Resisted posting this in the Dev forum, but decided that since i'm not a Dev, It ought to stay in the Q&A for general discussion.
Could one really use this as a desktop PC running Android or is the HDMI connector doomed to a life of powerpoint presentations in corporate board rooms and showing phone-captured pics & video of the kids after vacation on the shiny HDTV?
Here's my logic, I want to be able to plug my evo into the USB/HDMI dock and have it function as a 'reasonable' machine for browsing the web and listening to music. We have root, so USB host, among other necessities shouldn't be an issue there.
Now, from the HDMI 1.4 spec, this thing ought to be capable of all of the following
Raw Bandwidth: 10.2 Gbit/s
Video: maximum resolution to 4K × 2K
Audio Formats: LPCM, Dolby Digital, DTS, DVD-Audio, Super Audio CD, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD High Resolution Audio, DTS-HD Master Audio, MPCM
Networking: HDMI Ethernet Channel, which allows for a 100 Mb/s Ethernet connection between the two HDMI connected devices;
Certainly, one would be dreaming to expect 4k x 2k video playback on this processor combination but what do you think about the HDMI Ethernet channel? With an extremely pervasive network in my home this is very interesting to me.
Maybe these features are too niche to ever actually work but the dream of a unified connector sure seems to be inching closer to reality.
bobsbobbers said:
Resisted posting this in the Dev forum, but decided that since i'm not a Dev, It ought to stay in the Q&A for general discussion.
Could one really use this as a desktop PC running Android or is the HDMI connector doomed to a life of powerpoint presentations in corporate board rooms and showing phone-captured pics & video of the kids after vacation on the shiny HDTV?
Here's my logic, I want to be able to plug my evo into the USB/HDMI dock and have it function as a 'reasonable' machine for browsing the web and listening to music. We have root, so USB host, among other necessities shouldn't be an issue there.
Now, from the HDMI 1.4 spec, this thing ought to be capable of all of the following
Raw Bandwidth: 10.2 Gbit/s
Video: maximum resolution to 4K × 2K
Audio Formats: LPCM, Dolby Digital, DTS, DVD-Audio, Super Audio CD, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD High Resolution Audio, DTS-HD Master Audio, MPCM
Networking: HDMI Ethernet Channel, which allows for a 100 Mb/s Ethernet connection between the two HDMI connected devices;
Certainly, one would be dreaming to expect 4k x 2k video playback on this processor combination but what do you think about the HDMI Ethernet channel? With an extremely pervasive network in my home this is very interesting to me.
Maybe these features are too niche to ever actually work but the dream of a unified connector sure seems to be inching closer to reality.
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Posts like this really make me appreciate just how small a world the Internet has created.
I've been hoping for the EXACT same thing as you since the first time I used my first smartphone (HTC/AT&T 3125). I said...man, this is gonna be great, I can use this to replace both my iPod AND my Game Boy. Every smartphone since, I've done that with, and inched closer to the reality of a unified device. However, there has always been the physical limitation of the screen.
Now, however, all of these phones (running Android, of course) are coming with HDMI-out, which (I would think) gives us an avenue to the larger screen. What I'm basically hoping to do is replace most of what my netbook does, with my next smartphone (EVO? Streak?), and do it on a larger display, when it is available.
In a perfect world, I would hook my device into the dock (so that I have HDMI-out, charging, and stereo speakers), and then use either a BlueTooth mouse/keyboard (not sure if the BlueTooth stack supports this type of communication), a USB mouse/keyboard (2-to-1 USB adapter into phone, hacked USB driver to facilitate input direction communication), and/or using the phone's display as an input method.
A lot of people look at me sort of oddly when I describe this but...whatever. I've seen at least a few other posts on XDA asking about display-output for the EVO via HDMI, so...I know we're not alone!
Would this maybe be better to post in the dev forum, to give developers an idea of what us non-dev-users are looking for?
^Bump. Any others have input? Will post a link over in the Dev forums to see if there is anyone else like minded...
Certainly you and I are on the same page at least.
