeware software for videochat: packetbone (an old release)
Another option is iFon from http://www.tabletmedia.com/ifon.html , seems the best solution for now
Best Regards Happy New Year!

APOLO_br said:
There are a freeware software for videochat: packetbone (an old release)
Another option is iFon from http://www.tabletmedia.com/ifon.html , seems the best solution for now
Best Regards Happy New Year!
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I've not understood whether this app can videocall msn contacts or not, and what kind of contacts is able to videocall...

the front camera isn't useless....
i use it instead a mirror to shave myself... hehehe

Text Messaging through PC?

I've done a little research into this and I'm wondering if there's an application to use that I can send text messages through my PC when my S620 is connected?
I found a Microsoft SMS program that seems to only work with non-smart phones. I would think they especially make an app for Windows Mobile phones if they have one for plain old cell phones.
Any know anything?

hey there
There's a product called TrueConnect but it aint free. Look for MyMobile which is almost the same, but ya cant text (that i know off) using it. If anyone knows any different, post a reply please.

DashWire allows it and it's free...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414214&highlight=dashwire

pfunkside said:
DashWire allows it and it's free...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414214&highlight=dashwire
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Great pose, this site is amazing... I would recommend that you download this program and create an account on this site.

does this work on WM 6.1 rom?? i looked at the site and all i saw was a download for WM5.

takeastand said:
I've done a little research into this and I'm wondering if there's an application to use that I can send text messages through my PC when my S620 is connected?
I found a Microsoft SMS program that seems to only work with non-smart phones. I would think they especially make an app for Windows Mobile phones if they have one for plain old cell phones.
Any know anything?
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There are a couple of apps mDesktop and Jeyo Mobile Companion

i <3 jeyo ......i also love delicious cakes and pies..

Yes it works for 6.1 just great... i would recommend download it...