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UMTS?

Ok, I use the official dopod WM6 .. and I'm sure it's not related but for some reason I get a constant 3G/HSPDA connection which I NEVER had at my house.. and when I get a phone call it says UMTS AT&T .. anyone know what the UMTS is?

Umts=wcdma=3g

universal mobile telecommunications system..based on 3g

http://www.tech-faq.com/hsdpa.shtml
Per Tech-Fac: HSDPA is associated with the various Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS) networks including the Global System for Mobile Communications (GSM).

Madcap...That is good

Madcap180 said:
Ok, I use the official dopod WM6 .. and I'm sure it's not related but for some reason I get a constant 3G/HSPDA connection which I NEVER had at my house.. and when I get a phone call it says UMTS AT&T .. anyone know what the UMTS is?
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If I choose AUTO in phone/band, it will constantly show up UMTS, and the reception will be really bad in my place. (Battery will run out in a day) But if I choose GSM, first off, reception is great & my battery is good for 3-4 days.
Is 3G that power hungry? Or it's simply due to bad 3G reception in my area?
Cheers,
Richard

its a combination of both.

rockrichard said:
If I choose AUTO in phone/band, it will constantly show up UMTS, and the reception will be really bad in my place. (Battery will run out in a day) But if I choose GSM, first off, reception is great & my battery is good for 3-4 days.
Is 3G that power hungry? Or it's simply due to bad 3G reception in my area?
Cheers,
Richard
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I live Center of manchester in UK, i have 100% connection to UMTS, and battery is totally dead in about 28-30hours, so no its not your bad connection!
I think 3G/UMTS just uses alot of power, and i have to say i have never used the UMTS for wat it is ment for, so i jus turn it off!!!

The only time it is used is when you need to download something.
check this out:
One of the main benefits of UMTS is its speed. Current rates of transfer for broadband information are 2 Mbits a second. This speed makes possible the kind of streaming video that can support movie downloads and video conferencing. In a sense, UMTS makes it possible for you to enjoy all of the functionality of your home computer while you are roaming. By combining wireless and satellite cellular technologies, UMTS takes advantage of all existing options to result in the Holy Grail of 3G presentation: seamless transitions between WiFi and satellite.

Pumpiron579 said:
The only time it is used is when you need to download something.
check this out:
One of the main benefits of UMTS is its speed. Current rates of transfer for broadband information are 2 Mbits a second. This speed makes possible the kind of streaming video that can support movie downloads and video conferencing. In a sense, UMTS makes it possible for you to enjoy all of the functionality of your home computer while you are roaming. By combining wireless and satellite cellular technologies, UMTS takes advantage of all existing options to result in the Holy Grail of 3G presentation: seamless transitions between WiFi and satellite.
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You say that the current rates of transfer are 2Mbits, but my understanding is that the Hermes chipset has a theoretical maximum of 1.8 with a typical 'good' speed of 1.2 to 1.5.

lol i feel like a noob, I had NO idea what UMTS was... and was scared i was roaming or somehing hahahah!

I pulled that specific info off the net....
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-umts.htm
Attn
Madcap, those HighHeels you sent me were too small

data speeds on tilt 2

i found a different thread but it talked about the icon.
i recently picked up a tilt 2.
now over wifi, with the att proxy disabled i compared my tilt 2 to my iphone 3g.
i used speedtest net. web app on the tilt 2 and on the iphone i can only use the app.
what i found interesting is on the iphone i get 5 megs down 600k up which is about right to what my dsl line is provisioned at currently.
when i run the test on my tilt2 the max i can hit is 1.5 megs down.
is this normal? software? hardware? when i goto connection settings on the tilt it shows down speed 54mbps upload at 1.... when i click my wifi connection on the tilt.
any info would be appreciated.
over 3g i get about the same speed 3g iphone vs tilt those add up. i'm not really intrested in the slow speed over 3g what is bothering me is why is this phone so slow over wifi.

one more thing i want to add, when i connect wifi, with data off
network advance, Tx rate is 54MBps Rx rate is always 1 Mbps.
no matter what rom i have on the device.

Mine does the same thing. I contacted HTC and they where no help. I'm thinking of calling HTC again and see if I get some one else that might have a clue. You would think that when you connect to Wi-Fi that you would get better than 1.5Mb/s.

same here. Tilt 2 max 1.5

same here.
Tilt 2 with default at&t rom, sim unlocked on Roger(canada) network with the good connection settings.
Max 1.5 moslty around 1 on both 3G and wifi.

bad hardware or just how it is?
i have tried a different radio flash no change. to me it seems like bad hardware or a hard cap in the phones hardware.

does anyone DO NOT observ this problem with is tilt 2?