Cyanogenmod has bluetooth hid working on the evo. I use my full size mouse and keyboard all the time but the screen is the only thing missing. They are pretty far along on being able to mirror the phone screen and I think scale it to 720p for hdtv output. If that's what you are looking for I assure you you are definitely not he only one.
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Cyanogenmod has bluetooth hid working on the evo. I use my full size mouse and keyboard all the time but the screen is the only thing missing. They are pretty far along on being able to mirror the phone screen and I think scale it to 720p for hdtv output. If that's what you are looking for I assure you you are definitely not he only one.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12050061#post12050061
hexydes said:
Would this maybe be better to post in the dev forum, to give developers an idea of what us non-dev-users are looking for?
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Still no. It'd be better to perhaps PM a developer and ask.. Starting a thread like that would only get you flamed since you aren't contributing any hard evidence, a leak, port, or half baked project. Not downing it as a bad idea, just saving you some irate posts.
bobsbobbers said:
Resisted posting this in the Dev forum, but decided that since i'm not a Dev, It ought to stay in the Q&A for general discussion.
Could one really use this as a desktop PC running Android or is the HDMI connector doomed to a life of powerpoint presentations in corporate board rooms and showing phone-captured pics & video of the kids after vacation on the shiny HDTV?
Here's my logic, I want to be able to plug my evo into the USB/HDMI dock and have it function as a 'reasonable' machine for browsing the web and listening to music. We have root, so USB host, among other necessities shouldn't be an issue there.
Now, from the HDMI 1.4 spec, this thing ought to be capable of all of the following
Raw Bandwidth: 10.2 Gbit/s
Video: maximum resolution to 4K × 2K
Audio Formats: LPCM, Dolby Digital, DTS, DVD-Audio, Super Audio CD, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD High Resolution Audio, DTS-HD Master Audio, MPCM
Networking: HDMI Ethernet Channel, which allows for a 100 Mb/s Ethernet connection between the two HDMI connected devices;
Certainly, one would be dreaming to expect 4k x 2k video playback on this processor combination but what do you think about the HDMI Ethernet channel? With an extremely pervasive network in my home this is very interesting to me.
Maybe these features are too niche to ever actually work but the dream of a unified connector sure seems to be inching closer to reality.
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I could be wrong, but I don't think the mini HDMI on the evo supports 1.4 spec. Which means it cannot do internet connection over HDMI. I am going to bet it really doesn't meet 1.3 spec either. Like I said, I could be wrong.
Brainss....
Its Micro HDMI (not mini hdmi) which is HDMI 1.4 which is compatible with the mentioned above
evo + HDMI can do a lot
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Gaming Console & Desktop configs Using the Evo and HDMI mirroring
I've been using my Evo as both since late Feb.
What about Rockplayer? I just ordered the HDMI cable so I haven't been able to mess with it. I would like to be able to stream video (jw player) and see on HDMI tv. Has anyone done this? Thx.
I've been wanting to try this forever. However I've upgraded to CM7 and they don't have the mouse pointer support, so I guess I'll have to wait to see if/when it's included. I want it, but not bad enough to downgrade to CM6. Back to rockin angry birds on the 50" Plasma.
HDMwIn + Rockplayer + Tv Shows Stream = Everything you need.
RileyGrant said:
HDMwIn + Rockplayer + Tv Shows Stream = Everything you need.
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My current setup is HDMI mirroring, Zimly, Flash plus Hulu, Gamer's and Desktop setups from my site, BT KB/Mouse and a BT gamepad. I also have a media server running Orb with two digital tuners tucked in a corner with 3TB of storage. Now that's everything you need and want, well except for Netflix. Oh yeh, and the semi perm. Evo CarPC with a BT volume control.
weehooherod said:
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/03/htc-evo-4g-impersonates-motorola-atrix-4g-webtop.html
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That's an overview to a more complete solution that I put up (check my sig or the Evo theme/app forum.
I've used rockplayer and a website called movshare mobile.
Don't tell anyone though.
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I have to wonder if the cable for the incredible will work with my phone. Mytouch. I have seen one for video composite and one for hdmi. Maybe if it fits someone could handle the software if needed.
