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Hero update Iminent, but now if you have ROOT!

Check out this link:
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hero-update-confirmed-imminent-1852644/
Appears as though HTC are gonna address the lagginess expereinced by many (including myself) with an OTA update.
Those with root like me will not get the OTA update as ive read the firmware wont update on rooted phones. Im wondering whether people will put their chef hats on with the new update to create a rom based on it?

You could restore a backup from a point where you had not rooted your phone yet
It basically unroots itself that way.

ammurad said:
Check out this link:
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hero-update-confirmed-imminent-1852644/
Appears as though HTC are gonna address the lagginess expereinced by many (including myself) with an OTA update.
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That link makes no mention whatsoever that the update will be OTA - in fact, it says:
“HTC will be providing a software update for the HTC Hero, which will be available via the HTC website in the coming weeks.” HTC statement
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Via the website almost certainly means download and update manually. Being rooted shouldn't stop you applying the update, though you will probably lose root in the process.
Note that Google pushed OTA updates out for the G1, and the reason they didn't work on most rooted phones was because the procedure used to root the phone specifically switched off the OTA functionality to avoid the phone getting an update and losing root.
Regards,
Dave

It was confirmed prior to release that the Hero would be incapable of receiving OTA updates.

Ok thats useful information. We can just hope now that the update will get rid of the lag.

Someone needs to change the thread topic to
Hero update Iminent, but noT if you have ROOT!

ghoonk said:
Someone needs to change the thread topic to
Hero update Iminent, but noT if you have ROOT!
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I thought it was only OTA updates that rooted phones couldn't recieve.

Biffert said:
You could restore a backup from a point where you had not rooted your phone yet
It basically unroots itself that way.
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correct me if i am wrong but even if you back up with nandroid before rooting , running the backup doesnt unroot your phone.
anyway, it is not a problem. all u have to do is just to flash the stock rom posted on this thread and then run the update if this is the case .

I don't think ROOTING is the problem. I think that some people, in the process of rooting, end up changing the recovery.img with test keys which the update may check against and prevent the update.
I updated mine using ADB and used fastboot, so I don't think I actually changed the recovery.img, so future updates will just see my phone as a 'normal' unbranded device (albeit with Superuser.apk and su.apk, and the HTC CIME)

After OTA update, We will get the Custom rom of Hero soon (Like in G1)

2.1 unrevoked-rooted tmo -> unchanged 2.2 HOW?

this is my second thread about this issue, and PLEASE don't answer if you don't know how i could do this. i DON'T want a rooted/modded whatsoever 2.2, just the update that came today.
i guess my best bet would be flashing a htc europe generic rom and get the OTA, but how do i do that?

If your phone is from a network provider then it will more than likely need rooting even if you just want to flash it with a generic HTC ROM.
If it was purchased SIM free then it should already have a generic ROM and it will just be a matter of time before you get the OTA update.
Have you tried manually chacking for an update on the phone?

maxupp said:
this is my second thread about this issue, and PLEASE don't answer if you don't know how i could do this. i DON'T want a rooted/modded whatsoever 2.2, just the update that came today.
i guess my best bet would be flashing a htc europe generic rom and get the OTA, but how do i do that?
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Here's how
I'm Rooted and I still want the official update after reading the warning.
1) Make a goldcard using this guide (For Desire too)
2) Download this
3) Double click it and follow the instructions.
4) When the update is ready to be pushed out, you will get a notification.
(taken from the Official foyo update thread....please search or read before making threads like this)
Also consider looking at this
http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/307683/howto-unroot-your-htc-desire/
BTW, if you do this you will not be able to unroot again untill a new root is found which could take weeks, or could never happen. You loose the ability to install custom roms, or non sense roms.