Yea i am at about 1 mbps as well on wifi. With full reception on 3g though for some reason i can only get speeds of about .5-.7mbps what the hell. I called ATT and they said it was the device but who knows. I bought this phone because of the fact that it had HSDPA 7.2. (I spend a lot of time on the internet) and of course some of the other great features it offers but my iphone 3g out performs it :-( really aggrivating

I have the T-Mo touch pro 2 and I use my phone as a modem for my laptop and it always feels like the internet is screaming fast, how would I check to see how fast it's actually going so I can report?

well that is because when you teather your laptop it is going through a different set of towers and uses different data (or something like that) then if you are just browsing from your phone. To test the speed just teather your phone and go to speedtest.net

Slow here on ATT Tilt 2
I also seem to have the 1.5 max wifi, G3 is even slower.
Missing the kaiser (original Tilt) already

i called htc on this matter, and the guy i spoke to is getting the same results, 1.5Mbps max.
this phone is same speed wifi and 3g in terms of load, etc i find this hard to accept, my ipaq is 802.11b and it wifi connection is not throttled to 1.5Mbps like this phone.
rom's and radio make no difference to the speed and if its hard capped at 1.5Mbps how in the world can it even hit the crappy 7.2Mbps att is rolling out backwards.

those this problem only observ on the tilt 2 or tp2 from sprint or verizon also get the problem?

wabbits said:
when i run the test on my tilt2 the max i can hit is 1.5 megs down.
is this normal? software? hardware? when i goto connection settings on the tilt it shows down speed 54mbps upload at 1.... when i click my wifi connection on the tilt.
any info would be appreciated.
over 3g i get about the same speed 3g iphone vs tilt those add up. i'm not really intrested in the slow speed over 3g what is bothering me is why is this phone so slow over wifi.
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Yep, I have Verizon FIOS at the house, and we have the max speed, 25 down 15 up. Testing with speedtest.net on my laptop i average 19.5 down, 13.5 up.
Turn on the wifi on my tilt2, and I get 1.5 down, 1.2 up. Ouch.

I get 0.05 down and 0.32 up. I've been complaining about it for awhile now. I have spent a long time calling AT&T and visiting the store and in the end it has led to them telling me they need to send me a new phone. If I take that option, I will let everyone know if the new phone was the same.

Oh bother, same here.... Bounces at 1.5 down, .35 up. Like it's hard-coded to limit it to that speed.
Probably another way for ATT to give network priority to the sheephone.

it's really inacceptabled. I've bought the found from a second hand here in canada. I cannot change it like this. HTC must offer a solution to us. It's not only an at&t phone. It's a world phone.

Same here too.
WiFi on my laptop gets me 6-7, but Wifi on the Tilt2 maxes out around 1.5

khaytsus said:
Oh bother, same here.... Bounces at 1.5 down, .35 up. Like it's hard-coded to limit it to that speed.
Probably another way for ATT to give network priority to the sheephone.
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I would have suspected that too, but when you switch to wifi, you are no longer on the AT&T 3G network. I think it has to be a hard limit on the phone. The question is, can that limit be "unlocked" somehow?

sk8mdw said:
I would have suspected that too, but when you switch to wifi, you are no longer on the AT&T 3G network. I think it has to be a hard limit on the phone. The question is, can that limit be "unlocked" somehow?
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this is the question i asked htc. they are getting back to me.
i hope this is just a software issue that can be addressed with some sort of patch.
it feels like hardware since its on stock or cooked roms.

What is your T-Mobile USA download speed?

What kind of download speeds are you seeing on T-Mobile USA 3G network?
I have TP2 with the recent Tmobile 6.5 ROM installed(Build 21881.5.0.84), using the HTC Wifi Router program to tether to my laptop. I'm located in San Diego CA.
the best i can get through Speedtest.net is about .95Mbps. I thought T-Mobile is supposed to be up to 7Mbps now???
btw...mobilespeedtest.net is very inaccurate...it says im getting 10Mbps ha! yeah right!

It varies in the 1-2 Mbits/s region for me. But it's OK for phone usage.

sukru said:
It varies in the 1-2 Mbits/s region for me. But it's OK for phone usage.
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I'm getting the same thing.
Actually, the 7.2Mbps before Christmas was T-Mo's goal. It seems they're only putting up some upgraded towers now (there's a thread about the new 3G --> H symbol flickering since we all used to only get the "H" here in the USA).