Amp International Inc.
The mytouch doesnt have the hardware for video out, its not the fact of finding a cable, its the fact that the phone doesnt support it.
I suppose they abondoned that in favor of DLNA (UPnP). Of course the finest hotels are only now putting in composite video jacks. DLNA is a LONG LONG way in the future for the main stream.
Still, I did sit on the couch and streamed from my Glacier (via 802.11g) to a PS3 COMPONENT out to a 52" LCD. The picture was shockingly good. Had the occasional glitch, but that was as likely as not the LAN.
How do you set things up to stream from the my4g to the ps3?
Great DLNA Device
Just for those interested:
I bought a WDTV Live a little while back for about $65 on sale. Its an awesome little box, especially with the latest firmware update. (They are always developing firmwares improvements with added features and there is a sizable community of people running hacked firmwares)
Anyways, it runs all of my video files in Full 1080p (all of them that I use, but not every one that exists) and actually has some support for DVD menus for my rips. It does YouTube, Pandora, Flickr, MediaFly, pulls from my Central Axis (NAS), and most importantly to MT4G users, it does DLNA.
I'm actually going to buy a "WDTV Live PLUS" box which does everything that this one does but also handles Netflix (now) and Blockbuster On Demand (soon).
Here's a TV-out cable for those who don't have/use DLNA.MT4G TV-out Cable
XfooYen said:
Here's a TV-out cable for those who don't have/use DLNA.MT4G TV-out Cable
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Does anyone know if this does truly work
jjjackson56 said:
Does anyone know if this does truly work
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Honestly, I don't know. The cable is HTC branded OEM product and is sold for the G2, Incredible, N1, and others. Amazon sells the cable for $17 and you could surely return it to them no problem. You could call HTC and ask about compatibility.
tv out
well i have a 52 inch flat screen tv,,with all sorts of connections on the back and side,,it also has a USB connection,,,,i hooked my phone right up to the tv,,and the tv actually see's my memory card,,,you can view your pics and videos < if the videos are formatted for the tv to see> and you can use the oem data cable that come with the phone.
Not trying to bring back from the dead, but have done much searching only to come up with mixed opinions. Does this phone have Video out capabilities via a component cable?
I'm trying to hook my S3 to my TV setup and am not having much fun with it. With the MHL I am getting stuttering and lagging. I have:
Samsung MHL adapter (from Infuse)
Samsung 11-to-5 pin converter
Samsung 1080p HDTV
BT keyboard & mouse, charger, HDMI, etc.
Stock ROM
The image quality is good for web and photo use but it lags and stutters. For games it makes some games nearly unplayable. I can see the phone's screen and everything is smooth but looking at HDTV I can see a lag maybe 0.5 seconds and much slower update rate, very obvious when you move the mouse. The TV shows [email protected], so it's not 1080p. I've done a LOT of searching online so maybe there's not anything new to say but I guess some people have been able to get [email protected] I guess one thing I didn't find, does ANYONE have smooth/lag-free 1080p with S3 MHL with any adapter?
I wonder if 1080i video plays at true 1080 resolution because I noticed when I play back 1080i videos I've taken with the phone itself the image quality and speed are much better. Maybe that's why Samsung decided on 1080i output rather than 720p? I came across a kernel for HTC One S (which is also a Qualcomm S4) that supposedly forces 720p... is there one for the S3?
Another issue is that audio only comes out HDMI, I want it to come out of headset to plug into AV system. I've seen a lot of people with the problem posting but no solutions? Probably isn't possible...
My third problem I actually found an issue to. That is removing the onscreen keyboard when using bluetooth keyboard and mouse. For that I used the app Null Keyboard: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wparam.nullkeyboard&hl=en
gillius said:
...Another issue is that audio only comes out HDMI, I want it to come out of headset to plug into AV system. I've seen a lot of people with the problem posting but no solutions? Probably isn't possible...
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Thought I'd pipe in. I am also trying to figure out if this MHL adapter allows 1080p video as I want to use it for watching movies on a 60" 1080p plasma TV, as I don't want to purchase it if it doesn't and the forums are very confusing on whether it does or doesn't.