@ shetlander: it IS rooted, but i'm not able to flash generic, it simply doesn't work
@jedipottsy: i don't have a micro SD card available, but as i said, the phone IS rooted, so i there any way to do it without one? maybe a dump of a generic firmware instead of a ruu.exe?
edit: i forgot to mention, i had a leaked 2.2 build flashed before, but then flashed back to t-mobile rom. what doesn't work ist the flash to htc europe generic

maxupp said:
@ shetlander: it IS rooted, but i'm not able to flash generic, it simply doesn't work
@jedipottsy: i don't have a micro SD card available, but as i said, the phone IS rooted, so i there any way to do it without one? maybe a dump of a generic firmware instead of a ruu.exe?
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nope, need an sdcard, can't flash an official over an unofficial, you need sd to restore to an older official.

Jedipottsy said:
nope, need an sdcard, can't flash an official over an unofficial, you need sd to restore to an older official.
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well i was able to got to a defrost build and back to stock without goldcard, i don't see why a htc generic can't function (

cant see the advantage of using the official, you loose too much for little gain
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741663 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741755
there is full 2.2 with extras, or plain with root, much easier to install and you dont loose root

thx jedi, i am actually flahshing the thingy with busybox(whatever that does), there's no way i'm gonna miss teeter ^^

maxupp said:
this is my second thread about this issue, and PLEASE don't answer if you don't know how i could do this. i DON'T want a rooted/modded whatsoever 2.2, just the update that came today.
i guess my best bet would be flashing a htc europe generic rom and get the OTA, but how do i do that?
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Download this rom:
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.zip
change the name to PB99IMG and put it on your gold card, boot into recovery and select fastboot, it will install the generic 1.21 rom, then when you check for updates the froyo update will be there, btw doing this wipes everything on your phone. Worked for me although I didn't install the froyo update as I am scared of the bootloader.

[Q] I'm rooted and I still don't have the 2.2 do I have to unroot?

I have a rooted HTC evo I still haven't gotten the update do I have to unroot to be able to download 2.2(froyo). I just want the update what do I have to do?

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A9AI5RM9
Thats the RUU, apply this update and you'll be completely stock 2.2

what do you mean apply I've downloaded this before I can't find the file to download and when I try to open it it says it doesn't have a program to open.

If you are rooted Most Roms will not allow an OTA to come through.
you have options the option listed above will unroot you and install 2.2.
the other option is to go to the dev forum and download a 2.2 custom rom or the rooted 2.2 stock rom. flash those and you are good to go.
I will remind that currently there is no way to root 2.2 so if you choose to go through the RUU and go to stock rom that way you will NOT be able to root at this time. It could also be WEEKS before a root method is found. I dont know why anyone would want to or would suggest doing this unless you plan to take it in to sprint for repair.

How do I apply the first file?

kidcjay25 said:
I have a rooted HTC evo I still haven't gotten the update do I have to unroot to be able to download 2.2(froyo). I just want the update what do I have to do?
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No you do not need to unroot. If you accept that ota update it will take away your root because the rom it puts in isn't rooted. I happened to download and try out froyo 2.2 like 3 days ago to see how it functions. It works very well however the update killed my hotspot completely. I ended up restoring back from Froyo 2.2. I will give a link that will take you to the downloads to do it where the rom comes rooted, and the radio and wimax drivers are there as well. Here it is.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740520 One thing to remember is this is not the absolute final build that is pushed out on the OTA update that they have done today. So my guess is very very soon if not already there will be a posted and rooted version of the final build. I am unsure and I am almost positive nothing is every final, but I don't know if you will be able to re-root your evo if you just accept the update from Sprint. If you no longer want a rooted phone and all you care about is getting the update, then you can or will have gotten the request today from sprint as I did or you can look for the update manually in system updates, from settings at the home page. Hope that helps and take care.

kidcjay25 said:
How do I apply the first file?
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I strongly suggest you do not just get stock 2.2 because you have no idea if you will ever root again. Unless your taking it into sprint it makes no sense. I really do not want to attempt to get you that file because its a massive mistake. The download does work though i already tried it that much i can say. See if someone else will actually tell you what you need to do because i'm not sure i can bring myself to do it sorry. I am slightly unsure how you ended up rooting your phone if you are having trouble with a download that has an executable file as in you click on it and it runs If you however need help downloading or flashing or whatever the other stuff that i linked that i will definately try to assist you with. If you flash a stock rom you can and will get the message to update the system and you can manually look for it too. The roms have that disabled so people can't due to ignorance, apply the update then say, "Oh crap I am not rooted how do I fix it?", which we will see a lot of today.