5.99 3g+ speed lol

gshadow325 said:
5.99 3g+ speed lol
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Just because they started their HSDPA coverage in Philly!
So how fast is the web browsing for you? I'm guessing it takes one second to completely load up a page?

sumflipnol said:
Just because they started their HSDPA coverage in Philly!
So how fast is the web browsing for you? I'm guessing it takes one second to completely load up a page?
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I've found that Internet speeds are more apparent when the phone is used to tether a laptop. The page rendering speed can be limited by the speed of the processor in the device. I was surprised how fast the data speed really was the first time I tethered my laptop, since the laptop processor is so much faster and so the page-rendering isn't limiting.
This isn't quatitative...and I'm sure someone else knows at what data speed and processor speed each component becomes most-limiting.

Go to www.speedtest.net while your computer is tethered and post your results.

dapopa9 said:
Go to www.speedtest.net while your computer is tethered and post your results.
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Tethered via wi-fi
_________1st test_________
download - 1.69
upload - .33
ping - 392ms
_________2nd test_________
download - 1.82
upload - .35
ping - 150ms
_________3rd test_________
download - .60
upload - .34
ping - 393ms

[Q] HSPA+?

Three UK have just rolled out HSPA+ and I read that the Desire HD supports this (According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor) under MSM8255 in the chart)
Google-ing HTC Desire HD HSPA+ brings up loads of announcements that the phone has HSPA+ as well.
So the Chipset supports HSPA+?, but is it enabled in the Radio?

Mine works just fantastic with HSPDA, blazing fast net!

Yes the DHD supports HSPA+. But don't forget that HSPA+ isn't the same as LTE or WIMAX. Here in austria i get about 3-5mbit down and 1-2mbit up with hspa+(or hsdpa? Idk exactly, but i'm also on three) depending on day and time
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

People, please do not confuse HSPA+ with HSDPA. HSPA+ is a new faster form of HSDPA which the Desire HD apparently supports (According to Wikipedia and Qualcomm)

It does indeed support HSPA+, we have those networks here in Finland. My record speed is 10.1 down and 1.62 up

Yes Desire HD supports HSPA+. Really no big deal though, the difference is HSPA+ supports up to 14.4Mbps download whereas normal HSDPA supports 7.2Mbps download. I've never hit above 5Mbps download. Still nice to know though.

I'm not sure that the Desire HD supports HSPA+. The following has happened recently.
A month ago I was getting 6Mbps 24/7 on my DHD
Now I'm barly getting 2Mbps most of the time. (This started about 3-5 days after 2.3.3 Update BTW!)
Now I've managed to borrow a nice HSPA+ Dongle (HUAWEI E353) and it gives me 9.8Mbps (1.3Megabyte/second!!!!!!)
In my testing both devices where in the same physical location (Not at the same time obviously! And yes both on Three)
I am not happy at all. My Desire HD was giving me 800KB/s and now I can't even get 250KB/s. Yet at the same time I know its not the network as the dongle performs so fast that I can't even believe its wireless broadband!

Well, according to Telus, the Desire HD runs on their "4G" network, which is HSPA+.

hi
even i am facing slow internet speeds in comparison with nokia e series and iphone.am on custom rom by mike
try the patch and c if there is any noticeable diff....

[Q] Wildfire S UK slow mobile data speeds

Is it normal for the HTC Wildfire S to have slow data speeds or could it be because of my area? I rarely get speeds much above 2Mbps. The data speed I get on 3 UK is around 1.4Mbps average and the connection keeps dropping. I get almost full signal so that shouldn't be the cause. The speed often goes really slow at peak times. Does anyone else have speeds this slow or are they much faster?

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vpwrf said:
Is it normal for the HTC Wildfire S to have slow data speeds or could it be because of my area? I rarely get speeds much above 2Mbps. The data speed I get on 3 UK is around 1.4Mbps average and the connection keeps dropping. I get almost full signal so that shouldn't be the cause. The speed often goes really slow at peak times. Does anyone else have speeds this slow or are they much faster?
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What is your connection now? 3G or GPRS,
In options tried to select Inalambric Conections, the mobile data or similar and be sure that "Only use 2G nets" are disabled, if it isn't disabled it can be a solutiion...
Send from my HTC Wildfire S using Tapatalk Pro modified

I have the Network Mode on WCDMA only. I get slow download speeds most of the time even though it's showing the H symbol and doesn't matter what network I use. Is there a trick for getting faster data speeds by editing the build.prop file or something?

In many areas Three doesn't provide a GSM service, and in others it is out-sourced to Orange's network. Even though you may be connected to their HSDPA (WCDMA) service the speed is entirely dependant on the signal level. The speed is also dependant on the time of day, obviously the network is going to be more congested during peak times.
I usually get a download speed of around 350kB/s (2.8Mbps).
To be honest your speed doesn't sound that bad, and if you want a much faster experience you're going to have to get a phone that supports HSPA+.

The speeds I now get are always absolutely rubbish. I nearly always get below 0.5Mbps on Orange. 3 aren't much better. Below 1Mbps most of the time.