I wanted to say about your second problem. If you want to pipe the audio to a stereo/surround sound system, all you have to do is plug the TV audio output into the sound system's audio input. This is how I have my laptop to TV setup currently: laptop HDMI-> TV; TV audio out -> sound system.
Just be aware, some TV"s or sound systems might not have compatible audio connections. For example, in order to hook up my Vizio sound bar to my Panasonic Plasma, I had to use the fiber optic cable.... didn't have audio RCA audio out on my Panasonic.
Thought I would amend my previous statement. I was assuming that you wanted the sound that goes with the TV only... However, if you are just looking to have music on without turning on your TV, you can get a cheap miniplug-to-RCA adapter from Radioshack or the like. Should probably cost around $10 on any given day. I've been doing this with my sound system and portable phone/players for years.
buy a dual/quad core HDMI "thumbstick" for $100.
It'll be better then what you are trying to accomplish
Here's some info regarding what I've tried and what the results have been w/ my HTC ONE. Hopefully, it can help you based on what you're trying to accomplish. Maybe with some feedback, I can see if there's any work around. Obviously, this probably wasn't entirely part of the design team's intentions for this phone, but it's fun to try.
Using a 5-PIN MHL to USB Adapter:
INTERFACE: When I plug this in to my phone, I immediately notice scrolling through the app drawer is laggy. Do you? My adapter is from Ebay, and is about a year old. It looks like any other $10 adapter I see out there, but I wasn't sure if the newer ones are better.
INPUT LAG: almost non-existent. Pressing controls take action immediately.
MIRROR: TV is a true mirror of the phone.
MOVIES: playback stutters due to the MHL1.0 24fps @ 1080 restriction
GAMES: are playable due to low input lag, but again the 24fps bites you for any game (this is MANY) that does not support changing its resolution.
Using HTC Media Link HD: Ran the update to latest (as of Jun 19th 2013)
INTERFACE: Noticed right away that my phone remained butter-smooth while also transmitting signal to the TV.
INPUT LAG: felt like about 300ms.
MIRROR: TV is not a true mirror of the phone. I immediately noticed my phone was taken over, put in landscape mode and my app drawer was different.
MOVIES: Playback seemed smoother overall, with occasional hitching (not frequent enough to deter from use).
GAMES: Games are unplayable due to input lag. Noticed a softening effect and when not lagging, probably was a touch smoother in FPS.
Other Considerations:
Hook up to a non-1080p TV: Nope. Most modern 720p TVs support 1080i, and thus tell the phone to send it 1080 signal.
Hook up a REALLY non-1080p TV: Ok, ok... so get a 8+ year old TV, or an older LCD Monitor. Yes. Whatever resolution it supports at max will make the HTC One step down from 1080 signal and tada... movies, games and interface all become butter smooth over MHL to USB.
Change the output resolution in the app: This will work if the game supports it, but many don't. Movies? Does anyone know of a good movie app that lets you change the output res?
Root your phone, it's time for ElementalX's 720p MHL HDMI output tweak since this phone doesn't support MHL 2.0: Sure, but I'm trying to find a non-rooting method first. It looks decent. Ultimately, if I have to, I will, but I'm trying not to tinker this go-round. The phone is totally acceptable to me otherwise. On Sprint, he's just begun support for us and I'm keeping an eye on the thread to see better results from the pioneers first.
References:
Hardware Info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2226982
ElementalX w/ 720p MHL USB support: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249774
New finding: If your MHL adapter causes your TV to blink in and out from time to time, I figured out what it is: Turn off Mobile Data on your phone.
For me, when I'm on 3G at least, whenever it gets a data hit, the HDMI functionality cuts out causing a static, noisy output to the TV.
Fortunately Wi-Fi is OK. Untested yet with 4G.