[Q] OTA update 3.26.605.1

I recently started getting system update notices for 3.26.605.1 on my D-Inc.
I'm running the "standard" clockworkmod recovery that flashed when I rooted the phone. As I understand it, I can not install the update because I'm rooted so is there a way that I can stop the notices (without unrooting and going stock)?
I've also read chatter on other forums about a fix or "root version" on the way from unrevoked, but I haven't been able to find anything official.
Can anyone confirm an update from unrevoked?
Thanks.

Hey Dude,
I figured I would get to you before the wolves do lol you'll probably get a better response to your questions in the "General" section. To answer you directly there is already rooted versions of this OTA such as (shameless plug) both my Roms Redemptive rEVOlution (Evo hybrid) and Redemption Rom.

OK. Thanks.

RuLEoF2 said:
OK. Thanks.
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Not a problem enjoy Rom hunting.

RuLEoF2 said:
I recently started getting system update notices for 3.26.605.1 on my D-Inc.
I'm running the "standard" clockworkmod recovery that flashed when I rooted the phone. As I understand it, I can not install the update because I'm rooted so is there a way that I can stop the notices (without unrooting and going stock)?
I've also read chatter on other forums about a fix or "root version" on the way from unrevoked, but I haven't been able to find anything official.
Can anyone confirm an update from unrevoked?
Thanks.
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I've been hitting Cancel on that update message for the last 2 weeks. Today I read about it a bit, and finally just gave in and ran the update. I don't know if it actually updated, but the message is gone, it says my system is up to date, and I still have S-OFF/root. FWIW.

jrocket said:
I've been hitting Cancel on that update message for the last 2 weeks. Today I read about it a bit, and finally just gave in and ran the update. I don't know if it actually updated, but the message is gone, it says my system is up to date, and I still have S-OFF/root. FWIW.
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you can edit the build prop to make it stop search the skyraider thread i think its in there.

ACD168 said:
you can edit the build prop to make it stop search the skyraider thread i think its in there.
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I saw that, thanks. I wanted the update, I just couldn't find any solid answers on whether it disabled root or not. It sounded like it disabled root but left S-OFF alone, so I did ran the update, thinking I could root it again later. But now I still have root, so I don't know if the update was actually applied or not.
I'm not worried either way, it was just an experience relevant to the OP's question.

jrocket said:
I saw that, thanks. I wanted the update, I just couldn't find any solid answers on whether it disabled root or not. It sounded like it disabled root but left S-OFF alone, so I did ran the update, thinking I could root it again later. But now I still have root, so I don't know if the update was actually applied or not.
I'm not worried either way, it was just an experience relevant to the OP's question.
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Go into Settings/About Phone and see what firmware version you have, if it's 26 your updated, if it's still 21, it didn't update.
If you don't know if it's updated, it's prolly not. You would've known as it would've rebooted and then had run the update. If you don't recall any of that, your not updated.
Like was posted previously, you'd be better off finding which ROM has the update and then just flash that, be sure to do a backup 1st and foremost in case you screw up, you can always flash back to what you had and start over.
The only way that update will take is if you have stock with just root and no changes, I did this initially though and you will loose root, which is why I recommend you backup before trying, this way you don't have to root over again.