About to purchase a Bluetooth controller , a generic mhl adapter from amazon that has been confirmed to work with the one , and a flash of the ElementalX kernel . Really hope I'll be able to play my N64oid and PSXe titles smoothly . Will definitely report back with results
G1toEVO4G said:
About to purchase a Bluetooth controller , a generic mhl adapter from amazon that has been confirmed to work with the one , and a flash of the ElementalX kernel . Really hope I'll be able to play my N64oid and PSXe titles smoothly . Will definitely report back with results
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With that great option to set to 720p you should be butter-smooth. Good luck and let us know!
Hey.
I am running the latest nightly of CM 10.1 on my HTC one.
I can not seem to get my mhl cable working. Once I plug it in my HTC one often shuts down. The cable isn't faulty. It works like a charm with my galaxy nexus.
Sometimes I see a mirror of my screen but it is with a really bad resolution. Sometimes it flickers and shows a picture on and off. Mostly it freezes and then shuts down. It's really annoying.
USB OTG also doesn't work. The frequency of getting a bad resolution for a little while before it shuts down worked better after I disabled USB debugging in my developer settings.
Any thoughts? Workarounds?
Thanks in advance.
HTC one. CM 10.1
Turn off any form of motion control, as that'll cause quite a few issues as well.
Correct. Thanks a lot. I turned off auto rotate and then it worked. Didn't think of that. Now the mhl HDMI setup runs flawless without lag.
HTC one. CM 10.1
It's just me or image quality it's not that good? It's not the same as computer connected with HDMI? It seems it lower bitrate or diminish image quality. I am not talking about 24 fps limitation...
Does MHL adaptor quality might have an influence, or it's all the same?
Hi,
I have tested Z1C with both Miracast dongle and MHL cable.
MHL cable is so called 5 PIN cable. The same one that works with Galaxy S2 and HTC One X.
MHL Cable works just fine.
I have also tested Miracast dongle (iPazzport). It connects slowly in Miracast mode. Screen and sound gets transferred to TV very slowly. It is basically unusable. The same dongle works just fine with Asus HD7 tablet.
DLNA mode is not usable either for video. At least not for HD content. It can be used for sound transfer. But it has minor problems also with sound only connections. I have tested with the same iPazzport HDMI dongle and WD HDTV Live box.
Please share your experience.
how is the lag for mhl? i heard some phones get quite a bit of lag.
also, what mhl adapter u use?
Gjole86 said:
how is the lag for mhl? i heard some phones get quite a bit of lag.
also, what mhl adapter u use?
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There is definitely some lag with MHL. I can only express my gut feeling. 50-100 ms, I guess. Is there any good way to measure it?
I am using this adapter:
www.ebay.com/itm/310855110310
I ordered http://www.amazon.com/Decrescent-Adapter-Samsung-Galaxy-Smartphones/dp/B00I5J6WVY
but it will take 2 weeks more to come.
I plan to order the PS3 controller too for gaming on screen, but not sure how it will be with the lag. also not sure if these cheap ps3 controllers will work or i need the original ps3 controller. for wireless of course, not planing to use wired controllers. maybe xbox wireless can work too. testing to come.
For measuring it, the best method is to start the stopwatch and record the TV and the phone's screen with some point and shoot camera, just stop the video later after 10 seconds for example and see the difference between the times.
at least thats what i read around the net ..
MHL lag.
First, tested using timer app in phone. Took pictures containing both mobile and plasma screen.
Out of 13 shots:
0.1 s delay - 9 times
0.2 s delay - 2 times
All the rest, 1 shot had 0.1-0.3 s delay (between TV frames), another had 0 - 0.2 s delay (between TV frames again).
Second test.Used http://vimeo.com/12505989 test video.
My laptop (connected through display port->HDMI) was 100% in sync. Z1C was 2-3 frames late (on 24 fps video).
I would say, it is about 120 ms delay. And it is huge for a cable connection IMHO.
Shame, Sony, shame!!!
My other phone Galaxy S Advance did much better job with DLNA sharing.
Which means that there must be a problem with WiFi (either HW or SW).
I am really disappointed. Way too many problems with a device that was meant to be almost a flagship. I wonder if all those problems also exist with Z1 older brother as well. Or did Sony cut some corners again...
Anyone who could explain why it's necessary to switch wifi off then on again when you activate media sharing (DLNA)?
Say you sit at home, your wifi is on ofc and you like to send a pic or a track to your AVR or TV, then why does it say "please turn on wifi" when you activate media sharing...
Gjole86 said:
I ordered http://www.amazon.com/Decrescent-Adapter-Samsung-Galaxy-Smartphones/dp/B00I5J6WVY
but it will take 2 weeks more to come.
I plan to order the PS3 controller too for gaming on screen, but not sure how it will be with the lag. also not sure if these cheap ps3 controllers will work or i need the original ps3 controller. for wireless of course, not planing to use wired controllers. maybe xbox wireless can work too. testing to come.
For measuring it, the best method is to start the stopwatch and record the TV and the phone's screen with some point and shoot camera, just stop the video later after 10 seconds for example and see the difference between the times.
at least thats what i read around the net ..
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Official ps3 controller works great for wireless gaming through mhl, i also dont seem to suffer from any lagging? (gaming,streaming etc)
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How about mirror op sender?
Has anyone tried mirror op sender & mirror op presenter on the xperia z1 compact? Seems rather fast just no audio.
Hi. Should it work with any device that has a HDMI input or it has to be with MHL support. Bought Mhl cable from eBay, phone opens Tv launcher but Nothing comes on TV.
got this jus USD3 .working well http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_k...HTC+EVO+Galaxy+S2+i9000+DJNP&_id=380898940150
MIRROR CAST is crap my lg tv has inbuilt receiver. I was soo ashamed at LG showroom when my expensive Z1c was dropping frames etc while not so expensive LG androids mirror casting really good.I hate sony for there crappy WI Fi chips
Hi All.
I've got a passive mhl cable (no external power needed), this: http://www.delock.de/produkte/G_83297/merkmale.html?setLanguage=un
What should I do with it to use with my Z1C? I connected them, but nothing on the tv screen . I missed something?
Thanks
I need help getting a usb dac working with my note 8. Usb audio player works but its not a good option for me since it will be a in car install. Anyone with any expirence in this please chime in. Im willing to do whatever it takes. My note 2 had native support so does the note 3. I think it has to do with services.jar. I am not sure exacly what files need to be added but I used basmali on my n7 to input a few lines to the services jar file and it worked great. Thanks for any help. I have a syba dac works fine with android.
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I need help getting a usb dac working with my note 8. Usb audio player works but its not a good option for me since it will be a in car install. Anyone with any expirence in this please chime in. Im willing to do whatever it takes. My note 2 had native support so does the note 3. I think it has to do with services.jar. I am not sure exacly what files need to be added but I used basmali on my n7 to input a few lines to the services jar file and it worked great. Thanks for any help. I have a syba dac works fine with android.
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I am not sure what you are doing or meaning.
This is a Note 8.0... so if you are side loading an app from a Note 2, things may not work.
I play mp3 files just fine from SD or OTG USB, and don't need an app for playback.
As for pulling mp3 files from tablet... I use Xposed with download to SD for xposed.
I copied all the important folders from the system over to SD and redirected the system paths in the Xposed module to point to the corresponding folders on SD.
Maybe having SD and system folders simultaneously available is causing issues with your cars media player.
Ford Sync works fine and one of my apps has a fix for Sync, but many diff issues with Honda on 9th gen Accords and using media android or not.
GT-N5110 & GT-N5120 - 64GB 633x on board, Status Official on SafeRooted OEM ROMs with Wanam Xposed and RootCloak. The only way to fly 8+ hours!
This badboy don't play with Play & Triangle away!
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I am not sure what you are doing or meaning.
This is a Note 8.0... so if you are side loading an app from a Note 2, things may not work.
I play mp3 files just fine from SD or OTG USB, and don't need an app for playback.
As for pulling mp3 files from tablet... I use Xposed with download to SD for xposed.
I copied all the important folders from the system over to SD and redirected the system paths in the Xposed module to point to the corresponding folders on SD.
Maybe having SD and system folders simultaneously available is causing issues with your cars media player.