Edit build.prop. Here is the configuration you'll need to change to stop the OTA updates. This will also help save your battery if it frequently tries to download on 3G.
ro.build.fingerprint=verizon_wwe/inc/inc/inc:2.2/FRF91/264707:user/release-keys

RuLEoF2 said:
I recently started getting system update notices for 3.26.605.1 on my D-Inc.
I'm running the "standard" clockworkmod recovery that flashed when I rooted the phone. As I understand it, I can not install the update because I'm rooted so is there a way that I can stop the notices (without unrooting and going stock)?
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If you want to stay put on the version you have now, not accept the update, not be bothered by it again, then following bsdbytes's info for editing the build.prop is what you need to do.
If you want to accept and the NOV OTA update and still have clockworkmod recovery and root after... see -> http://solo.dc3.com/dinc/ (If you have an SLCD incredible, be carefull of which CWM Recovery version you use).
RuLEoF2 said:
I've also read chatter on other forums about a fix or "root version" on the way from unrevoked, but I haven't been able to find anything official.
Can anyone confirm an update from unrevoked?
Thanks.
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The current Unrevoked3 (ver 3.21) does not work to root the Nov OTA, nor install a custom recovery. There were tweets about an update coming, but delays due to thanksgiving, finals, etc. I haven't seen an ETA posted yet.

joelcableguy said:
Go into Settings/About Phone and see what firmware version you have, if it's 26 your updated, if it's still 21, it didn't update.
If you don't know if it's updated, it's prolly not. You would've known as it would've rebooted and then had run the update. If you don't recall any of that, your not updated.
The only way that update will take is if you have stock with just root and no changes, I did this initially though and you will loose root, which is why I recommend you backup before trying, this way you don't have to root over again.
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thanks for the info. you're right, it didn't update, i'm still at 21. when i clicked update a window came up saying it was going to reboot, but it never did. must be due to change i had on the device.
KidJoe said:
If you want to stay put on the version you have now, not accept the update, not be bothered by it again, then following bsdbytes's info for editing the build.prop is what you need to do.
If you want to accept and the NOV OTA update and still have clockworkmod recovery and root after... see -> LINK (If you have an SLCD incredible, be carefull of which CWM Recovery version you use).
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thanks for that link - i'll try to go through that when i get a chance.

[Q] Froyo 2.2 On a USCelular based HTC Desire

You probably get these a lot and I'm sorry for reporting if you have. About 4 days I got an HTC Desire and I know it's only Running Android 2.1 (Eclaire). I've already rooted my phone and what not using the UNrevoked method, and right now it's in the process of loading the Cynagen mod (spell check?), It's been installed correctly, it just seems to be taking a while to load (off topic but is that normal), I Was wondering if there was any possible way to load Froyo onto via mod or and upcoming update. Any step in the right direction, Im new to Android but I do want to become affluent with them.

Alright I got it working, but now unfortunately I just don't think this mod is for me. Is there a way to revert back to the cell phones factory OS?

If you can find an official Cellular ROM you can flash it and revert to stock, unfortunately I don't think there is a leaked one.

I guess I could bring it into my provider and see if they can completely erase and reinstall the operating system, I found an Official Froyo Rom, but I'm having trouble installing it. I installed the radio correctly, but the Official Froyo itselfs keeps aborting.
Keeps saying its 'bad' idk maybe its a bad download but I got it off of XDA.

If you go with a modified software to your provider they may very well decide that your warranty is invalid now.
Can you give a link to the rom you say you've found.

3722 said:
If you go with a modified software to your provider they may very well decide that your warranty is invalid now.
Can you give a link to the rom you say you've found.
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This is thelike to the ROM to upgrade phone to Froyo 2.2, at this point i want to revert back to the to the stock OS, being supposebly Froyo 2.2 will be here for it in jan, but idk its been postponed 234 times now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
I cant help but feel like im not installing the radio correctly, its talking about using a rom manager but from what i've read ROM MAnager should do jut fine. Either that or Cyanogen isn't wanting it to go away.
Well i found a thread on there forums...
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/9270-stock-us-cellular-rom-request/ According the the posters its not COMPLETELY stock but its close enough. Hopefully Froyo will come soon (hopefully)

Right on the second one worked I might try to install that one on a later day.