Ford Sync works fine and one of my apps has a fix for Sync, but many diff issues with Honda on 9th gen Accords and using media android or not.
GT-N5110 & GT-N5120 - 64GB 633x on board, Status Official on SafeRooted OEM ROMs with Wanam Xposed and RootCloak. The only way to fly 8+ hours!
This badboy don't play with Play & Triangle away!
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A dac isnt a app its a piece of hardware that when connected gives you alot cleaner output for a extenal amplifier. It connects to the usb host then routs the audio signal to the dac the dac amplifies it and send a better signal to your headphones or amplifier. Its very common with car audio guys like myself and will work nativly with many phones and tablets. It seems the note 8 is missing some drivers or libs ect... for this to work. I need a dev to help out. Thanks for the reply.
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A dac isnt a app its a piece of hardware that when connected gives you alot cleaner output for a extenal amplifier. It connects to the usb host then routs the audio signal to the dac the dac amplifies it and send a better signal to your headphones or amplifier. Its very common with car audio guys like myself and will work nativly with many phones and tablets. It seems the note 8 is missing some drivers or libs ect... for this to work. I need a dev to help out. Thanks for the reply.
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I am familiar with DAC and processing, just most have app issues not hardware connectivity issues.
The Note 8.0 DAC is very capable of outputting and converting digital, you just need to enable surround and use an HML adapter to HDMI... then you have your pure digital out for processing. Most portable processors are HDMI now whether they are for cars or theatre use. If going from HDMI to multi channel, if your DAC does not have HDMI in, you can get an HDMI converter for connecting TOSLink, Coax, or Balanced audio output.
Do that all the time a home on my Yamaha.
You also have the ability to use Viper4Android HIFI it has advanced CPU processing to clean up MP3 format files for the best analog listening experience since it does the clean up natively, MHL HDMI output will also be cleaned up as well. Highly recommended as it has an Audiophile processing power without all the gizmos and colorization of other types of clean up apps or processors.
Here is the google play store link, though I get the one from the developers site... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vipercn.viper4android233.xhifi
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I am familiar with DAC and processing, just most have app issues not hardware connectivity issues.
The Note 8.0 DAC is very capable of outputting and converting digital, you just need to enable surround and use an HML adapter to HDMI... then you have your pure digital out for processing. Most portable processors are HDMI now whether they are for cars or theatre use. If going from HDMI to multi channel, if your DAC does not have HDMI in, you can get an HDMI converter for connecting TOSLink, Coax, or Balanced audio output.
Do that all the time a home on my Yamaha.
You also have the ability to use Viper4Android HIFI it has advanced CPU processing to clean up MP3 format files for the best analog listening experience since it does the clean up natively, MHL HDMI output will also be cleaned up as well. Highly recommended as it has an Audiophile processing power without all the gizmos and colorization of other types of clean up apps or processors.
Here is the google play store link, though I get the one from the developers site... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vipercn.viper4android233.xhifi
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Im very familiar with v4a but i have a arc audio ps8 for processing so i want my signal as original as possible . V4a is a awsome app i use it but not for my needs for this install.Hdmi out is not a aption for me i need optical. An example of a dac i want to use is fiio e17, nuforce udac. I see a few hdmi to optical converters but the are pricey. Thanks for the reply its appreciated.
b3ltazar said:
Im very familiar with v4a but i have a arc audio ps8 for processing so i want my signal as original as possible . V4a is a awsome app i use it but not for my needs for this install.Hdmi out is not a aption for me i need optical. An example of a dac i want to use is fiio e17, nuforce udac. I see a few hdmi to optical converters but the are pricey. Thanks for the reply its appreciated.
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Well Toslink has its issues and would be my last option in getting pure data. Though I do not see $40 to $75 being pricey for a converter. If anything I would replace the PS8 for a Lexicon processor, Though a DC-1 being over 10 years old would be too pricey for you as well, so going to a Meridian would be pointless.
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Well Toslink has its issues and would be my last option in getting pure data. Though I do not see $40 to $75 being pricey for a converter. If anything I would replace the PS8 for a Lexicon processor, Though a DC-1 being over 10 years old would be too pricey for you as well, so going to a Meridian would be pointless.
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I spent wayyy to much money as it is.I got a 30$ behringer dac uca202 with optical and it works great with the note8 and the ps8. Optical is by far the best signal i had so far,clean powerful. I couldnt be happier. It has a burrbrown dac built in for the analog outputs but after comparing them optical has more output.as fas as the processors you recommended i need a 8 channel and it has to be small. The ps8 is perfect for my needs it has a 31 band eq for each channnel independent crossovers for each channel, time alignment, a mixer and phase control for blending channels 8 volt out the list goes on. I tried helix dsp and a few others but the output on the ps8 is killer...thanks for the recomendations.
b3ltazar said:
I spent wayyy to much money as it is.I got a 30$ behringer dac uca202 with optical and it works great with the note8 and the ps8. Optical is by far the best signal i had so far,clean powerful. I couldnt be happier. It has a burrbrown dac built in for the analog outputs but after comparing them optical has more output.as fas as the processors you recommended i need a 8 channel and it has to be small. The ps8 is perfect for my needs it has a 31 band eq for each channel independent crossovers for each channel, time alignment, a mixer and phase control for blending channels 8 volt out the list goes on. I tried helix dsp and a few others but the output on the ps8 is killer...thanks for the recomendations.
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8 channels ... Both types have 9.1 channels for Theater experience and are THX - EX certified. In fact they are tops in professional equipment.
Rule of thumb car audio is second rate over professional studio equipment. The only time I use fiber optics is through our backbone links. Car and Home Toslink connex are filled with judder. Professionals use hard wired connex, HDMI, Coax, Scart, or balanced analog line cables.
I just find this thread funny to hear you have spent a lot of money on equipment and tablet, and want to use toslink and above all use USB, which IMO cannot pass the bandwidth for true 7.1 sound without judder. Plus you are doing multiple downstream conversions when HDMI allows pure digital to connect, so using a MHL HDMI adapter allows untouched data to be available to your processor. I would not spend top dollar and not have HDMI digital in capabilities or attempt at limiting myself with Toslink. It is not that I am telling you your doing it wrong, as it seems that you expect the processor connection that you chose to be clean, when it is not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOSLINK
http://www.allaboutadapters.com/hddodtsdihdo.html
Enough said about this, you wanted to know how to connect your tablet and make the processor work. I gave all that I can to make it work for you. Its up to you to figure out how you are going to utilize it.
gooberdude said:
8 channels ... Both types have 9.1 channels for Theater experience and are THX - EX certified. In fact they are tops in professional equipment.
Rule of thumb car audio is second rate over professional studio equipment. The only time I use fiber optics is through our backbone links. Car and Home Toslink connex are filled with judder. Professionals use hard wired connex, HDMI, Coax, Scart, or balanced analog line cables.
I just find this thread funny to hear you have spent a lot of money on equipment and tablet, and want to use toslink and above all use USB, which IMO cannot pass the bandwidth for true 7.1 sound without judder. Plus you are doing multiple downstream conversions when HDMI allows pure digital to connect, so using a MHL HDMI adapter allows untouched data to be available to your processor. I would not spend top dollar and not have HDMI digital in capabilities or attempt at limiting myself with Toslink. It is not that I am telling you your doing it wrong, as it seems that you expect the processor connection that you chose to be clean, when it is not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOSLINK
http://www.allaboutadapters.com/hddodtsdihdo.html
Enough said about this, you wanted to know how to connect your tablet and make the processor work. I gave all that I can to make it work for you. Its up to you to figure out how you are going to utilize it.
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I understand what ur saying but i am not looking for 7.1 just a clean signal for the ps8 its just that thae tablets dont have enough signalvoltage out maybe .5 volt at max . I have to make my install ps8 based because i have one already and i sell them at my shop and want to make a tablet installs a option for customers. Im not saying its the best solution but its what i needed ..Eveything you said is correct and when i am ready to step it up ill come to u for some suggestions.
No luck myself
I haven't been able to get my dac to work with my s8+.
Really miss the sound quality.